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Sean Connery to return as Henry Jones Sr! INDIANA JONES 4
Hey folks, Harry here... I've been hearing a lot of news about the fourth Indiana Jones film since the posting I put up. Plans are solidifying, but not so quickly to start shooting this summer. They do have a writer and they are looking to see this as coming about July 4th, 2004 and if there are delays, same date 2005. The writer they have has yet to be confirmed by me, so I'll stay silent on it at the moment, but it wouldn't be the first time he's tinkered with the character. Ahem. And it is being set out to top all previous Indy Stories. We'll see. However, while the script is being written the storyline apparently exists (I'm working on it!). We've heard that it entails at least a scene with Indy's previous loves. And now... Henry Jones Sr! Here ya go....
Sean Connery (in Italy to recieve an achievment from italian television)
told yesterday to italian journalists that probably he will play again the
role of Indy's farther.
Interview broadcasted yesterday at prime time news on CANALE 5.
Gianmaria Caschetto
Milan
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Maybe this project will get off the ground after all... It's only been since 1989 for the last one...
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Let's get Michael J Fox to do Back to the future 4,and why not Rocky VI, Rambo IV, Dirty Harry 5-6(?) Smokey and the bandit 4, Star Trek 11: The search for Kirk, Karate Kid 5 with Ralph Machio fighting those 40 year old kids again! Fuck! Raiders was great but it's time came and went-leave it alone. The third one sucked anyway and a 60 year old Indy won't get any better.
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May 08, 2002 10:18:39 AM CDT
I thought everybody and his dog already let slip that the writer
by jonquixote
A clever Knowles ploy to milk more articles from this information, or is there something I don't know?
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that his "previous love" is Kate Capshaw. Remember that story a few months ago where the guy meets Spielberg at a restaurant after the Oscars and he says his wife is in it? It's a shame, I really don't like the Temple of Doom. Also, the IMDB says this thing is coming out in 2004. Who knows if that is accurate, though.
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May 08, 2002 10:40:27 AM CDT
Please let the writer be Lawrence Kasdan, God...Pretty please?
by lostoptimist
I know Kasdan isn't as happy writing big bucks projects for others as he is writing stuff for himself but if he's THE one taking another go at Indy, well, hot damn! Color me enthused.
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How in the name of all that is holy are you people actually EXCITED about this? HE'S FIFTY FUCKING SEVEN YEARS OF AGE YOU PACK OF MINDLESS PUNTERS!!!! He left his ability to play Indy, now a bona-fide SCREEN ICON, behind 10 YEARS AGO. Do you REALLY want to see see a craggy old man (Thats what he is folks, please please PLEASE stop kidding yourselves) wheezing around in the fedora? Why not leave it alone? Indy is timeless...an ageless icon and thats the way he should be left - why must we be subjected to said-icon appearing old and weak on our screens? WHY RUIN IT? Its like Ahnholdt signing up for Terminator III. 11 YEARS after Terminator II which, age-wise, he just about pulled off. 12 years ago. WHY IN GOD'S NAME WOULD THE TERMINATOR DESIGNERS OF THE FUTURE DESIGN A ROBOT THAT LOOKS 56 YEARS OLD???
AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGH!!!! Sorry. I'm losing it here. I just can't understand, repeat CANNOT UNDERSTAND why people are excited about our cherished memories of these screen characters being RUINED. Harrison Ford said in an interview recently in answer to 'Are you too old too play Indy?'...he said 'Why? Why am I too old?' Let me tell you Harrison. Because Indiana Jones is NOT A CRAGGY OLD MAN. You are, but he's not - he's 13 years younger than you are now AND HE ALWAYS WILL BE. Ah fuck it. Who am I trying to kid. Expect Terminator 6 - They Took His Zimmer-Frame, Its Time for The Incontinence Pants!!! in about 12 years time. -
If Indiana Jones is 60, this means that his father has to be at least 80 or 85. Will they age Sean with makeup or try to make Harrison look younger? This whole project is such a dumb idea. Why not just leave it a trilogy?? It's like trying to bring back old has-been Arnold in action movies... oops, forget I said that.
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Nice rant, I wholeheartedly agree.
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May 08, 2002 10:53:12 AM CDT
I want to see Random Hearts 2, 7 days, 8 nights,Sabrina's re
by tarl_cabot
and a sequel to every other shitty movie Harrison Ford has made the last 15 years would be as appealing to me as Indy 4. Harrison must not have enough planes to wanna make another Indy flick. $35 million to play a senior citizen kick ass around the world with a bull whip is hard to decline...Go out with some class Ford! Don't do an Entrapment, Star Trek Generations or View to a kill...Even Mel Gibson had the wisdom to decline Gladiator; he was the first choice.
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May 08, 2002 10:57:23 AM CDT
I think it is shit they are still making us wait, I just hope th
by endaclone
I admit I want to see it, IF THEY DO NOT FUCK IT UP!!
I know he is too old for the part but come on which one of you are not curious about seeing it,(then again curiosity did kill the cat)but I do want to see it, even if I end up wishing they never made it.
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So where's the inevitable online petition to get Jet Li as Short Round? sk
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May 08, 2002 11:13:52 AM CDT
Sergio and endclone: He is actually Fifty fucking Nine! and the
by tarl_cabot
Spiderman and Matrix are the new Kings of cool. It's over for Indy.
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It's the complete short sighted bullshit view of teen geeks to think there are no good stories to tell about people, even action heroes, who are beyond the age of 40. I'd lay odds that Harrison Ford could knock the shit eating snot nosed grin off just about any poster here and have a good time doing it. You don't just throw people away because they have a few more wrinkles then you do. Guess this means no one here would ever want to see the real Dark Knight Returns.
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I for one cant wait to see this!
I have been quite a big indy fan since the days of old....
the combinations on lucas/williams/ford/connery are the most awesome ever!
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Everyone's griping about Harrison Ford, when they should be worrying about Spielberg. Is his heart still in it? "Last Crusade" was a good movie, but when compared with the previous two, it was pretty weak. A good writer can get around the fact that Indy's older now (Sherlock Holmes was still solving a few cases well into his retirement, and let's not forget that Clint Eastwood made his best "Clint Eastwood western" when he was an old man). Let me put it this way: say Harrison Ford were not so old, say they made this film right after "Last Crusade", what else could they do with this character? (I vote we put him in space... Indy continuity should be approaching the time of the Great Space Race; but that's me.) By the way, I'm most worried about what this does for "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen", if Indy really does start shooting in a couple of months. I was pretty excited about seeing Connery do Quatermain.
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That old fart would get a brooklyn beatin' of the week from me. Even if he could kick most of our asses he still is TOO FUCKING OLD TO PLAY INDY!
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I think you're missing my point, with all due respect - if Harrison Ford, or any other going-on-sixty actor wants to create a kind of aging Indy character - let's call him "Buck Veridian!", I have no problem with that. Connery has been hammering out (semi) respectable action roles for years now (The Rock, Red October to name a couple) My point is this - Indy is at the age he is now and FOREVER MORE. thats what an icon IS. Something dear to our hearts that NEVER ages. Marilyn Monroe. James Dean. (I know they're dead, but you know what I mean) If Ford were to play Indy now, it would dilute the ageless purity and iconic nature of the charcter, it will compromise the image countless millions have of Indy, his vitality, his dynamism and his ability to hold his water when dangling from a fucking cliff. If this sounds ageist and discriminatory, I apologise - I just don't want one of my favourite all-time screen characters making an (old) ass of himself on the silver screen, being glaringly replaced by stunt-doubles when anything other than a slow 'amble' is required. "Harrison? Could you 'amble' over to the tank please? Good. Thanks. DOUBLE!!" Incidentally, I would LOVE to see The Dark Knight Returns filmed properly.
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You know, I never actually saw
Temple of Doom, so the only
knowledge I have of it is from the
MAD Magazine spoof, which was
probably better than the film
anyway. All that fuss over the
bung for their beer keg. I am
not looking forward to seeing
Kate Capshaw ruin another movie.
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Didn't you just post a story a few days ago saying that filming is to start THIS summer? Now you're posting a story saying they are still in the writing stage??? What gives here??
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Do we really need an Indy 4?
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Possible title for Nazi Nursing Home story? Maybe. But I really can't believe they're making this... 60 year old action heroes aren't fun, unless it's Arnie.
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Great. You're first. Except you're not, are you? You are, in fact, turd. Get a fucking life and stop wasting space on the talkbacks. Like a few others here, I wasn't sure if Crusade was a good Indy film [I loved Temple of Doom, though]. It seemed to have most of the elements, and the father/son stuff was mildly amusing, I suppose. But if the story is a good as Harry claims, it won't matter. That, for me, was the redeeming feature of Crusade: that it was about The Grail. What next, Atlantis, maybe?
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Thank God! I have been awaiting real news on this project for about eight years now! I LOVE Indiana Jones! The three films so far have been the three finest, most unimpeachable action/adventure movies ever made... and I have no reason to assume that a fourth (with a real writer attached) would not be real swell. Hell, if they would solidify this, Lucas could just skip making "Episode 3" all together. And I'm a Star Wars fan! But Indiana Jones is the great serialized modern screen character... and I'm jumping out of my seat over this project. (And sixty is not too old to be Indy, folks. Ford is still in fine shape... and how friggin' old is Clint Eastwood? You don't mind him, or Connery, do you? Indy will just be older now... a Cold War Indy! Doesn't that sound cool? Won't all you spiteful little people be running out to see this? Well, if not, then Messers. Lucas and Spielberg can be assured that everyone else (including women, a big part of the Indy audience) most certainly will. Hooray!!! (Ever notice how the people with the stupidest, most ingrown opinions are also the least capable writers and worst spellers? It's the same logic that proves that no white Christian music is ever any good.)
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Without the Nazis, I'm not sure how it will go over, but who knows... Hmmmm... Let's see... Indy 1 was really Indy 2, while Indy 2 was really a prequel to Indy 1, meaning Indy 2 WAS Indy 1, and Indy 3 came after both 1 and 2, making Indy 3 the true Indy 3, and of course Indy 4 will be Indy 4. Got that?! The movie is waaaayyy overdue, but I'm still looking forward to it.
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I am a little confused about why people care so much about Indy's age. He got his ass kicked in every single film. He fought like a bad ass, but he was not invincible. Never was, and that is why this movie has great potential. Will he fight people, absolutely, will he get his ass kicked, I hope so. Indiana Jones was a just a regular man, and not a super hero. Come on, he cheated in almost every fight he was in. Whether it be throwing sand in someone's face or kicking them in the groin or just plain shooting them.
Did anyone complain about Clint's character in Unforgiven being too old. Hell no. Sixty is old but it isn't that old. Plus isn't Indiana Jones an Archaeologist/professor? Even more, Harrison doesn't even look close to sixty.
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You know you want to.
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I don't understand. Is everyone's objection to this movie that Indiana Jones would never get old, or that you just don't want to see him get old?
I mean, how could Harrison Ford be "too old" to play Indy? Is Indy going to remain young forever? Would it be impossible for Steven Spielberg and someone else to invent an interesting story that concerns the latter years of Indiana Jones? Don't you even want to find out the plot before declaring the project impossible?
And, as for the guy who claimed that Harrison and Sean Connery look the same age, well, that's just too stupid to even get into. I mean, was that a problem the last time they played father and son? So, why would it affect consistancy now, in the follow-up? Should Connery age more quickly than Ford?
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I definitely would be overwhelmed if this does make it to the big screen. I want to see this movie more than any other. If Indy IV and SW Ep III opened on the same day, I would rather see Indy.
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Indy's already tackled the mystery of Atlantis is the excellent, excellent Lucasarts game from the early 90s, Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis. I recently played it, and that game still rocks!
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For as much as we're all so consumed in naysaying Ford's steady decline, I sincerely doubt that he, Spielberg and Lucas will be somehow unable to thirl movie audiences at least one last time. I can do without the dreaded return of Kate Capshaw's annoying Willie, but am encouraged by Connery's return. Pity Denholm Elliot isn't with us anymore...
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Do I dare mention Paul Nueman in the Color of Money?
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May 08, 2002 1:12:36 PM CDT
Praetor: Do you think that means they will not use Atlantis?
by barrelrider
...that would be a shame. I think it's cooler when they use well-known myths like the Ark and The Grail, then again, I loved TOD, so maybe I'm being an ass. My point is, this movie will not survive simply by Ford and Connery reprising their roles - it's gonna need a killer story.
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May 08, 2002 1:31:28 PM CDT
Kasdan needs to be helping out Lucas on Star Wars 3, not Hayles.
by silver_joo
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May 08, 2002 1:43:46 PM CDT
*sigh* ...well it`s hard to decide if it is good or bad to make
by drjones
...it`s a tightrope walk i think.
now the good i expected happened. other people start mailing harry indy4 stuff. PLEASE ALL SPIES OUT THERE!!!!! GIVE US CLUES AND TIDBITS JUST SEND IT TO HARRY MORI OR WHO KNOWS...
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I have a hunch that what the story is going to be is something like this: Old Indy and Grandpa Indy are reunited with Indy's long lost son who Indy fathered, unbeknownest to him, with Kate Capshaw. I mean why else bring her back after all of this time?
This way they can put in three generations of Joneses. I see the young Indy being someone like Ben Affleck or Matt Damon or Brad Pitt... someone along those lines, a guy the younger ladies in the audience can moon over. I seriously think this is what they are going to do.
It sounds really weak to me. The first Indy was incredible, the second one was terrible beyond belief, and the third one was sort of okay. Let's just leave it alone and move on with life. That's not to say that when Indy 4 comes out I won't be there opening day. I will, without a doubt be there. Damn it! -
... that a number of Indiana's past loves all return in one scene. (Kapshaw's annoying Willie Scott might be passable on-screen against Karen Allen's Marion Ravenwood -- though I don't see any way of bring back Alison Doody's Elsa Schneider.) Indy's greatest death defying stunt? Could be. And excuse me for reacting to this rampant ageism, but where is it written fictional characters aren't allowed to age? I have a feeling the perspective of some talkbacker's may clear up a few years after their faces do.
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Is Indy too old... I know, 6 Days was pretty disappointing, I know that Random Hearts sucked, but his latest, What Lies Beneath, was dead on. He may be older, but he pulled it off there. He was a great bad guy (sorry for the spoiler). That was only a couple of years ago. He can do this and be great at it. And am I the only one who liked Last Crusade? To finally understand the two sides of Indy (the hat=adventure side and the glasses=teacher side representing the guy that influenced him as a kid and his father respectively). Who knows, if we're not careful, maybe they'll try to let Ben Affleck fill Indy's shoes someday...
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Indiana shoots a Nazi. INDY: "I'm getting too old for this." *knocking on door* HENRY SR: "There's someone at the door!" KATE: "It's me, you old poop!"
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The frequently reported scene with Indy meeting his old lovers Marion and Willie is from the rejected "Saucer Men from Mars" Script. Sounds like they're going with this one, having it polished by Larry Kasdan. The Saucer Men script was written in 1995 by Jeb Stuart and George Lucas. There's an old online synopsis here: http://www.indyfan.com/articles/saucer.html, and I even remember seeing a detailed online script review somewhere, so get your search engines going. Despite the storyline sounding pretty convoluted, the review said that the script was actually not too bad. - Personally, I like the "space age touch" and I think the story could make a pretty cool Indy movie, if handled right. But that's just me.
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This isn't going to be a remake of On Golden Pond... its Grumpy Old Men, part 3: Grumpy Old Men with a Vengeance.
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http://filmforce.ign.com/indy/articles/33968p1.html
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on a "non-governmental-sanctioned" dig in China in 1952
when the Chinese decide to "help" the North Koreans. Throw in a reported "Roswell" type of crash, and the threat of Communist China using extraterrestial technology to overthrow Korea and perhaps the rest of the world, and there you have a story. -
I dont know why some people have so many problems with Indy getting Older. Indy has alway been one of the most human characters we have seen in action Movies. We have seen him get beat up, thrown around, and fail on occasion. He was never some Super Human machine that blows up everything in his path and never ages. Archeologist's have incredibly long careers even in the field and I dont see why Indy cant. Dealing with age is something we all must go through it would be interesting to see how Indy deals with it. Remember Indys greatest asset wasnt his brawn it was his mind. Look at Raiders when he shoots a master Swordsman instead of being lulled into a sword fight. I think Indy 4 has the creative talent behind it to be a wonderful movie.
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Tom Selleck should definitely be in this as Indy's brother. He would have made a great Dr Jones but just couldn't get out of his Magnum contract and I will go to my grave insisting that he has more screen prescence in his little finger than Harrison (I mumble so much no one can hear a word I say) Ford has in his entire body. Someone give him the second chance he so richly deserves and get him into this film.
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I read a couple of different stories a while back about a plot they once had in mind. It involved Roswell in 1947.
Anyone familiar with THAT story knows that according to 'witnesses' of the 'crash', one of the first groups of people to accidently arrive on the site of the 'wreckage' before the military was a group of student archeaologists led by some Professor. Lucas and Spielberg were going to have a clever little tie-in with 'actual' history with the movie. Did anybody else here about that?
It looks like now that even if that story was seriously being considered, it's been replaced with some sort of reunion show.
Coyote Halbert
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Every movie had a religious foundation on which the adventure was formed, even TOD. Also, each villian met his or her demise thorugh their blasphemous attempts to control the religius artifact. Belloq melted from viewing the Ark, Molla Ram fell to his death by trying to grab the Stones, and Donovan aged to death by drinking from the wrong Grail. Interesting, Indiana never killed thr main villian in any of the movies...God did (or their "God", if you are Molla Ram)
As for who is writing it?
My guess is Larry Kasdan will return to help Lucas.
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Don't get me wrong, I like Connery, as Bond, as a human being, but in general as an actor, since 1980, anything he does is a typecast over-the-top over-cooked performance. I don't care if I ever see him onscreen again.
Same with others like him, Al Pacino, John Rhys-Davies, has anyone ever seen these guys play anything other than their usual roles. They don't even bother try a new approach, its all the same. It would be the same if Carroll O'Connor acted like Archie Bunker in every role he ever did after All in the Family. That's how these three guys are. Too bad for Connery, as I generally like him and wish he'd get different kinds of leading roles. The stereotypical roles they get make me gag.
Pacino in Heat, and any other film of his. Typical. Gag me. Give me something fresh. Almost ruined that great film.
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She's looking rough, but she'll teach you stuff. Seriously, some of you poor callow virgins could use a lesson or two. I mean, I liked 'Spider-Man' and I'm dying for 'Attack of the Clones' and I understand some people enjoyed 'Fellowship of the Ring', but is it a new rule that all action heroes need to be scrawny pre-pubescent pansies? Based on 'A.I.' and what I've seen of 'Minority Report', Spielberg seems to be back at the top of his game. Indy's always been kind of an irritable grouch. I'll be happy to see him with a few more lines on his face, more full of piss and vinegar than ever. I'm all for this.
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What is Connery's stereotypical role? Blustery, baffoonery, bag of wind. Far beneath Connery. The upside of the doomed trio was Rhys Davies in LotR. Though the voice was recognizable, Rhys Davies was not. A little refreshing, and the character that he played, Gimli, would have been Connery's cast-iron typical role. Why they didn't typecast Connery in the role amazes me. Thank goodness they didn't. Blustery and baffoonish are typical of both Connery and Rhys Davies' roles, but Connery adds overt objectionableness to that mix that is new to Rhys Davies, and he seemed to pull out in Gimli rather OK-ish, and would have been just routine for Connery.
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This idea is full of woe.
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SPELL CHECK + PROOF READ = SUCCESS!
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riding on a horse 'out of' the break of dawn.
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May 08, 2002 3:40:44 PM CDT
The Stoppard Rumors Are Lies. I'm Writing This Script. Here&
by buzz maverik
EXT. AIRFIELD -- DAY The motorcycle slides out from under Indy and spins across the tarmac. Indy climbs to his feet to find JERRY SEINFELD wailing on Henry Sr. Enraged, Indy pulls his father aside and approaches Seinfeld with his dukes up. INDY:"Why don't you pick on somebody your own age?" SEINFELD:"Okay. You got any kids?" Indy and Henry Sr. look at each other. INDY & HENRY SR.:"Mendelbaum! Mendelbaum! Mendelbaum!"...
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Ok, so we all know Connery is a ho for money, but this is still cool. As for as you saying Indy 3 sucked, blow me, that was a bad ass fucking flick you douche bag. Indy 4 will rock!
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May 08, 2002 3:58:06 PM CDT
Put Melvinator's theory to the test...Make a Kingdom Come mo
by walterburns
I don't really agree or disagree with Melvin or Sergio's theories. It all depends on the movie. Hell, Eastwood was 40 when he played the Man with No Name for the first time. And how old are were Mel and Danny in the last Lethal Weapon? (yes, I realize they've ALWAYS been too old for this shit.) Either way, the only way to test Melvinator's theory make the Kingdom Come movie. You know not just ONE media icon that's a million years old....try 10 of them. Get Michael Douglas, Clint Eastwood, James Cromwell to play Superman, Batman, and Green Lantern. If this movie can cut the mustard (despite that fact that it's way too huge to ever made well) then that would prove the theory beyond a shadow of a doubt.
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I have no idea why this site put up that obvious B.S story when all you have to do is research the fact that Spielberg will be making catch me if you can well past June.
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SHADDAP Buzz, you oh so funny comedian. Stop jerkin yourself off. No one wants to hear shitty stories any more ok?!?!?!?!? Instead of just crying for attention, how bout saying something relephant for a change? YOOOO AH OUTTA HEAH!!!
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Remember "Young Indiana Jones Chronicles"? (Which did NOT suck) We saw an 80 or 90 year old indy. I think lucasfilm does consider this to be canonical. (Recalling the job requirements for an internship position they advertised a few years back...some film/tape library thing...)
Anyhow, yes, Indy gets old. Indy settles down. A "happily ever after" ending would WORK in a fourth Indy movie, because it would make SENSE, enough to please any REASONABLE fan, AND it would have the benefit of appealing to the hordes of casual moviegoers who can't stand movies that DON'T end that way. -
eh, look at meeeee! I'm all teary-eyed because they are doing something with my imaginary hero and didn't ask my permission. Ooooo...he's to old. Look at meeeee....
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No matter how big a success a movie is....and now matter how many times you've seen it....
FANS have NO rights to the characters, story, or concept!
If they want to put indiana jones in a screwball, cannonball run, race-across-the-country, comedy with a "jar-jar" loser sidekick then replace the fedora with one of those caps with the foam rubber boobies on them and hire Freddy Prinze Jr. for the title role,.....well button your lip and deal with it because your opinion doesn't matter. -
He's in great shape for his age. And maybe some of you heard of STUNTMEN? (Sorry, that wasn't Ford underneath the truck in Raiders). It's not like he's physically unable to pull it off. The thing most of us fans of the franchise should be worried about is the writing, not Ford's age. Raiders was just about as perfect a thinking man's action movie as anyone could hope for. The plot was complex yet easy to follow, the villains had depth and dimension. Belloq was a complex adversary for Indy. Now compare that to Last Crusade, which was a string of slapstick comedy bits and cardboard cutout Nazis. You just had the vibe Speilberg's heart wasn't in it for that one, that he just wanted to go through the motions, get it done, and move on to the next project.
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To whoever said Spiderman and Matrix are the new "king of cool" ... bite me. not to say that they were bad films... but they are not the new kings of cool... who the hell are u to dictate sumthin like that? what are you? 14?
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I don't care if he's in a fucking wheelchair. Indiana Jones kicks the shit out of any lame ass action hero of today especially that over-hyped webhead bore. Anyone who has the nerve to say those shit Mummy movies have anything on Indiana Jones, get real. I don't know how Spielberg and Lucas can rival Last Crusade but they sure as hell waited long enough. Let's hope it pays off. I for one will be excited as hell to see the first footage of Ford in his fedora cracking some stooge across the jaw.
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May 08, 2002 6:00:23 PM CDT
Why stop with four? We have a Franchise in the making..
by timbenzedrine
All the surviving characters from the previous films (including Hitler) reuite for chapter four: Indiana Jones and the Fountain of Youth, followed by chapter five: Indy Babies!
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Lucasfilm is in the process of full-body scanning Harrison Ford for use as an all CGI character both as a Han Solo cameo in Episode 3 and as Indiana Jones in Indy 4. ILM is perfecting their new de-aging technology so that Han/Indy won't look as crusty as Palapatine/Jones,Sr. Harrison Ford will supply the voice for both characters in a reported $20 million deal
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I meant "reunite" (why can't I catch these things before I hit "post"?)
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May 08, 2002 6:12:29 PM CDT
SwingerJTC: I said it. Afterall, this Aint it COOL news.com righ
by tarl_cabot
OK maybe that sounded kinda lame. You got me but what I meant was the next Spiderman and The Matrix sequels are a lot more promising than another Indy flick starring a 60 year old man. I loved Raiders and Temple.I hated the Last crusade. I hated the last Star Wars movie too. I will see AOTC with an open mind but my point was there are new things on the scene that create much more interest for me than tired 80's retreaded material. One talkbacker said Indy is an Icon and his memory of being a man in his prime should remain and I agree with that. Raiders will always be the gold standard of popcorn cinema but any further adventures from Indy are a waste of time.
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...brotherhood is what I'm all about. I'm assuming the "brother" was a Freudian slip, with you brooding about your father's relation to your mother.
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You sound like a moron. Melvinator hit the nail on the head with his Dark Knight Returns analogy. Old doesn't equal bad. I'm not entirely sure that it's even possible to make a bad Indy movie with all the talent involved. Hell, even Temple of Doom kicks the crap out of soooooo many movies it's ridiculous.
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Mixed feeling on this one. Harrison is probably too old. Damn it all anyways. This is what we we when everything is all tattoos, Rap and R&B, and the Marijuana. Some kind of twisted backlash. Hollywood, searching for its soul, decides to give us Indy 4 and Jar Jar Binks. Well its just too little too late now, isn't it?
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May 08, 2002 7:32:24 PM CDT
This is another case of the kiddie ripping on film franchises of
by sea bass
Sorry kids, but Indy and SW kicks ass on crying midgets and "Ted" prancing around in a trenchcoat.
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Oh that killed me. Personally, I could go for another shot of Indiana Jones. Old, shmold. Remember the old geezer Indy with the eye patch on "The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles" TV show? Harrison's way younger than that guy, anyway. Ford's in good shape for a guy pushing sixty and could probably still do most of the physical stuff that he did in "Last Crusade". I think it'll be fine as long as he plays his actual age, like Eastwood in "Unforgiven". Why not give it a chance before you start ripping the idea apart? Seriously, I don't know why some of you guys come to this site and participate in these talkbacks. You hate all the new projects, you don't want to see sequels, remakes, adaptations or reimaginings, every idea is stupid, every actor sucks, none of the popular directors are any good, CGI sucks blah, blah, blah. Some of you "critics" really need to get off your asses and show everyone how it's done. Flame away...
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Director of Photography Doug Slocombe is 89 and has recently lost his sight. He is as much a part of the Indiana Jones legacy as any of them. To do a film without him is wrong - in every sense of the word.
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Now it's been a while since I saw the Last Crusade so correct me if I'm wrong... but in the end Indy drank from the holy grail, which was supposed to grant him eternal life or something.
Doesn't that mean that he shouldn't have aged like that old geezer Harrison Ford? He should still be as young as he was at the end of Crusade right? I dunno.
How about this for a premise: it's the year 2002 and immortal Indy is still an archaeologist, trying to discover the lost credibility of Hollywood. I think there is a title in there somewhere... -
It was awfulness.
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As I recall the knight told Indy that those who drink from the grail are immortal as long as the grail remains in the chamber and does not cross the seal on the floor. When the blonde tried to take the grail, the chamber collapsed and Indy probably lost his immortality at that point.
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Look, all you naysayers, what's the point of selling you hereoes if you LEARN NOTHING? Batman the Dark Knight is great because it was written that way. My DAD at 57 could kick the ass out of any of you guys, and not only that you all like Indy becuase he's your hero. Just because he's older doesn't make it bad. For God's sake he's also an archaeologist, and a University Professor!! Get with it. The movie will rock. Harrison Rocks. Connery is the best. They should make this movie, and it will be good. That will still be Indy up on that screen, and if you guys had any real kahoonas, your show the proper respect that Indy should have taught ya. PROPS, PEEPS!
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May 08, 2002 8:40:52 PM CDT
Tarl cabot, Serhio Kidmark, you are both talking BULLSHIT
by captain katanga
Its late, I'm tired, and reasoned argument is beyond me so I'll resort to this: you are talking SOLID GOLD HORSESHIT. HOW supposed film lovers can come here and be so fucking negative is beyond me. I find it quite hard to bear your pathetic whining about why a film SHOULDNT be made. If the film comes out and is shit, THEN you can moan about it being made. I am quite stunned that with all the talent in front of and behind the cameras, and the prospect of seeing one of the best loved characters ever grace the screen one last time....you are not salivating, but being so fucking negative. Its DEPRESSING. Indiana Jones is NOT restricted by age... Harrison IS Indy; he'll be playing an older Indy. There IS NO reason whatsoever why a fourth film automatically has to be shit like karate kid 4. And in the unlikely event that all these talented men fuck up the film, then we will STILL have the other 3, it wont "tarnish" them at all. All you naysayers will be first in line with the rest of us when the film comes out, so why dont you all do us a favour and FUCK OFF?! (I'm sorry to be so rude but you people stagger me...actually I'm not sorry....fuck off twice)
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ME - Okay Ford, you stand over there. Kate, you stand here. Okay, now I need you two to, you know, do something. - STEVEN SPIELBERG - Hey Billy, have you got a minute? - ME - Lay off my fucking back Spielberg, I know exactly what I'm doing. Now Harrison, I need you to say something clever. Say something funny, something like Buzz Maverik would write. Maverik was stealing my pills so I had to fire his ass. So we're just gonna have to wing it a little. HARRISON FORD - Fuckin'... Blech! - ME - That's great Harrison. Just do that. Now, lights, camera, action! - HARRISON FORD - Talent, you little... (coughs violently, spits out a long string of blood and tar colored phlegm.) - ME - Okay, cut! That's gold. Hey Ford, remember in 'Witness', when you buried that guy alive under all of that corn? That was awesome! Let's do that to Short Round! - HARRISON FORD - Ack. Hunh? Yeah, sure, whatever you say Ridley. Fuckin' son of a bitch. - ME -What was that Harrison? - HARRISON FORD - Hunh? I said it's sunny and you're rich. Dirty fucking... - ME - Okay great, let's do it then. - STEVEN SPIEBERG - Hey Billy, I'm not sure if this is gonna work out. - ME - Oh, okay. But I get to keep all the money, right? - STEVEN SPIELBERG - Oh yeah, sure. I've got plenty of money. Take as much as you like. - ME - Thanks Steven, I've always maintained that the world owed me a living. - EPILOGUE - Billy Talent spent the rest of his years drinking, eating bacon double cheeseburgers and poutine, smoking cigs, getting stoned, and watching Eliza Dushku and Kirsten Dunst wash his car in their underwear, all on Uncle Steven's dime.
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ME - Okay Ford, you stand over there. Kate, you stand here. Okay, now I need you two to, you know, do something. - STEVEN SPIELBERG - Hey Billy, have you got a minute? - ME - Lay off my fucking back Spielberg, I know exactly what I'm doing. Now Harrison, I need you to say something clever. Say something funny, something like Buzz Maverik would write. Maverik was stealing my pills so I had to fire his ass. So we're just gonna have to wing it a little. HARRISON FORD - Fuckin'... Blech! - ME - That's great Harrison. Just do that. Now, lights, camera, action! - HARRISON FORD - Talent, you little... (coughs violently, spits out a long string of blood and tar colored phlegm.) - ME - Okay, cut! That's gold. Hey Ford, remember in 'Witness', when you buried that guy alive under all of that corn? That was awesome! Let's do that to Short Round! - HARRISON FORD - Ack. Hunh? Yeah, sure, whatever you say Ridley. Fuckin' son of a bitch. - ME -What was that Harrison? - HARRISON FORD - Hunh? I said it's sunny and you're rich. Dirty fucking... - ME - Okay great, let's do it then. - STEVEN SPIEBERG - Hey Billy, I'm not sure if this is gonna work out. - ME - Oh, okay. But I get to keep all the money, right? - STEVEN SPIELBERG - Oh yeah, sure. I've got plenty of money. Take as much as you like. - ME - Thanks Steven, I've always maintained that the world owed me a living. - EPILOGUE - Billy Talent spent the rest of his years drinking, eating bacon double cheeseburgers and poutine, smoking cigs, getting stoned, and watching Eliza Dushku and Kirsten Dunst wash his car in their underwear, all on Uncle Steven's dime.
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Someone already beat me to the slander of such a ridiculous and blatant plot error, but I wanted to point out another ignorant feature of your erroneos post. you said that Indy wouldn't have aged from his immortality. Do you recall that the crusader knight was old and frail from his years guarding the grail? So much so that he could not counter the 'challenge' from Indy. The movie makes clear that while you will never die, you do not have everlasting youth. But since Indy doesn't have immortality, this point doesn't even matter, does it. Please think before you post completely un-educated plot points on a movie website. forgive me for laughing.
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I may be slightly sceptical of the idea of Indy 4, but I think he could pull it off nicely.
And I would sincerely like to know what people have against older folks in general and older people in action films specifically.
Clint Eastwood, Harrison Ford, and many others have been able to believably portray characters of advanced age in dangerous situations, and they have done well.
What about Sam Eliot as Gen. Thunderbolt Ross in The Hulk?
It seems that some young punks equate age with inability, yet they totally forget that with age comes experience.
And Tarl Calbot, do you really think you would have a chance in hell to even get near Harrison Ford without being shot, let alone kick his ass in a fair fight? You gotta be kidding me!!
Brooklyn? Never heard of it.
Punk -
*sigh*
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May 08, 2002 9:01:17 PM CDT
Is it me or has this site become over run with angry teenagers?
by aquafresh
Listen you soulless, Limp Bizkit lovin' teenage retards, get the fuck off this site so the adults can have civil discussions about movies. I've noticed a recent influx of new names, many of which sling angry bullshit at everyone while extolling the virtues of Slpiknot. YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE. Thank god most of you will never leave your parents home's in Orange County, or whatever whitebread suburb you mope around in. Go back to playing Metal Gear Solid, jacking off, or whatever and quit wasting my time. Oh, yeah, & Indiana Jones4....ummm, sure. If you say so.
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Ok Raiders was one of the greatest films I have ever seen.
Now having said that...the next 2 were some of the saddest attempts of film I have ever seen. Lets nip this one in the bud now...PLEASE for the Love of all that is cool.
Temple of Doom sucked.
Last Crusade was lame..the character of Jones senior was just plain stupid. Maybe it was too corny for me..but it took to much off the fact that Indy is suposed to be a badass. -
I vote for the skinny white guy from ROAD TRIP, D.J. Qualls, to play Indy in the fourth installment! He also should play Bruce Banner in THE HULK!
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The talkbacker who suggested Ben Who-Flack or Brad-The-Pitts (or that actor who played young Indy on TV, for that matter) as Indy's son is onto something. A three-generations drama could work. It takes the pressure off a nearly 60-year-old actor who is not looking any younger. And face it, Ford is not nearly enough of an actor to pull off the roles Connery, a superb ham, has been doing in his old age. Imagine Ford replacing Connery role in THE ROCK II, for instance.
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If I am not mistaken, he stays young as long as he doesn't cross the seal in that building. Since he did, then all bets are off. I think that is true.
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Of course I'll forgive you for laughing... the fact that you are a wanker is something else entirely. Like I said I haven't seen the movie for a while.
As to your other eloquent point - sure the knight had aged, but he'd been there for a thousand or so years as well. So I imagined that the immortality would greatly retard the aging process, much like you being dropped on your head as a kid retarded your social skills. -
May 08, 2002 9:55:37 PM CDT
I love how the TBs always polarise into to distinct camps very q
by rain_dog
and there's never any room for middle ground. You like SW, or LOTR, and now you can either like movies with old guys in them, or movies with young guys. I'm not even going to into the myriad reasons why both of these arguments are absurd and pointless. Personally, I don't give two shits about this film cause I never really got into Indy in the first place. Not naysaying, just saying it never did it for me. And yes, I am young, but Unforgiven is great, and I'd give my left nut to see DKR on the screen. I think the problem people are having with this is the possibility that they won't deal appropriately with Indy's age (let's face it, Harrison Ford hasn't exactly come to grips with the fact that he's not 35 anymore), and he'll still be running around under tanks swinging over cliffs with a bullwhip and shit. If they do it DKR or Unforgiven style, where the advancing years of the lead characters are explicitly dealt with by the script, fine. The Unforgiven comparison doesn't really hold up anyway, because all Clint did was ride a horse and fire a gun (albeit with deadly speed and accuracy); there were no Indy-style heroics. The other perfectly reasonable issue people have with this is that Indy is an iconic character, and seeing him as an old man would be, to say the least, disillusioning. If you disagree, fine, but it really is a matter of opinion. Also, Connery actually appears to be in better condition that Ford these days. The people saying he doesn't look anywhere near sixty obviously didn't watch Golden Globes. He may have looked younger than his years in Six Days Seven Nights, but he sure is looking his age now. All you guys with your "old men rock, Spidey and Frodo are queers" really need to calm down. No-one is being ageist, their just saying why they don't think this movie is a good idea. Finally, Ocho, I've been reading the talkbacks for years, and hardly say you're a key presence here. Don't get all snooty like you run the fucking place.
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"Atta Boy Luther!'s" attitude is exactly why bad movies get made. Yeah, we may not have a right to the characters but we also have a right to not watch garbage and to call it such when we see it. As to INDY IV--no, I don't think Ford's age is an issue if handled right. Sure, set the thing in the late '40's, early '50's, that would work. But please for the love of god--no aliens. The "alien conspiracy/government coverup" thing is *so* very played out. Go with the Atlantis idea instead, or yeah, be daring and do something involving Islam, mayhap centered around the Kaaba. And I REALLY like the idea of a KINGDOM COME movie--but not live action, because frankly I think it would cost too damn much to really give it the treatment it deserves. Instead, go with an anime. Get Katsuhiro
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Well said indeed! The perfect way for the everyman's hero to go out is like, well...EVERY MAN. Which is to say, he lifes his life, His natural life. We'll love him even more as we wax nostalgic...
Then maybe one of these fanboys will channel all that creative juice that they normally spill over Kirsten Dunst's MAXIM spread, and write a NEW hero into existence... -
Preemptive strike, you see. Also, I meant *I'd* hardly say you were key presence here. Damn my chubby little bratwurst hands and my cavalier attitude towards proofreading.
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"Sorry Dr. Jones, no time for pills!" Seriously though, Indy 4 could work. Why not? Indy's never been a superhero. The filmmakers have gone to great lengths to make him an everyman, which is probably part of his appeal. He gets his ass kicked and he still gets up again. He screws up sometimes, he doesn't always win, his dad yells at him. But he gets the job done. And like every man, he gets older. And maybe he still kicks ass. Maybe this script will have a bit less action, maybe not. So what if H. Ford is a bit older. I had no problem believing Connery in Indy 3. But the film will suffer without Marcus Brody. He was great. As for that Douglas Slocombe post, Speilberg's been consistently going with Janusz Kaminski since Schindler's List, so I would assume that would continue. On the flying saucer script: I read it a few years ago, from what I remember it was ok. With a polish by a GOOD screenwriter (no David Koepp, I'm not talking to you, you bastard) maybe it could work. If Jeffrey Boam was still around, he probably could have done this project some good. George needs to get his head out of his ass and send Lawrence Kasdan a dozen roses. If not for Indy 4, for Ep. 3. All this buddy cop Jedi dialogue in the Ep. 2 trailers is beginning to annoy me. I swear, if I hear Yoda say to Mace Windu, "Getting too old for this shit I am," I will leave the theater and not return. Oh my goodness, I've gotten off topic...This party's over!
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I wasn't crazy about either "Doom" or "Last Crusade" but I think Tom is a gifted and brillant writer so I hope things work out well. I just wonder if David Mamet is going to be asked to pen "Spider-man 2". It would probably be like the juicy lines Joss Whedon gave "X-Men", except for the fact that they either removed them from the film or Halle butchered it.
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Like the name, Dyslexic Heart. You're right about Halle butchering Whedon's dialogue. The infamous 'same thing that happens to everything else' line was supposed to be an off-the-cuff, over-the-shoulder-as-Storm walked-away remark, said with a shrug. It wasn't meant to sound like Moses delivering the ten commandments. If it'd been read as intended, it would've been a pretty good one liner.
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This film sounded like a good idea when I first heard about it in 1994, and Frank Marshall was going to direct it(OK, that part didn't sound so good). But after all this time, don't you think it's time to give it a rest? This realease date of 2004 sounds like a load of crap, since Lucas will still be working on Episode 3 by then, Spielberg has at least two more movies lined up after Catch Me If You Can, and Ford is also probably committed to another film at that time. Face it, this film will wind up with a similar fate to either: (A) Planet of the Apes, which went through about ten years in development, five directors and ten scripts before we got last summer's crapfest as a result, or (B) The long-delayed Arnold vehicle Crusade, which just sat around in development hell for God only knows how many years before it was completely forgotten.
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WHOOP - a new Indy flick!!! Unlike most of you posers who say that they will not be there or that Mr. Ford is too old to be Indy, I will be in line for this one - wtf, Ford was 39 for Indy, 42 for Temple, and 47 for Crusade - and looked craggier in each one - so why the hell can't he play Indy at 60? Bububut my childhood Icons are supposed to stay that way - horseshit. Its a freaking movie you looser bastards. Get up off your asses, quit reading that Gor bullshit and go out and get a fucking life. Some of the best heros out there have been older ones - Ben Kenobi would have sucked as a 30 year old but at 60 works in Star Wars - Gandolf as a 20 year old? please - even Tarl Cabot ages as the books go on and isn't the young callow character he starts out as. Real characters develop and age as time goes on, just like humans do - sure it would be nice if hollywood would get out of this remake phase, but hey you pays your money and takes what you gets - if you dont like it, don't see the movie five or six times to inflate the box office so you can post about what a suckwad pos it is.
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Forgot the best cragy, grouchy, crotchity old one eyed old bastard of all times - ROOSTER mother fucking COGBURN. John Wayne was making your mothers panties wet when he was in his late sixites and you were nothing but a pipe dream.
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With the possibility of Indy4 happening sooner than we think, the new wave will be indy gear. Trust me. Com visit us at:
www.indyfan.com/forum
and
www.indygear.com (Club Obi-wan forum link)
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May 09, 2002 2:22:22 AM CDT
This can really go one of two ways - Lucas or Spielberg - both c
by theginger twit
Lucas may want to shoot on video and have the whole thing digital effects. Spielberg may bend to that whim, but he may not,but even if he don't, then he sure as hell will be into the huge effects. Personally, i hope ILM takes the time to make the effects look just as cheesy as they do in the original movies. That's what making another Indianna jones film is all about!!!!!
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The check is cleared and earning interest in the Caymans. I've got the Purdy shotgun Steven bought me (he has a collection of them himself, so I've heard) and am enjoying some skeet shooting at Boog Mercer's club, which I drive to in the Chevy Suburban that Lucasfilm bought me, which came packed with Cuban cigars. And Kathleen Kennedy has already spent a weekend babysitting my pitbull Peckinpaugh while I took the fam to Big Sur...and the best part is, I don't have to do any more work. Irrelephantcy is the way to go! Plus, Billy's script sounds much better than mine would have been any day!
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HARRISON FORD: Hey man, have you got a smoke? - GEORGE LUCAS: Yeah, I've got a smoke. Have you got twenty five cents? - (Ford digs through his pockets, searching for a quarter.) - HARRISON FORD: That bitch said she needed change to do laundry. I don't get it? We have a washer and dryer, and staff. - GEORGE LUCAS: Don't fuck with me Travolta! - HAARISON FORD: What did you say? - GEORGE LUCAS: I said get the fuck outta my way pretty boy, I've got history to make!
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May 09, 2002 4:30:39 AM CDT
The problem I see is not so much with Ford's age per se...
by st.buggering
It's with the time having passed in history. With World War II long over, there's not much historically happening in terms of grand adventure. Compared to the Nazis, what does the 50's have to offer? Commies? I just don't see a lot of opportunity. Hopefully, they'll surprise me. But what I do NOT want to see is Indy stuck in the same era, and us expected to ignore the passage of time.
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I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that thinks Indy 4 is not the best idea. Unless there's a third generation Jones and the two old timers are there for guidance and moral support. Just a thought.
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1. It would make the movie more suited to young viewers.
2. It would keep the whole family theme going "Dad! I came here to rescue you!!" "And I came to rescue MY Dad!!" "Indy, he's just like you!" "No he's not, he's like you!" etc.
3. He would effectivly be playing his brother's son. There's a continuity there.
4. He's funny enough.
IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN THOUGH BECAUSE JOAQUIN WOULD NEVER ASSOCIATE HIMSELF WITH THIS PIECE OF SHITE CONCEPT!!! -
Who is directing this?
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May 09, 2002 5:47:21 PM CDT
Captain Katanga: It's not bullshit to not want to see a 60 y
by tarl_cabot
It's not bullshit to not want to see Indy 4. I love Indy 1-2 but I don't want my "childhood raped again" with another shitty sequel to something I hold dear that we all know will never be as good as the first film! Does being a fan of Indy or Terminator..etc mean you should be thrilled anytime some middle aged to senior citizen actor wants to lure you back to the multiplex like a sheep in order to get a nice pay day? Don't you feel somewhat used or exploited? They should have made Indy 3 in '87 and 4 in '90 but Ford thought he was too mature for popcorn movies and decided to churn out shit for the last 12 years. And now he wants another shot at Indy 'cause the new breed of executives in Hollywood just can't justify that monster salary anymore unless he lures the saps and the pushovers back into the theater in droves. He can't afford any more bombs like "Random Hearts" and remain a mega star. I loved temple of Doom but it was inferior to the first film-still better than anything else? yes. The third was just plain bad; lousy score, fake looking sets, cheeseball villians, stupid father-son banter and contrived action scenes and 15 minutes wasted on the spielberg fettish/love affair with children by giving us River Pheonix as Indy for the prologue...I waited 5 years for Indy 3 and I get to watch a kid play Indy for what was traditionally the best part of the movie.
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That temple in Syria where the Holy Grail was hidden was used in a low budget '70's Sinbad movie-I couldn't get over that! That movie cut corners right and left. I hated that fact that it took place at the end in a ficticious country too...And the thought of Connery banging that young blonde too was just gross. And a 15 year old Indy can identify any artifact and know it's origins..etc? Lame!
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Yes, the temple at the end of Last Crusade was used in a Sinbad movie in the seventies. But it wasn't built for that, it was built about 1500-2000 years ago, you fucking moron. Just further proof that no one today is paying attention to history.
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I obviously dont run the place, & don't know what being a "key presence" in the talkbacks would entail. That being said, I get frustrated with the amount of juevenile posts I have to sift through to get to the well thought out ones. & if they are entitled to spew thier bile, then I'm entitled to respond to it. I hope to God the posters in question are teenagers, 'cause otherwise the REALLY have no excuse. Sorry if I come off as a snob. Maybe you are a teenager, & thats why it stuck in your craw. If you are a teen who listens to Tom Waits, you can't be that bad. His two new albums are pretty decent. Definitley see him if he tours. See, he's an old guy, & he still kicks ass. Maybe there's hope for Indy yet.
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May 09, 2002 10:21:48 PM CDT
connery would be a baddie in JB, but he'll do this??????????
by slicko99
ok..... isnt Sean Connery only, like 15 years older than Harrison Ford?
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May 10, 2002 12:15:51 AM CDT
Steel_cultist: I didn't say the temple was built for the Sin
by tarl_cabot
I said it was already USED in a low budget Sinbad movie-not built for-and seemed like a cheap alternative to building a set for the grail's resting place. The last two Indy's had built convincing sets; this one, I never believe the actors weren't in a studio most of the time. In fact, I was familiar with that temple when I saw the film and knew it was in Syria and therefore the fact that that last part of the movie took place in a ficticious country took me out of the movie. The Indy films like to convey a sense of culture and sophistication and so that obvious laziness and presumption of the audience's ignorance really caught me attention. But that's a minor detail really. the movie just sucked. Period.
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May 10, 2002 12:17:53 PM CDT
TARL CABOT: thank god people like you are in the minority!
by captain katanga
if you are so narrow minded that you cant see this as anything other than a cynical attempt to cash in; if you cannot see what a massive opportunity there is here to make a classic, then I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU. The fact is that every classic film lucas, spielberg and ford have ever made have been attempts to make money; making money and making great films are NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE! JESUS!
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his comedic prescence that made the first three movies so sweet will be sorely missed. In fact, I remember my friend and I remarking, upon hearing of DE's death, that that was the end of the 'Indiana Jones' series.
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his comedic prescence that made the first three movies so sweet will be sorely missed. In fact, I remember my friend and I remarking, upon hearing of DE's death, that that was the end of the 'Indiana Jones' series.
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The first one was a masterpiece. The second was a very satisfying sequel (but not as good as the first) and the third was a major let down.It's been my movie going experience that The trend of progressively worsening sequels seems to happen to most(or all) franchises and that's why I'm pessimistic about Indy 4.I'd like the image of Indy as a man in his late 30's-mid 40's to remain undisturbed-an icon. Watching Shatner play Kirk at 63 was just awful-he went to the well too many times. Shitty sequels are the norm and not the exception.I just can't get fired up about Indy 4. 10 years ago I would have killed to see it in hopes that it would improve upon the last one. Now, I think too much time has passed. Anyway, I think people in this society can't face the reality about aging-especially in Hollywood; Everyone wants to be young, fit and sexy forever. People get surgery, take pills, work out 8 hours a day...Life should be a series of passages-we should age with dignity and not try to cling to our youth so desparately and embarrass ourselves in the process.The shit that Indy did and what made him so cool just would not work as a 60 year old-Sorry, but it just won't be the same. That doesn't mean Clint Eastwood wasn't a God in "Unforgiven". But he was not playing Indiana Jones... I won't be first in line. I may catch it at a matinee if Moriarty gives it a great review. I trust him.
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The "Indiana Jones and the Nursing Home of Doom". Anyway I have no problem with him being old. Lucas and Spielberg have both said they want his age to be an issue and for the film to be similar to Sean Connery's classic film "Robin and Marion" which dealt with Robin Hood getting old. Except Indy of course wouldn't die since we know he lives to be at least 94 (old Indy rocked, I hated when they dumped him). Of course if you haven't seen "Robin and Marion"..... SHAME ON YOU! GO RENT IT NOW!
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Tarl Cabot is 100% RIGHT. Read my earlier posts on the subject. Nothing more needs to be said. You can't believe how negative we are? I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT A FUCKING PUNTER YOU ARE. Why are you in denial? Why are you coming out with ridiculous comparisons like Clint in Unforgiven? NOTHING TO DO WITH FORD MAKING INDY 4. CLINT WAS PLAYING AN OLD MAN. THAT WAS THE PART. INDIANA JONES IS NOT OLD,HE IS A DYNAMIC, KINETIC, ENERGETIC MAN WHO IS CAPABLE OF A PHYSICALITY WHICH DEFINES HIM. Do you understand that? It DEFINES him. A 60 year-old man playing such a physical, compelling character IS A FUCKING FARCE YOU MORON. Jesus. I can't believe you want our image of Indiana Jones reduced to a man either a) trying and FAILING to look dynamic and fit or b) settling for an obvious stuntman in distnace shots. Ford is not the megastar he used to be. He knows that as much as you or I do. He is making this in a (futile) attempt to regain his box-office supremacy, increase his visiblity and line his already fat pocket with another 30 Mill. EXACTLY THE SAME AS A CERTAIN AUSTRIAN EX-BODYBUILDER IS DOING. Arnie making Terminator III is another perfect example of this syndrome. He is AN OLD FART. Its like Richard Hatch pitching Battlestar Galactica to the studios and getting all pissed because they don't want him. He can't let go of the fact that he was once attractive, yojng and popular. LET IT GO RICHARD. YOU ARE OLD AND CHUBBY MATE. Harrsion Ford was amazing at his peak. Amazing. He is central to two of the trilogies I hold most dear. But give it up Harrison. Leave us with the memories.
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May 10, 2002 8:52:17 PM CDT
Sergio: Thanks for the back up! Drinks on me-Cheers! Katanga:J
by tarl_cabot
Although I think most of Harrison Ford's movies since Temple of Doom suck...A true fan of a character/film franchise wants to see the actor (s) who play the role(s) to DO IT/Them JUSTICE and not embarrass themselves! Sean Connery in "Entraptment" was ridiculous! "Mad TV" did a hachett job on him that made me cringe! I'm the biggest Bond geek and I was seriously saddend and embarrased for him-to see the once coolest man on earth become a laughing stock of is something I wouldn't wish on anyone...We never wanted to see William Shatner play kirk as a 63 year old man even if he "dealt with his age" and repeatedly commented on his over the hill condition and inability to do the things he did before that made him so endearing in the first place!! "I'm too old for this shit"! ha ha ha!! Just fucking retire already! Don't waste our time and spoil fond memories that we'll share with future generations. Have some Fucking dignity Harrison!!!!!!
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May 10, 2002 9:11:40 PM CDT
Harrison ford: People magazine's sexiest man alive 1999-LOL
by tarl_cabot
Even my Mom and my sisters, who used to drool over him, thought that was funny.
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I'm with a lot of you - Indy 4, with Harrison Ford and especially with Sean Connery is a dumb idea. They are too old for an action film. I've had a strange idea for a long time, but I think it's a good one. Why didn't they recast Indy, like they did James Bond? I think Dennis Quaid would have made the perfect replacement. He's about 10 or so years younger than Ford, so it would have worked in the 90s, but maybe not today. He's always had a striking resemblance to Ford and he's got his own unique type of charisma.
If they recast Indy, they could keep the stories set in the 30s and 40s, where they belong - not in the 1960s - that's not what Indiana Jones is about.
Don't let the casting of Harrison Ford dictate the story!
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