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1st Pics from RED DRAGON - see young Lecter!
Hey folks, Harry here... Just got these two images in from Brett Ratner's version of Thomas Harris' RED DRAGON. The screenplay by Ted Tally was exceptional (Click Here For Quint's Review. The casting has been perfection. Will Ratner blow us all away? Well, we'll have to wait and see, but both of these images are rather striking. Can't wait to see more! Here ya go...
Thanks goes to THX for the pics!
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That makeup isn't working
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Wow I hope they do this right. I think it is the best of Harris' novels
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Apr 26, 2002 7:05:36 PM CDT
One thing "Silence" wasn't was sadisdic. Same could be said
by ralph cifaretto
Hannibal, however...The shot of the human face, eaten out like a mellon? & the SIGHT, not the implication, of a dog eating Oldman's face. Uncool, IMO.
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By the by, just saw The Man Who Wasn't There. Quite possibly the Coens's strangest film. Good though. I think.
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We will see if Ratner can pull off a big flick without the ghetto humor and asian persuasion and rather with Zorro's daddy.
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It's gonna blow as hard as the last two.
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Apr 26, 2002 7:26:26 PM CDT
MANHUNTER MUCH?! AM I WRONG OR DID HANNIBUL SUCKED?! Jodie Foste
by chuckrussel
YEAH!
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It's Ralph Fiennes as the tooth fairy who will make or break this movie. Let's see some stills of him in action!
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You can't make an old guy look younger...how far back before Silence is this supposed to be again?
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Apr 26, 2002 7:51:02 PM CDT
What can I say? Hannibal was better than Silence of the Lambs.
by kdraines
Flame away. I don't care. Anthony Hopkins ham-fisted theatrics in silence will never eclipse Brian Cox's cool and creepy Hannibal. And it will always remain a desperate remake of Manhunter to me.
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I think this movie will be pretty cool and will tie in better with Hannibal and Silence of the Lambs better than Manhunter does. I thought it was a great book, better than Silence of the Lambs and Hannibal in a lot of ways.
I am skeptical about how they will pull off Hopkins looking younger, too. It is one think to make him look young in a photograph but it is a whole other story to see him act and move around in makeup designed to make him look younger.
Ralph Fiennes as the Tooth Fairy?! I hadn't heard that. The TF from Manhunter was thoroughly freaky. It will be interesting to see how Fiennes can pull it off.
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Aww yeah, muthafucka... Maybe I'm alone on this one... but I loved Manhunter AND Silence AND kinda dug HANNIBAL... I don't discriminate. I don't really think that you have to hate one to like another. Am I alone here? They were all good. And I'm damned well hoping this one will be too... Keep the dream alive! Peace out.
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someone please fill me in
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...that Ratner will be able to pull this movie off.
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lecter got him all whacked up on goofballs and had him cut off his own face with a piece of broken glass then feed it to his dogs. I guess that's the sort of thing that'll piss a dude off.
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http://www.dvdfile.com/news/special_report/art_of_the_special_edition/lauzirika_charles/2.html
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Apr 26, 2002 8:59:45 PM CDT
Anyone else think YOUNG Lecter looks kind of like OLD Lecter...
by burlivesleftnut
Man I just adore Anthony Hopkins. I can't wait to see this here movin' picture.
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I guess you haven't heard... Chris and Jackie ARE in this movie. Its going to be zany, madcap serial killer fun! Wait until you behold the scene where Jackie does his patented prop-fu with all of Lecter's implements of torture! You will bust a gut! Bwaha.
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Apr 26, 2002 9:34:04 PM CDT
For those who can't enjoy "Manhunter" just b/c Brian Cox pla
by triumph the dog
...rather than remake a brilliant movie with "Hack" Ratner, why not--if we are so damn desperate to put Hopkins in the movie based "Red Dragon" (and there's no REAL reason to be)-- let Michael Mann and Hopkins loose at ILM and digitally insert a young Hopkins into the scenes where Brian Cox once stood? As good as Cox was it would still be a better solution than this stupid and pointless remake.
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Silence of the Lambs was definately a superior film to Hannibal. That being said, I though Hannibal was unfairly maligned. Was it more graphic? Of course; that's a sign of the times. But consider, that the entire time during Silence, Lecter was able to exert incredible influence through sheer force of personality and will. Knowing that he is a psychopath, the question at the end of the film then because "What is he capable of outside, and what happens when attempts are made to catch him?" I thought Hannibal answered these questions well.
Lecter would have been perfectly happy to sit out the remainder of his life in that Neapolitan library, but when he was pursued, he did not run, he attacked, and became the dark figure we all knew was there. His infatuation (or obsession) with Starling was well done, and the lengths to which he clearly went for her were truly frightening. That's what Lecter was, a normal man who's responses to certain situations were extreme. With Verger his disdain for his lifestyle became an exercise in pain and humiliation. With Detective Pazzi, his desire to remain a free man became a preemptive strike against those who would imprison him. And with Starling, his love and desire to protect her from harm, turned into a homicidal revenge on her behalf. Hannibal illustrated quite well, I thought, what results from an extreme personality, and I found it interesting the was that Lecter described Starling as a rolling pigeon, as in truth so was he. The fact is that he was changed by his imprisonment, but when faced with the possibility of new incarceration, and the failure of the one woman he truly loves and repects his roller nature came out. He took every risk to the brink of destruction before escaping, and would do it again. -
When I see a movie adapted from a book, I like to see the themes carry over. I don't mind if a director riffs on them here and there, putting his own fingerprint on them, but the themes-- the one in broad strokes-- have to be intact. That is why I was bothered by the ending of Hannibal. The idea that Clarice was too morally superior to give into Hannibal's lifestyle bugged me because that was counter to everything that was explored in the book. The whole purpose of that book was to call into question what was insane behavior, what was right and wrong. It showed how someone with strong convictions and a secure moral compass could alter her entire perception of reality when she falls for a cannibal and is betrayed by every institution she believed in. But when Clarice is strong enough to resist the temptation of leaving Hannibal, the movie did more than leave its own mark on the material-- it changed the very purpose and point of the story. That bugs me.
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Whut the fuck happened to them dayz when shit was on stank and this fly beef did nothin' but flip when the flames charred and the charts topped. We've come along way son, but that ain't the half of it. Cocaine is what I luv, I will deal it, I will marry it! Fuck Silence of the Lambs! Fuck it them lambs I say! Keep solid. Peace from the other land.
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i'm really looking forward to this one. "Silence" is one of my favourite movies of all time. it's one of the greatest contemporary pictures ever made, if you ask me. Hannibal, although nowhere near as good as Silence, is still a great amount of fun. and for those who didn't like Hannibal, IT REALLY HELPS TO READ THE BOOK. the book is phenomenal, one of my favourite reads of all time. upon first viewing of Hannibal, i dismissed the movie as "crap." but after falling in love with Ridley, reading the book, then revisiting the movie, i've discovered a whole new angle on the film. and of course, as usual, Hans Zimmer's score is fantastic.
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That's a 60's joke.
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Apr 26, 2002 10:57:29 PM CDT
To the poster who complained of inconsistant themes vis a vis Mo
by carson dyle
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Apr 26, 2002 11:48:45 PM CDT
Tired of studying the universe, Stephen Hawking decides resolve
by philmaker
That's about as far as I can go with this. These shots are pretty uninteresting, don't you think?
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This looks very promising. Can
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At the end of the book Starling was drugged and "forced" into being with Hannibal, but the final chapter goes on to tell you about the five years after and their lives as a couple. I'm sure he couldn't have kept her drugged for that long. When I read it she came across as a willing partner, actually in love with him.
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At the end of the book Starling was drugged and "forced" into being with Hannibal, but the final chapter goes on to tell you about the five years after and their lives as a couple. I'm sure he couldn't have kept her drugged for that long. When I read it she came across as a willing partner, actually in love with him.
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At the end of the book Starling was drugged and "forced" into being with Hannibal, but the final chapter goes on to tell you about the five years after and their lives as a couple. I'm sure he couldn't have kept her drugged for that long. When I read it she came across as a willing partner, actually in love with him.
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Yup, can't remember what menu, but I'm sure its a background or something - on at least the region 2 DVD........
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Apr 27, 2002 4:47:55 AM CDT
to the poster who said 'Hannibal' was the worst film of
by jesus q einstein
....i agree 100%. Pompous, overlong, unexciting. I like Hopkins, but thought he camped it up to ridiculous extremes in 'Hannibal'. "Ta ta, Clarice", etc, etc. Red Dragon may well be a lot better (I think the story is pretty solid), but the same questions apply to this as to other remakes of perfectly acceptable films- Why bother? We all know the story. Do these things ever turn out better than (or even on a par with) the originals? Hardly ever. Incidently, am i correct or didn't Harry call Hannibal the greatest unrequited love story since Bride Of Frankenstein in his original review? Now THAT'S hyperbole!
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I'm surprise that no ones mentioned that these images showed up on other sites weeks ago, maybe the site should be called aintitoldnews.com
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Apr 27, 2002 10:32:58 AM CDT
The definitive posting on this issue. You can stop posting afte
by jrcash
First of all - HANNIBAL the book, unlike HANNIBAL the film, made sense of Hannibal's behavior, shed light into how Hannibal became what he is, and explained the ending more fully. Yes, Clarice was drugged. THAT was why she was with Hannibal. It makes sense. The film, a travesty of greedy producing...a film which Dino DeLaurentis looked at and said, think how much money I can make, it doesn't even have to be good...a film which doesn't ground Hannibal 's excessive psychopathology in either his childhood, or in the sly references the book makes that Hannibal may have animal abilities, like smell and scent, the film was stupid. Clarice, who was all over the Mid-Atlantic getting her career on in Silence of the Lambs, spends the film telling off her superiors in an office, sitting behind a desk, and drugged. They should have let Callie Khouri, Penelope Spheeris, or that woman who did American Psycho (Mary Herron?) do the screenplay or direct.
Unlike SOTL, which made significant contributions to its genre, and has been ripped off a dozen times since, Hannibal was pulp.
Hopkins can still be scary - that's the director's job. Hannibal stabbing someone in the femural artery in the street is sly, but it's not scary. It could have been better. The closeups, the bars, the face tilted sightly down, those were scary. And once again, Ardelia Mapp was totally ignored as a character. And Frankie Faison as Barney was TOTALLY underused.
As for Brett Ranter - this is just further proof that Dino DeLaurentis has nothing to say. He wants to have more millions of dollars. He wants to have big stunts and flashy visuals, but nothing to say. I feel sorry for Brett Ratner. He gets no love from the net, but he really needs to prove himself. How did he ever get money from Steven Spielberg to stay in film school? Where is the proof he even went to film school? I'd be willing to give Mr. Ratner some pointers on this film, and I'm a graduate student in a totally unrelated field.
But the real psychopath here is DeLaurentis. Perhaps some young startlet is blackmailing him about a sexual problem, and he has to pay her? Or perhaps a young man is blackmailing him? He can't possibly think he's adding anything to the world through this film not already in Manhunter. It better be good.
Of course I'll be there on opening weekend anyway, but star power isn't going to carry this film alone. With The Score, Edward Norton proved he doesn't care THAT much about script, (though he will ALWAYS have street cred for FIGHT CLUB. He RULES!) and as far as Ralph Fiennes, I'd rather see the new Cronenberg film. If Ratner can focus on faces instead of stunts, than maybe this will be halfway good.
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Apr 27, 2002 10:51:32 AM CDT
I didn't like "Hannibal" the book, but at least I remember h
by zakchase
Yes, Clarise is drugged. But she's also hypnotized -- put into a kind of trance by Lector. And the only thing that can stap her out of it is
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Apr 27, 2002 10:52:54 AM CDT
I hated "Hannibal" the book, but at least I remember the ending
by zakchase
Yes, Clarice is drugged. But she's also hypnotized -- put in a kind of trance by Lector. The only way she can wake up is to hear a crossbow string played at a specific pitch. THAT was the cliffhanger.
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Awww, you fuckers. I understand you have the right to your opinions, but if you didn't understand the movie, please stop talking about it. Hannibal, the movie, was all about Lecter's love for Clarice. It wasn't about Lecter getting fed to pigs or Clarice trying to catch him! It was about the very REASON he came out of hiding in the first place - for her.
All the references to Dante in the movie are a metaphor for his feelings for Clarice. Watch it again with that in mind.
Hannibal was a flawed film.. They handled Mason Verger all wrong IMHO, we really needed Jodie Foster back.. But Hannibal was an even more fully flawed novel. The idea that Clarice would ever become the willing lover of Hannibal, drugs or no drugs, betrays the character's personality entirely. The whole nonsense with Hannibal digging up her dad's bones... Whatever. Barney's love affair with Mason's Nicole Bass-esque sister? Jesus Christ!
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BRIAN COX is Hanibal. His take on the character in the 1st Manhunter FAR exceeded anything that Hopkins has done with the character.
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Apr 27, 2002 12:09:16 PM CDT
I think Clarice STAYS with Hannibal long after the drugs wear of
by chrisk102
Clarice certainly wouldn't have taken that last step in eating brains like she did if she wasn't on drugs, but it is also signifigant that she becomes Hannibal's lover, his female counterpart, long after the drugs wear off. You might remember that Hannibal's old guard, travelling the world, sees them at an opera together. Harris shows that Clarice is now Hannibal's companion, his partner in all things. You are right that she wouldn't have eaten those brains without the extra push, but she ACCEPTS the lifestyle after the fact. Everything she believed in previously had betrayed her. The only one who believed in her, the only one who cared about her, was Hannibal. She was induced into eating brains to get her past that point, like someone who is skydiving and needs to be pushed off a plane because they can't make that last step on their own. Clarice had the proverbial parachute on, she was at the age of the door with the wind blowing in her face. Hannibal was the one who pushes her out of the plane, telling her everything will be alright. So I disagree. I think to say that Clarice will revolt against Hannibal is projecting wishful thinking on a book that doesn't indicate anything of the kind. Harris portrays Clarice in that last scene as Hannibal's other half, his soul mate. No doubt about it.
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Apr 27, 2002 12:09:55 PM CDT
I think Clarice STAYS with Hannibal long after the drugs wear of
by chrisk102
Clarice certainly wouldn't have taken that last step in eating brains like she did if she wasn't on drugs, but it is also signifigant that she becomes Hannibal's lover, his female counterpart, long after the drugs wear off. You might remember that Hannibal's old guard, travelling the world, sees them at an opera together. Harris shows that Clarice is now Hannibal's companion, his partner in all things. You are right that she wouldn't have eaten those brains without the extra push, but she ACCEPTS the lifestyle after the fact. Everything she believed in previously had betrayed her. The only one who believed in her, the only one who cared about her, was Hannibal. She was induced into eating brains to get her past that point, like someone who is skydiving and needs to be pushed off a plane because they can't make that last step on their own. Clarice had the proverbial parachute on, she was at the age of the door with the wind blowing in her face. Hannibal was the one who pushes her out of the plane, telling her everything will be alright. So I disagree. I think to say that Clarice will revolt against Hannibal is projecting wishful thinking on a book that doesn't indicate anything of the kind. Harris portrays Clarice in that last scene as Hannibal's other half, his soul mate. No doubt about it.
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Apr 27, 2002 12:11:12 PM CDT
Clarice STAYS with Hannibal long after the drugs wear off, thoug
by chrisk102
Clarice certainly wouldn't have taken that last step in eating brains like she did if she wasn't on drugs, but it is also signifigant that she becomes Hannibal's lover, his female counterpart, long after the drugs wear off. You might remember that Hannibal's old guard, travelling the world, sees them at an opera together. Harris shows that Clarice is now Hannibal's companion, his partner in all things. You are right that she wouldn't have eaten those brains without the extra push, but she ACCEPTS the lifestyle after the fact. Everything she believed in previously had betrayed her. The only one who believed in her, the only one who cared about her, was Hannibal. She was induced into eating brains to get her past that point, like someone who is skydiving and needs to be pushed off a plane because they can't make that last step on their own. Clarice had the proverbial parachute on, she was at the age of the door with the wind blowing in her face. Hannibal was the one who pushes her out of the plane, telling her everything will be alright. So I disagree. I think to say that Clarice will revolt against Hannibal is projecting wishful thinking on a book that doesn't indicate anything of the kind. Harris portrays Clarice in that last scene as Hannibal's other half, his soul mate. No doubt about it.
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Apr 27, 2002 12:14:01 PM CDT
BANNED for saying one of these shots was on Dark Horizons months
by trepannedhole
Posts removed and BANNED for this! A little sensitive, Harry? Dude, if you can't fact-check at least let your talk backers do it for you. Admit when you made a mistake. That's what we all do.
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Gonna ban me again?
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Why make this movie!!! hopkins just wants to look younger and add more cash to his already fat wallet why fuel his already inflated ego if this does not stop the poor man will lose it start writing perscriptions and eating the extras i fear for his sanity and the future of film not to mention the poor familys of countless extras he will devour why not just acknoledge manhunter as 1st in the series and get thomas harris to write a book about hanibal posing as a male nurse in a quiet english village who has to come to terms with clarice dumping him or he could get a chainsaw fitted to his stump and help ash fight off the deadites in evil dead 4 or something. shit thats not a bad idea im off to pitch that one to sam rami
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Apr 27, 2002 2:59:24 PM CDT
I never got the whole Hanibal thing-I think these movies are hor
by tarl_cabot
I can't imagine what people see in these films that make them entertaining; they make me want to puke. Sure Hopkins does a great job but it's just fucking revolting to me watching the carnage and the manner in which it occurs in these movies.But I know I'm in the minority 'cause obviously they make a shitload of money.
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I was expecting the original cast, but there was no Mr. T, Dirk Benedict or Dwight Schultz, and they'd got some hammy English actor to play Hannibal and he didn't even smoke a cigar! They cut out his team, made no mention of Colonel Decker and i didn't see a single jeep turn over or man fly though the air. And what was with Hannibal going around eating people? The crazy fools!
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Hannibal can reasonably be viewed as a piece of shit movie. Because it just DID NOT WORK as a sequel to Silence of the Lambs. It did, however, work famously as a sequel (or at least the rightful heir) to The Abominable Doctor Phibes. "What do you say? Guts in, or guts out? Hmmm, let me decide."
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It was one of the best films of last year and should have been nominated for several Oscars. You friggin fools. Because it was so different from the first, you can't accept it? Unacceptable. Nothing is more annoying than a sea of dumb, scratch that- WRONG opinions. G'day and God bless Ridley Scott.
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what a fuck-up.how can you re-make MANHUNTER?the movie,first of all,is only about 15 years old. #2..it IS a good movie and peterson & mann do just fine.maybe the guy who plays lechter is'nt QUITE in hopkin's league but,hey,he IS the first. #3..hopkin's is what,70? my point is that he is not getting,HELLO,younger.he should play lechter in the future,not circa 1985. #4.. they will probably get some director to fuck it up.no matter HOW good the script is.demme won't do it.same with scott.i do'nt mean to to sound "negitive" but,if it is`nt broken.......
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The best horror movies have always disturbed the masses.
People were horrified by the face of Frankenstein when that was new.
Now that we're more jaded to images of horror, the monsters
(and I use the term loosely) have to go beyond that, and Hannibal is perhaps the best we've had in awhile. Add to that the fact that like many of the classics, the 'monster' is in love with the heroine and risks destruction for her - the irony is just too obvious.
Of course those with weak stomachs
or overly rigid definitions of good and evil are going to be upset/offended/repulsed. Thats what makes it a good horror movie.
The fact that he escapes just makes it better, because rather than destroying the monster to ease the minds of the average movie goer (like harpooning the creature from the black lagoon), the film allows that Hannibal is bright enough and controlled enough to get away.
Best of all is the fact that despite he behaves in a horrific manner, most of the women I know find him a deeply romantic character, even if they close their eyes during parts of the movie.
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...an old fart who can't act for shit. I don't see how people can fall for his non-acting: I can see through it like a pane of glass. Somebody needs to force this guy into retirement.
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Apr 28, 2002 3:24:44 AM CDT
Off Topic, But Harry Doesn't Mention The Death Of Lisa "Lef
by the founder
She is a celebrity, and Harry could have mentioned that she was killed in a car crash thursday, she was after part of the biggest selling female group in history. Shame on you Harry. R.I.P Lisa Lopes!
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Ok, if you've actually READ any of Thomas Harris' books you will be only too aware that Manhunter was the biggest pile of shit the cinemas have ever shown. Lector was the worst thing to ever come out of england and the ending was a joke. Hopkins won't have to do much to make Red Dragon a MUCH MUCH better film.
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One says to the other, "does this taste funny to you?" But seriously, though, folks...I agree with the TalkBacker who finds these films "unpalatable". I didn't laugh once during the 'Silence of the Lambs'. It was even less amusing than 'Seven', and that's saying something. Very depressing indeed. Now, 'Saving Private Ryan' - that's comedy!
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Ed Norton as Graham? C'mon. Graham is supposed to be 40ish burnout not a 30ish uberkind.
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Silence of the lambs has to be THE most overrated film ever considering it's considered a "classic" and is one of only 3 films ever to sweep the oscars.
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I only have two things to say about "Hannibal": It sounded like a Carl's Jr. advertisement which made all the death scenes ridiculously funny to me (everyone in the theater was grossed out, and I sat there giggling). The second thing is that the Director of Photography's comments in American Cinematographer were offensive to me. He basically showed incredibly bad manners by blatantly insulting the (much more effective) work of Jonathan Demme and the DP of "Silence of the Lambs." Read up on it and make up your own minds.
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Apr 28, 2002 9:03:57 PM CDT
harry, your a dummy for posting this without checking it out fir
by gambit800
don't you check this shit out before you post it? pay per clicks down? just kidding... great site otherwise....
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Thats all just dandy, But if only these guys could resist giving this cash cows udders just one more pull. Mybe, try a remake to fix a bad movie instead of picking one of the few hollywood has managed to get right.
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If I watch this film at all, it will be on video with the FF button at the ready. Eek!
I didn't particularly like SOTL, wouldn't even watch Hannibal...But red dragon sounds like an interesting film......good cast, too.
So you never know.
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Apr 29, 2002 2:24:23 PM CDT
Hannibal (book and movie) sucked for one particular reason
by weedymcsmokey
Hannibal was a pretty weak film - not much in the way of psychological terror - which was the hallmark of SOTL - but the biggest stumble made by both Harris and (to a lesser extent) Scott was they tried to humanize Lector, give him grounding and reasoning for his behaviour. Ruined it for me. Lector's charm and what makes us fascinated by him is that we have no idea what makes him tick - how a figure like this could exist. He is beyond our comprehension - his intelligence, his sheer evilness (probably not a word). That was what made him interesting; alluing - he really wasn't human. Explaining how he thinks, and why he does stuff (ergo love for Clarice) shatters the wonderful construction of a charcter that could not be related to - only fascinated by.
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ridly Scott did a commendable job bringing Hannibal to the screen and left off most of the crap that the book ladled on so heavily.
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You guys are retards for not liking Hannibal. I hated silence of the lambs becuase it was stupid but Hannibal was really smart. Hannibal and phantom menace are by far the greatest pictures in all of cinema. I just saw Rashomon and 2001 a space oddysey and Dr. Strangelove and all were complete garbage and shit compared to Hannibal. Rashomon had to be the worst movie I have ever seen in my life. It was in stupid black and white and the characters were dressed in funny clothes and talked weird like they didn't know english. I think they were from lousiana during the depression era or something. That movie blew balls cause they were talking about some death and nobody could get their facts straight. Take my advice and stay the hell away from Rashomon and also stay away from Stanley Kubrick films cause they make no fucking sense! I can't wait for Spiderman and Attack of the clones.. The only question I have is, How come they don't have darth vader the baddest ass in the star wars universe in phantom menace or attack? I mean that guy is so cool. You know what I think will happen in Attack of the clones? I think Anakin will turn to the dark side and maybe he is secretly darth vader in disquise. anyway Scorpion King rocks!
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I still say that Brian Cox's take on the character far exceeded what Anthony Hopkins did with the character. Forget the dated feel about the 1st Manhunter. A lot of the film looks like a Miami Vice video(blame MM.) The scenes between Peterson and Cox are superbly done. They alone are worth the price of the DVD. Hopkins plays Hannibal like he is a superhero. Cox played him like a psychopath. His take is richer and much more believable. With that said, I think that SOTL was a good movie but I wouldn't wipe my bottom with Hannibal. Oh and if you disagree feel free to call me names here but don't send stupid emails to me.
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Those Seven Deadly Dwarfs! Alert everyone from your email contact list! Tell them to FEAR THE DWARVES!!! They Leave you with nothing, not even a Can of beer left over in the fridge. What kind of a sick bitch takes all the beer? They will get you AOL'ers. Seven Deadly Dwarfes!! Ack! Where is a Computer Geek when you need one?
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...is not English. Try again togmeister.
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They are not that striking. I still cannot believe that Anthony Hopkins is in this, it has to be some kind of good make up to make him look younger, how old is he by the way? BTW the 24 Hour Party People Soundtrack ROCKS!!!!
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Damer1 and most of the others. How can you say that Brian Cox is better than Anthony Hopkins? It seems laughable that you can judge their acting together. Isn't it enough that Anthony Hopkins is an international star? How can millions of people be wrong?
There is a little saying that is, "Less is more". Anthony Hopkins' Lecter does less and is seen more as a real person person who could exist. Anthony Hopkins leaves things to the imagination which is far better than having everything held in front of you on a plate.
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Anthony Hopkins is one of the best actors ever. Even in the lame-ass Hearts of Atlantis, he still managed to make the movie watchable. Anybody who says that Tony Hopkins can't act has got to be a biggest moron EVER. I bet your favorite actor is Freddie Prinz JR. OUT!
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would be a good name for an art-punk-noise band. think a mix between Einsturzende Neubauten, Big Black and Abba.******it's a shame that Hannibal sucked so much, otherwise i might be interested in seeing this. Hannibal the book was fantastic and creepy, hannibal the film was little more than Freddy Krueger with better acting. it sucked. too bad: Silence of the Lambs is one of the best horror films ever made and certainly one of the 90s most notable films. Hannibal was, well, it was shit.
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It appears that someone has not even bothered to read the book. Edward Norton is WAY too young to play Graham. Even if I could reconcile the age thing, it would not matter. Remember, we the audience are actually supposed to *like* the Graham character, an even better character than Clarice Starling, as far as I'm concerned. This will be exceedingly difficult to do with Norton playing the investigator. Norton plays jerkwads and losers much better than than he plays heroes.
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Let me respond to your comments. First, International recognition is not realible measure of a person's acting ability. For example, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sly Stallone are both names that are more recognizable worldwide than Sir Anthony. But neither one of us would say that Arnie and Sly are better actors that Hopkins. Secondly, the "less is more" argument brings no bearing to this discussion. Although, in this case, I'd say that Hopkin's take on Hannibal is WAY over the top. Obviously Demme and Scott both wanted Lecter played as the Superman psuedo-villian. That's great if you prefer that. Cox's take was much more human, faulty, and downright creepy. Cox brought Lecter's mental illness to the surface. Watch the scenes between Peterson and Cox. They are absolutely magnificant. In the end I think that Cox was truer to the spirit of the character, at least the character presented in Red Dragon. Please feel free not to send me another email asking me if I like film.
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What the hell?? I didn't send you any email.
I am really suprised that so many people on this site like Brian Cox better though. He did give Lecter the uman touch but to me, that is not scary, that is more like a bloke down the road. Scary is when you can't understand what is up in that presons mind to make them act the way they do. A way that you can't imagine possible. If Lecter rubs his eyes when he wakes up (as Cox did) that just gives me the impression that he is unprepared. Hopkins was standing up when Clarice saw him first. That shows you that he knew she was coming. Thats my two cents. Anyway, lests just agree to disagree.
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The point is that "Manhunter" was a horribly mangled version of the book "Red Dragon" (easily the best book in the series). They couldn't even spell Lecter's name right, let alone make the story work. Not to mention that the characters had all the life bled out of them. In the book, Will Graham was an unbelievably compelling character, much moreso than Clarice Starling. But in "Manhunter," Peterson's Graham is nowhere near as interesting as Foster's Starling was in "Silence of the Lambs." And that ending...God, what trash. This new film is to be a faithful adaptation of the best, most ground-breaking suspense thriller of all time. And trash it all you want...I'll be there on opening day.
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Man, these pics are cool. It's still a joke though just how similar this pic is going to be to Manhunter. I mean, take a look at the flaming Lounds photo for a start !!! Michael Mann must surely be going crazy over this ... and Ratner's version hasn't even hit the cinema screens yet !
John
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