THE FOUNTAIN Still Flowing At Warner Bros!! More Exclusive Story Details Cascade In!!
Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.
Boy, sourcing this stuff can get convoluted sometimes. Ultimately, Dana Harris at VARIETY gets the credit for breaking the first part of today’s FOUNTAIN update, but I was directed to the story by an e-mail that actually referred me to a story on Coming Soon.net. I’d like to reprint the entire e-mail from “Hogan Hulk,” just so you can enjoy the warm, friendly, open relationship I have with my readers the same way I do:
WB & New Regency Turn on Aronofsky's Fountain
Saturday, June 8, 2002 1:42 CDT
Variety reports that Warner Bros. Pictures and New Regency have partnered to co-finance Darren Aronofsky's The Fountain (a.k.a. The Last Man), a sci-fi epic that will star Brad Pitt and Cate Blanchett. The companies are currently trying to determine a start date for the production which is budgeted north of $70 million. New Regency replaces Village Roadshow Pictures, which was originally expected to co-finance the pic.
Aronofsky's road toward production on this pic has been a rocky one, says the trade. Village Roadshow came aboard last year when the film was targeted for a fall 2001 start and a fall 2002 release. However, the studio then pushed its production target to this summer. The move was to accommodate Warners' concerns over the budget and script as well as Blanchett's pregnancy.
While "Fountain" is expected to be as visually ambitious as "Matrix," Aronofsky's project isn't expected to have the benefit of being a potential franchise.
Aronofsky and Ari Handel wrote the script, which has been kept tightly under wraps. Aronofsky will produce with Eric Watson, his partner in Protozoa Pictures.
Of course, AICN never lets the facts get in the way of bashing Warner Bros. especially when all of the other studios are engaging in the same type of shitty corporate behavior.
I see all.....
In all seriousness, I’m sorry if it seems like we’re “bashing” Warner Bros. I think you’re seeing something that’s not there, since I didn’t actually offer any editorial comment in my initial article last week. I wondered what effect it would have on the BATMAN project that Aronofsky is working to develop with Warner Bros. if the turnaround rumor turned out to be true. That’s all. Go take a look. It’s a relatively benign piece.
Reading the story about the co-financing deal between Warner Bros. and New Regency, it’s obvious what happened: the project wasn’t being shopped in turnaround, but in a possible partnership deal. That’s why Aronofsky and Protozoa and Warner were sending the script around town on a very select basis.
Of course, that was their mistake. Because if you send a script out, and it’s something I really, really want to read, I am going to have to utilize my minions to get my hands on it. In this case, I wrote back to “Maxamillian Cohen” to ask him if he had been smart enough to copy the thing when it was on his desk. I got a response within hours:
Hey again Mori! Nice to hear from you!
I couldn’t make a copy of the script. It came in the day before I wrote you and went back out immediately. My boss read it,and it’s got her name on the script. I couldn’t give it to you if I wanted. But I have a friend who might be able to give you one. Try him!
A quick volley of e-mails back and forth with another guy at another company got me two things: a copy of the script that is now sitting on my desk and a description of what to expect:
its a crazy script. Starts in the jungle with a giant battle sequence. Spanish guys versus Mayan warriors. There’s a temple there’s a secret and then we jump to the year 2500 a thousand years later and one guy from the opening is still alive somehow and he’s in this spaceship going to the edge of the universe for a date with God.
but even that doesn’t really describe it. There’s three different timelines at play in the film, and Brad Pitt and Cate Blanchett play multiple characters from the different eras. She’s going to make you cry like a fucking bitch if she rips it up. She plays a queen, a ghost, and a woman dying of cancer. Like I said...crazy. If you like 12 Monkeys style Brad Pitt then you will love this cos its the same kind of mindfucking thing where you are gonna to argue with your friends afterward for hours about what happened in the end. I read it three times and I want you to review it just so I know what the hell happens in it.
oh yeah and George Lucas better take some notes cos this is the real deal, a sciencefiction love story that really works!! Read it for your self and let me know what you think.
That tears it. I’m reading this script tomorrow, and I’ll try to get back to you all with some thoughts later in the week. I’m curious as hell at this point, and pleased to have pierced the veil of secrecy so promptly.
It was the beard. The beard commanded me. I am hypnotized... by the beard...
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June 11, 2002, 8:14 a.m. CST
Can I read at least one story here where some one doesnt take a shot at AOTC? What about Night Shift Nurses? That love story was a joke, it just seemed like sex, just raw sex, no love. So just pick on AOTC if you want.
June 11, 2002, 8:27 a.m. CST
Very interesting. Sounds like a fascinating premise, good cast, good director. . . we'll see. And Pageiv, people are attacking AOTC because, well, it sucked. No offense if you liked it. So when is this one supposed to come out? Did I miss that? Does anyone know? Hopefully this can successffully avoid being a confusing mess, as many ambitious projects end up being. Oh, and I'm not frist.
June 11, 2002, 8:54 a.m. CST
. . . is one we could ALL use more of. Plus, this flick's got Galadriel!!! I hope she doesn't go all "negative" on us in this one, though.
June 11, 2002, 9:01 a.m. CST
June 11, 2002, 9:05 a.m. CST
I loved her as Galadriel...but I really cringe at the "going negative" act...that was a mis-step on PJ's part. Whatever, I cannot wait for The Fountain to be up on the theater screen in front of me. I know, it's early, the movie may suck. Still, I've got the faith.
June 11, 2002, 9:15 a.m. CST
by Maya Sibylla
it wont suck because its an aronofsky film. seen Pi and requiem for a dream? even if it sucks, its going to be Warner's fault. they're doing supertwins, right? and maria poppins, right? luckily new line division is a bit more serious.
June 11, 2002, 9:33 a.m. CST
I never kiss ass normally but it's times like this that you bless this site and the people involved in it. This is why I keep coming back day after day. Doesn't matter when it comes, but you always know they'll be cool news round the corner. Can't wait for the script review. Anything with Mayans and God sounds good to me.
June 11, 2002, 10:01 a.m. CST
Sure, the love story was kind of weak and the acting came across as a little wooden, but you have to realize that this was set in a very reserved time period. And so what if it isn't up to the level of Candy Stripers 3? It comes closer to that level than any of the other Nurse Porno movies, and it's a huge improvement on the disappointment of Lesbian Student Nurses. What more do you want? If you could just suspend your disbelief and let go of your cynicism, you might be able to enjoy this wonderful film. I pity anyone who can't let themselves enjoy the experience that is Night Shift Nurses. You just try to pick it apart and hate it because it's trendy to make fun of NSN. You think it makes you "cool". If you fanboys would get over your cynical attitudes and view this film with the childlike wonder it deserves, maybe you would be happier people.
June 11, 2002, 10:03 a.m. CST
You know, it is possible to *describe* something without giving away the ending.
June 11, 2002, 10:11 a.m. CST
I thought Warner and Regency were severed up until now, seeing as how Regency has been partnered with Fox for the longest time. I'm surprised Village Roadshow isn't doing this, because nowadays we see their logo on almost every WB movie! Well, enough dork talk...I'm glad that Aronofsky's movie isn't being dumped by the WB as was previously mentioned, because they would be fucking crazy to do that. This movie has so much promise and is currently fitting its mining hat, because come release date it's going to strike box office gold. I can't wait to see this!
June 11, 2002, 10:34 a.m. CST
by Lance Rock
That is, unless you really are 17.
June 11, 2002, 10:39 a.m. CST
The Fountain sounds promising but I'm more worried about when Batman:yr1 will be made....the world needs a definitive Batman movie that doesn't have rubber nipples or neon.
June 11, 2002, 10:56 a.m. CST
You- you've earned it. That was some funnny shit man. Nightshift Nurses, egads. Anyway, I have seen neither Pi nor Requiem (indignant fanboy fury - IGNITE!), but this looks cool.
June 11, 2002, 11:07 a.m. CST
Let's recap. Apparently: AOTC sucks, Pi sucks, Requiem for a Dream is a mastubatory trip fest, 12 Monkey's Pitt is cool, The Fountain scrip sounds intriguing, and Cate is freaky as shit in the negative scene from FOTR. Hmmm. I agree with some, but not all of the above. Specifically, I would rather watch 80 minutes of a monkey shit fight at the San Diego Zoo than watch Requiem again. Also, I too cringe when the "negative" scene appears in FOTR.// I've heard several snippets about this movie but still don't really have clue regarding what this thing is about. Looking forward to Mori's review of the script.
June 11, 2002, 11:23 a.m. CST
by Neil MacAuley
This is just starting to get to me, because I'm realizing how widespread it is. Moriarty isn't joking; he really can get his hands on any script. But I don't applaud him for that, it can really fuck over people's work and potential deals. No, not just the big fat cat studio heads; but working screenwriters, filmmakers and creative execs who deserve to be rewarded for their toil and rise above the other hacks who are already at the top. This practice of passing scripts to website runners means there are unscrupulous development people at pretty much every company in Hollywood and New York, and that pisses me off. Why? Because I work in the film industry, in development, and I know a lot of really hard-working Execs. and assistants who deserve to be promoted -- and they could have their projects TORPEDOED BY CRAP LIKE THIS. Also because I'm a screenwriter -- haven't sold a spec yet, but I've made a little money on rewrite work, and I know that in the Fall when I go out with my big spec script I'm going to be really f***ing angry if a company passes on it without reading it because they read "the buzz" about it on some website. Or if some 21 year-old intern thinks it's fun to copy my scripts and hand it off to three of his buddies. He has no right, that's my work and it's being submitted through a legal source and it's breaking the law to copy and disseminate it. I don't understand why Geeks think they somehow have a RIGHT to read every script that's written and passed around Hollywood. I think it's because of the erroneous perception that everyone who works in film and tv is rich and doesn't deserve their success. But Moriarty doesn't have that right, and you guys don't, either. The fact is that many people in the Entertainment industry, like any other business, make their living based on INFORMATION, and the timing of the release of that information -- who gets to know what and when. The whole point of making up a strategic target list for submission and having an agent to broker your deals for you is to make sure that only the people you want to be in on your new project and your asking price are in on it. But if anyone can go to AICN, do a search, and read feedback on a script, then deals are going to be broken and creative people are going to be screwed over. E.g. "well, the 'fans' on the web are saying this project doesn't have franchise potential, so we should really only pay you half of what we originally said we would..." In closing, I'm not trying to sound like your grumpy Dad but seriously this is getting out of hand. I can understand getting the scripts for the massive films that are undoubtedly going into production (Men in Black, Jurassic Park, Star Wars), they won't be affected, or the little films struggling to get financed (that 5-25-77 script, for example) that could use a boost with some buzz, but things like this just don't need to be read and 'reviewed.' This draft could go through massive rewrites before greenlight and it could also have the plug pulled at any second. Seriously, Moriarty, maybe you need to check your ego at the door once in a while. Even Aronofsky isn't some huge power player who can get any film off the ground. You said that yourself, he's struggling to get this one financed. If you think it's a done deal, then you're getting ahead of yourself. Them's my two cents; from an adult in the industry, not a kid at home with a DVD player and something to prove.
June 11, 2002, 11:32 a.m. CST
Very empassioned post. Bravo. Uh - one thing. Either write fuck or write f***. Choose one. I can't decide if f*** is a bad word or not, should I write it out? Fuck it. I still want to see the script review.
June 11, 2002, 11:52 a.m. CST
cheese *and* whine!
June 11, 2002, 11:53 a.m. CST
June 11, 2002, 12:03 p.m. CST
As I indicated in my post, I am a fan of Brad Pitt in 12 Monkeys. I can certainly understand if you or others did not care for that particular film, although I've not seen much that Terry Gilliam has done that I don't love. Anyway, my reasons for liking the Brad Pitt of 12 Monkeys are probably not that deep. I just appreciate it when someone who could simply coast on the public's perception of their good looks, actually does something gritty, dirty or eccentric in a role which won't win them brownie points with the "People Magazine, Entertainment Tonight, TRL-watching" type of public that like Ken and Barbie doll performances more than interesting portrayals of non-stereotype characters. So, yeah, I liked Brad Pitt in 12 Monkeys.
June 11, 2002, 12:15 p.m. CST
Whether you like 12 Monkeys or not, you have to respect a movie that doesn't want to fit in. I like the movie, I though Pitt was awesome (and I like that he doesn't take the Barbie and Ken roles), and I thought Bruce was good, too. If you watched it and were indifferent, take another look. If not, there's always the TV. Look, listen, kneel, pray.
June 11, 2002, 12:24 p.m. CST
by la poubelle
It ain't happenin'!! I know many people over at Warners and the plug was officially pulled this morning. That "late breaking" news story is totally bogus!!
June 11, 2002, 12:56 p.m. CST
At most it is nothing more than a seriously fucked up fantasy film, which should be interpreted as a highly imaginative metaphor for the fountain of youth, the meaning of life, that sort of bullshit. Think of "The Fifth Element", but without the element of fun. The next Matrix it is definitively not.
June 11, 2002, 1:53 p.m. CST
by Ambrose Chappell
I'm tellin' ya, it's gonna have something to do with Don Juan Ponce de Leon looking for the fountain of youth in South America in the 16th century.
June 11, 2002, 3:14 p.m. CST
Ahem, whoever this reviewer is obviously doesn't know that the love story in Attack of the Clones was not covered in most of the film. This damn romance between Padme and Anakin is "innocent" and the focus on the romance in the film is mostly on how it might be a sin for both Padme and Anakin. How is this love story supposed to be better? Surely I felt there could have been more development but damn it, this is Star Wars. There is too much Lucas has to tell in this story that he keeps the love story a minimum. I'm beginning to think that people are expecting this love story in Star Wars to be more realistic than it should be.
June 11, 2002, 3:33 p.m. CST
by fun guy
I think I saw a picture of Brad Pitt in the paper the other day and he looked like Grizzly Adams. It was pretty cool looking. Nice beard.
June 11, 2002, 3:42 p.m. CST
I don't hate Episode II, but the love story was weak. Bad junior high poetry acted out by a guy and a girl with almost no chemistry. It doesn't have to be realistic. It doesn't have to be Casablanca. But it would be nice if it were even on par with the love story of She's All That. Darren Aronofsky + Brad Pitt + Cate Blanchett + fantasy + an actual budget = me dying to see.
June 11, 2002, 3:48 p.m. CST
But no one has seen this movie yet, including you ... seeing as they haven't even started shooting yet or anything. Have you read the script? Whatever. The Matrix is a good action flick. But this film has the potential to be a lot more.
June 11, 2002, 3:53 p.m. CST
Because that would mean Aronofsky had compromised his stark artistic sensibilities and made something that would appeal to everyone and their grandma. If box office numbers were a measure of a film's merit, Wild Wild West would be about a hundred or so times better than _____ (insert favorite arthouse film here).
June 11, 2002, 4:55 p.m. CST
by Sod Off Baldric
Then Fight Club cemented the deal. Brad Pitt is one of those rare creatures in today'sHollywood...a pretty-boy who can *gasp* actually act! (A category which also includes Jude Law, by the way) This film sounds like it could be very good indeed. Cate Blanchett is a rather impressive actress, and Aronofsky's visual style is amazing (I don't care what anyone says...I really liked Pi and Requiem for a dream; of course, that doesn't mean that I want to watch either one of those films ever again as they are VERY depressing). I for one am looking forward to learning more about The Fountain.
June 11, 2002, 5:43 p.m. CST
I'd like to thank Harry on behalf of us all for taking down that piece of crap Jason X ad. Now, I'm sure that lots of you will soon be bitching about the Goldmenber ad, but, since so many have bitched about Jason X, I thought it would be best to give props where props are due.
June 11, 2002, 6:51 p.m. CST
(claps hard for Neil Maculey) Bravo.. very well said. I agree with you 110% percent. This bull-dookie about 'reviewing scripts' is ruining the excitement of filmmaking. By the time most of these 'insiders' have finished with all their 'script reviews' and a multitude of conjectures, they're ruined the thrill of watching that film for the very first time.. not knowing much about it.. just expecting a decent moviegoing experience. Well said man.
June 11, 2002, 7:24 p.m. CST
...99 percent of the time, when the subject matter of a big-time project is REALLY out there, seemingly revolutionary in its apparent originality, the end product usually blows in typical Hollywoodian fashion (think Wild Wild West, for instance. A giant mechanical spider in an 1860's setting, built by a legless megalomaniac named Loveless, whose attempts to take over the United States are foiled by the two first secret service agents in existence? Sounds great! Until the movie is released.) Then again, perhaps I'm a little too cynical. Perhaps this film truly shall reveal itself to be a "fountain of youth" for the industry. Only time will tell.
June 11, 2002, 8:27 p.m. CST
by hank quinlan
But lame overdirected drug polemics do not. Requiem sucked. Pi was pretentious but entertaining and not afraid of it's genre trappings. I dug it. This script COULD have potential. Maybe. Or it could just be another stylized arty mess. I think DA has his good points and bad points. I'll tell you bastards when I get a copy of the script. Which will be within a few days. And no, I'm not gonna send you a copy so don't ask. Frankly, I may not even get to read it. I'll be too busy making my own fucking movie. I haven't read Full Frontal OR finished Kill Bill either. Why? Cuz who wants to talk about how great other people's movies will be? Make your own. That's what this guy did and now he gets to make movies with Brad Pitt. Oh and the Night Shift Nurses thing is hilarious. More Porn reviews! I hope it becomes a new thing on the TBs.
June 11, 2002, 9:27 p.m. CST
...as long as you are saying that it sucked the least of any of the American films that year.
June 11, 2002, 11:49 p.m. CST
by Neil MacAuley
...you may be stoned on grass and prozac, but you're passing through this life like the living dead, sifting through the detritus- oops, sorry, I just lapsed into "Michael Mann melodramatic but awesome speech" mode. Which relates to what I have to say. Now please follow me here. What if Arnon Milchan and Warner Bros. dumped Michael Mann's film HEAT from production because they heard about this website where all these so-called 'fans' were complaining that his script was just a retread of an old TV movie that he did in the 80s. Which it was. Essentially the same film; he just made a few tweaks to his old script, made it bigger budget. And knowing this, no one would have said it would work. And you know Moriarty would have broke the story about this overly long, generic, cliche ridden mess of a script and you all would have hurled shit on it, calling it an insult in the face of all the hard-working truly creative people in the industry; especially coming from Mann, who at the time was pretty much written off as a studio hack. Right? Right. And then we would not have had one of the most righteously bad-ass crime thrillers of the past decade, starring out two greatest leading men. Because no one believed it was 'cool' to remake an old TV movie. Know what I mean? Of course you don't. Well, Moriarty doesn't, at least. Because although I agree with Wicker Joe to some extent, my observation is that although most people here claim to be these huge proponents of taking risks on film and going against the corporate blockbuster mentality and supporting the little geek filmmaker who just wants to make odd quirky COOL films for all you genre fans out there -- well, what you're doing here with things like early script 'reviews' is you're contributing to the hurting of that creative process. 9 times out of 10 you're not helping that process (I will conced that websites like this have probably helped some projects). That evolutionary creative process that spawned some fo the best movies of recent years. Some examples. The film "Seven"? The original script was mostly formulaic thriller drivel before Fincher transformed it into an atmospheric masterpiece. Anyone read the early drafts of "Saving Private Ryan?" The opening is them scaling the cliffs of Omaha Beach with grappling hooks, shooting at Germans whilst making quips and one-liners. If that script was 'reviewed' it would have been compared to Sgt. Rock and the geeks would have demanded Spielberg be removed from the project and replaced by Paul Verhoeven (a true hack). In closing, I'd just like to say it's good to see people listened to what I have to say, and honestly it feels like some nice vindication after being banned by the lovely people who bring you this site (thanks for the response to my email asking why I was banned, NOT). But all that's really important is that you do not attach yourself to anyone or anything that you cannot leave in 30 seconds flat if you see the heat around the corner. Can I get a witness?!!
June 12, 2002, 12:05 a.m. CST
by hank quinlan
I wanted to throw my two cents in with Neil and Joe. I see both sides. However I would like to point out that the majority of evidence is that Hollywood while seeming to quake and tremble at AICN and it's ilk could give a shit. I mean they've got McG making Superman. Ashley Judd cranks out one clunker after another. Steven Herek keeps foisting horrible movies on us. I think we get taken into consideration for half a second but do you think movies are marketed to geeks? NO. They are aimed at 14 year old TRLers. Or housewives. All the great unwashed masses. That being said, the thing about being a film buff is you hear about a movie YEARS in advance. And you get so curious. And you used to know nothing until a few months before. And hey, no one on here will stop me from seeing a movie or loving a film regardless. And also, I studiously avoid spoilers. Hell most mainstream reviews on release weekend give away tons! I always wait until after I saw the film to read them. And as for my friends passing me scripts...well...I write. And I want to read screenplays. See how the greats (and not so greats) do it. And those damn things you get at the bookstore are sanitized. You don't get the actual script. You get some italicized transcript of the film. And so sue me for being curious. Plus I never post reviews. That could get someone busted. But if everyone at the production office read it...what's one more guy? People are gonna read it. Can't be secert forever. Also, there's a surefire way to never get a bad review. Write a decent script!
June 12, 2002, 1:18 a.m. CST
It really does sound like Ben Bova's Orion series: time travel and reincarnation, man falls in love with a goddess, and the origin of gods. Would luv to see The Fountain if it even comes close to Bova's novels.
June 12, 2002, 1:54 a.m. CST
Okay, so it is pretty damn bleak. But I still argue that the end is uplifting in its own way. Basically it's the story of an extraordinary thinker who is trapped in a vicious cycle of obsession; he has lost his perspective on life and has walled himself into his private hell. Aronofsky takes him to the breaking point where he is actually ready to reach out to someone and then denies him that catharsis...this in turn leads to the famous "drill" scene, which has been misinterpreted. Everyone thinks that's the end of the movie, but the key sequence follows immediately after that, where Max tries to play the math game with the girl from his apartment building. When he realizes he can no longer act like a human calculator his reaction is ... to smile. It's the first time in the entire movie that he smile's. In the end, Pi is about how Max finally finds his way back to Earth and Aronofsky leaves us with the impression that maybe Max can find some sort of solace or normal life now. How the fuck is THAT depressing?
June 12, 2002, 4:54 a.m. CST
I think "The Last Man," now known as "The Fountain," has to do with Ponce de Leon and the FOUNTAIN of youth! If you're not familiar with the story, look it up on your own time. Here's why: 1. The source states that there is a battle sequence in a jungle, between Spanish guys and Mayan warriors. The time period is not given, but since the source states that we jump to the year 2500, 1000 years later, then it means that the battle takes place in 1500. According to the real story, Ponce de Leon (a Spaniard, in search of this mysterious Fountain of youth) comes to South America, and engages in a battle with the inhabitants of the area at that time - the Mayans! So, we've got de Leon and his Spanish army doing battle with Mayan Warriors in the jungles of South America. 2. The source also states that there is a temple with some big secret. Well, Ponce de Leon heard about some big secret of crystal waters flowing from living springs in which anyone that bathes, would be instantly given immortal youth and great beauty. 3. The source states that we are catapulted 1000 years into the future - 2500, and a man (The Last Man, I suppose) who was one of the men in the battle, 1000 years before, is still alive somehow. Who is he, and How is he still alive? I think this man might be a derivative of de Leon. He is alive because, contrary to the true story which states that de Leon was killed, and never did find this fountain of youth, he does find it - at least maybe that's what Aronofsky is going to do. As stated, this fountain of youth grants those who bathe in it IMMORTAL YOUTH! 4. So given 1, 2 and 3 above, maybe Ponce de Leon (or some derivative of the man) does find this fountain of youth, and since it gives him immortal youth, he stays young forever, and never dies, which is why he is "THE LAST MAN," traveling to the edge of the universe to rendezvous with the big guy himself - G-O-D!!! So, Aronofsky's film might be assuming that the world is going to end in the year 2500 - judgement day - and de Leon is the only one left!!! What happens after that - who knows!! Then again, I could be totally wrong on this! BTW, all those people whining about script reviews need to get over it! If you don't like it, you don't have to read it! No one is forcing anyone to read what lays on websites like this one. If anything, I think the information actually helps build excitement for what's to come. I have, and will still go see a film regardless of what the AICN folk say about it. I think it's silly for any studio to pull out of a film simply because of what a few film geeks have to say about a script review.
June 12, 2002, 5:18 a.m. CST
I'm surprised, when I first saw a posting about this I thought it was going to be a remake of the Omega Man. Just because the idea of that was that Charlton Heston was set up as the last man alive on earth, there was a fountain playing an important part at the end and there seems to have been talk of an Omega Man remake for a few years. Shows how dumb I am I guess.
June 12, 2002, 6:16 a.m. CST
trade completely on the trust that people are willing to betray after it has been given to them. I find that the most curious paradox after reading Harry's pretty sincere take on things like honesty and moralizing in his book. If a filmmaker or writer supplies info directly to Harry or whoever that's one thing but something like Harry's pre-release-mob-style-screening of AOTC is just lame beyond belief. How long did it take for every major media outlet to pick up Harry's story and throw spoilers at the world a full month before the film was released? To what end? To "free" information bursting to get out? Come on. It's so someone (the leak, the mole, whoever) can feel important - that's all and it's mostly pathetic, at least to me. Any other industry that had so many people willingly passing around the development of a project like this would see lawsuits flying constantly. I'm not advocating that at all but I think people inside and outside of the biz disregard that what they do or say with people's material while it's in development can have an effect (not always positive or in the intersts of bettering the material or the eventual film). What's made it all the more frustrating is that now you will see the "real" gatekeepers in Hollywood leaking the information in an attempt to be a part of this risky "buzz or bust" internet environment. When that's assumed (and it pretty much can be) it is hard to pin Harry's site down for long on the topics I mentioned. Look, we're all geeks and that's why we read the stuff here but more often than not I find myself skipping over anything of more note than a casting decision or a project announcement. This other stuff is mostly (MOSTLY) just serving to condition the crappiest type of mainstream film coverage yet known to anyone.
June 12, 2002, 10:10 a.m. CST
But the 2000-year old Juan Ponce De Leon idea sounds closer to the mark.
June 12, 2002, 12:44 p.m. CST
Seehearfeel, I think your synopsis is pretty much the same thing that any halfway intelligent person following this movie has pieced together. If the information that we have is correct, then I would be very surprised if the film's plot turned out to be otherwise. I don't really want to know much else about the movie except for comments regarding the quality of the venture. I certainly hope that the end of the film is not leaked. As far as Internet buzz goes and so forth, it's just a new part of the system. An iffy part, maybe, but it certainly doesn't wield that much authority or power. If it did, many of the movies out in theaters right now probably wouldn't exist (which many of us would agree to be a good thing). We don't really have a right to destroy someone'w work by spoiling plot details and throwing out vitriol for no good reason, but the fanboys should play some sort of minimal part in the process. I wrote a script and directed a short film of it, and my script got into the hands of a lot of people, including my rival filmmakers. It was fine, though, because suddenly people were interested in the movie. If Moriarty has nothing good to say about the script, then I hope he won't say much because who knows how the project may change or develop...so in a way, I agree with Neil. I don't think a negative review by Drew would truly hurt the film's production status, though. And, knowing how Moriarty works, I'm inclined to believe that his review will likely be positive and will do nothing but be supportive.
June 12, 2002, 2:55 p.m. CST
Boat of a 1,000 years or whatever the title was.
June 12, 2002, 4:02 p.m. CST
The more scripts that get stolen the better. Yeah i hate when the studios all release the same type of film at the same time (armegeddon, and the other meteor movie with frodo in it). But seriously, the more people get to read cool stories with fresh ideas, the more cool stories will come out because the seed gets planted and the guy reading it has a cool idea of his own. Yes, yes, yes, i know that plagerism sucks, and ripping off a script with a near duplicate is crappy, but could Blade have gotten made with advanced knowledge of Matrix? i think not.
June 12, 2002, 4:41 p.m. CST
For starters we can all agree Night Shift Nurses is a work of art, however, it is serously flawed. But since it came out sooo long ago most of those who have seen it at the time see it with a view of nestagia. By the time the sequal came out there were many imitators, and it appears the director lost his touch. It seemed he totaly threw out character developement for the one thing that he felt could carry it, sex. Night Shift Nurses 2 fails not as a continuance of the story line (which it succeeds on) but as a stand alone movie, and I'm am pissed of those Night Shift Nurses fanboys who say if the movie can not stand alone it sucks. To admire Night Shift Nurses 2 you have to watch the first one. The Candy Striper movies benifeted from the mistakes of the Night Shift Nurses movie. Well that is all I have to say here.
June 12, 2002, 6:48 p.m. CST
Condone righteous acts of violence.
June 12, 2002, 8:24 p.m. CST
Yeah, but by the time scripts reach places like this, they've already been reviewed on at least a dozen tracking sites used in the industry. And who would rather have review your script? Moriarty, who nearly busts a gut praising it? Or some $50-a-script freelance reader who could really care less and just wants to get on to the next one?
June 12, 2002, 9:09 p.m. CST
...I'm pretty sure that the "benign" earlier article about The Fountain was not the only target of the vitriol. I suspect it's a reference to all the other venom (which I neither condone or condemn) spewed toward Warner Brothers as of late on this site (re: Wonder Twins, Maria Poppins, etc.) Neil, your lengthy post was right on. If I ever get off the couch and write one of those scripts I dream about, I wouldn't want it subject in its incipient stage to the vicious attacks of the harpies that frequent this place. And unlike others, my life would be lesser without the existence of Mann's Heat, so point acknowledged.
June 13, 2002, 2:21 a.m. CST
http://www.filmjerk.com/archives/0206/020610supergirl.html // 'Nuff said.
June 13, 2002, 3:03 a.m. CST
I saw Mr. B. Pitty at the Lakers game on tv and he looks like he just returned from the forrest where his vast collection of R. Kelly cd's were stolen and hes on a revenge spree. Dude, why grow the hair, use makeup people. How do you expect to get laid looking like hobo? I know I'm ranting, but I just dont understand how people cant be as good looking as me.
June 13, 2002, 3:21 a.m. CST
Word brother. (or sister).
June 13, 2002, 12:52 p.m. CST
Though Brad Pitt does when he stars in movies opposite annoying actresses like Julia Roberts. The fact that a big star like Brad Pitt is getting all shaggy for the sake of this movie (we assume), you know, to make it more real, shows Pitt's devotion to projects and directors that he believes in. Sure, maybe the air-headed women that fantasize about him find it horrifying, but if film buffs can't respect it, then film buffs suck just as much as air-headed women.
June 13, 2002, 1:36 p.m. CST
If you don't want to ruin the experience of a movie, then don't read the fucking script review? How fucking difficult is that? It's only "ruining" the exerience if you let it. AND, if you think Hollywood gives a flying fucknig crap about what gets onto this website, then I've got a bridge to sell you, because you're fucking crazy.
June 13, 2002, 9:52 p.m. CST
Admit it, you hate him because you want to hate him. I want to hate him. We all want to hate him. When I'm damn near 40, I'm not going to look like Brad Pitt. I'm not going to have the power, money, fame, wife, or life that Brad Pitt bathes in. That pisses me off just as much as the rest of you ugly greasy no talent fanboys. Shit, I went to the University of Kansas. Brad Pitt went to the University of Missouri (misery), and he was a FRATBOY. It is predetermined in the universe's ultimate destiny that I despise Brad Pitt with every fiber of my being. But I am man enough to admit it. He rocked in Snatch. He rocked in Fight Club. He rocked in 12 Monkeys. He even rocked in True Romance. I was hoping I'd be able to hate him forever after I saw Cool World (altogether now, EEEEEAAAAAHHHH! HUGGGLLLLGGHHH. URP.) But the bastard just rocks and it pisses me off to no freakin' end, just like those Satan-worshiping cousin-marrying tattoed hillbilly freaks called Misery basketball fans. But Brad Pitt...I'll see anything with him in it. Well...almost anything. If he does anything with Julia Horseface "What Brother Eric?" Roberts, fogitaboutit.
June 14, 2002, 4:52 a.m. CST
You live life caring so much how a movie star is living life? Boo hoo, I am sick of that. I go through days with guys who wish they were as good looking as me and girls who hate me cause they know cant get with me. Just because I am who I am, my gf is hot and rich herslef, should I feel sorry for people who dont even know me but judge me on what I look like or a the visible side?
June 14, 2002, 12:15 p.m. CST
I find it hard to believe that you would not be perceived as WB bashing, with everything bad you've said about them, questioning the intelligence of, and addictions of, anybody in management regularly. I've found it funny, and I'm not criticizing the articles previously posted, I found them amusing. But come on! Don't pretend you didn't editorialize and insult WB in those articles!
June 14, 2002, 10:23 p.m. CST
Hey Viper, just trying to be funny so cool your handsome hot jets down. On another note, if your going to come with some backsmack, at least double-check your typing. Jackass.
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