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SPOILER ALERT !!
“He needs to tie together aliens, alien bounty hunters, the Syndicate, the
bees, black oil, Samantha, Baby William, Scully's Cancer, and the
SuperSoldiers.” Are we talking about Spooky Mulder’s mission, or Chris Carter’s? Are we in for a satisfying wrap-up, or a glorified clip show?
More series finale details from an “X-Files” insider whom we’ll just call “William”:
So the finale spoilers are squeaking out...but they are missing the
essence of the episode, so I want to clear it up, as well as add a little.
you know how in real life, if DC were nuked today, there is a shadow
government set up in a bunker somewhere that would keep our country
operating? That is where Mulder is trespassing into in the teaser. the
teaser ends, and Mulder is being framed for the murder of Rhohr. the details
you posted were not wrong, except for that Cary Elwes is not in the finale
at all.
Mulder's trial is being judged by Kersh. Skinner plays defense attorney. a
previously unseen agent is our prosecutor. The trial is held in secret
with no witnesses because the crime took place in such a sensitive military
operation. Mulder's defense is to prove the entire X Files conspiracy.
He needs to tie together aliens, alien bounty hunters, the Syndicate, the
bees, black oil, Samantha, Baby William, Scully's Cancer, and the
SuperSoldiers. if he can prove that, he couldn't have killed Rhohr because Rhohr is a
SuperSoldier. So the trial unfolds over about an hour, with every one
you would expect to testify, plus some surprises. (Marita, Gibson)
Flashbacks from 9 seasons and the movie play over the testimony to really spell
out the entire conspiracy.
But what do you expect from a trial over which Kersh presides?
Mulder is guilty, and faces the death penalty. Luckily for fans, and
the
franchise itself, he escapes with help of the most unlikely of
people...someone thought dead for over 5 seasons...NO ONE DIES on The X
Files.
I won't give away everything, but before the end, there is a long
action
scene being filmed this week with Mulder and scully (holding hands)
being
chased through the Anasazi Indian ruins by unmarked Black helicopters.
i will let some one else carry it from there...
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It hasn't been good for at least three years. I don't know. Maybe this clip show finale will spin the series off into some interesting movies. Let's hope. It'll be nice to see Mulder back. L8r
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It could open up the doorway to massive plot inconsistencies. I really hope Carter somehow pulls this off, the X-Files as an entity deserves it.
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Apr 25, 2002 4:06:28 AM CDT
Yeah but will Cancer Man let the Buffalo Bills finally win the G
by bari umenema
I mean if he's really still around he should do this good deed. Just because he's a frustrated novelist is no reason to continually penalize the Buffalo Bills!
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Mulder can't die! At least not until he dies of autoerotic asphyxiation (remember Clyde Bruckman, people), and I don't think they'd pick that execution method for him... Here's hoping they somehow manage to tie all the bits together. At the end of season 5 I thought I had the whole conspiracy perfectly figured out up to that point, but the past few years have just totally made the whole bloody conspiracy a mess! This season has still been a loser, but maybe the finale will at least get some things straight.
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Either two things will occur: 1.This will successfuly and believably tie together the entire series, and we'll all feel like asses for doubting Chris Carter. or 2.This is just gonna suck and be just as convoluted as ever, and end in a very unsatisfactory way.......I'm leaning towards the latter.
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ok, so the last couple seasonshaven't been up to par. The x-files is still a landmark show that is an undeniable classic. Not since "The Twilight Zone" has a series dealt with the paranormal so well. maybe it's lost it's focus with the conspiracy at times but it never failed to be entertaining. The finale will redeme everything (hopefully) and pave the way for a series of films. f-u to all you who say the show sucks, it's better than 90% of the crap on television.
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This has been posted before, and I never got an answer. I always thought the point of Cylde's comment was that *he* (Buckman) dies of autoerotic asphyxiation at the end of the episode. Can anyone help we out with this?
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Apr 25, 2002 7:04:33 AM CDT
Let me understand: the series finale is a CLIP SHOW!?!
by triumph the dog
This is shaping up to be worse the finale of Seinfeld
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Seinfeld did this exact same thing, and we all know how THAT turned out. Just wait -- within the final ten minutes of the movie you'll learn that Fox Mulder is in a mental institution, and the entire series was his fucking imagination. To be honest, I don't know if there is any other way to explain all of it. Keep your fingers crossed and hope Chris Carter doesn't Lynch us.
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it neither deserves your attention, nor is there any need for you malicious re-iteration of those points. I mean, since the media proclaimed internet fanboys as being super-influential, some of ya'll have let that go to your head. Movie Snobs of tomorrow.
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Man, I am sad that it is ending... but I am glad before it starts stinking TOO bad. The majority of the eps this year have been so bad. I have still caught every one. And I don't quite understand all the hostility directed toward X-Files. Are you nerds upset that a show was actually on TOO long? Who cares what a few hundred dorks think about a shows quality and progress... for 99.999999% of X-Files viewers, the final episode will be a sad day. God the shit you people complain about amazes me.
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There is so much there that most of us don't remember how it ties in. The only way to do a believable finale is to do a clip show. I'm betting it's X also.
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seriously, what the hell is it with "final episodes" and their inherent flashbacks? eh...oh well.
so, let me get this straight, mulder is being tried in a supersecret place because he did at some supersecret place and all of the mass security for this supersecret place can't manage to keep a measly ex-FBI agent and his honey locked up? what the hell kind of security is it? Rent-a-cops? -
Hey if what Drak suggests were true, wouldn't it be great if it ended with the camera pulling back down the corridor to reveal the residents in each of the adjacent rooms: Buffy foaming at the mouth, Dark Angel's Max banging her head on the door, the Roswell kids staring intently at the wall, Michael Knight talking to himself and making car noises, etc. :-) (Yeah, I know different networks, but still one can dream.)
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Sure, Seinfeld ended with a clip show, as the X-Files appears to be doing as well. But I think that is where the similarities end. The whole conspiracy arc, if it is to be tied up (especially for fans who may have stopped watching the past couple of seasons), begs for clips to help illustrate how it all ties together. Seinfeld, on the other hand, I believe was illustrating that we all tuned in and "loved" completely unlikeable people (which is why I think so many people hated it - it thumbed its nose at much of the audience).
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Man, I used to love TXF back in the day, but I think it should have been kicked in the head about two seasons ago. That said, it's still ten times better than a lot of the shit on TV that everyone uncomplainingly sits through. (Not me anymore, I don't watch any TV since XF jumped the shark.) TXF is kind of a victim of its own success - it's got to be as good as the show was when it had the virtues of freshness, sexiness, and mystery upon its side. The mythology is simply too convoluted to be closed in an hour of television. Sorry. It just is. But I'm not going to rag on CC because his achievement still rules. I'm glad it's finishing, and yet sad. Does that make sense? And yeah, X would make a great comeback character, as I always thought he was cool, but I'm betting not. Probably will be CSM or possibly, if I'm really really lucky, Krycek.
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waking up in bed with Bob Newhart and Suzanne Pleshette. He tells Bob that he just had the strangest dream. Then the camera pulls back and we find that the bed is in a snowglobe that is being watched by a small child. Then an announcer says ".. the day the running stopped." Fade to Black.
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the small child continually says "how's Annie?" over and over..
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Apr 25, 2002 10:11:09 AM CDT
you'd need a 20 minute highlight reel to get all of this scr
by maxwell's hammer
While the clip show on Sunday's Simpson's was almost offensive, I think that a clip show might work for the finale of X-Files. There are so damn many plots and loose ends, i can see how a series of clips would be the most successful manner in which to present the absurd number of plot elements and demonstrate how they all fit together. I know there is a stigma around clip shows, but in this case, it just might work.
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I hope it lives up to the excitement the show has given me over the past 9 years.....
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even gives a shit about this sad ass hackneyed and WAY too drawn out train wreck at an abortion clinic?
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While I will agree with most here
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...!
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Apr 25, 2002 11:26:58 AM CDT
Mr. X or Deepthroat? This will be goo, it would be amazing if th
by silver_joo
... they won't though, will they?
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I stopped watching years and years ago... the only reason I read this article is mild curiosity at how they are finally killing it off. ho hum, looks like it's more of the same crap that made me stop watching.
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... While Mulder converses with Bob Newhart and Susanne Pleshette in the snowglobe, Scully enters the Black Lodge and wanders around through endless rooms decorated with blood red curtains and encoutering an endless series of giants and dancing midgets. Dogget wakes up and hears his shower running. He goes to investigate and finds Bobby Ewing. We skip forward in time a few decades to find the X-baby, played by Janeanne Garofalo in a gender-bending male role discussing the trials and tribulations of growing up with her parents (Mulder and Scully). Finally, Mulder opens a bar, hires Danielle Brisbois as a cocktail waitress and half the cast becomes regulars in the spin-off/sequel, "Spooky Mulder's Place."
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And everybody sits down at a table (Mulder, Scully, Skinner, Doggett, Reyes) and plays poker.
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Not in a way to kill him quickly. Oh no. But slowly. So we can watch the blood collect in his skull and slowly crush the life from his brain. --- Putting out a lousy product is forgivable. Putting out something that was so good and then deliberately letting it end in such a sad, lame way isn't. --- I hope Carter gets lymphatic cancer.
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We'll all watch it. If you're not gonna watch it, then shut up, your opinion is void. Out.
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I called the X-Files tired because it IS tired. Have you been watching the past two seasons? They've been the dullest of the entire series' run. Nothing against Robert Patrick or Annabeth Gish, but they aren't Mulder and Scully. And the writers of have done nothing to make the two of them even half as fun as Mulder and Scully were. The show should have ended two years ago. Now let's bring on some kick ass movies!!! L8r
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Mulder Explains things in the court room, instead of us WATCHING HIM TALK ABOUT IT... we get illustrations. Just old flashbacks so the image learning people can follow with the audio learners. It's not as if Mulder says:
"Hey Scully, remember the time when we learned about the alien baseball play" ...then cuts to the flash back...
This is a way we FINALLY learn some of the things we MISSED on the show. I NEED that... because I put in the time!! I need to know everything and why... this seems like a good way to do it. Some of you would no matter what talk trash about this show because anything would be "stupid". And the few people that really don't like the idea of the finale, that's fine... I really hope that it's at least a little bit good in your oppinion. But manny of you just hate things for hating them. Maybe it will suck, but no one knows until we see it... Just keep an open mind, all I ask. -
When they ran the first 100 episodes on FX a few years back, they interviewed a lot of the characters. I don't remember his real name, but Deep Throat said that Carter told him not to worry, that no one dies on the X-Files. I won't mind flashbacks if it leads to REAL answers, not just more mysteries wrapped in enigmas. As for the earlier post, Twin Peaks-style, HELL, YEA! HOW'S ANNIE?!? We gotta save Coop! Bring on the LMFAP!!! Damn fine coffee.
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You said in another talkback that in the future Fox will have a show called That Clips Show! where Andy Richter hosts clips from Fox shows in a re-cap format. What do they do when the episode they're recapping is itself a clips show? The mind boggles.
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I remember reading that Stephen Williams, who plays X, was going to return for the finale. The ending that FutureGuy posted reads like it could end that way. With X fixing everything so that Mulder can be reinstated into the FBI, but the question of whether he (and maybe Scully) actually returns to the FBI and the X-Files would be left in the air. I speculate it could be a deal where Mulder can return to the X-Files, which will be under the guardianship of X, but if he chooses not to, then X can't help him and Mulder will remain a fugitive. Scully will be by Mulder's side and be a fugitive, too. I can see the ending where this question (return to the X-Files or go on the lamb?) is simply not answered, but it doesn't matter: Mulder and Dana (and this would be the right moment for her to finally call Mulder "Fox") have all the answers, in one another, and drive off together into the sunset.
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Vote Quimby!!!!
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It always amuses me when people complain that the arc doesn't make sense and that Chris has lost his way. If you have this view then you must not have a very good attention span. Sure the show has gone on too long, sure they should have stepped things up after the movie instead of chasing more monsters-of-the-week. But the arc (although too stretched out over the last few years) does make sense. You can boil it all down into a summary. >>> There are aliens that are planning on taking over the earth and using humans as food (more like incubation hosts). The shape changers work for them and do most of the work. Other shape changers have rebeled and fight against the aliens so there is a kind of alien civil war going on. Certain humans made a deal with the bad aliens years ago that they would work for them in return for favorable treatment when they take over. These people also experiment with people to find a way to beat the bad aliens. The clones were created to work with the bees and the fields for the bad aliens. The bees were made to "infect" people so that they would grow aliens in them. The experiments with the oil (the same stuff that "infects" people) are done by the people who made the agreement with the bad aliens but for the purpose of finding a way to fight it. In the end the syndicate (the old white guys) were not really the bad guys. They partly were because they had a deal with the bad aliens, but they were also the only people who really were finding ways to fight back. The only thing Mulder is doing is trying to find out all the secrets which in the end may hurt us. If he actually exposed all the stuff going on, he would also expose it to the aliens which could speed up the end for mankind. Here is a scoresheet: Syndicate-(helping bad aliens while secretly fighting bad aliens) Mulder-(he means well), CSM-(does bad things for good reason), Super Soldiers-(created by syndicate with alien DNA to help fight aliens), aliens with faces sewn up-(fight against bad aliens), gray aliens-(main bad guys), most shape changers-(lackeys for gray aliens), some shape changers-(fight against the bad aliens and occasionally help people). Did I leave anything out? Any questions? does it all make sense now?
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....is fine by me. This show is about Mulder's quest, after all, and continuing it without him was a bad move. They should have gone straight to movies at the end of last year. Deep Throat or X returning would be nice, would like it if Alex Krycek was still alive as well. Hoping for the best on this one.
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I think you got it. But Elvis is pretty old by now, you forgot about his junior partners. Kurt Cobain and Layne Staley. Hang loose.
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Hope it goes out in style.
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Not with the rejuvination serum the good aliens gave him over the years to keep him spry during his mission for Uncle Sam. So in the end, we get young, sexy '50's Elvis instead of fat old '70's Elvis. Kewl. Hey, even better--The King could be one of the Men In Black! As "E," of course. Carter, are you writing this down?! Comeon, man, send this sucker out with some class. Toppu o Nerae!
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Apr 26, 2002 3:51:20 AM CDT
I'm cool with shot little clips to finally explain the whole
by tall_boy
There's only 2 things I wanna see in this ep. #1 the conspiracy explained so I finally know what the hell I was watching for the past 9 years and #2 Elvis comes in, saves the day, and they drive off in a pink Cadilac. Hoping I'm getting #1 (and we deserve it) praying we get #2 just to completely fuck with the audience.
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Well, if it's someone who died 5 years back, I'm going with X. I'd love to see Krycek, Spender and especially Deep Throat, though. ***Toby O Notoby, as for the Bruckman case, I think it could be interpreted like that as well. But since Bruckman clearly talked about his death with Scully rather than Mulder, the fact that he directed that line at Mulder would seem to indicate that it's connected with Mulder's death, not his. ***Oh, and jeffv, laughed my little hiney off laughing at that! Would make a great ending though... Wouldn't mind seeing Adama there, raving about Kobol and about having to find Earth, and screaming after having a really bad nightmare with the nurses consoling him "Now you know there is no Milky Bar kid..."
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I could go for some damn fine coffee and a slice of cherry pie right about now! Sorry, couldn't resist. Actually, I had all that (and more, like exactly which "abductions" had been real and which had not) figured out a few years back. A lot of blanks have been filled in after that as well, but the last two years have made things a bit more confusing. Would just like to point out that the shapeshifters ARE grays, not just workers for the grays. Some of them simply disagree with the general gray plans. (They're like all the 5th colony members, pacifists and X'on followers in V, if we need a sci-fi comparison.)
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...they could put him in his '68 comeback special black leather outfit. It would also explain why Tommy Lee's character HAD to play "the King" while busting alien @$$. DEVILCAT'S ENDING MUST BE THE ENDING TO THE X-FILES. ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTE!
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Deep throat died at the end of the 1ST season. He said 5 seasons ago...It might be X, but my money's on Bill Mulder.
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MyFootsZZZ "Mulder Explains things in the court room, instead of us WATCHING HIM TALK ABOUT IT... we get illustrations." __ Um, that's a clip show. Coop so quaintly put it that we must not have an attention span. I maintain the exact opposite. I've SEEN what's already happened. If dialogue is done well it doesn't need to be forcefed with clips I've already seen. __ Yes, I'll watch. Because I prefer the closure after the time I (now know to be mistakenly) spent watching the show and thinking it was going somewhere. ___ But half the show as a clip show as an ending, ESPECIALLY after the plainly silly and insulting way they killed the Lone Gunmen makes it prety clear Carter doesn't just lack any care for how things wrap up, he apparently feels genuine contempt for his fans and this story. I guess he's mad because we didn't lap up Harsh Realm.
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Apr 26, 2002 12:11:04 PM CDT
This show also answers the mystery of JFK, the Illuminati, the F
by christopher3
The current location of the Ark of the Covenant, the exact date of Christ's second coming, who the mole at CTU is, what happened to the sixth replicant, who really shot Mr. Burns, why "Friends" is still on, and what the Procter & Gamble logo stands for.
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...that Carter pulls this off. I'm rewatching on DVD, and remembering a lot of things that I forgot. The more I watch, the more I really want to have faith that Carter himself can remember all of the stuff that's been embedded in all of these seasons. I'd like to think he wouldn't let us down. I keep reading about another X-Files movie...truth or rumor?
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I think that the whole point of Myfootszzz's post was the fact that a clip show would be more entertaining than an hour(or is it two?) of Fox Mulder on the witness stand talking. I agree with you on the Lone Gunmen thing, why did they have to die?!?!
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Awesome post.
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We never actually saw their bodies. The episode was extremely weak--and their "deaths" seemed meaningless in the scope of the series. Whats with the rumors of the Gunmen in the finale? Anyone have good insight beyond the already posted rumors?
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What about the alien abductions? And what were the "real" ones? How was Mulder's dad involved and what really happened to Samantha? What about Scully's cancer and the other women with cancer? Who's the father of Scully's baby? Who were the men in black? What was Area 51 all about? What happened to Mulder's fish? Why the hell did they ever kill off the Lone Gunmen?!?
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"I think that the whole point of Myfootszzz's post was the fact that a clip show would be more entertaining than an hour(or is it two?) of Fox Mulder on the witness stand talking." Yeah I got it. Thanks. I just don't agree with him. There are better ways. --- "I agree with you on the Lone Gunmen thing, why did they have to die?!?!" And they may not have. Who knows with Carter? And even if they hadf I could have been alright with it. But not the way it was done. The episode sucked on every level. They went out humiliated and broke because that chick betrayed them. And the death itself was stupid and more contrived than Maul's death in SW: TPM. Awful.
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Maybe more people would use them if they posted in order and had some kind of decent interface.
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A. Clawing like hell on his casket.
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Dogget and Reyes get lost on a rainy night and stop at a castle to use the phone. There they encounter Skinner, a manservant, and his sister Marita, a domestic. Then they encounter Master of the House, foxy Dr. Frank N. Mulder, his groupie, Scullumbia, and houseboy/dinner-to-be Robert M. Fassl, who Dogget met from an airplane crash he investigated in Texas ADAY ago. After attending a party and meeting other friends of the host (assorted recurring cast e.g. the TLG cast and various informants X, Deep Throat, ABH, etc.) the show is switched to Showtime from Fox and the cast gets nekkid. QaF/Free for all nekkid. The denouement is Frohike waking up in Mulder's bed saying "You wouldn't believe the dream I just had!" Cut to Scully in the park with William and his REAL father, CSM! (Remember En Ami -the real conception- and that William was named after his parents' fathers, and CSM's real name is WILLIAM B. Davis!!!!!) Ok, ok, the REAL, REAL father is BYERS!!
Suddenly, we cut to Oliver Stone waking up in bed
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So,some of you still have faith in Chris Carter to sew things up??? Okay, how many of you would then care to explaon to me what the ending of Millenium meant. I'm hoping, but not too optimistic
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