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Moriarty Visits The Set Of DAREDEVIL

Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.

EXT. ROOFTOP – HELL’S KITCHEN - NIGHT

A FILM CREW is split into several units, all of them working to bring the Marvel Comics property DAREDEVIL to big-screen life.

One unit is setting up for a series of complicated cable-cam shots, while another unit is busy capturing footage of JENNIFER GARNER in full Elektra gear leaping off a roof in pursuit of Daredevil, who is not actually on-set, since he’s at the premiere of SUM OF ALL FEARS in Washington.

And as everyone works to set up the next scenes and finish the current scenes, two guys stand off to the side, trying to be unobtrusive even as they marvel (all puns intended) at what they’re seeing.

That was the scene last Friday night in downtown Los Angeles as my buddy Craig and I found ourselves invited at the last minute to come down and watch a night’s worth of work on Mark Steven Johnson’s $75 million adaptation of his life-long favorite comic character.

We could see the set from blocks away, as soon as we got off the 110 Freeway. Giant lights on top of buildings, the entire area lit up brightly at the street level. It looked like you could land airplanes right there on Skid Row. Cop cars were parked around each bank of lights, and the parking garage had fairly heavy security.

We were literally in the part of downtown that Adam Rifkin was talking about in his current sleeper hit A NIGHT AT THE GOLDEN EAGLE, and when we parked and walked down to the street, we called Brian, Mark Steven Johnson’s assistant, and asked him to come find us.

Looking up at the buildings across the street, we could see elaborate wire rigging over the buildings, but we couldn’t really see much else. It was just a few moments before we were joined by Brian. Craig and I agreed later that Brian was the spitting image of Keifer Sutherland in Fox’s 24. Thanks to the film’s night schedule, he even had a bit of that same bleary-eyed manic energy going. He led us across the street and over to a large industrial cage elevator that ran up the side of the building. A guy was waiting there to operate the thing, and we headed up to the top floor, where Brian led us inside.

The entire top floor of the otherwise empty building has been transformed into a production office, with the various departments all housed in rooms that they’ve built. It’s impressive, big-budget filmmaking at its most efficient. They’ve been using this one cluster of buildings, adapting them from scene to scene, redressing them as the whole of New York’s skyline.

We had to walk up from that floor to the actual rooftop, and when we got there, we were shown the cable-cam rig first, a special setup that was going to be used later in the fight between the night’s two stars: Bullseye and Elektra. Anyone who is a fan of the comic understands that this is a pretty big evening in comic history. This is something special being brought to life, one of those moments that fans have been waiting to see for a lot of years. Brian told us that they were shooting several units at once, though, and that they were rolling on another roof. As we followed him over to where the action was, we passed a broken window smeared in blood, and he explained just what had happened there. I’m going to try and tread lightly on spoilers, but I’ll say that it sounds like an intense moment, a brutal ending to a fight just before someone learns something shattering about their opponent.

We rounded a corner, and the first thing we saw was Jennifer Garner, strapped into a wire rig, standing on the edge of a roof. I enjoyed the pilot for ALIAS quite a bit, but I only watch a certain number of hours of television a week, and I never made room for the series on my schedule. I’m beginning to think I made a mistake.

You saw Elektra’s costume yesterday for the first time, and I’ve read all the criticism and feedback and reaction, and I keep flashing on Kevin Feige as he said to me, “We’ve learned so much from the reaction on the original X-MEN. People saw the costumes out of context, and they freaked out. When they saw the film, it was totally different. We’ve learned that the initial negative reaction is just part of the process.” The same thing happened when The Green Goblin was photographed on the Downey “Unity Day Festival” sets. Marvel considered putting out a hero shot of the Goblin that they prepared, a shot that was later released as a bus poster. In the end, they decided not to make their marketing reactive to Internet leaks, and just stick to the schedule they’d already decided on. That photo yesterday is certainly clear and in-focus and features the whole costume, but it hardly tells the same story as seeing her move in it. James Acheson, who designed the costumes on SPIDER-MAN, is performing the same function here, and in my opinion, the Elektra costume is both functional for a fighter and just plain hot. Yes, she’s in black instead of the traditional red. That’s not unheard of over the run of the books, but that’s hardly the point. Color is an important part of the overall design of this film, and red is being used for two things: Daredevil and blood. The rest of the picture, all shot and processed using a bleach bypass look by Ericson (FAST & THE FURIOUS, 187, PAYBACK) Core, is carefully designed so that when that red shows up, it’s going to pop off the screen. A rose laid on the grave of a father. The life slowly ebbing out of a superhero, washed away by a heavy rain. It’s supposed to have a certain impact, and dressing Elektra in black was by design. This isn’t a superhero that Garner is playing. This is a girl whose father is killed, who goes after the person she holds responsible, and I believe her simply choosing clothes that she adapts to wear, instead of having some custom-made one of a kind costume. She’s not like Matt Murdock, with an entire lifestyle that has been chosen. For him, the costume makes sense. Bullseye is dressed real world, as well, and in every case, it’s clear that these designs were all created to allow the cast to move, first and foremost. This is a film in which much ass is kicked, and they can’t have the leads encased in immobile sculpted rubber a la BATMAN, and where spandex would seem a little... light. This is a world where leather and metal and snakeskin makes sense.

As we walked up, Jennifer was rehearsing for a stunt. Brian told us how Jennifer has done more of her own stunts than anyone expected at the start of the shoot. I admit, I had trouble focusing on what he was saying because I was watching Garner between rehearsals. She had a Sai, full-weight and made of metal, that she kept spinning between takes, twirling it with a practiced ease, the weapon a blur and her barely thinking about it. “She’s been doing that for two months now,” Brian said, smiling. “Pretty amazing, isn’t she? She’s going home for a while, and we’re actually shipping the Sais there so she can keep working with them.” She looked like a gunslinger in an old Western, so used to their particular weapon that it was more an extension of themselves than a separate thing. When you see Garner in the film, it’s her doing it. It’s not a digital trick. It’s not someone else’s hands cut in to make her look good. She’s like a machine, according to everyone we talked to, pushing herself every day to do more than they expect. She’s on the verge of stardom, with ALIAS already having given her a solid fanbase. Marvel Studios signed Garner to an option for two more films as this character (although just how that’ll work in continuity is a point they were notably slippery about, so as to protect the plot points of this and future films), including one film that focuses entirely on her. They have full faith in her.

Watching the four or five takes they did for this particular action beat wasn’t enough to give any sense of performance. Basically, she was just running to the edge of a roof in pursuit of someone, then jumping off. She was wearing a wire rig that will be removed later, and after the jump, she would just swing back towards the rooftop, where a guy would step out to catch her and stop her from swinging.

And that wasn’t the best job on the set. Oh, no. That would be the job of the two wardrobe assistants who snuck out between takes to rub leather polish onto the costume, effectively shining Garner’s ass. At least twice, Craig watched this process and fainted. He also started trying to bribe Mark Steven Johnson into letting him have that job, offering all sorts of contraband, cash, and favors, all to no avail.

Evidently, ass buffing is a union gig.

Speaking of Mark... it was at his invitation that Craig and I were visiting the other night. This wasn’t some junket visit, some managed publicity event. Mark and Craig are friends, and Mark and I have had an interesting evolution to our relationship. I am embarrassed now by the fervor with which I first attacked Mark on this site, and because of that, I understand where a lot of our Talk Backers go wrong sometimes. I worshipped the novel A PRAYER FOR OWEN MEANY, and when Mark adapted the book into a radically re-worked story, I didn’t just reject the adaptation: I attacked it. And what I wrote was mean-spirited in the way that good, serious criticism shouldn’t be. I’ll be the first to admit that sometimes you go too far in writing a pan of a film. And a big part of why I acknowledge that is because of the way Mark and I finally met and spoke to each other. Instead of it being a contentious slugfest (something I sort of deserved, truth be told), it was a conversation. One thing was immediately clear when we sat down to talk... we both loved John Irving’s novel. We just loved very different things about it. Our conversation drifted that first time we spoke, and one of the things that came up was his long-time love of the comic book DAREDEVIL. At that point, he was desperately chasing the assignment to at least be allowed to write the film. He had no illusions about being the first choice to direct. But as we sat there and he told me about how long he’d wanted to make the film, I couldn’t help but think he might just be the right choice. Passion counts for a hell of a lot in this town. People make films every day for the wrong reasons: they got packaged, or their agent says it’s “hip,” or the check was just too good, or they’re just looking for something that shoots at the right time. It’s a rare and important thing when you get someone on a film, particularly an adaptation, who genuinely loves a property with his whole heart.

We’re talking about a guy who remembers going to sit outside a comic book store as a kid, waiting for the store to open, waiting for the comics to come out of the box so he could get the first copy of DAREDEVIL off the stack. We’re talking about a guy who had elaborate storyboards drawn up of entire sequences before he ever wrote a script, who has seen this film play out in his head for his entire adult life. We’re talking about a guy who sleeps in a trailer on the set because he is drunk on the world he’s bringing to life every day right now.

When he came over to talk to us, he had the biggest smile on his face. I don’t know that I’ve ever seen him so happy. We talked for a while about what I’m up to, what Craig is up to. We didn’t really have to ask what Mark is up to. All around us, the crew was setting up for another sequence, breaking things down and moving them as we spoke. He talked about sequences that they’d already finished, about certain scenes. He gushed about his actors, with Jon Favreau drawing particular praise for his ability to really give life to Foggy Nelson, Matt Murdock’s partner in his legal practice. Someone drew Mark away from us to ask him something, and I turned and found myself face to face with someone I’ve talked to via e-mail before, but never met. Kevin Feige, who I mentioned earlier, is the Executive Vice President of Marvel Studios. Right now, he’s actively working as Executive Producer on DAREDEVIL, HULK, and X-MEN II at the same time. In fact, he laughed as we started talking and pointed out the dust that was all over his shoes and pant legs. “We were in the desert all day with HULK and Ang Lee,” he said. I was about to ask who the “we” was when Avi Arad walked up.

Harry and Avi have had a contentious relationship at times over the years, and I know we’ve been a righteous pain in the ass at various points, but Avi couldn’t have been more gracious face to face. We’ve met before in my Bruce Wayne guise, when I pitched a Marvel property to Avi and several Artisan executives a little over a year ago. Didn’t get the gig, and I didn’t think Avi would remember. He did, though, and said so right away. As all of us started talking, the thing that struck me is how much more at ease Avi seems now than three years ago. When Marvel Studios started to try and get all these properties into play, the deck was stacked decidedly against them. As we were standing on this rooftop in downtown LA, SPIDER-MAN was swinging past the $300 million mark domestically. There’s a lot to be happy about. GHOST RIDER’s move to Columbia had just been announced. Avi told me that PRIME was just set up at Universal, and that several other properties were starting to heat up as well. We talked about David Self and SUB-MARINER (“it is a whole world that you’ve never seen in a movie,” Avi promised) and Jonathan Hensleigh and THE PUNISHER, which is supposed to be a high-impact action film. We spoke about the first ILM footage of the Hulk in action, which they had just seen a few days earlier in Northern California.

Actually, we talked about HULK quite a bit, and about the reaction of crowds in theaters in LA when they realize what the teaser trailer is for. There’s actually two BIG moments. First, when they realize it’s for HULK, they cheer. Then when they realize it’s still a full year away, they groan, disappointed. Kevin talked about how happy they were to have ended up with Ang Lee on the film. After CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN DRAGON, Lee put out the word that he wanted to do a big summer film, and he was offered 40 films. “He turned down 39 of them right away,” Kevin smiled. Lee is a comic-book fan from childhood (look at THE ICE STORM for his canny use of some iconographic comic book images), and he really felt an affinity for this one particular property.

I also asked them about other particular properties that I’m dying to see, like FANTASTIC FOUR and CAPTAIN AMERICA. In both cases, Marvel is working quietly to develop the material, waiting for the right take, the right script, willing to sit on these titles until everything falls into place. They’re in no rush to screw up anything at this point. They managed to negotiate the tortured process that brought SPIDER-MAN to the screen, and they’re seeing the end results right now. They have a great case study to refer to now, an example of how patience can be a virtue and result in something really special that connects with an audience in a powerful way.

By the time Brian came back to find us, almost an hour had slipped away. The crew had relocated to another part of the roof entirely, and we were all invited to take a look at the next setup. Avi excused himself so he could take his daughter home, and the rest of us walked over for a look at Bullseye and Elektra, fully engaged in combat.

I’ve seen TIGERLAND. I’ve seen Tim Roth’s THE WAR ZONE. But for me, as for most of the filmgoing public, Colin Farrell is still a question-mark. We’ve been hearing his name for what seems like two years of hype now. HART’S WAR opened and vanished without a trace, but it hardly seemed like he was part of the campaign. That movie was sold on Bruce Willis’s name, and when it failed, it can’t be considered a failure of Farrell’s. He wasn’t even part of the equation for most people.

Now we see him front and center in the ads for MINORITY REPORT, but he’s so clean-scrubbed, so dressed down, that he almost leaves no impression so far. His role in the film is a little thankless, actually. He’s more of a device, an engine for one part of the story, than he is a fully-formed character. PHONE BOOTH is supposed to come out later this year, finally, and I’m curious, since that’s really the first thing we’ll see where it’s all him. He’s sharing the screen with Al Pacino in the currently-unscheduled CIA thriller THE FARM. And then next spring... he’s going to be unleashed as Bullseye, an assassin who can use any projectile as a deadly weapon. He’s preposterously accurate. Airplane peanuts can become lethal in his hands. So imagine what happens when Elektra throws one of her Sais at him... and he catches it.

The first impression I have of Colin when I am introduced to him is that he’s going to be a goddamn movie star when fanboys get a load of him in this film. He’s as immediately cool as Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine, if not moreso. It’s almost a shame he’s the bad guy. There’s a bullseye target carved into his forehead, raised scar tissue in the center of his bald cranium. It’s a dare for his opponents done one afternoon out of boredom, and it’s distressingly real, even up close. Farrell’s being allowed to speak in his own Irish brogue for the first time in an American picture, and it gives him a growling bad-ass edge that he’s well aware of. The most important part of his costume is a long duster coat made out of some sort of skin... could be snake, could be shark. It’s been treated so it’s almost an electric blue when you catch it in the right light. We saw dailies where he was fighting Elektra, using the coat like an extension of his body, blocking her attacks with it, taunting her. There’s an arrogance to every single move he makes in the film. He’s the very best there is, and when someone gives him trouble, he toys with them before destroying them.

In the scene we were watching, Garner was on one rooftop, and Bullseye was next to a water tower on a higher level, looking down at her. She hurls her Sai, and he catches it, spinning it, then throwing it back, turning her weapon on her. Mark did three major setups for the scene. First, the cable-cam started behind Jennifer, racing up past her and towards Bullseye at high speed. It’s dizzying, kinetic.

The second shot was from the side, a reaction as Bullseye snatches the Sai out of the air, then spinning it and throwing it back. It’s just him in the frame, and they did it a few different ways. First, Farrell started with the Sai already in his hand and out of frame. He simply snapped his hand up, like he was catching something. He whipped his arm forward, as if throwing it, but without releasing. He did another set of takes where he actually threw the Sai at the end of the take. And he did one last set where there was no Sai at all, and he simply mimed the action, giving them the option of a CG take.

Then, finally, Mark did a reverse angle with the cable-cam, following the Sai as it raced from Bullseye back to where it started, including Elektra’s reaction. More than either of the other shots, this one required specific, difficult timing by Garner. She rehearsed it several times, and also tried a number of versions of the reaction for Mark. As she practiced and cameras were being set up and moved around, I got a chance to look at the storyboards for most of the film’s rooftop scenes, all mounted on giant posterboards. It’s elaborate action stuff, but it’s also powerfully emotional stuff. The last forty pages or so of the script are one big confrontation after another, all of them earned by what’s come before. In this case, action IS character. These people are defined by how they fight, how they lash out at this world of pain that they find themselves in. It’s not so much heroic as it is a reaction, any reaction, in the face of crushing sadness. They are forced into situations where their lives are less important than specific goals. For one person, power is what drives them. For another, it’s the thrill. For two of them, revenge is all that matters, but one of them makes a deadly mistake in terms of where and who they choose to attack. It’s the interplay between these characters that drives every second of the film. It’s a pure comic book film, almost a haiku. We have seen enough superhero films now that we sort of know the form. Mark Steven Johnson’s script, with some polishes by Brian Helgeland, is lean, fast, wasting no time. This isn’t an epic, and they don’t try to pump it up to one. This is a gritty, visceral action story. The production design is great, evocative of a New York that never was, perfectly, elegantly dirty. These rooftops are a perfect stage for this particular drama. It was impossible to be sure what was built by them, and what was real.

Talking to both Garner and Farrell between takes, it’s apparent that neither one of them is approaching this as a “comic book film,” somehow acting like they’re slumming the way Halle Berry came across in her X-MEN press. Garner is serious-minded, studying various action takes on monitors between setups to get a better idea of how she looks doing certain things. I saw one scene, shot a few days earlier, where she had to do a complex fight move. As a camera looks at her from overhead, she runs right at someone who is up against a window, running up the wall, pushing off from the person to grab a Sai out of the wall above the window. In the same move, she continues around in a back flip, landing and lunging at the same time to devastating effect. It’s a jaw-dropping move, and it’s really her. I saw three separate takes, and in each one, she hit her mark perfectly.

Farrell didn’t seem nearly as work-oriented between takes. Instead, he seemed to simply have some tap that he could open up when the camera rolled, some switch he could throw that instantly made him Bullseye. All the dailies we saw involving him are both funny and truly menacing. He’s got charisma to spare in character, but there’s something loathesome about him, too. In an ad-libbed move, he hisses at a rat as he climbs onto a rooftop, scaring the animal into a sudden, panicked burst of speed. His mocking, whiny “Daaaaaaaaaaaaredevil...” as he searches for him is unnerving. As we talked, he kept lighting cigarettes, then making them disappear in deft bits of sleight of hand, which he said he learned when working with Pacino on THE FARM. Both he and Affleck are smokers, and when shooting the more physical scenes, the two of them reportedly wheeze a bit between takes, while the impossibly fit Garner rarely seems ruffled by anything they ask of her. Despite these different approaches, they seem to all be enjoying each other quite a bit. There’s a lot of play with this cast, as Affleck and Favreau work to create a solid comic rhythm, and as Affleck and Garner work to bring life to one of the most affecting love stories in all of comic continuity. This is a film that lives or dies based on chemistry, and what I’ve seen so far is promising. Michael Clarke Duncan isn’t even on-set yet. He’s the last major cast member to start work on the picture. I’m dying to see him as Wilson Fisk. After hearing about his approach to the character, I’m more interested than ever.

Michael’s going to play the character smart, as a businessman, sophisticated and very aware of how he is portrayed by the media. He considers himself a role model in the community, an example, and when someone tries to smear him by accusing him of being a criminal, he’s not above taking them to task for believing in sterotypes. “People think that a black man can only get ahead in life by being a criminal.” He is a shrewd manipulator of character, a keen observer, and is as apt to mind games as physical confrontation. I can’t wait to see how he brings the character to life. I think they’ve done a hell of a job of defining him on the page, and he seems true in spirit to the idea of a believable criminal mastermind operating in plain view. Anyone worried about them playing him as a pimp or an easy stereotype should rest assured... they’re going to twist those expectations and throw something much smarter at you.

I hope I take another couple of trips down to these sets before they wrap photography. I was recharged by this visit. I love film sets, and when something is going on that people are genuinely happy about, there’s no greater feeling. It’s like a buzz that everyone’s feeling. There’s an energy between the crew and the cast, a sort of shared sense of what this might turn out to be. Mark Steven Johnson said something that really brought this film into focus for me, when he explained why Daredevil is called The Man Without Fear. “This is a blind man who hurls himself off of buildings, trusting in his other senses and gravity to get him to Earth unscathed. He puts himself in harm’s way for his idea of justice. Bullets don’t bounce off him. But he’s not afraid. He does it anyway.” I can’t wait for those moments when Daredevil “sees” his city or when he tests gravity and himself in those dizzying drops. No matter what the end result, one thing is certain about Fox’s DAREDEVIL: this is a group of people who are pushing themselves. This is not being phoned in. They believe in what they are doing.

And now, having seen what they’re doing, so do I.

"Moriarty" out.





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  • June 4, 2002, 10:54 a.m. CST

    First?

    by Rafiennes

    Finally, comic book movies by people who love comic books. About God Damned time!!!

  • June 4, 2002, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Ahh sweet peace... no talkbackers ... breathe it in and enjoy

    by Neutral_Density

    The empty talkback board.. a temporary opinion free nation. Too bad happiness doesn't last forever.

  • June 4, 2002, 10:56 a.m. CST

    i am now the man without fear...

    by tommy5tone

    mori, you've steered me wrong in the past ('the story of us'? damn!) but you've been right more often than not. that's some fucking good reportage there, man, and it makes me amped to see what johnson does with 'daredevil'. passion goes a long way, you're right - we saw it with 'LOTR', we saw it with 'spider-man' and, god willing, we'll see it with this. more power to the folks at marvel for ensuring these characters reach the screen successfully, and more power to your good self, old man. with all due respect to harry, when you gonna kick his ass to the curb and set up your own site?

  • June 4, 2002, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Irish Bullseye?

    by Rain_Dog

    Holy fucking shit YEAH! I love it. Not to mention the scar-art bullseye on the forehead. I can't even express the excitement I feel for this movie now (of course, I'm three beers and five glasses of red wine gone, so maybe I'll feel different in the morning). I just hope Foggy wears a bow tie; the 12-year-old fanboy in me couldn't cope if he didn't. Remember when Marvel Boy killed his dad and Foggie represented him? That was some good shit when I was a young fella. The Kingpin? If Mori's impressions of the character are correct, all my fears are dispelled. What an utterly brillaint and above all faithful adaptation of the character. Just the way the Wilson Fisk from the comics would act if he happened to be black; manipulative, media savvie, and conscious of the most sure-fire ways to manipulate the public.

  • June 4, 2002, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Very Promising

    by bootspark

    This film looks very promising-the costumes and sets are amazing so far. I cant wait to see this film.

  • June 4, 2002, 11:11 a.m. CST

    So how does one join this "ass buffing" union?

    by EL Duderino

  • June 4, 2002, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Let me just quietly mention...

    by PriestYoungblood

    HOLY FUCKING CRAP. If this ends up as good as Mori makes it sound, then I will be a happy Priest. Bless you MArvel comics. And now for the inevitable endless talkback of: "AFFLECK SUCKS", "ELEKTRA SHOULD BE GREEK", and the new fave, "HER COSTUME SUCKS". Fanboys. . . start your whiny bitch-ass engines. Anyway, this preliminary report kicks ass, great reporting, as usual Doctor.

  • June 4, 2002, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Bullseye's origin

    by Glynyfaron

    Hmm, a deadly assasin with an Irish accent. Bet Gerry Adams is going to love that. This could set the political process back decades.

  • June 4, 2002, 11:21 a.m. CST

    An ode to the fallout of overreacting

    by SweetMonkeyCreek

    I admit, I was distressed when I first saw the Elektra costume and the reports of Bullseye in a Matrix-esque trench ocat, but now I feel that all of my fears need to be put at the wayside. This film may turn out to be the labor of love all of us fans are hoping for. A fan is directing it and he clearly loves the source material, so there can't be any "disrespect" for the costumes. He just wants to breath life into it. So let's just all calm down and try to wait as patiently as possible for next year. Kepp them movies coming Marvel.

  • June 4, 2002, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Great report Mori!!

    by Bad Guy

    They've got my interest, that's for sure! Daredevil's costume looks great. I wish Garner's costume was more Elektra-like, even just adding the bandanna would've helped, but oh well, I can deal with it. She looks hot and I guess the outfit is a little more realistic. The sequence between Elektra and Bullseye sounds very true to the comics and that's the stuff that we fanboys are ultimately interested in anyway. That the characters are somewhat true to their comic book counterparts. Duncan is going to kick ass as Kingpin, 'nuff said.

  • June 4, 2002, 11:22 a.m. CST

    BONESAW IS READY!!!

    by BillBrasky

    I can't wait for this! I was initially upset about the choice for Kingpin, but this article eased the tension a bit. I'm interested in seeing the Bullseye costume.

  • June 4, 2002, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Elektra looks like Lita from WWF/E only more mannish

    by cactusmaac

    I haven't seen Alias so Ii don't know what this Garner chick is like, but she sure looks like lika WWF diva rip-off only with extra testosterone. Monica Belluci should have got this role. Firstly she's Meditteranean, secondly she is a lot hotter than Garner.

  • June 4, 2002, 11:37 a.m. CST

    :P

    by Tarl_Cabot

    Fuck, This better be good! You are the man Moriarty!

  • June 4, 2002, 11:43 a.m. CST

    More psyched for this than Spidey!!!

    by jordanabigail

    WOW - Thanks for the great story. I can't imagine DD getting anything but an R rating, and it sounds like a non-stop balls to the wall movie - realistic, gritty, intense, with great performances all around. Love that Jennifer Garner!!!!

  • June 4, 2002, 11:44 a.m. CST

    We see a f*cked up comic book adaption in every movie theatre,

    by IAmLegolas

    in every home theatre, and we tolerate it. We tolerate it because it's common, it's trival. We tolerate it morning, noon, and night. Well, not anymore. Movies like Spider-Man and LOTR are setting the example. And what they've done will be puzzled over, and studied, and followed... forever.

  • June 4, 2002, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Very Cool

    by Raven Jessamy

    And don't worry cactusmaac, the picture of Garner-as-Elektra was merely a bad angle. Jennifer Garner is, frankly, hot and and very feminine.

  • June 4, 2002, 11:56 a.m. CST

    So the Kingpin in this...

    by Kid Z

    ... is sort of an even nastier version of Suge Knight. Should be kinda cool, actually

  • June 4, 2002, 11:59 a.m. CST

    The Elektra "Costume"...

    by Kid Z

    ... Okay, let the bitchin' commence! What the f***?!!? Couldn't they at least have included the bandana? Christ! She looks like Shakira in that get-up!

  • June 4, 2002, 12:01 p.m. CST

    DAREDEVIL...batman?

    by Batman_9

    this movie is gonna rock. i know many are upset that affleck is doing this...but come on...the guys a geek. in real life he's a comic book nerd. he's perfect. my only question is why o why won't Warner Bros. get a Batman movie going now! get a director and a writer who care about the material...kevin smith has expressed his desire as well as david goyter...come on WB! make batman the way is meant to be...with a costume he can move around in...swinging through gotham with his cable gun...perched high on a gargoyle with his cape blowing in every direction...give us a joker that is young...athletic...brilliant and totally insane all at once...and for the love of bruce wayne don't kill him off! sorry...thats my rant. great time for comic book fans...if only DC would get in on the action.

  • June 4, 2002, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Garner is one of the most handsome women...

    by Declan_Swartz

    I do not mean to say she has a butter face since most men would want that kind of symmetry. Maybe it is because I am used to American women with softer features in the face and body. Europe can keep the broad shoulder and square jaw women!

  • June 4, 2002, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Daredevil is gonna ROCK

    by The Daredevil

    Hey Mori, thanks for the report! As a huge fan of ol Hornhead, I'm very excited about this big-screen adaptation of my favorite comic character. I like the Daredevil costume, and I think I'll get used to Elektra's new look (although MSJ should at least try to make her look like her comic book counterpart). But the movie looks very promising, and what's awesome is the passion and dedication of the cast & crew who are bringing the movie to life. Can't wait until next year to finally see Daredevil on the big screen.

  • June 4, 2002, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Damn, Damn good reporting..

    by Tonya_Harding

    I admit I have never been a fan of Daredevil, but reading this report makes me very psyched to see what Marvel has in store... Also, I must say, damn good reporting from Mori.. best writer on this site by far and has this superbitch in stitches for DD -- Good job Mori..

  • June 4, 2002, 12:19 p.m. CST

    bullseye's costume

    by rev_skarekroe

    What a very poetic way of saying "black leather trenchcoat". sk

  • June 4, 2002, 12:35 p.m. CST

    No offense guys, but just because you talk a movie up, doesn&#39

    by Blue Devil

    No matter what Mori says about Elektra's costume- it's retarded. Everyone thought the Goblin's costume sucked at first glance and guess what- it did! I don't mean to be a sore spot about all this, I'm just tired of these movies sucking.

  • June 4, 2002, 12:40 p.m. CST

    This will be the lamest of the so far released Marvel films

    by Flint420

    Why you ask? in a word; Affleck. Totally the WRONG choice for this role. Bottom line is Ben is not a good actor and NOWHERE close to being an action star. He brings no depth to any role he has played to date. Think about it. Instead of becoming the characters he's portraying, the characters becomes Ben. See Ben playing Ben as an ex-con. See Ben playing Ben as a WWII fighter pilot. See Ben playing Ben as a hot-shot lawyer. This Harrison Ford wannabe bitch should stick to writing scripts instead of slaughtering them with uninspired performances.

  • June 4, 2002, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Where's the sense of outrage from you guys? They're rui

    by ARCTURUS

    Really, this latest set report does NOTHING to instill confidence in me that this DD film will be anything but a disaster. Unlike Spider-Man, Daredevil is not a household name. He is unfamiliar to many people in the mainstream. He will become a joke in their eyes as a result of this serious cinematic bungling, and it's a crying shame. Please, join me in a boycott of this movie, true comic book fans everywhere.

  • June 4, 2002, 12:51 p.m. CST

    You're damn right you made a mistake not watching ALIAS!!!

    by Batutta

    It was god's cruel joke that he put both of my favorite shows on at the same time this year, ALIAS and SFU...And I am going to kidnap one of the assbuffing crew, make a latex mask of his face and take over his job if it's the last thing I ever do.

  • June 4, 2002, 12:57 p.m. CST

    If Spandex is too "light" for the costumes.....

    by Otter

    ..then why the HELL are they LEATHER? Leather is very unforgiving as far as movement, and as well all know, DD, Elektra, and Bullseye are ALL about MOVEMENT. This is just the "Matrix" mentality being used for the sake of that "trendy" look. I have no problem with the costumes not being necessarily by the book, but make something that these characters are known for. DD's a hero, Elektra's a ninja, and Bullseye's a psycho assassin. Nuff Said.

  • June 4, 2002, 12:57 p.m. CST

    To the boycotters

    by SweetMonkeyCreek

    Anyone, in their right mind, that wuold call themselves a comic book fan and then decide to boycott this movie might as well burn their collections. We're at a very crucial spot in comic book movie history. Spider-Man blew everyone away and if we don't keep it up we'll never get to see adaptations of the Fantansic Four a new Captain America, even new Batman and Superman movies (so long as they publicly stone McG). SO what if costumes are different, some of the news is good. It's going to be dark and fast paced, Daredevil is going to get his ass whupped by the bad guys, they're trying to make it "real". I don't think the non-comic reading public needs to see DD's red pajamas or some fat white guy as the Kingpin. We just need a good story to be told in the name of comic books. Love it or hate it go see it! Right now I'm scared to death about the Hulk script but I'll still be there opening day to show my support. See it, then bitch.

  • June 4, 2002, 1:06 p.m. CST

    grmbl.....

    by CycLoner

    imho, elektra's costume would be very translatable to movie, i just hate it when they go all the way around and change it entirely. Aw hell, the movie's fucked anyway since ben affleck got signed.

  • I don't know how some of you fanboys and geeks can't fall in love with Jennifer Garner as Elektra?!? This costume has totally exceeded my expectations. I think Garner is going to be an excellent Elektra.

  • June 4, 2002, 1:15 p.m. CST

    ARCTURUS

    by PriestYoungblood

    Stop whining you big fuckng baby. Boycott this? BOYCOTT?? IT'S THE DAREDEVIL MOVIE, NOT APARTHEID YOU FUCKING HALFWIT. If you believe, even for a 10th of a second, that you are not going to see this movie when it comes out, within the first week I'll bet, then you are seriously lying to yourself. Because no matter how much you bitch and moan about costumes and actors and sets and cgi, the fact is this is the Daredevil movie, it is the ONLY one, there will never be another one, and you KNOW your geeky ass will be there to see it. So don't waste our time with pathetic requests to boycott it. It's a movie, not fucking Reebock using child labor in Indonesia. Jesus I swear, you fucking children. Boycotts... *chuckle*

  • June 4, 2002, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Blue Devil

    by LeeScoresby

    That's funny...I'm tired of having to hear trolls bitch about films just to kill someone else's joy.

  • June 4, 2002, 1:21 p.m. CST

    One word for Jennifer Garner: SUPERFUCKINGSTAR!

    by MentallyMariah

    she rocks period, Move over Julia Roberts, there is going to be a new girl in town, someone fiercer and much more real! I am a big fan of Alias and Jennifer is the sole reason why the show rocks so hard! I can't wait to see her in Daredevil!

  • June 4, 2002, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Now get on the X-Men 2 set

    by I Speak Jive

    Good read, Moriarty. Now get your ass to the X-Men 2 set and tell us if they are managing to screw that up or not. Just look out for Halle when crossing the street.

  • June 4, 2002, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Rating

    by KneelBeforeZod

    What is this movie going to be rated??

  • June 4, 2002, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Excellent Report, Moriarty!

    by Buzz Maverik

    This was a pleasure to read, as usual!

  • June 4, 2002, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Shut up!

    by ehunt

    The unending stream of negative talkback is so annoying! Blue Devil! If you're so tired of these movies sucking stop going to see them and put yourself out of our misery with your inane bull$#!% complaints about movies you haven't even seen yet! Those of you who don't like the costumes should put on the homemade costumes you have(and you know you do) and throw yourselves out of the nearest available high rise window 'cause none of us who want to see this movie give a $#!% about your simpleton comments! Any one who dares say that Jen Garner is not attractive is either a closeted homosexual or is to busy enjoying the pleasures of thier right or left hands to admit that they like girls! Any of you 35 year old virgins(or soon to be 35 year old virgins, you know who you are) know that if Jen G said you had to eat a herpes sore off the anus of a homeless old woman in order to sleep with her you'd be saying "Just point out the old woman of your choice oh beautiful Miss Garner and I will begin sucking at light speed, because as you know I have sucked in one way or another my whole life.". The only recourse you losers have left to you after being rejected by every female of every age and every species, is to try and knock down a HOT woman that none of you will ever have a shot at even in your dreams! So in closing SHUT THE F*** UP and pray that if your lucky the next transvestite anal whore you sad pathetic losers pay to sleep with you is half as attractive as Jen Garner!

  • June 4, 2002, 1:40 p.m. CST

    only eleven months of waiting until X2

    by beauparleur

  • June 4, 2002, 1:46 p.m. CST

    The Kingpin

    by DarkZero

    I'm surprised that more people are complaining about Ben Affleck, Jennifer Garner, and Elektra's costume than Michael Clarke Duncan being cast for the Kingpin. I can see Ben Affleck pulling something good off as Daredevil, Jennifer Garner seems to fit Elektra in my mind, and the costume doesn't seem that bad. However, the casting for the Kingpin is just horrible. I don't mind the fact that he's black, even though it doesn't really fit with the '60s/'70s idea of "The Man" that the Kingpin was supposed to embody. However, I do have a problem with the fact that Michael Clarke Duncan is a huge, muscular guy. Anyone that read the Daredevil or Spider-Man comics as a kid or saw any of the animated incarnations of this end of the Marvel Universe when they were young fondly remembers the feeling of absolute shock that they had when the big, white fat guy, the embodiment of the intelligent, but physically pathetic villainous mastermind, got up out of his chair and punched the hero straight across the room, through a column or two, and into a wall. Unfortunately, when Kingpin is introduced to average movie-going public when Daredevil is released, that shock won't be there. Michael Clarke Duncan has played the huge, muscular guy that beat the crap out of anyone with a single punch in every movie he's been in. Unless they're putting him in a fat suit and seriously toning down his muscles with costuming tricks, the Kingpin getting up and beating the crap out of Daredevil will just be par for the course, like Arnold Schwarzenegger shooting up a room full of faceless bad guys or Jet Li kicking someone in the head. It might still look cool, but there won't be any shock or surprise there.

  • June 4, 2002, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Makes Sense, But....

    by FanHalen

    Affleck will still ruin this flick!

  • June 4, 2002, 1:49 p.m. CST

    I usually agree with you mori, but this time...

    by Iroquois_Pliskin

    I cant, I just... dont see it. I can live with Affleck as Murdock, he's an ok actor, he's in no way BAD, so I can live with it. The costume(DD) I can live with also, even though its SHINY red leather(shiny, METALLIC red leather, which is completely wrong for the character), its ok. Collin Farrell as Bullsee seems to be a great casting choice, and if the costume is every bit as cool as yu say it is, i'll love it(B-Eye's costume would't have translated well into films ayways). The only thing that bugs me is GARNER and that costume. No ofense to Ms. Garner, but she was the WRONG choice for this, look at past incarnations of elektra; Garner's too skinny and, her hair is wrong... and have just doesn't look all that convincing. The costume also in my eyes is VERY wrong, how can they rin such a costume? I mean, compared to the likes of Daredevil and Bullseye, that thing should be a breeze to re-design for he film witout screwing up. Apparently not. They screwed up Elektra, they completelly screwed her up. Garner is one hell of an actress and a beautiful woman, but... she doesn't fit the bill. Oh well, maybe if Kingpin ends up like you said... maybe that'll make up for it.

  • June 4, 2002, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Kingpin Confusion

    by SweetMonkeyCreek

    To those that have a problem with Michael Clark Duncan as the Kingpin, DarkZero I'm looking at you, it looks like you need to go over your Daredevil history. It has been stated time and again that the Kingpin is NOT fat but almost pure muscle. Duncan is the perfect choice because he's larger than life. The Kingpin is a force to be reckoned with both phsyically and as crime lord.

  • June 4, 2002, 1:52 p.m. CST

    only eleven months of waiting until X2

    by beauparleur

    I thought that Jennifer Garner would look ridiculous wearing the Elektra costume. Its seems that we'll never know, since she's NOT wearing it in this film! I told you people that Daredevil would blow. The faintest glimmer of hope I had left that this would somehow turn out to be a pretty good film has just vanished into thin air. Who knows, perhaps seeing Ben Affleck pretending to be blind will be hilarious.

  • June 4, 2002, 2:30 p.m. CST

    leather

    by Bheithir at Work

    No black leather for Elektra, eh? What about this pic from the official marvel site? http://www.marvel.com/comics/bios/actionshots/xtras/action_elektra.jpg

  • June 4, 2002, 2:31 p.m. CST

    I'm interested

    by joshuaonenine

    Even though I'm still a devoted batman fan, this set visit has increased my interest in not only seeing the movie but reading the comic!

  • June 4, 2002, 2:36 p.m. CST

    blah blah blah blah blah

    by Insane Tiki

    "Hi! I went to the Daredevil set, where I saw a lady in leather pants and everyone there told me their movie was going to be good so I'll believe them! I can't wait until they invite me back to butter me up even more, thus securing the internet fanbase's confidence in the film!! Details? Who needs details? They were nice people and they are going to make a good movie, they told me so! And that girl was wearing leather pants! That covered her ass!! Until next time!"

  • June 4, 2002, 3:11 p.m. CST

    CASTING

    by hybrid+heory

    i know i haven't seen the movie yet and all, but these are just my 2 cents if i were in charge of casting DAREDEVIL. well, i think matt damon would've been a better choice. he's always been the cooler guy in all the 'ben & matt' movies. ben is so overrated sometimes, while matt is severly underated. damon IS matt murdock like tobey IS peter parker. oh, and i agree with that guy who said monica boccelli would have made a better elektra, but just based on looks. i don't know about both girls' acting or fighting skills, but damn that boccelli chick would make one hot elektra. anyway, i still have faith in this movie, and i think bullseye and kingpin will rock. can't wait to see DD, Hulk, and X-Men next year! peace.

  • June 4, 2002, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Whine, whine, whine

    by il diabolo

    Okay, first, why is everyone so concerned w/ costumes? Yeah, they are important, but unless they are totally campy (spandex) they don't make or break a movie. The story and acting does. Who cares that it is black leather? And if one watches the Matrix, not everything was leather, but it was almost all black clothes, so stop blaming that. The fact is, our society views leather, to some extent as gruff and outside regular society. Not so much now as in the past, but it is still there. Also, it comes off as MUCH tougher. How many bikers (and I mean motorcycles, not bicycles) wear spandex? Also, my first choice was Monica Bellucci for Electra also, and Marvel tried to get her, but she wasn't available cuz she is making some movie with Bruce Willis that conflicted. So there's that. Also, losers that say this, quit saying a movie is gonna suck when you know nothing. If you directed it, people would say the same thing. Get an opinion and quit being a robot. Enjoy or hate a movie for what it is, not for what it's not...and move on.

  • June 4, 2002, 3:59 p.m. CST

    LeeScoresby

    by Blue Devil

    So I'm a troll, huh? Well, I've been called worse. Again, I don't mean to bring you down, but life sucks. It sucks that people you love have to die, that things don't work out the way we want, and that characters we love are butchered by Hollywood. Am I bitching? YES! Why? Because I'm hoping at some level, somewhere out there, someone (in authority) might be paying attention. And that my comments might effect change (ie. learn from the Green Goblin mistake!). I never had a problem with changing the X-Men costumes, my only problem with the Batman outfit was that he couldn't move his neck. I know things have to change for film, but Elektra in a biker-babe outfit? Come on! Also, if you don't want me bringing you down- DON'T READ MY POST! It's very clear from my heading where I'm coming from.

  • June 4, 2002, 4:42 p.m. CST

    i speak jive and priestyoungblood

    by narky

    rotflmao! this talk back is so ridiculously TYPICAL, i love it. lol this movie's gonna be good. i can tell. Jennifer Garner as ELektra is practically orgasmic. I admit that they at least could've given her a bandana though, but its nothing to whine over!

  • June 4, 2002, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Because Vengeance Demands You Show A Shiny Ass

    by Son Of Batboy

    Hey, when you're on a mission of furious retribution you really should stop and consider your fashion alternatives. Make sure you show some midriff when there's any chance of hand to hand combat. Though knives may hurt, looking your worst hurts more. From the writer of Grumpy Old Men, Grumpier Old Men, Jack Frost, Big Bully, and the writer/director of Simon Birch comes a ground breaking motion picture. They act like they're filming Paradise Lost. It's a friggin' comic book! And one only a fraction of the public has even heard of.

  • June 4, 2002, 5:01 p.m. CST

    EXCELLENT REPORT!!!

    by Johnny Storm

    Great work, Moriarty. You described your set visit so that I felt like I was really there. It's a beautiful thing when someone passionate gets to make their dream on such a grand scale. There's too much shit these days that gets passed off as entertainmentt (see Bad Company--or better yet don't). I'll be first in line to see this movie. I just wish it was coming out this summer.

  • June 4, 2002, 5:07 p.m. CST

    one more time...

    by KneelBeforeZod

    does anyone know the rating for this film? i hope they are aiming for an "R" release.

  • June 4, 2002, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Maybe we should put Harry face to face with Freddie Prinze Jr an

    by St.Buggering

    Maybe he'd learn to show a fraction of the class Moriarty is showing here. It's easy to launch extreme, childish attacks on someone who's an abstract concept, who you think you'll never meet; thus the immature hostility displayed in many talkbacks. It's a different story when they become a real person standing in front of you. I salute Moriarty for showing the ability to be a grown-up. What was this about? Oh, Daredevil. I was hopeful before, but this little on-set portrait has really got me going. Passion for the project really is the most important element. The costumes? Who gives a crap? Give me a good story with good acting, well-directed, and they can dress Garner in Daisy Dukes and a tube top for all I care.

  • June 4, 2002, 5:21 p.m. CST

    "the Elektra costume is not at all functional, just plain hot"

    by Nonkel Bob

    The rest is just marketing bullshit and spin doctoring. You see that kind of babe in leather outfit 24/7 on MTV in every videoclip. What's the point of making it a superhero movie. I see girls lining up for clubs wearing cooler outfits ...

  • June 4, 2002, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Bullseye question

    by axelfoley

    So I take it Bullseye's not going to have that costume he wears with the white outlines and target? It sounds like they're going to totally makeover this character's wardrobe too. I still think the Elektra change was bullshit. There is nothing wrong with her costume in the comics, hell that COULD actually fly in real life. I also think MCD is gonna rock the fucking casbah as Kingpin. He seems motivated and interested in the role. From what I read he's always wanted to play a character like this. I think he'll deliver. One a final note, I agree that Matt Damon would have made a good Daredevil. IMHO, he's the much better actor between him and Affleck. He was rumored for the role too, I just don't get it.

  • June 4, 2002, 6:23 p.m. CST

    You guys are just pissed that she's wearing pants

    by PercussionBomb

    Otherwise, the bandana should kinda be there, but all the long flowing ribbons and stuff isn't necessary, really. And she'll be awesome. I'd be more pissed if there were no sais. Granted, I would get ENDLESS entertainment from watching Jennifer Garner wearing the costume from the comics, especially if she's doing a lot of ninja-like kicks and flips from off walls. Of course, the resulting CGI-placed-shadow work would raise the film's budget another couple million, so alas... I guess we'll just have to learn to love the hot pants!

  • June 4, 2002, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Bullseye Costume

    by Johnny Storm

    I would love to see this. I love that they're sticking so true to the DD costume in the movie, but the Bullseye costume always was pretty lame in the comic. I hope they come up with something as cool as DD. That scarred bullseye on his forehead sounds pretty badass too. I like how that sounds. Has anybody seen it or has it been posted anywhere yet?

  • June 4, 2002, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Alas Poor Head-Scarf.

    by Rogman

    Elektra could do groovy tricks with that head-scarf...like snap necks. And it was kind of a signature item, after the sais. That said, I like what I hear about this film. Fights on rooftops! Twirling sais! Martial arts madness! Vertigo inducing dives from tall buildings! It sounds true to the spirit of Miller's Daredevil, even if some of the details have (inevitably) been altered. How come Frank Miller's name hasn't been mentioned more? FRANK MILLER! FRANK MILLER! FRANK MILLER!

  • June 4, 2002, 7:18 p.m. CST

    Never really liked Daredevil

    by moose420

    This is just one of those things that you just don't like for no reason. The comic character of "Daredevil" was never appleing for me but I pray that the movie will change my mind. Heres Hoping

  • June 4, 2002, 7:23 p.m. CST

    nice report, but it made me think of something.

    by Ribbons

    The passion you say Mark Steven Johnson has for this property makes me worry about future Marvel films. I mean, an assembled product is not necessarily a bad product, but even Bryan Singer was intrigued by the concept of the X-Men. How many Sam Raimi's are out there in Hollywood who when approached would say, "Oh, yeah! Ever since I was a kid I've been dying to do a 'Werewolf By Night' movie!' or 'Prime?' I loved that book!'" I mean, Blade was a rather obscure character, but I can see where even he can hold someone's interest. I think it would be really cool if all of these films can be done right, but how many directors are going to have a "vision" for Deathlok?

  • June 4, 2002, 7:28 p.m. CST

    I want my Bullseye action figure!!!

    by Gambit8370

    OK, first off need to say I'm the original comic book geek, big time movie buff, and I successfully moved out of my parents basement and got hitched years ago. So since that's out of the way... Blade planted the C4 on the door lock. X-Men ran the fuse. Spider-Man blew the friggin door wide open!!! Marvel movies no longer suck (ref: Dr. Strange, Fantastic Four, Punisher, and Captain America). DC who? Look, it's like this: they had a golden opportunity with the whole "Death Of Superman" thing. Sorry folks, Kevin Smith was right. Nothing short of that will unbury them from the compost pile of doggie doodoo that Joel Shuelmaker left them under. Well either that or Kingdom Come with Alex Ross art direction. Moriarity, your reviews are right friggin on. I've learned to trust your judgement completely. Your description of the Electra-Bullseye scene sounds friggin' spectacular! DD will continue the Marvel Movie Onslaught! Oh and I gotta throw this in (sorry, I know it's a DD talkback, but...) Hey Cameron! Yeah you, James Friggin' Cameron! Listen up! Thank you for not making a Spider-Man movie and all the BS litigation you tied it up in all those years. All those years of anticipation made that victory all the more sweeter. Go Raimi!

  • June 4, 2002, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Never really liked Daredevil

    by moose420

    Daredevil is sumthing that just never liked, didn't intrest me in comics and neither is the movie. I hope this movie will change my opion on daredevilbut i'll have to see. I still think theirs other comic-books that should be made into films more then Daredevil like Hawkeye and Ironman,Fantastic 4 and Many spin-offs of X-men characters. Personally i think they should replace Nightcrawler with ArchAngel and give Nightcrawler his own film. Still i hope that Dardevil movie will change my mind about daredevil.

  • June 4, 2002, 8:38 p.m. CST

    This is why we're not taken seriously.

    by KenKRK

    When fans go ballistic like this over a film that isn't even primarily for them anyone, it gives most of us a bad name as comic fans. The only reason we make comic book movies into film is to reach an audience that would otherwise not read the comics. Ultimately, pleasing the fans is secondary, but still important. If it were a matter of just pleasing and targeting fans of the comics, very little would be changed, but Your returns wouldn't be nearly as successful. Liberties have to be taken to ensure that the character reaches a wider audience. I personally think Affleck is a great actor, and it's simply a matter of opinion. Furthermore, he has a genuine appreciation for the character. He's not like most actors who have little to no experience of the character before playing them. As for Garner as Elektra, think about; whether you'd like to believe it or not, Daredevil isn't a Spider-Man or Superman caliber of superhero, that's well-known around the world by non-fans. To that effect, Elektra is even less recognizable. The casting of Garner has to do with the fact that not only is she a great actress, but the character she plays on Alias requires her to be in exceptional physical shape, and able to adapt, she's been Russian, British, Italian, French, even Middle Eastern! Yeah, the audience is in on it, but that doesn't mean she slacks off in believability. Greek shouldn't be that much of a stretch. She's become very recognizable, and more than Affleck, Garner's name is gonna be what draws people to the movie. It won't matter to most of those people what Elektra looks like, because they're probably not familiar with her. By the time the movie comes out, Elektra's costume in the comics will have changed to fit that look of the film.Could that have made it closer to the current comic version, sure, but are we going to call for the beheadings of the filmmakers for changing the costume, fuck no! Look at the Daredevil costume. Aside from the material change, it's immediately recognizable as Daredevil. Be lucky someone's actually making this movie, and stop bitching. Whether or not it's going to be good or bad, NONE of us can say. Having reservations is understandable, but it's a bit extreme to look at a few still photos and say, 'This movie is going to suck!' en mass. And on a side note, Blade II only lifted what it had already established action-wise in the first Blade, that predated the Matrix by a whole year(its February '98 release was postponed to August of that year), let's not envoke the Matrix like it was all THAT groundbreaking. At least Blade starred an accomplished actor WITH martial arts training, two decades worth no less.

  • June 4, 2002, 8:54 p.m. CST

    X-MEN costume crap

    by TomVee

    Oh boy! More black leather! And another famous comic book costume bites the dust.

  • June 4, 2002, 9:05 p.m. CST

    TomVee: Elektra's is not a famous comic book costume

    by St.Buggering

    I would venture to say that the vast majority of human beings have never heard of Elektra. In addition, she's not a superhero, so the costume really is pretty inconsequential. Her look is not her trademark. How she handles action is, and it sounds like Garner's got that down. I really don't understand everybody's anxiety about the specifics of the costume worn by a ninja-trained assassin. Next you'll be bitching about J. Jonah Jameson's tie.

  • June 4, 2002, 9:21 p.m. CST

    DD on the MM

    by TomVee

    And definitely MM should have been cast as DD.

  • June 4, 2002, 9:23 p.m. CST

    "Reality" based costuming.

    by Aquafresh

    O.K., so Elektra is a nightclubbin' ninja chick, l'll buy that, Bullseye is a leather trenchcoat wearing, Matrix lovin' assasin, I'll buy that(besides, the comic's costume was dumb) so what does that make DAREDEVIL? A guy who has just come out of a Halloween party at a gay bar, thats what. & I'll buy that too, but as long as we're talking "reality", lets be honest as to where the chips lie.

  • June 4, 2002, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Again with X-men costumes!

    by KenKRK

    To quote Cyclops, 'What would you prefer, yellow spandex?'. You honestly wanted to see Cyclops wearing yellow pirate boots and underwear over his pants? You wanted to see Wolverine in that bright yellow costume. Could you have really taken him seriously on film in that costume? I can't understand some of you people, really! As for why Daredevil's costume is the only close rendition is because he's the MAIN CHARACTER. And I'm tired of the gay jokes, because they're virtually baseless and stereotypical. If leather is so closely regarded as being homosexual, every motocross racer and motorcycle rider in general is a homosexual? Every gay person I've ever met, I've never seen wearing leather, and most of them were overtyly effeminate. It's a guy in an all red suit. No material is going to change that. Why doesn't he look gay in the comics?

  • June 4, 2002, 10:01 p.m. CST

    passion

    by LordQuino

    Did anyone read Affleck's introduction to the Kevin Smith Daredevil Visionaries trade paperback? After reading that, I have faith in Affleck. He knows the character, loves the character, he's a fanboy living out the character of his dreams. Who cares what the costume looks like, there better be passion between Elektra and Daredevil. Matt's gotta love her. And well, look ar her! who couldn't love her. I'm not gonna get too excited and then have my hopes destroyed, but I believe these people making this movie care about it. If I can't be making it, then I'm glad to see it in the arms of someone with as much burning passion for it as I have.

  • June 4, 2002, 10:37 p.m. CST

    KenKRK is Right. . .Unfortunately

    by KenKRK

    I woulndn't go as far as to say that they don't care about being faithful to the comics. Spider-Man is a perfect example of a comic movie that set out to please as many fans and non-fans as possible and clearly succeeded, if the 360 million dollars in less than a month is any indication. X-men, while disregarding most of the cotumes of the comics, was faithful in characters and themes. My whole point was that certain liberties are taken to reach a broader audience, not to say that the filmmakers don't care about being faithful to the comics.

  • Affleck was da bomb in Phantoms, yo.

  • June 4, 2002, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Comic book adaptations

    by Synchronized

    The problem with adapting comic books into films is you only get one chance to get it right. Movies aren't like comics. A new one doesn't come out every month. If the movie is bad, the fans have to live with it. If a comic book is bad, it could get better next month. I'd prefer it if comic books aren't adapted into movies. They're different mediums for a reason. But if a film of a comic must be made, it should present the source material in the best light possible. There's no excuse for a multi-million dollar endeavor based on a character with about 35 years of history to "suck." Especially if part of that history was created by Frank Miller at his peak. I'm not saying Daredevil is going to suck, but nothing I've seen so far offers me any hope. I don't care about effects, costumes, or actors. As long as the story is good, they could put on a slide show of stick figures for all I care. But so far the story sounds like David Mack's "Parts of a Hole" (In short: A deaf assassin is told by Kingpin that Daredevil killed her father; at the same time she's in love with Daredevil's alter ego). And for kicks they threw in the entire cast from Miller's run and Elektra's confrontation with Bullseye. The armchair director / screenwriter in me would have just taken Miller's "The Man Without Fear" retelling of Daredevil's origin (In my opinion, one of the greatest Daredevil stories ever told). But I guess that wouldn't be as marketable since he isn't in the costume at all throughout the whole story and there are no big fight scenes with "major" rogues. If it does suck in the end, we still have Daredevil's appearance in "Trial of the Incredible Hulk." John Rhys-Davies as Kingpin, Rex Smith as Daredevil, and Bill Bixby as the Hulk. A fucking classic.

  • June 4, 2002, 11:32 p.m. CST

    It's now official -- Moriarity rules this site

    by Johnny Ahab

    GREAT reporting there, Drew. I've been nervous about this film for a long while, but this is the first time I've felt jazzed about what this movie could be. Look forward to more. And Premiere or a major newspaper should snap you up as lead Hollywood reporter. Excellent work, man. Keep it up.

  • June 4, 2002, 11:48 p.m. CST

    The Punisher film must be uber-badass.

    by TheMatarife

    Please put in lots of huge ass guns, rocket launchers, and kick ass bikes and vans. I wanna see some asskicking from everyones favorite dark hero, Frank Castle.

  • June 4, 2002, 11:53 p.m. CST

    Sweet Jesus

    by MisRosemaryCross

    Everytime i hear anything about this movie I almost piss my pants with excitement. I can't wait to see Minority Report just in hopes we get to see the teaser! Plus Collin Farrel is fabulous. Bitch and moan all you want, but this movie is going to kick ass no matter what. And Ben Affleck will ROCK OUR WORLD. Red hair rules. I know this post was silly and shallow, but Daredevil makes me giddy!

  • June 5, 2002, 3:49 a.m. CST

    Who is this dashing BRIAN character??

    by mxdmeta4

    Mark Steven Johnson has Keifer Sutherland as an assistant. How cool is that. When are you going to post a pic of this bleary-eyed maniac? We need an exclusive with this insider!

  • June 5, 2002, 5:07 a.m. CST

    "Just what the doctor ordered", Moriarty

    by C2FThom

    I'm the guy in charge of most DD scoops over at Comics2Film, and I just wanted to say... I'm recommending everyone to read your set report, Moriarty. Just when I was getting a bit worried about the film myself, I read your article... and now from second-hand description alone I'm about ready to label this film the best comic adaptation to date. Thanks!

  • June 5, 2002, 5:24 a.m. CST

    Elektra: we can do without the cleavage...

    by Spab

    I mean for God's sake. All that stuff about how she's in mourning, she's out for revenge. So put those things away woman!

  • June 5, 2002, 9:18 a.m. CST

    So.

    by JudgeDredd

    Just looking at the Subject lines for this I can see an endless stream of losers who tihnk they're clever, and bitches, and whiners. So allow to me simply say thank you, M, for projecting your excitement across the internet. Any big-budget comic adaptation gets my attention, especially Marvel, since their track record in the past has been less than exemplary (but I still pull out the Fantastic four bootleg on occasion to give a laugh to a friend). But now I'm really psyched for DD. Thanks again for the unabashed enthusiasm, and all you whiners can cram it sideways.

  • June 5, 2002, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Don't go all revisionist on us, Mori, when it comes to OWEN

    by Roguewriter

    I routinely recommend the book to friends and fellow bibliophiles as one of the top five novels of the last century; it's an unparalleled masterwork from a writer who probably owns about four spots on the Best Novels of All Time list. And that godawful movie version was just the worst sort of hackneyed abortion. I'm sure the sight of Jennifer Garner getting her ass buffed would cause anyone to do an about-face on just about any subject in question... but damn, man, you had every right to slaughter that dreadful movie adaptation. Don't backtrack just because you dig the guy who made it -- sounds like he was man enough to take the blows, and you guys hit it off despite. You don't have to apologize to anyone else!

  • June 5, 2002, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Jennifer Garner au jus.

    by Christopher3

    You will need: 1) hot beef gravy; 2) Jennifer Garner. Directions: apply hot beef gravy to Jennifer Garner's abdominal region. Enjoy! Serves one, by which I mean me. Bet she wishes now that she didn't do "Dude, Where's My Car?"

  • June 5, 2002, 10:14 a.m. CST

    P.S. Ang Lee for "Fantastic Four."

    by Christopher3

    I wonder why he didn't take this one off the bat.

  • June 5, 2002, 10:51 a.m. CST

    by lord_ruthven

    I just heard an interview with Stan Lee on NPR yesterday and he said that in the early issues of FF he tried to get away without giving them costumes. He got so much fan mail from people demanding that they wear costumes, that he had to capitulate and put them in those silly things. His original vision was ordianry people that happened to have super-powers. Well, maybe not the Thing, he never looked ordianry. It was great when he described his publishers reaction as Stan pitched the idea of Spiderman. For some reason though, people want comic book heros in costumes. Maybe it's to differentiate the charcaters from the real world. I don't know. In movies it just seems silly, because we're used to seeing real people, portraying realistc characters on film. Comic book characters are totally bizarre, but it's a comic book. That's why I enjoyed Unbreakable and it's expolation of those themes. I think they did a great job with Spiderman. He's an icon and I think they transferred that world onto film really well. X-men was okay, because they toned the costumes down. Elektra and Bullseye might dress flamboyantly in this film, but I think the point is that it's not out of the realm of possiblity that you would see someone like that walking around. I've yet to make up my mind about the target scarring thing. As some people have pointed out a real life hitman wouldn't want to draw that much attention to himself. I always liked Bullseye cause he was a little nuts though, and that sounds like something he might do in a non-costume world. I just hope he laughs his ass off, gets liquered up, and smokes alot when he figures out DD's secret ID. That was a great scene in the comics.

  • June 5, 2002, 11:55 a.m. CST

    I like the costuming

    by Spider-nerd

    Its very practical and mobile. Comic book costumes only look practical in comics. Where the heroes can be buff-as-hell and spandex is flattering. As Moriarty pointed out, the batman costumes made the action really dull cause poor Keaton couldnt move. The reason spider-man's costume worked was cause spiderman was always the "people's" hero. He was buff, he was defined. So making him look sorta scrawny (no offense Tobey) worked. you cant get away with that in most comics.

  • June 5, 2002, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Moriarty is the MAN!

    by Spider-nerd

    I gotta agree with Johnny_ahab, man Moriarty, you rock. I also had my doubts about this movie, but now Im psyched. Kudos to you, chief. Whatever they are payin' ya, it isnt enough!

  • June 5, 2002, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Bullseye picture

    by Spider-nerd

    I may be way behind, but is there a picture of Bullseye up yet. I really like the idea of him carving a bullseye in his head. Its remeniciant of Earth-X's Captain America.

  • June 5, 2002, 12:18 p.m. CST

    One last comment one the X-men costumes

    by Spider-nerd

    I may be alone on this one, but I thought Wolverine looked most bad-ass when he just wore the jeans, flannel shirt, leather jacket outfit. thats probably the farthest from his comic costume you could get but it complimented his personality better that the yellow spandex. I cant picture Logan in the bathroom struggling to get the yellow tights on. hopping around on one leg, bumping into the sink and falling over himself. I dont think so. He'd just run out in whatever he was wearing and kick some arse. But thats just my opinion, I could be wrong.

  • June 5, 2002, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Mr Chapel

    by Rogman

    Point taken RE Robocop2. (Didn't know Frank had written the third film, cos I 8nt never seen it. Watching the second was bad enough). The man should be given respect were it's due, tho, with regards Daredevil. This whole film is based on his run of Daredevil from issue 159 to whatever it was. Which was as ground-breaking (more so IMHO) as Dark Knight Returns. I haven't digged his later stuff so much, but the man is still a legend!! If U haven't got a clue what I'm on about, don't worry about it. It's a comic-book geek thing.

  • I smell corporate sell-out.

  • June 5, 2002, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Salon.com article on Fantastic Four

    by Ambrose Chappell

    This doesn't pertain to the DD movie, but I thought some of you might be interested in reading an article on Salon.com about the Fantastic Four. It's a pretty good, quick read. Follow the link, true believer: http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/2002/06/05/fantastic_four/index.html?x

  • June 5, 2002, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Ben Affleck sucks

    by Bronzewood

  • June 5, 2002, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Affleck sucking continued

    by Bronzewood

    First off Moriarty, you write a good article. And even though I have some qualms about this movie already, you put some of them to rest. Ben Affleck is a hack! He's had one or two good movies were his one emotion acting actually worked but other than that all his movies suck. Elektra costume sucked. Why does it have to be leather specifically? I've given up hope of all comic book movies using the exact costume for the book, so that's not my problem with it. Why couldn't it be something else? It totally looks like something out of the matrix. Bullseye sounds cool, no problem there. You almost convinced me that MCD could pull off Kingpin, but then I thought wait, the Kingpin is a big bald white guy. But at least you gave me a glimmer of hope in that he would be able to pull off what seems like a dialogue heavy role. Other than that Affleck sucks.

  • June 5, 2002, 5:40 p.m. CST

    Daredevil is gonna ROCK

    by The Daredevil

    Thanks for the report, Mori! I hope you will be invited back and do a follow-up of this report.

  • June 5, 2002, 6:53 p.m. CST

    Never really liked Daredevile

    by moose420

    Daredevil is one of those comics that I never really liked, And i think their should be a bunch of Comics that should be made before Daredevile but hopefully the movie will change my mind. Did anyone like the DAREDEVIL COSTUME cause i didn't WHATS YOUR GUYS OPIONS ON IT?????

  • June 5, 2002, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Looking forward to DD

    by Mr.F.N.Sunshine

    It sounds like they're going to get this one right from what I've read. The only negative things being said are of a nitpicky nature from people who would bitch about the taxes on the million dollars they won. There are more reasons to be excited about this flick than not so quit whining. By the way, AICN should consider resticting posts to fifty words or less. Who wants to read a 300 word OPINION.

  • June 5, 2002, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Lucas Raped My Breakfast Nook!

    by JAGUART

    Vanisher that was some funny shit. I sent that to a ton of people. Good comedy.

  • June 6, 2002, 3:54 p.m. CST

    The Captain,Lucky Luc, The Golden Brett, The Magic Man and the D

    by White_Noise

    Wait... That was a different series... I mean movie a few years ago. Never mind! LGRW!

  • June 6, 2002, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Assasin-Lady in Red, is dancing with me...

    by zer0cool2k2

    http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/zer0cool2k2/lst?.dir=/My+Photos&.src=ph&.view=

  • June 6, 2002, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Casting

    by zer0cool2k2

    I've got no major gripes with the casting in this film (at this point. Sure, I wanted Guy Pierce, but at least Affleck digs the comics. My biggest issue with him is he just looks a big lanky guy instead of the sinewy lithe figure I always saw DD as. I love Garner, even if she doesn't look exactly like the comic Elektra. I'd have loved to see Laura Harring in that Red Ninja-Swimsuit though. Duncan was inspired casting in my book, and what I've seen of Farrell makes me think he'll be great. Wouldn't it be funny to see Gwynneth as a drugged-out Karen Page opposite Affleck in a sequel? Now about the FF. Clooney could be good, but I think he now fears the superhero film. Maybe Naomi Watts for Sue. Paul Walker for Johnny. But WHO WILL BE DOOM? Y'know I always thought Iman would be the perfect Storm, but understod they might have thought her too old for the role and went with Halle instead. But I saw Iman on TV the other day, and she still looks amazing, and very much the statuesque African goddess.

  • June 6, 2002, 4:59 p.m. CST

    A Reason Why This Movie Might Be Cool

    by Barron34

    So far, most Superhero movies have missed out on a certain tone found in many comics: high-flying, death-defying acrobatic mortal combat across New York City rooftops in the dark of night amongst the gritty grime of the city. It appears that in Daredevil, much of the action might be taking place across the rooftops of New York at night, as it very well should. These rooftops are an entire exotic world unto themselves in the comics: a sort of extraordinary fantasy environment inhabited by the grim and godlike superheroes who live there in dark, gothic shadows, high above the mortals that they protect. *****This is a great aspect of the superhero genre: the rooftops are a unique place, like OZ or Middle-Earth is to fantasy, or Alien Planets are to Dune or Star Wars, so are the rooftops a unique setting of this genre. Only certain superheroes inhabit this grand environment(Batman, Daredevil, Spiderman, the Crow), and this environment has yet to fully take center stage as a setting in any comic book movie. Except perhaps the Crow, one of the greatest visuals of ANY film, in my opinion. We see some great sequences of Brandon Lee running across rooftops in the Crow, and fighting the final battle of that movie on top of a great old gothic cathedral in that same movie, all at night. That is the best roof-top combat superhero movie so far. The atmosphere was great. In Batman, we only have a brief but exhilirating opening sequence of Bats beating up some thugs on a high rooftop, and the finale again atop a church, battling the Joker. Most recently, Spiderman has a great sequence of Parker/Spidey racing through the night across roof-tops to stop Uncle Ben's killer. All good stuff, but the roof-tops and the dark, night atmosphere is only used sparingly, except perhaps with the Crow, where the gloom pervades the entire film.*****Daredevil is a classic character who inhabits this Shadow-world of dark rooftops,. If this movie combines the atmospherics of the Crow with the combat sensibilities of The Matrix, we might be in for a real treat. The few costumed pictures that we have seen so far are both rooftop shots of Daredevil and Elektra. If the movie and combats make good use of this setting, and the action his high-powered like Matrix (but unlike X-Men, which was a good film with action that was too tame), then, I suspect that we may have a movie that at least looks great, whihc is half the battle with a superhero mvoie, in my opinion (if it looks wrong, it is just silly at best: see the later Batman films). With a proper setting, production design, and amped-up combat, all that is needed is a kick-ass story, punchy dialogue, and decent acting. Let's hope that they can manage something like thta for this film.

  • June 6, 2002, 5:13 p.m. CST

    What the fuck?

    by PriestYoungblood

    OK, we've got requests for boycotts, ripping on Frank Miller, some shit about crossing the street, AGAIN with the X-Men costumes, probably some AOTC shit somewhere, and to make it even MORE nosensical, the talkback order is fucked up again. I fucking love this site and everyone on it. Seriously. Not you Arcturus, you're still an idjit. Just joking. OK, it's off to dealing coke out of the confessional again for me. Later kids.

  • June 6, 2002, 5:21 p.m. CST

    Was on the fence til I heard Favreau was Foggy...

    by Cabron

    then I was sold. Now, however, Bullseye in blue snakeskin? You might be losing me again. Michael Clark Duncan playing his character as "intelligent?" What an interesting stretch for the man. Don't mean to sound nasty, but if he pulls that one off he will finally win the Oscar he was once nominated for. Gotta admit, though, I like the line he says about being a successful black man in America.

  • June 6, 2002, 11:03 p.m. CST

    Towelie, here are my FF casting picks.........

    by axelfoley

    If I were casting the flick I'd pick Tim Robbins as Reed Richards/Mr. Fantastic, Patsy Kensit as Sue Storm/Invisible Woman, Paul Walker as Johnny Storm/Human Torch and a CGI Thing with Jon Favreau as Ben Grimm and Powers Boothe as Dr. Doom.

  • June 7, 2002, 9:47 a.m. CST

    holy shit ebonic plague!

    by PriestYoungblood

    OK, I found something interesting here, a quote from Ebonic Plague: "The main gripe? It's no more "realistic" than Elektra's original costume." THERE. Critics take note, this is actually a SENSIBLE citicism. Not it sucks 'cuz it's not red, ot it sucks because she's not greek. A criticism with some practicality to it. Incidentally Mr. Plague, I actually don't really care, since we're talking about superheroes which is unrealistic in the first place, but at least it's an opinion I can respect. Something rare in these parts.

  • June 7, 2002, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Hey, moose420

    by andrecrabtree111

    We're talking about the movie "Daredevil" in this talkback. The movie you posed about is "Daredevile" and, as we all know, that's a movie about that wacky crime-fighting Cadillac with a mean attitude! (sorry, couldn't stop myself from posting)

  • June 7, 2002, 12:34 p.m. CST

    oops

    by andrecrabtree111

    I meant "posted" not "posed." Geez, if I'm gonna base my post on someone else's misspelling, it'd be nice if I got mine right. I'm such a tool.

  • June 7, 2002, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Avi Arad Is My New Hero...Thus Replacing Cane From KUNG FU...

    by Buzz Maverik

    I just finished reading COMIC WARS by journalist Dan Raviv, about Marvel's bankruptcy and the modern robber barons who almost did away with our comics. Arad deserves most of the credit for saving Marvel and for doing it with coolness, strength and class! This guy is a real role model. A master toy designer who genuinely likes comics, movies and motorcycles, who wears a SPIDER MAN leather jacket to business meetings, and who makes bazillions of dollars (capitalism is good). Who wouldn't want to be this guy? Or be like him? He saved Marvel to save his toy company, true, but he loves the Marvel characters and stories. He brought in Jemas, who is a little abrasive for us fans used to Stan being our buddy, but Jemas' serves an older fan base and if you look at him as one adult to another, he's kind of cool and they are really smart. They don't distinguish between comics, movies, merchandise. They make money and the fans get good stuff. All business majors and law students should read COMIC WARS.

  • June 7, 2002, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Great Post, Baron34.

    by Buzz Maverik

    I especially like and agree with the concept of the rooftops in comic books almost being a mythical landscape. It's true! And the CROW is the only film that got it right.

  • June 7, 2002, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Elektra's costume

    by elektrah

    Before you sing any praises of the old Elektra costume - think about it. I always said a true ninja assassin would never wear it - all of the hanging bits get in the way! Trust me -- I've tried it. The new look is a real improvement.

  • June 7, 2002, 8:55 p.m. CST

    Rooftops

    by Barron34

    Thanks, Buzz. Eagerly awaiting your next "Weekly Recap", BTW.

  • June 8, 2002, 1:55 a.m. CST

    DD is the shit.

    by Justin Credible

    This movie is going to be great. Jennifer Garner is cool, Ben Affleck is cool, and Michael Clark Duncan is bad ass. I'm glad Marvel is making this movie. BTW, did anyone see the MTV movie awards? Sarah Michelle Gellar is a much better Mary Jane than Kirsten Dunst.

  • June 9, 2002, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Daredevil is IRRELEVANT!

    by beauparleur

    My sincere, heart-felt apologies to all of the DD enthousiasts out there, but "The Man Without Fear" is like Black Cat; as she is nothing more than a made-in-Hong-Kong version of Catwoman, he's merely a poor man's Batman. Theres as little "buzz" in the entertainment industry for the Daredevil flick as there once was for the Blade sequel. People will pay attention to him for a week or so, and then he'll fall into oblivion. Daredevil, Ghost Rider, Punisher, they simply don't matter nowadays.

  • June 9, 2002, 3:13 p.m. CST

    I'm pissed she's wearing pants.

    by buffy3:16

    See, at least one person on this board was right.

  • June 9, 2002, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Even if it doesn't do SPIDER-MAN money...

    by Voice O. Reason

    ...we're all gonna see it, if only to bitch about it afterwords. Besides, wasn't Affleck the bomb in PHANTOMS, yo?

  • June 9, 2002, 3:20 p.m. CST

    AxelFoley: Tim Robbins would make an awesome Reed Richards!

    by Voice O. Reason

    Except for Powers Booth, I"ve never even heard of any of those other cats. My choice for THING: Ving Rhames. No, seriously.

  • June 9, 2002, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Roselyn Sanchez

    by REDD

    Jennifer Garner does not look exotic enough for the role (imho). She just doesn't do "it" for me. I like Roselyn Sanchez from "Rush Hour 2" for the part. Oh well.

  • June 9, 2002, 10:19 p.m. CST

    HE MADE IT

    by slicko99

    Has Affleck finally made himself "bankable"????? Changing lanes didn't go badly... nor did SUM OF ALL FEARS..... now Daredevil? Is he the new Harrison FOrd *discuss*

  • June 10, 2002, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Tim Robbins isn't leading man material, and he wouldn't

    by beauparleur

    Pierce Brosnan would be a great Richard Reed, though. Think of his charming portrayal of a gentleman/scientist from either Dante's Peak or Mars Attacks.

  • June 10, 2002, 2:35 p.m. CST

    thats a costume?

    by Saviano

    i saw a girl wearing that same outfit at a club over the weekend... and the X-Men look like a bike-gang...

  • June 10, 2002, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Beauparleur

    by Strawhenge

    Pierce Brosnan as Richard Reed (Reid)? The Shoe-bomber? Ahh, I dunno. Brosnan's really only good at playing Brosnan. I saw him play an Indian once. It was nuh good.

  • June 10, 2002, 6:37 p.m. CST

    hey ANDERCRABETREE111, GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!!

    by moose420

    Your fucking stupid try to make fun of my spelling when you can't even type and so in the words of the great Brandon Dicimillo" THERES NO CUM ON YOUR FACE CAUSE ITS ALL IN YOUR BELLY FAGET!!!!" (anyone that skates and has seen the skatermovie CKY3 knows what i'm talking about and if u don't know then rent it its by Bam Margera , those guys off Jackass, but the stuff that can't show u on TV)

  • June 10, 2002, 6:42 p.m. CST

    CKY,CKY2K,CKY3

    by moose420

    these are the movies that got Bam,Brandon,Rake Yohn,Ryan Dunn, Raab Himself on Jackass. Its the stuff they can't show you on tv like for on CKY3 Raab Himself takes a shit at full speed and on CKY2K Ryan Dunn pisses in Brandon Dicimillios Mouth. This movies are hilarous if u like Jackass and are by far the best skatemovies out their. By the way CKY means Can't Kill Yourself 1

  • June 10, 2002, 9:47 p.m. CST

    AFF-LACK ATTACK!

    by TomVee

    To Slick: Is there any question Ben Who-Flak is the new Harrison Ford? I thought it was a foregone conclusion. I still think Matt Damon should be DD, but what the hell. It's water over the dam now. Meanwhile... Who should play Wonder Woman? Jennifer Garner? Looks right, but probably too young. Sandra Bullock? Also looks right, but definitely too old now. Angelina Jolie? Looks perfect but she'd be much too sexy for you cream-in-your-pants talkbackers. Plus she's stuck with Lara Croft for the next five years or so. I would vote for Garner, especially if the filming is a couple of years away. That would give her time to grow up. Now, who should play Green Lantern? Ben Who-Flak is the obvious choice, but he can't be both DD and GL. That leaves Josh Hartnett. Or maybe a slender youngster like Guy Pearce -- there was always a bit of a homoerotic thing going on with GL's costume, especially in the late 70s when Neal Adams was drawing him.

  • June 10, 2002, 9:58 p.m. CST

    SKIN TIGHT and TASSELS TOO

    by TomVee

    ELEKTRAH says she has tried out Elektra's costume. Assuming ELEKTRAH is a genuine female, might we see some pix?

  • June 12, 2002, 1:59 a.m. CST

    daredevil

    by Albator

    yah , I m really not into comics and I was wondering what the daredevil caracter actually does .

  • June 25, 2002, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Elektra's costume

    by elektrah

    In response to the challenge from TomVee - I have posted some pictures from close to 20 years ago. I remember running around town advertising a comic book show, with Bullseye hot on my heels. My sai got caught in the costume, caught in the hair, etc.... http://www.blueblaze.com/superhro.htm