April 19, 2002, 8:08 p.m. CST
April 19, 2002, 8:16 p.m. CST
A Man who understands the book will direct it? A man who could absolutely beat the pants off of vin diesel in acting as Hellboy? Money to make this film fly? Baker, to make Hellboy and company of freeks? gaba gaba goo!!!
April 19, 2002, 8:21 p.m. CST
by THE PROFESSOR
i G.DT HAS THE BALLS ENOUGH TO MAKE THIS BALLS TO THE WALL , EVVEN MORE SO THAN BLADE 2. THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE MOODY AND ACTION AND HORROR ALL IN ONE.
April 19, 2002, 8:24 p.m. CST
...but I must admit that it's all sounding REALLY cool. I was never a big comic book guy (please don't kill me), not that I hate comics... I was just had his obsession with movies since I was a young lad and missed out on all the comic book goodies growing up. Usually, a comic book property will turn into a movie and that's when I'll become familiar with it (except for Superman, Batman, Spidey and the X-Men... 'cause everyone knows who they are). I didn't know much about SPAWN or BLADE... but I did start reading the comics right before the movies came out. Still, this sounds like it could be a cool movie and I'm making it my mission to find out more about this mysterious HELLBOY character.
April 19, 2002, 8:25 p.m. CST
by SilentBob X
That concludes my wisdom nugget for this month. Snoogans.
April 19, 2002, 8:30 p.m. CST
by BEARison Ford
not if any movie studio on the face of this planet has a say about it.
April 19, 2002, 8:49 p.m. CST
fuck off! wow i can name drop. what a fucking wanker. regardless of this particular cool news, does anyone else long for the days when this site was just about cool news and not about who harry is "friends" with?!? gimme a break.
April 19, 2002, 8:55 p.m. CST
by Frank Black
I am thrilled by this news. Hellboy is one of the best comic series ever to be conceived. The combination of action, myth and folk lore, are the perfect ingredients for the cinema. Anyone who isn't familiar with the comic, but loves fantasy and horror, should check it out. Perlman IS right for this role. His physical structure and voice are perfect. Vin Diesel would have been fine too, but just to see this made is nice.
April 19, 2002, 9:05 p.m. CST
by Sam Bones
First let me say that I loathed BLADE II. With such rich source material as the award winning comic book (the original Blade character being the exact opposite of a superficial video game superhero) being crapped upon to chase after pre-adolecent and teen age boys it was the ultimate in cynical Hollywood filmmaking. It was the lowest in common denominator marketing even down to using "fake" action based upon "fake" wrestling action while covering for a slow-moving fake action star by speeding up the editing and using terrible CGI. I have no hope for finding any credible plot or decent characterization in a film made by the same filmmaker for another comic book (a book which isn't half as well written as THE TOMB OF DRACULA from which the Blade character was taken). And what is even more disheartening is that we'll probably get several wildly enthusiastic reviews by members of this site lauding HELLBOY as the second coming (or "cumming" as Harry described BLADE II) upon its release. It seems reasonable to me that since Harry and Del Toro are such close friends that it would automatically disqualify Harry from reviewing ANY of his films upon their release. Sigh. I've never been so disappointed upon seeing a movie after reading those BLADE II reviews. I felt betrayed because Harry and the others on this site usually have a genuine appreciation and understanding of films and comics. Note how Morarity rightly noted every flaw in Fincher's THE PANIC ROOM while pointing out its strong points. A fair and balanced take on the film that seemed, to me, to match much of what was wrong with BLADE II. I'll use his own summation to voice what I predict will be the final word on HELLBOY. "I expected more." I hope I'm wrong and Del Toro (obviously a talent with the right material like THE DEVIL'S BACKBONE) decides to make a real FILM of HELLBOY ... instead of a plastic product based upon marketing and designed to sell toys (like the worst of the Batman movies). What I love about AICN is the "soul" they celebrate at the foundation of truly wonderful films, comics and TV shows not the shilling for friends of their inferior efforts.
April 19, 2002, 9:15 p.m. CST
by the name of Spawn.
April 19, 2002, 9:22 p.m. CST
Lovers or separated at birth??? Or both?
April 19, 2002, 9:23 p.m. CST
Sam, Any problems you had with characters as written in BLADE 2 were David Goyer problems, not Guillermo Del Toro issues. And if you talk to Guillermo about some of the CG stuntmen issues on BLADE 2 he'll talk about how unhappy he was with some of the shots not being where they needed to be and also how he wanted to shoot additional character scenes to flesh out the characters, action to flesh the action out and other items not permitted in the budget for the David Goyer draft of the screenplay. BLADE 2 is not a Guillermo Del Toro film. It is a David Goyer/Wesley Snipes film that he was custodian over. Now, having said that, I enjoyed the comic book action, the look of the film and the reaper stuff quite a bit. HOWEVER, if you think the approach to characters will be anything even remotely similar with HELLBOY you will be happily mistakened. HELLBOY is as much a love story in the BELLE ET LA BETE fashion as it is an action adventure fable. HELLBOY will be the first fully financed Guillermo Del Toro big film. He apparently will have the control on HELLBOY that he had on CRONOS and DEVIL'S BACKBONE, but without the budget limitations that kept those movies small. As for the gentleman in Talk Back that said no Major Studio would allow Del Toro to cast Ron Perlman over Vin Diesel.... You are right... That's why REVOLUTION FILMS (not a studio) but an independent production company with deep pockets has greenlit this with Ron. Guillermo didn't want to set the film up with anyone else, both he and Mignola wanted Ron Perlman from the beginning. As for the pic of me eating with Guillermo... the significance is that the plate had Hellboy's mousse, which proves that Hellboy eats mousse, which any fanboy or girl that wanted to prepare a dessert for Hellboy would want to know!
April 19, 2002, 9:50 p.m. CST
Or Does Guillermo Del Toro look like the love child of Harry Knowles and Peter Jackson?
April 19, 2002, 9:57 p.m. CST
Not only does Hellboy NOT have a huge sword, Evil Reader, but the poor sap can't even aim a gun without worrying about putting his own eye out. There's a couple minor instances of other character's mocking his pathetic aiming skills. He also doesn't trust machines, since they tend to lock up or explode in his face when he's trying to use them. He prefers to jump on things and hammer them to death with his stone fist while muttering to himself. Like Ash, he's supposed to be a blue-collar guy burdened with enormous responsibilities. He's an average Joe Sixpack with a heart of gold and 650 pounds of muscle. And I think Perlman would be great - he has the haggard, somewhat downtrodden look that somewhat like Hellboy needs - the poor guy just goes through depressing crap every day of his life and it ought to show. He's over fifty years old, and he apparently ages faster than humans as well (at least, he went from a baby to an adult within ten years or so).
April 19, 2002, 9:59 p.m. CST
by Son Of Batboy
Makes me feel like I'm sliding down a rope in gym class. So what if I got callouses.
April 19, 2002, 10:13 p.m. CST
...oh, sweet joy. Could all of this be true? del Toro (you don't capitalize the "del" right?), "Hellboy", Perlman, AND Harry (whose hair is red like the fires of HELL) eating mousse? Next thing you'll tell me that the Lord is returning. All I have to say is this, "God, please don't come back until after this film is released. I know heaven will be cool and all, but a movie adaption of "Hellboy"? Hell, I'd sell my soul to see that!"
April 19, 2002, 11:09 p.m. CST
I made you so angry about an internet talkback that you went into a completely different one to belittle me. Now, who was it that was recently talking about low achievements? Oh yeah, you.
April 19, 2002, 11:13 p.m. CST
Yes it will. Perlman is da bomb, and while I haven't seen Blade 2 yet (hasn't been released in Australia and with my computer there is no point even trying to d/l the fucker) Del Toro seems to be the goods in terms of wanting to make this both faithful to the book and arse-kickingly good. By the way, I am deeply distrustful of men who talk disparagingly of phallic symbols, Evil Reader. It seems hopelessly naive and pretentious to dismiss this film in pseduo-freudian terms without even being the slightest bit familiar with the character. Plus, I can't think of any weapons that qualify as vaginal symbols, so I guess phallic will have to do.
April 19, 2002, 11:23 p.m. CST
BTW, if you're unfamiliar with Mike Mignola's character, Dark Horse Comics has a number of online HELLBOY comics and previews... visit http://www.hellboy.com/hbcomicsonline.html and http://www.hellboy.com/hbpreviewsonline.html for links. An online favorite is "The Corpse." Be sure to check out "The Wolves of Saint August" and "Almost Colossus" too.
April 19, 2002, 11:33 p.m. CST
Now this news just begs the question.......WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET A SIN CITY MOVIE??????? I want one, and so do many others!!!!!!! it is the ultimate comic, thus it would be the ultimate movie!!!! make one damnit!!!! and make it in black and white with color splashes of red blue and yellow every now and then, and make it 3 hours long and 3 movies long!!!!!! COME ON!!!!! hook us up!!!!! we all know Frank Miller is the man, and hell with talk of him and darren aronofsky one day (hopefully) actually doing a year one movie........that would be so nice to see too, but I WANT SIN CITY!!!!!!!!! I want to see Marv on the big screen.....(who the hell could convincingly play him though) oh shit, Harrison Ford!!!!! he's about the right age now, and you give him lots of makeup and prostetics and he would be awesome i think.......maybe not, it was a spur of the moment thought, still could be cool......anyways, hellboy kicks ass and as long as its not like spawn (in the way that the comic was the shit and the movie was just shit) it will be beautiful......but give us SIN CITY!!!!!!! that yellow basterd!!
April 19, 2002, 11:34 p.m. CST
THEN it would be called PERFECT casting, AND a director that was MADE to make a movie. THIS is a wedding of perfect harmony. DAMN. My geekiness is making me drool.
April 19, 2002, 11:53 p.m. CST
i just decided to check out the multimedia section of the site (a realm i rarely venture to) and watched a short called Unbakable, with orlando jones as Mr Grass!!! FUNNY SHIT!!!! i love orlando jones he is one of the funniest men alive!!! so go over there now and watch it, you will laugh your ass off. Mr Ass??? Who the fuck is Mr Ass????
April 19, 2002, 11:56 p.m. CST
by EL Duderino
Maybe the Ghost of Mars set visit was the last time we saw Harry do something like that. Weird how that has all changed. Oh yeah, non sequiter this may be, despite the fact that Hellboy got the greenlight, the shooting date is still a while away. Is Guillermo going to shoot anything in the meantime, or maybe hire a different DP?
April 20, 2002, 12:01 a.m. CST
You completely ruined it for us. Really.
April 20, 2002, 12:43 a.m. CST
Ron Perlman... BWAHAHAHAHAHA. Coming STRAIGHT to video in 2003... HELLBOY.
April 20, 2002, 12:52 a.m. CST
Quote Rain_Dog "This will be the greatest movie of all time." Are you retarded? Come on now... Let's be reasonable. BTW, Blade II was ok but certainly not worth the Penthouse Letters review that Harry gave it. The Reapers shuffled around like they were Apes from Tim Burton's mind that had fallen into a giant vat of Nair. That was the least of the problems with that movie.
April 20, 2002, 1:04 a.m. CST
I would've preferred Vin Diesel.
April 20, 2002, 1:07 a.m. CST
I'm excited, that's all. I'm looking forward to Blade 2, and rather like Cronos, so the prospect of del Toro doing Hellboy caused me to go into fanboy overload. Remind me to speak in an entirely literal fashion next time so as not to confuse anyone.
April 20, 2002, 1:23 a.m. CST
Thanks for the little info update, but I still don't get some things. Perlman might be right for the part, but even I wouldn't choose him over Vin Disel. Problem is, VD gets about $20 million now for a movie. Perlman has NEVER carried a movie, had virtually NO name recognition and I just can't see anybody, even independent powerful Hollywood folks getting anybody to drop big budget money on this. I also, sadly but honestly, can't really see movie going normals going to see a movie called "Hellboy" no matter how good the comic book is. In fact, that will send folks away. I hope the picture is great, and I hope that they make some money, but I don't really see it all working.......................................................market this: "Hellboy Staring Ron Pearlman"
April 20, 2002, 1:30 a.m. CST
Someone mentioned a "Sin City" movie, and I thought I'd pass this tidbit, which I think I read in a letters page in one of Frank Miller's comics: Miller said that Miramax offerred him the chance to direct a "Sin City" movie and he turned it down. I think he might have said that he doesn't want a "Sin City" movie made, no matter who's making it. Our loss, but cheers to him for sticking to his guns, even in the face of the Disney cash machine.
April 20, 2002, 1:39 a.m. CST
I think Miller probably recognises that Sin City rocks so much largely because of his visual style; make into a movie, you've just got ultra-violent film noir, albiet really good ultra-violent film noir. Some comics will probably only work as comics (Watchmen) becuase they are so steeped in the medium itself. Making movies of them would be like "dancing about architecture", as a man smarter than me once said. Can't remember who the fuck it was though. Sorry, this post is complete bollocks, I'm just trying to avoid doing any real work.
April 20, 2002, 1:56 a.m. CST
Who is the guy in the photo eating with Harry? Is it Mike "Disney made me steal those designs" Mignolia or is it Guillermo "vamp fetish" Toro?
April 20, 2002, 3 a.m. CST
All you whiney motherfuckers can stay home and play video games in your underwear, that's fine. But the grown ups here liked BLADE 2 and CRONOS and THE DEVIL'S BACKBONE and especially BLADE 2 and we will be happy to follow Mr. Del Toro wherever he wants to bring us, even if it involves children's comic strips. What I think is funny is every time they cast some superstar for a part they're obviously wrong for, everybody here complains. Like yesterday when Morry printed that phoney story about Freddie Phillipe playing Leatherface, or when they announced Keanu Reeves playing Billy Jack, or anybody playing Superman, or what have you. No, so and so can't play such and such man, they need to go for an unknown! Well now they take a lesser known character actor and cast him in a part based on his abilities, the guy both the director and cartoonist say is perfect to play the part and never thought they'd be able to get a studio to back - finally they do exactly what you always said they should do and you same bitches start crying that he's not a big enough star to star in a movie. Jesus fuckin christ you kids. Go to bed for cryin out loud. I still love you all though. Bastards. Your friend, Vern.
April 20, 2002, 3:25 a.m. CST
Vin Diesel. Shut the fuck up abnout Vin Diesel. The only people who could even fathom him as Hellboy have obviously never read the comic. If Mignola wanted Perlman, that should end the issue right there. And anyone who has never heard of hellboy better be ignorant of comics as a whole, or else you are the saddest little fanboy on earth, living in a world where all comic characters wear spandex and there are still toys-r-us advertisements in the middle of book. Marvel sucks, despite Quesada's valiant attempts to save it, and DC has never been all that intereting to me. Dark Horse is the best publisher out there. Don't believe me? Then go read Hellboy and learn! Or better yet, try Blade of The Immortal. I would give my left nut to see a movie based on that!
April 20, 2002, 3:46 a.m. CST
AHHH!!! AHHHH!!! Greatest news EVER. I never, in a million years, thought this would happen. I am actually having geek spasms. heh.
April 20, 2002, 4:25 a.m. CST
sorry, just had to throw that in there. lame, I know.
April 20, 2002, 4:27 a.m. CST
c'mon, I'm almost done exams soon, I need to blow off some steam and some coin. Hook a brother up.
April 20, 2002, 4:52 a.m. CST
by Sam Bones
Harry, thanks for the info on BLADE II and the update on HELLBOY. Please believe me I hope like hell, ... boy, that Del Toro delivers on this one. Yes, I agree that BLADE II was really a Snipes/Goyer film (If you review Goyer's film credits it is not the first time you've seen horribly written dialog and six year old kid plotting and characterizations; his agent must be the shrewdest BJ expert in the industry to get as much work as he does!). It is supremely encouraging that Del Toro and Hellboy creator, Mike Mignola, are collaborating together on this film (and thus assuring a faithful adaptation). I don't know about the Big Money/Big Film excuse (planning ahead competently can make a low budget film into an inventive wonder) but having more control could be the key to pulling off what might be a terrific film. Still, BLADE II and the hype it got on this site is hard to wash off when building up any enthusiasm for the project. I suspect some of that hype was to sell BLADE II so that it would succeed at the boxoffice and assure that Del Toro had the clout to pull off HELLBOY on the level that you speak. A measure of that success IS the casting of Perlman over a Vin Diesel (It sure wouldn't hurt the film if the producers were to get Diesel as that would assure that it would open and open BIG). But Perlman IS the only actor to portray Hellboy if you want it done faithful. And there's the rub. In the end, the success of this creative venture is that it must be a passionate, exciting, WELL MADE film that makes us want to see it (and more than once). Sure, the fanboys will go but the majority of the audience will not know Perlman or Hellboy from squat. So in that I salute the casting of the talented Perlman as it signals the goal of this film is to pull the average (nonfan) viewer into the theater on the strength of the movie experience. In that I sense a ray of hope for the commitment behind the effort on HELLBOY. But pleeeease, don't overhype it. If it's really a great film it won't need it. Hell, even as great as ATTACK OF THE CLONES and SPIDER-MAN have been reported, people that have seen the films (including you) acknowledge they have flaws.
April 20, 2002, 5:48 a.m. CST
by Rhett Butler
Finally a project that a big company cannot stiff the creator on creative rights; Yeah Mike Mignola! One of the best artists in the business. And a true minimalist to boot. The stink is still foul in the air from the stipend that was eventually clawed from DC
April 20, 2002, 6:08 a.m. CST
I cant wait! So far we have seen personal, small-budget del Toro films (Cronos, El Espinazo del Diablo) and big-studio, big-budget del Toro films (Mimic, Blade 2). HELLBOY will be a personal big-budget film. How many filmmakers ever get the chance to do that? I sincerely hope he will have total control over this film from pre-production until post-production. I am thrilled that Ron Perlman will be HELLBOY. This film will be huge! Go for it del Toro! The best of luck in bringing your dream-project to the big screen!!!
April 20, 2002, 7:13 a.m. CST
perlman is cool
April 20, 2002, 7:24 a.m. CST
KingKong33 is absolutely right when he said Hellboy should be animated - live-action is WRONG WRONG WRONG!* For a start, Mike Mignola's artwork is such an integral part of Hellboy's look & atmosphere, why abandon it? His storytelling is already very filmic, so he should be in on the direction too. So whether Ron Perlman is right for the role is moot, imho. I mean, NO-ONE is gonna look good in red bodypaint & lopped-off devil's horns, so why bother? I have a nasty feeling I can hear the sound of cash registers ringing - the same ones that deafened Mignola when he licensed his creation to be turned into that laughably bad computer game a couple of years back... <shudder> *It's also WRONG
April 20, 2002, 7:27 a.m. CST
"ok, I'll bite: somebody recomend me a HELLBOY Trade Paperback to get. c'mon, I'm almost done exams soon, I need to blow off some steam and some coin. Hook a brother up." --- Hi Tall_Boy, try HELLBOY: SEED OF DESTRUCTION for a long story arc (and character intro), or HELLBOY: THE CHAINED COFFIN AND OTHERS for a variety of short stories. If you're interested in reading them in the order of publication see http://www.hellboy.com/hbtpb1994.html or here's the list... Hellboy: Seed of Destruction, Hellboy: The Wolves of Saint August (Out-of-print, but the story is in Hellboy: The Chained Coffin and Others also), Hellboy: Wake the Devil, Ghost/Hellboy Special (just a cross-over), Hellboy: The Chained Coffin and Others, Hellboy: The Right Hand of Doom, and Hellboy: Conqueror Worm. For a list of current comics and/or non-compiled comics, see http://www.hellboy.com/hbstoryindex.html. Also, in a post below, I listed URLs for the online comics and online previews.
April 20, 2002, 7:52 a.m. CST
Great post, jnapper. Personally, I'd recommendFirst Hellboy trade pb I'd recommend would be 'The Corpse, The Coffin & The Iron Shoes"...collection of short Hellboy tales which are more enteraining than the 'Seed of Destruction'. 'The Corpse' is one of my fave all-time Hellboy stories. It also has "The Wolves of St August" which is a bit more trad see-monster beat-em-up - but this gives a flavor of Mignola's masterful storytelling abilities, etc etc... DON'T get me started - oops too late! Following that, I'd read the mighty 'Wake the Devil' series, which is where I myself first picked up Mr H...
April 20, 2002, 8:30 a.m. CST
I was just talking about how I thought this movie would never be made and poof! It's being made. Good show! Wot. I just got The Devil's backbone on DVD, sweetilicious movie but I heard I would have to get it again because the Region 1 disc would feature commentary from Guillermo.
April 20, 2002, 8:31 a.m. CST
hellboy is very very cool and I believe it is important for del Toro to do this film right, strting with forgetting the fast-cant-see-anything editing of Blade II. I trust him and I believe he already knows this. Then Mignola has to be on the project, and he is. Ron Perlman has to be Hellboy, and he will, ok then. The photography has to be excellent and very contrasted, obvioulsy with lots of darks and shadows ans saturated, but Guillermo Navarro is in so that will be cool. The mood has to be a bit opressive and the pace has to be slow, slow. You have to really feel the shot, see the framing just like a Mignola panel. You need the time to look the sets and actually feel them, you need wide shots of locations that stay in frame long enough. Of course you need Hellboy falling and making bad wise cracks. The only thing this project does not need is rushing from shot to shot. Please keep the right pace and it will be absolutely great. Y QUE NO SALGA SANTIAGO SEGURA
April 20, 2002, 8:54 a.m. CST
I believe this will be THE movie that justice will be served with being faithful to the comic!
April 20, 2002, 9:34 a.m. CST
I guess it's time to admit that Harry's personal relationships with a filmmaker effects his reviews. Is Del Toro reinacting the Spaghetti scene from Se7en? Now there's an attractive picture.
April 20, 2002, 10 a.m. CST
I hope del toro remembers to put in a coherent story this time. Oh and some characters would be nice to.
April 20, 2002, 10 a.m. CST
You might be right about Harry being prejudiced toward his mates, but I guess that's understandable. I've got a couple of friends who make short films, and I almost always dig the hell out of their stuff. Perhaps, if I really forced myself to look at them objectively, I'd have a lesser opinion of them, but there's certainly no intentional bias on my part. I think the same probably applies to Harry. Of course, I don't run a film website and review movies for a living. And Harry has liked some truly shithouse movies without being bosom buddies with the director, so maybe he just has fucked up taste. But I've certainly never come to this site considering it a bastion of journalistic integrity; I like Harry's enthusiasm (although lately his dive down the slippery slope of megalomania has started to bother me) and I like the talkbacks. All us geeks love some films that deep down we know are a piece of shit. But they occupy a special place in our hearts cos . . . we're geeks.
April 20, 2002, 10:56 a.m. CST
That's how I'd like to see Hellboy made, t, & I imagine most other fans of the comic would too. Who knows, if it is, it may be good! Please also remember, reviews are OPINIONS & we're not all gonna agree all the time, are we? Not only would it be boring if we all agreed, but converstion would suffer too... ;-)
April 20, 2002, 11:01 a.m. CST
reviews are opinions, ok, but what i said I believe is just common sense after being a fan of Hellboy since day one. Blade II editing is not the way to go.
April 20, 2002, 11:13 a.m. CST
and still think that Ron Perlman is a lame idea. He is, yet, another of these actors that fan boys love to rim. Why is that? His movie/tv career has been mediocre at best, so why shower the love? Also, I don't know much about Hellboy, but it seems like they could find someone YOUNGER that could play the part... I mean he is HellBOY, afterall... not HellOLDJEWISHMAN.
April 20, 2002, 11:40 a.m. CST
I agree... and I have my fair share of lousy movies in the collection. Nonetheless, Harry's love for Del Toro the person carried over into the XXX-rated Blade II review. Don't get me wrong, I mildly enjoyed that film but it was in NO way great. I'm still creeped out by Harry and GDT sharing SOMETHING.
April 20, 2002, 1:44 p.m. CST
by Ernst Blofeld
Forget all your Yank comics, that hardly anyone reads. The next comic book adaption should be "Whizzer and Chips" - based on the British comic book of the same name it details the pitched battles of the Whizz-kids (led by Sid and his Snake "Slippy") and the Chip-ites (led by Shiner). So many characters and they can all be put in one huge bollockbusting Hollywood film. Just think Store Wars, Sweeny Toddler, not forgetting Watford Gapp (King of the Rap). http://www.toonhound.com/whizzerandchips.htm I really couldn't be more bored with this comicbook crap. Just stick to the ones people have heard of...
April 20, 2002, 5:44 p.m. CST
I'm still waiting!!
April 20, 2002, 5:46 p.m. CST
Being a longtime Hellboy fan and british (ernst >:p), i have to say I'm really REALLY looking forward to this!! I agree with dameri that Blade 2 wasn't all it was cracked up to be (a bit ho-hum) but I think Del Toro can do Hellboy justice. As for Ron Perlman - he's fuckin great! I've been waiting for him to get a lead role since Cronos, and here it is. Good luck Guillermo and please, less fight more story!!
April 20, 2002, 7:47 p.m. CST
I can understand where your'e coming from being so down on Del Toro, his films do seem to be getting worse, not better. As long as he's not alone doing the scripting though, it should be pretty good. Michael Clarke Duncan...?! He's good, but too 'clean', too much of a Hollywood choice for this. Perlman is gritty & rough-edged(reminds me of Tom Waits), a much better choice.
April 20, 2002, 11:35 p.m. CST
Slow down with the intake bra! You only live once. Take some pride in that body and don't encourage Del Toro to plump up and die on us from a heart attack or congestive heart failure before he films that HELLBOY pic.
April 21, 2002, 5:17 a.m. CST
mmhhhhmmm...i was educated in the opposite direction to comics...i guess i`ve to buy me a ton of comics now so that i can repeat all that i`ve missed. harry!! guillermo del toro looks like your brother:D but ANYONE KNOW WHO THAT BLOND GUY IS??
April 21, 2002, 6:10 a.m. CST
by Grand Digital
I've been reading the whole spasm about Harry and Blade 2 on AICN for a while, last night me and my associates were at a loose end and found ourselves watching the film, and you know what, it was really enjoyable. The thing which was cool about it was the action was carried along by the story arcs between the characters, which were really engaging SPOILER******like Reinhart was such a prick it was a supreme satisfaction to see Blade chopping him, likewise that wrinkly vampire dad was a real shit so it was great to see him getting his dues******SPOILER My only problem with the film was the downright cheesiness ( I'm not sure my valve can take any more action sequences over the top of heavy-handed big-beat moby-esque dance tracks ), but in the end it didn't matter, it was a cool film. So I think Hellboy has a real chance of coolness especially if Del Toro is creating it from the inside out. Ron Perlman was a heavyweight bad-zz, too, I think he's a good choice. Anywayz that's my 2 pence.
April 21, 2002, 8:11 a.m. CST
i was in the theatre waiting to watch Blade II, and reading a Hellboy Special...I WANNA SEE THIS MOVIE NOW
April 21, 2002, 1:05 p.m. CST
Time Magazine (4-22-2002): "....that vexing critter Jar Jar Binks, around whom the disappointment in Phantom Menace crystallized. Lucas blames the anti-Jar Jar sentiment on "37-year-old guys who spend all their time on the Internet. But you have to remember that when we did The Empire Strikes Back, some people hated C-3PO. When we did Jedi, they just loathed the Ewoks. There was no Internet to jazz it up, but there was the same conversation. Fans are very opinionated, and that's good. But I can't make a movie for fans." Nonetheless, Jar Jar has a far less prominent role this time. In movie theaters you will hear a cheer from Binks-ophobes when, as he launches into an anecdote, Padme cursorily cuts him off."
April 21, 2002, 2:53 p.m. CST
We had 11 people greenlit all over my house! Allucanluv, think Smokey The Bear without the bear.......
April 21, 2002, 3:34 p.m. CST
....right about the Matinee prices. My point is that people DIDN'T have the same reactions to C-3PO in Empire and that GL still can't admit that JarJar was less than a perfect idea - he tries to blame the bad reaction and countless unsold toys to "internet geeks" trying to undermine his brilliant creation and not because the character SUCKED.
April 21, 2002, 5:45 p.m. CST
I am not worthy.
April 21, 2002, 8:43 p.m. CST
...Same standard of films Blade 2 was borderline fun, but a BIG BIG drop in quality from the first one. Im looking forward to whatever the Blade 1 director is making.
April 22, 2002, 8:41 a.m. CST
Sad. How much futher could the name dropping go than pictures of them devouring what looks to have been a whole pig. That said, Hellboy is going to kick some red demon ass.
April 22, 2002, 9:14 a.m. CST
Fantastic news. Finally, that Hellboy movie. Cool about Perlman too, a better bet than Vin Diesel (who might have been cool, but is, oddly, too pretty). I always thought Ving Rhames might have been cool - big, physically imposing and deep voiced, plus with red CG or red body-paint or whatever...
April 22, 2002, 9:15 a.m. CST
It suffered from Mummy Returns itis- The idea that sticking in more and making it faster will be better. I found it sad because Blade is up there with my faves (Mystery Men and the original Batman)
April 22, 2002, 9:34 a.m. CST
1. Inane dialogue. Perlman is the worst offender in this category, but everyone's pretty loose lipped. Perlman comes off sounding like a b-boy gangsta with his stupid "c'mon muthafuckAA!!!"... 2. Bad characters. Once again, perlman = worst. To complement his b-boy gangsta language, he also behaves in this way. He's completely immature for a "leader" and does things out of personal vindictiveness on a regular basis throughout the film. 3. Bad fight seens. The gun battles were good. I'll give the that to the film. The hand-to-hand fight scenes, though, were like something out of WWF. Did anybody else notice that???! What the hell??? "Well, silver bullets and grenades don't seem to work. Perhaps if I do flying elbow onto his head that'll do him in." Why even have Blade and the head Reaper go at it like this? What the hell is the point? I know, Blade kills him eventually, but that, too, is lame. Any time you have a virtually indestructable monster in a movie and the good guy STILL WINS you know theres something wrong. They always seem to find the one "flashy" part of their anatomy (like in Legend of Zelda etc.) that happens to be their weakness. I really could have done without the lame WWF crap. And some of the fight scenes just drug on and on and then you found out that they didn't need to be there in the first place (eg. Blades initial fight with the two blood pack members before he knows they aren't really trying to kill him). 4. Stupidity en masse. The characters seem to have a problem using logic. I mean, the figure something out, but then they don't act on that knowledge. Case in point. Perlman's character figures out that the magical silver bullets in blades weapons don't do diddly shit to the reapers. What is his response? "Lock and load boys!" and they proceed to fire round after round after inexhaustible round into the baddies...hello? Ron Perlman was standout only as a bad character in this movie (and i mean "bad" as in horrible, stupid, wrong, nothing. Bad as in "quality", not as in some kind of "evil" description). Why anyone would choose him to HELM a movie is beyond me. What, is Hellboy going to go around yelling "Come and get me muthafUCKA!!!!"??? Harry, if this is what you consider a "quality" film, perhaps you should go back and watch a few Magnolias, Citizen Kanes, Se7ens, and American Beautys. Seriously...this doesn't even compare. To hear you rave about a film like "Blade II" and it's horrible actor, "Ron Perlman," after you've raved about a movie like "Mulholland Dr." with its insanely GREAT actors (all of them! Not to mention its great DIRECTOR) causes a form of schizophrenia that is extremely hard to deal with...bah! I'd place Blade II in the 5.99 or lower bin when it comes out. You can find better and more meaningful fight scenes elsewhere (like, oh, just about any bruce lee movie) and, as long as one avoids Prinze Jr. movies, you can find better acting just about anywhere.
April 22, 2002, 9:44 a.m. CST
5. With all of the nifty special effects in the film, do you think they could have gotten some realistic looking blood? I swear, when Blade gets out of the "vat o' blood" it just runs right off of him. Isn't blood thicker than water? Not in this film. It's more like some kind of red kool-aid. Note: this is a problem with lots of films out there. I can't think of any names, come on people! Use realistic looking "blood"...blood coagulates!!! blood sticks around!!! blood doesn't fade into a pale water stain on your pantleg, it doesn't even soak in, it's more like paint. it just sits there until it dries and then you pick it away. NOT KOOL-AID
April 22, 2002, 10:07 a.m. CST
You see friend, once upon a time Ole Harry did indeed have a mustache, Unfortunately the vast quantities of food needed to maintain his precious mass soon resulted in hugh amounts getting caught in the mustache and beard which resulted in a rather ugly incident wherein our favorite red-headed step child was mauled viciously by a pack of rabid canyon wolves. Luckily, there was more of Harry than the pack could chew into so Harry survived to continue blowing Del Toro to this day........
April 22, 2002, 11:49 a.m. CST
And not in a good way (like the first one). Like the day I made a cake made of chocolate, with a chocolate base, chocolate filling, chocolate frosting and flake on top, Blade 2 mistakes adding more for adding quality.
April 22, 2002, 4:28 p.m. CST
hey, here's a great idea, lets put an actor down cause he gets given shit lines in a flashy hollow movie. jesus man, Perlman CAN act! OK, Blade II was shite & Perlman was cheesy as fuck but, believe me, he'll be cool in Hellboy...if you want to get irate about a comic conversion, take a look at what's happening to Hellblazer!!!
April 22, 2002, 8:57 p.m. CST
This could not be any better! Perlman is perfect for this part.. i can just see him now muttering "AW CRAP..." or "SON OF A..." under his breath as he decides to drop his huge pistol (because he can't hit anything with it anyway)proceeding then to beat the poop out of some big-ass monster with the RIGHT HAND OF DOOM.. i hope we get to see re-animated Nazi heads in bell jars and LOTS of tentacles... and chimps with pistols... Wonderful news! I'm giddy!... isn't the CGI work being done by the Starship Troopers people?
April 23, 2002, 3:20 a.m. CST
by Evil Muffin
Hell Boy? Come on...the suits have finally lost their minds. The success of recent movies based on comic books has obviously caused the suits to grab up any comic characters now for movie projects, no matter how silly or small their fanbase might be. I liked what the studios have done with X-Men, Spawn and Blade and I hope Spiderman, DD and the Hulk kick ass like they should. But catch your breath guys, take a step back and think about what you're doing. Quality instead of quantity. Are you sure you want to keep going to the comic books for movie ideas? Remember how worn out it got after you went to old TV shows for you ideas several years ago. Too much of the same is not a good thing. I've been watching all facets of Hollywood for years and the one thing that always continues to amaze me is the lack of creativity, imagination and common sense the suits have.
April 23, 2002, 8:57 a.m. CST
Wasn't Perlman's performance in Blade 2 pretty par for the course for that old goat? Please elaborate on the COOL things Perlman has done so maybe I can start sucking the shit out of his ass too. You guys who want Perlman don't realize one thing: Vin Diesel, or any number of other actors out there, have CHARISMA. That is something that Perlman lacks.
April 23, 2002, 11:11 a.m. CST
Haven't seen Blade 2 (& not thinking much of the first one, don't think i will) - but I'm firmly in jooser's camp when j sez u cannae judge an actor always by their past roles - be it shite or not...(tho I do wish Chris Walken would get out of this "Rent-A-Scary" * rut he's dug himself into - lol). Perlman just "went Hollywood" & thought he'd earn some big money - surely something ALL Americans understand? That's been the choice of many other fine European actors before him - Luc Besson, anyone? He'll be just fine as Hellboy I reckon - Christ, he'll only have to BE rather than act for Hellboy's role anyway - & he fits the bill physically...(as I may have mentioned in an earlier rant...). *Copyright Cor!!! comics - another classic Brit weekly circa 'Whizzer & Chips' - & speaking of odd red characters from comics (we were?), I wanna see an "Oddball" movie! Now that WOULD be something! A CGI animator's morphing delight!
April 23, 2002, 11:29 a.m. CST
Lol - I know this is TOTAL nitpicking, but it's still funny: I just noticed the promo bit of art heading this page with Hellboy's "Apocalypse Tool" on his left arm instead of his right(my term, not Mr Mignola's)- nice, art, otherwise <grin>. & NOW I know who Vin Diesel is (the crim in 'Pitch Black'? Haven't seen him in anything else, but going by his performance in PB, he'd have been good too (tho too pretty! Gotta have that looooong face & BIG chin...). Hey - & where'd my earlier post disappear to? Better hit Ctrl C for this one - these damn raves take time!
April 23, 2002, 11:36 a.m. CST
Just found my earlier post - scrolled 2 the bottom of the page, & holy d'oh's Batman - there it is! I feel such a fewl...lol
April 24, 2002, 4:17 p.m. CST
by Sam Bones
Here's what it says in the trades today about Del Toro and HELLBOY. ........................................ "... The picture has originally set up at Universal, which cooled on the project when hopes of enlisting its "The Fast and the Furious" and "Pitch Black" star Vin Diesel were dashed. (meaning Del Toro was out of deal and the project was dead) But del Toro has plenty of momentum himself after "Blade II" grossed $32.5 million in its first weekend last month. Studios all over Hollywood offered him projects. While DreamWorks quickly set up an adaptation of H.P. Lovecraft's "At the Mountain of Madness," and Fox and James Cameron's Lightstorm are developing the horror film "Coffin" for del Toro to direct, the filmmaker wanted his next film to be "Hellboy," come hell or high water." ...................................................... So despite reservations about the script, its characterizations, producer control, etc., as voiced here by Harry himself AFTER BLADE II WAS OUT FOR THREE WEEKS, the unusual overinflated and gushing (cumming!) hype for BLADE II (which was a major disappointment to many and is awful for all the reasons cited by Harry and more, in my opinion) helped to send people into the theaters for the film's opening and thus by that momentium, get these other films in development for Del Toro. Okay. We'll probably get much better films out of the process from Del Toro (and that's not a bad thing for us fans) but this signals a loss of pure geek love for film on this site which has been replaced with a calculating "Hollywood Insider" sort of manipulation akin to any studio wishing to hype a film at all costs (or its filmmaker in this case). It's like HELLBOY was created only the nazis won. What happened to the guy that stood up to McTiernan and MGM and told the truth about ROLLERBALL? Sigh. I guess this was bound to happen eventually.