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ALIEN VS PREDATOR out to writers... again
Hey folks, Harry here... Seems that Producer John Davis and Fox have a take on ALIEN VS PREDATOR that they like and are pursuing, they've only got to find a writer to write the screenplay now.
First, who is this John Davis producer chap? Well, he's got some odd properties he's attached to, like an ENCYCLOPEDIA BROWN film, a GARFIELD movie, MAN FROM U.N.C.L.E., MAGNUS: ROBOT FIGHTER, THE RIFLEMAN, SHOWTIME: THE HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS STORY, THREE'S COMPANY the movie. He's currently the producer on the Tom Cruise THE LAST SAMURAI film that is set to shoot down in New Zealand, if what I hear is correct. He's produced the DR DOLITTLE films, JIMMY NEUTRON: BOY GENIUS, BEHIND ENEMY LINES, COURAGE UNDER FIRE, THE HUNTED, WATERWORLD, THE THING CALLED LOVE and the original PREDATOR and PREDATOR 2.
Now it seems the story that they've decided to pursue involves some 600 year old technology gur named Gideon Lee, who has extended his life via technology and secrets gained from a crashed PREDATOR ship up in like Tibet centuries ago. Now he has decided to use a bunch of ALIEN eggs to make a hostile 'Hunt' attractive environment for the Predators to come back and hunt in, while he and his team set to study their technology and so he can get more of whatever is prolonging his life. Apparently there is also a reporter that gets caught in the middle of this and of course it all goes to hell.
This kinda blends the 'fucking corporation' concepts of ALIEN and ALIENS... along with the visceral hunt cool of the PREDATOR flicks. This could work out if they attach a damn fine screenwriter. Now of all the projects that John Davis is involved in, the one I'm most excited about is the Alex Proyas film version of I, ROBOT! That's some coolness we can all get behind!
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I would sure hope so! Whose attached to direct this thing again? I hope it's someone good...
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Not exactly the comic book series but close enough. Sounds interesting. Let's hope they put this on the FAST track.
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It can't be any worse than the video game
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And dragons should be intelligent and talk. Seriously though. Stick to the outline kids. The AVP comic kicked much ass and was great story already. And no, Arnold doesn't need to be in this one.
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...nooooo! This will never be a good idea, and will stall like Freddy Does Jason. Why not just make a porno with the Alien sticking its cock-tongue-thing up the Predator's vagina-substitute-face (you wanna talk Top Gun as homosexual subtext? Try Predator instead - all boys together trying to destroy something with a fadge for a face?) and be done with it! The ultimate movie monster sexual organ substitutes in a one on one corrosive blood fist fuck fest! Man versus woman, penis versus vagina, it's a Freudian dream and attaching the producer of Doctor "FUCKING SHIT" Dolittle to this means we'll get at least one twat involved. Let it go, no-one cares any more except the AVP computer game fans, and they know Predator kicks everyone's ass anyway.
In other words - I don't think this will work. I hope I have to eat my words, I really do, but for now - big fat doody on AVP. P$ -
...since Lorenzo Music died last year (which is why the latest TV commercials with Garfield in them have just a silent Garfield)? Also, how can they do an ENCYCLOPEDIA BROWN movie? Will he defuse a rogue nuke with the shocking plot twist revelation that the evil scientist must be lying since there is not a "February 30th", even in leap years?
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This could be a great action film or straight to video. We'll have to wait and see which it is.
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Ext. Barren Planet
We see a horde of CGI Predators and Aliens forming battle lines.
Ben Affleck and Matt Damon are standing between them.
They attack each other and kill Affleck and Damon, and they also kill off each other...
(except for one egg of each species)
As the screen begins to fade, the eggs hatch.
I wake up from my nap.
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*COULD* be good. Aliens on Earth? If they manage to escape a la Jurassic Park, are we looking at a fucked up forked-storyline or what?
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Skip the Aliens and give the Predator some SOLID competition! ====>
UNDERCOVER BROTHER VS. PREDATOR
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This sounds suspiciously like Chris Claremont's Deadliest of the Species series from Dark Horse.
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No, the scientist is caught when he *says* he really hid the formula between pages three and four of the third volume of the Lincoln biography, but is thwarted when Encyclopedia Brown exposes the lie: You CAN'T hide something between pages three and four of a book! // Then Bugs Meany shows up and promptly gets eaten by an Alien, ending the charade. // e.
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I really doubt this will ever happen. Nough said. Anyway, I always though the aliens were much more interesting than the predators. I hate it when my friends go, "Well, in the comic book, the Predator wins," to which I respond, "No, the Alien is much cooler than the Predator." Ultimately, though, I'd rather see a new movie about something other than Alien VS Predators... but in the same vein.
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Will there be any human involvement at all? I hope so, bring actors in so we care about something in the flick. Oh, and since when did the Predator's face look like a vagina? Damned if I'd screw any woman with that thing downstairs - it bites, fer christs sake! (apologies if any offence caused).
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IRON GIANT vs. MOTHRA. Hogarth can keep the twin Cosmos in his Tom Mix lunchbox. "Look - it's attacking Rockport!"
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It's 15 years later for crying out loud! My worst fear is seeing this be nothing more than a CGI jerkoff, frag fest.
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... that bad-mouths Encyclopedia Brown gets a fork to the eyeball. Holy shit- how could that NOT be a cool movie? Look, 'Spy Kids' was the kiddie's equivalent of 'James Bond,' which is cool. But hey, Encyclopedia Brown is the Sherlock Holmes for the wee ones... SHERLOCK FREAKIN' HOLMES, people! The whole using-your-head-not-your-super-magnetic-laser-watch-to-fight-crime thing. This can + will work, so stop being such sarky pricks + be happy for this Davis dude. As for A vs. P... hmmm... Out.
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Jun 05, 2002 8:32:54 PM CDT
This produces seems to have not made one good film except for Pr
by thematarife
Hopefully they will get a good director.
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Jun 05, 2002 8:36:36 PM CDT
Predators face doesn't look like that, and the new videogame
by thematarife
I never beat the alien or predator missions, but the marine campaign was pretty cool. The smartgun r teh roxor.
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That plot line is a direct copy of the Aliens vs. Predator Eternal mini-series that Dark Horse published a little over a year ago. It's not a bad story, but I was hoping for something a little more original.
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...it just seems to me to be awfully thin material upon which to base an entire movie. I just know they're going to embellish the stories with some sort of lame-ass "Encyclopedia Brown saves the world" sort of storyline, which I hate and which wouldn't be in the spirit of the novels. Now, if each movie was a series of 5 or 6 shorter vignettes, perhaps based directly on stories from the books or new mysteries in the spirit of the books, I could dig that.
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The Encyclopedia Brown series on HBO or Showtime that was directed by the one and only Savage Steve Holland? That guy rules. I wonder what old Savage is up to?
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Predators hunt Aliens on the Alien homeworld. All hell breaks loose. No dialogue. All nature and weird wildlife. Like "Quest For Fire," "The Bear" or "Never Cry Wolf." You'll have my $9. End of story.
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Now that would be a cool movie! Aliens can sit around spitting acid and cheering the Predator on his hunt for Knowles. Groovy baby.
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I don't think it ever made it to Canada... Candian cable TV sucks sometimes (since cable companies are not permitted to carry HBO), though Percy Spencer is allowed to say "Fuck" on KEVIN SPENCER, so Canadian cable can also be pretty cool sometimes.
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Jun 05, 2002 9:49:18 PM CDT
Not the kind of story I would have imagined to set up the AvP mo
by psyclops
I'd still like to see the original Dark Horse comic book story told on the big screen. This is a movie that I've been waiting to see for a very long time, I'm sure everyone out there feels the same... let's just hope that FOX and this Davis guy get everything right and don't turn this into a mindless popcorn flick (I don't want to see a PG-13 rating with Ben Affleck in the lead role). The 600 year old man searching for eternal life using both species as pawns in his game is a decent enough concept and one that could probably work if the right people are involved (great screenwriter, great director and a solid cast). One of the worst things about ALIEN RESURRECTION was the terrible casting of shitty, over-the-top actors in some of the major roles - I don't want to see Dan Hedaya, J.E. Freeman or Gary Dourdan go anywhere near another ALIEN film (I'll forgive Ryder, Perlman and Weaver since they pretty much made the movie watchable). So if there is anyone out there who is reading this and is involved in the process of making this movie... please take my advice and put some real thought into turning this project into the best that it can possibly be (and it can be great). Give us a movie that is gonna kick our asses!!!
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I hate it when I am negative. I want to be positive more than anything else in the world. Unfortunately, I have to do everything possible in the meantime to stomp out this worthless idea of a movie. If anyone who is attached to this "project" is reading, tell him the only way movie geeks will line up to see this abomination from Tibet is if the title is: "Predator vs Alien vs Scooby Doo." Freddy Prinze would make a fine stand-in for Arn. And yes, I certainly would go see that movie.
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I gotta agree. The charm of E.B. came from the fact that he was a petty kid with a big brain solving petty crimes. Yeah, if they tried to get too big (ie. E.B. brings down a terrorist ring bent on introducing carcinogens into cafeteria beanie-weenies.) I still think it could work, though TV is the better route, like... whoever it was said so. When was there an E.B. series? I thought kiddie detective shows began with the Edison Twins + died with Shirley Holmes. Out.
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Who wants to see an Alien Vs. Predator movie? I know I don't.
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Jun 05, 2002 11:34:58 PM CDT
This idea has jumped the shark before it's even been written
by wee willie
BTW ATOC sucked
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Jun 05, 2002 11:56:58 PM CDT
Ah yes, those fearsome Tibetan monks, the ultimate sport...
by critical bill
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I agree with you about the "Alien: Resurrection" cast - in particular Dan Hedaya. For God`s sake, did he think he was in a different movie or something? But dude, when you mentioned the people who were okay, you forgot Michael Wincott! He played the leader of the 'space pirates', remember? He was the only cool character in the damn movie - but OF COURSE he died first, in the single lamest death scene in the series. Okay, this guy`s supposed to be the leader of these badass space pirates, and what does he do? Go walking down a damn dark spooky corrider all by himself!! You knew he was gonna die like ten friggin` minutes before it happened! P.S.- "Garfield: The Movie"? Okay. I can live with that I guess. "Encyclopedia Brown: The Movie"? Hmmm....could work, I suppose. But for the love of all that is sacred and holy....."THREE`S COMPANY: THE MOVIE"??!!?? That is the single dumbest idea for a movie I have *ever* heard.
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bring on the Magnus, baby!! Thats would simply rule. period.
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If they really want to make a good Alien VS. Predator film then they need to come up with a story that makes the actual AVP story secondary while something really poignant happens in the mix. A guy trying to prolong his life sounds too hammy. you need some bad ass marines who want to study how the predators hunt, so they can learn from them, then they end up getting picked off one by one themselves, only to beat them but have a few aliens left over - they then use the predator techniques to kick some alien butt cheeks. But then again, read the subject title of this post.
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I love all of those silent flicks you just made, and I think it could be a busload of fun if that somewhat "artsy" style was applied to such a gung-ho, testosterone-infused premise. Let's remember, many of the most effective scenes in PREDATOR *were* silent. Let the action and visuals tell the story.
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Jun 06, 2002 1:34:16 AM CDT
"Ah yes, those fearsome Tibetan monks, the ultimate sport..."
by gurglesnap
hahahahaha ha ha ha ha. .. . . Nice.
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The plot apparently revolves some kind of misunderstanding. With a sub-plot of Chrissy messing up (or possibly eating) something Jack was cooking for his Cooking class.
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It sounds a little hokey to me. Some guy using predator tech to prolong his life??? I think they can come up with a better concept then this. Ah hell it may be to late for an AvP movie, like someone already mentioned.
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Now that's a movie. Can't you just see that chest burster popping out of Chrissie's tube top?
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Jun 06, 2002 1:52:10 AM CDT
I like it! Mr. Roper, Mrs. Roper and Mr. Furley are the new '
by regis travolta
I'm getting my ticket right now from moviefone.com!
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they followed the story arc of the Alien vs. Predator 2 video game. No, I kid you not! As crazy upside down as it seems I think culling a story from a video game would be much more entertaining than the crap these movie writers usually come up with. If you've played the game through as all 3 characters you'd know what I'm talking 'bout.
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sounds like the worst storyline ever, they better make this movie good dammit.
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I totally agree with your comments about Michael Wincott, he was probably the best damn thing about ALIEN RESURRECTION. When he stepped onto that docking platform alongside his crew of misfit space pirates wearing his badass leather trenchcoat I was sure he was to become the coolest character to appear in an ALIEN film since Vasquez! But what did they do? They fucking killed him in one of the worst death scenes in that entire movie!!! Actually, I take that back. The "kill shot" itself was pretty brutal but his character deserved much more screen time. The worst death in that movie was Dan Hedaya's "Oops, my brains have fallen out and I'm going to die cross eyed" swan song. God, I really hate talking about that movie. I fucking love ALIENS, it's been my favorite flick since my parents took me to see it in the summer of 1986 (I was seven years old and nearly shit myself when that first Chestburster ripped through the colonist in the cocoon chamber... wish I knew what the hell my parents were thinking when they decided that ALIENS would be my first 'R' rated feature). Anyway, I had been dreaming of a sequel for years after that and nearly had a heart attack when I caught the first promo teaser for ALIEN 3 (you guys remember that egg floating through the starfield?), I counted the days till May 22, 1992... I COUNTED THE DAYS!!! Okay,... I'm sorry... I'm just rambling now. My point is that I liked ALIEN 3, was crushed and disappointed by ALIEN RESURRECTION and look forward to an AvP movie or at least a fifth ALIEN film to end the series with a bang. Plus, it would kick major ass to witness the dreadlocked space hunter use his heavy metal arsenal against a horde of Alien Warriors on the big screen. Well, I can dream... can't I?
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Upright Citizens Brigade VS Predator. Just imagine the surprise on the Pred's vagina-like faces when they discover the Aliens are really just Adair and Colby in chaos-inducing Alien suits. Now that's the sort of Parody both franchises deserve.
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Jun 06, 2002 5:04:28 AM CDT
dead franchise movie monster vs. any other crap you can think of
by audio vandal
predator 2 = lame...alien resurrection = lame..predator spin off comics = lame ...alien spin off comics = lame...sounds like a good premise for a movie !
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Is It me or did the aliens in Ressurection look lame as hell.
Watching the whole movie I totally lost my interest with all things Alien. How could of things got so bad. Damn Fox studio and fuck them up their stupid asses. Remember their the assholes who cut the most important scene in Aliens . The one where Ripley finds out her daughter has died while she was floating in space for those 57 years. This was Weavers moment and the fucks pissed on it.It explained the whole thing with Newt, why she was pissed off in that board meeting, everything. Shit like that makes me wonder about the people running the movie business. Weaver got screwed out of her oscar for that deleted scene.I hear Weaver and Cameron are still pissed off about it all these years. Hell I'm still pissed off about it. Then the fucking pricks had to totally screw Fincher on Alien 3, motherfuckers. To me almost all hope is lost for AvP and Alien 5. I don't know if there is any way left for the studio fucks to redeem their blasphemy when it comes to the alien series.By the way a nature concept no dialogue is a great idea for AvP. At least it would totally break the alien formula and start anew, and the bear ruled -
Jun 06, 2002 7:09:53 AM CDT
I dont know 1 person named Gideon, but everyone is named Gideon
by jabbathenutt
whats up with dat?
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Face it everyone, Predator is a cool idea but the first movie was mediocre and the second one sucked! Alien ruled, ALiens was pretty damn cool, ALien 3 could have been better and Alien Ressurection killed the whole fucking franchise! Aliens v Predator should stick to comics and games, cos neither of them could work as a movie again on their own, let alone together.
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Jun 06, 2002 9:05:28 AM CDT
There's only one film franchise crossover I'M interested
by rev_skarekroe
...and that's Robocop vs. The Bad News Bears. C'mon Hollywood, get with it! sk
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I bought the Predator Special Edition DVD when it came out on Monday (sorry Yank buddies, it's only available in England and Australia for the time being) and it brought back to me how much love I have for this film and this franchise. The original Predator is just a fantastic film! I'm not talking Lawrence of Arabia fantastic more Die Hard, The Matrix, Terminator fantastic! And one thing that I will probably never get the chance to say again....Arnie is excellent in it! I don't just mean he has the physical presence of Commando, Conan, Terminator, Running man, I mean his acting is suprisingly good in it! Watch the for sly little look that he gives to the General at the start of the film when he explains about the chopper going down, watch for the little subletys during his verbal sparring with Carl Weathers. Little squints of the eyes and looks ("what happened to you Dylan") along with the compulsory "Arnie lines". He's very good in this film. The DVD has some fantastic features. Commentary, a 30min Making of, special effects segments, 4 deleted scenes etc. Theres some really good inside info on the film. Like when Jean Claude Van Damme auditioned to play the Predator thinking he would be playing the bad guy to Arnie's good guy not knowing he would be inside a suit the whole time. Apparently he lasted a week in the original suit and quit because it was so awkward. The original suit was terrible. Like a reptilian version of those bad guys in StarGate. It looked crap. Then Arnie gets Stan Winston in on the job. Winston was sitting next to Jim Cameron on a flight to LA, doing some sketches for the Predator. Cameron takes a look and says "Y'know, I've always wanted to see something with mandibles." Winston then started doing sketches for Predators with mandibles and the end result is the Predator you see in the film. So I guess we have Jim Cameron to thank for the greatest ever movie alien. Then theres Jesse Ventura arguing with Arnold about who has the biggest arms, Jesse Ventura going on about how he is the only one who can pick up "ol' painless", how "ol' painless" was one of the biggest and most popular "chracters" on the set, how ol' painless had to be modified so you could see it firing (the ammo that the average man could carry on his back was only equal to a 5 second burst), how the effects shots we're achieved by a guy getting dressed up in a big red suit, how Arnie got a severe case of the shits after eating in a local restaurant and had to spend part of the production with an I.V drip in his arm (apparently you can see his weight fluctuate in the film) and much more. A great DVD. Don't know when it comes out in the US but definately worth a look when it does!
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This is probably the most substancive report on the sci-fi dream project I have yet to see, which is good news. Plot's pretty straight forward. As I've said numerous times before, the script writes itself: Preadators go hunting Aliens, with humans stuck in the middle. Give us a sympathetic female lead--perhaps Lynn Kurosawa from the video game?--and make it more a survival story than an action flick and you're golden. It's not hard guys, just keep it tight.
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"Wait, those bleed acid!" "Ok, forget it. Let's do something that's only almost as dangerous" "What, like run for office?" "That'll do".
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I centered it on a group of miners that crash on the same planet Alien started out on, a planet, it turns out, that the A's and the P's are fighting over. Why were they sent towards this planet? What do the suits at Weyland Yutani Corp. know? Then, caught in a battle between two higher lifeforms, the miners discover why they were sent here. They've been sent here for the same reason the Aliens and Predators are here...
...I guess it was more of a prequel... but I always thought the back story that led up to Alien was pretty interesting, and shed a lot more light on the rest of the series, especially Alien and Aliens. Oh well, back to the drawing board. -
Hey,
There appear to be several John Davis
clones running around. This particular John Davis is NOT the same one that did Jimmy Neutron - that was John A. Davis (me).
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Imagine it. After two horrific battles against the evil dead, Bruce Campbell faces the next ultimate horror. Yes, it's "Ash vs. Aliens." Let's get Sam Raimi and Fox together on this. It needs to be made!
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I find it hard to believe that fox hasn't opted to expand on the amazing Predator series illustrated beautifully in Dark Horse's "Predator: Big Game" or "Predator: Cold War" These comic sub series make you crave everything these studio scripts could never quench. With Darkhorse's Aliens vs. Predator you could watch and believe humans become allies with these sidistic hunters. Thats what fanboy wants to see. Screw the body camo, Screw the telescopic spears. We want to see these 7 foot bad asses partner up with humans and waste some aliens. Personally I would rather never see an AvP if I have to sit through another X-Men. Statue of Libery......Come On.
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Jun 06, 2002 12:27:41 PM CDT
I Think It's Time For All Sound Minded Geeks To Let This One
by nocureforfools
it's not happening, people. never.
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Aliens have super blood. As soon as one of those stupider than dirt predaters tried to take a skull he'd be dead. They wouldn't comunicate it to their other predators because hunters hunt solo, they dopnt hunt in packs like aliens. No way could a predator survive.
'Nuff Said.
PLEASE go and find a way to see the Battle Royale movie, and look at the article posted today about the asiaAICN article on it.
Battle Royal is better than Star Wars, and Spiderman, and XMEN, and yes, Predator, and welll maybe not ALien part one, but all the rest yes. -
Arnold Schwarzenegger, James Cameron and John Mctiernan.
Don't get either one of them, then this movie will stink. -
Jun 07, 2002 12:09:10 AM CDT
dammit, I wanna see ANYTHING "Aliens vs. Predator"!! the plot is
by tall_boy
yeah, you heard me right, I just wanna see them slug it out. Keep the original comic book concept, keep the modern day crashed predator version, go with this new one, I DON'T FREAKING CARE!!!! ahhhhh... who am I kidding, this flick will never make it out of development hell... or it might, verrrryyy slowly.
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Jun 07, 2002 2:30:53 AM CDT
Aliens vs. Predator must have hordes of aliens and predators and
by lord_soth
And the marines' screentime should be limited to 15 minutes.
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i guess the predators are smarter than some people thought. if you look in the "trophy case" in the ship at the end of Predator 2 you can distinctly see an alien skull hanging on the wall. Isn't crossover minutae grand?
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Jun 07, 2002 6:27:05 PM CDT
Alien 5 without Ripley would be like Star Wars without the Jedi
by 11111
Godzilla type monster verses monster with hapless extras being
slaughtered gratuitously, both franchises will end up in the shitter. -
Jun 07, 2002 6:31:55 PM CDT
Alien 5 without Ripley would be like Star Wars without the Jedi,
by 11111
Fox has got to accept that the Alien franchise isn
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THREE'S COMPANY: THE MOVIE could star the original Jack as Jack's dad. Only he turns out to be a murderous android, intent on establishing his own household in a hidden basement. How's that for original?
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Honestly I think this will be a scorcher of a flick, I'd pay twice to see it aslong as the script works...
..and to be honest I think people like P.$sinclair etc who keep going on and on should stop being such fcuking cry babies and just wait till its released if ever and not go on like a bunch of grannies! - SO WHAT IF ITS FULL OF CGI, OR DOESNT GO ON ABOUT SOMEONE'S DAUGHTER'S DOG'S SISTERS MOM THAT DIED OF HEAT STROKE 50 YEARS BEFORE MY ARSE WAS BORN. All I wanna see is a good film, I'm not gonna spend all day bitching about it, I bet you lot went into Star Wars 1 LOOKING for the special effects just to bitch about them.. I enjoyed to film, it wasnt the bollox but who cares!
Here's a tip, next time you go down the flicks to see a film, even AVP leave your narrow mindedness, your little geeks notepad and pencil and your cgi hating 'shitty' prop loving hard-ons at home and just try and enjoy the fcuking movie!!
Sheeesh, next you'll be telling me Britney isnt good lucking!! -
Mmmm... Britney...
"Britney Spears vs Predator" : The Predators go hunting for Britney, not to kill her, but to take her back to their home planet and make her their queen because they like her music. Then she goes medieval on some Alien ass. Then a lesbian sex scene with Call. That would be cool.
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