April 15, 2002, 3:03 a.m. CST
It looks like it's been placed on it's background. and look at the back of Favreau's head...this has been edited at some point. How has Favreau gotten that large since MADE? Why is Affleck walking so stiff-legged? Something just doesn't look right
April 15, 2002, 3:07 a.m. CST
I hardly think its fake, dude. Favreau could easily have put on the weight for the role. Trust me, it doesn't take long to pack on the pounds. And Ben Affleck can't act, hence the stiff legged walk.
April 15, 2002, 3:13 a.m. CST
I'm surprised I haven't heard anything on this. Is this the rumored Kevin Smith Daredevil movie? Who's writing? Who's directing? Who is co-starring? Details people details. Don't show me this pic and say "Here's Matt and Foggy!" That's like you takin your top off and sayin "What are you looking at!?"
April 15, 2002, 3:14 a.m. CST
COMB YOUR HAIR!
April 15, 2002, 3:24 a.m. CST
Oh Ben, please just go away. How did you happen. Really?
April 15, 2002, 3:38 a.m. CST
Well I see that I am a moron for not looking around before speaking. While I am a Marvelite I will reserve judgment on Duncan being cast as Kingpin. I do this because i believe that Duncan can pull off the man in charge roll, the very essence of the Kingpin. Hell if that was the case my first choice would have been Ving Rhames because of his role on UC Undercover, but duncan is an excellent choice. Afleck, I know I'm gonna get blasted for this, IS A GOOD ACTOR! Sure he is a ham but a lot of our good american actors are. Afleck would not be my first choice no, but give him a shot. Hell if I did the casting I would have picked Jessica Alba as Electra and Val Kilmer as Murdock. While val was wrong for Batman makes him right for Daredevil. He's got that look like "I know it looks like I have no clue what's going on around me but, heh heh heh, if you only knew!" Well it'll all come out in the wash in time!
April 15, 2002, 4:08 a.m. CST
Ben Affleck actually seems to fit the role. And I love his messy hair. It makes him look like a comic book character instead of just Ben Affleck. Ben Affleck's usual hairstyle is boring. Jon Favreau looks fantastic. I can't believe it. I have always been a passionate Ben Affleck hater, but he seems to be on a roll suddenly: Changing Lanes, Sum of All Fears, and now Daredevil. I don't want to give up my hatred, but maybe it's inevitable.
April 15, 2002, 4:08 a.m. CST
April 15, 2002, 4:44 a.m. CST
but Favreau looks like his head has been stuck on, where's his neck gone? And that doesn't look like Ben Affleck either, although Harry, the shades do look like they have a red tint. What the hell, I've been on this PC for 9 hours straight and my eyes aren't what they used to be. Who gives a sh!te anyways, Foggy Nelson was always Oliver Platt, without him the only plus point is Michael Clark-Duncan. the film is doomed.
April 15, 2002, 4:49 a.m. CST
Ya know, I'm thinking as long as we don't ever see Ben's dead, soulless eyes this could work. They got the hair right... Now in reply to TrevorAngelus, no - Jessica Alba looks Portuguese, not remotely Greek. And Val Kilmer's way too old for Daredevil. Also, he just looks too much like Val to play an established character. Now Affleck, he's more of a blank slate - and though I loathe most of his movie choices since EVER, it could have been a whole lot worse. Freddie Prinze anyone? Let's at least say Ben is a competent actor. While he'll never be a true star for precisely the reason I stated - no strong personality of his own on screen - I think his anonymity will work rather well here.
April 15, 2002, 5:30 a.m. CST
Heck, I'd go so far saying, that I'm getting really interested now. --- I really don't care for Ben Affleck's acting, but this looks different. --- And all you guys talking about this being a Photoshop work... erm, ask yourself a question first: WHY? Why should this be fake? Who would profit from faking up this picture? Wouldn't there be some better material to create some beautiful 'funny' internet hoax? --- Now, if someone really wanted to fool you, and he/she'd be talented enough with Photoshop, you'd be fooled! You would eat it up. I would eat it up, no doubt. The only thing to prevent being suckered in is calmly asking yourself questions like the above. It's called reason, and prevents mankind to go insane. --- And again: If this is fake, then someone spent far too valuable hours on Photoshop, for a really lame as can be joke. YAWN. BTW I've spent far too much time typing this simple post. Whoopdishit.
April 15, 2002, 5:32 a.m. CST
Almost like the Murdock that Queseda drew in the Kev Smith issues. Except for the blonde hair and red glasses. Favreau looks nothing like the Foggy that I've seen. Could just be the shot though. I think Harry Knowles with a haircut woulda been a perfect Foggy :p
April 15, 2002, 5:43 a.m. CST
by Rhett Butler
Foggy is whispering to Matt; " Three paces to your left, avoid the steaming mess on the ground." "No wait, that's the Tomb Raider franchise..."
April 15, 2002, 6:06 a.m. CST
It's almost embarrassing what goes for news here these days...
April 15, 2002, 6:58 a.m. CST
by Cash Bailey
Favs looks the bomb, yo! I would have loved Sean Astin as Foggy but the Favs will do just fine. Now if only they can get rid of that white-bread prom queen they've cast as Elektra.
April 15, 2002, 6:59 a.m. CST
If they can't get that small detail right, what else will be fucked up?!?
April 15, 2002, 7:03 a.m. CST
Val would be better than Affleck (wouldn't anybody?), but he already played a blind character in another movie and that ego-maniac wouldn't want to have to method-act a second time.
April 15, 2002, 7:28 a.m. CST
by Frank Black
Am quite stunned at how good that looks. Hmmm. But you'll never convince me Damon's OK.
April 15, 2002, 7:46 a.m. CST
The picture is fine. Looks like straight out of the comic book. All we need next is Elektra kicking ass and Bullseye. As well as Michael Clark Duncan.
April 15, 2002, 8:27 a.m. CST
by Chilli Kramer
Freddie Prinze Jr. Hah! Betcha didn't expect that! I really meant Bruce of course. Actually, I think Matt looks good here, as does Foggy. Ben & Jon are strangely apt as the 'real' versions of them. On the evidence of one pic at least. Now, I wanna see costumed pics. DD and Bullseye, I really want to see. But I'd do anything, even watch 'Wing Commander' to see an Elektra pic!
April 15, 2002, 8:37 a.m. CST
Affleck is okay. It's a shame you are all a bunch of needledick dorks trying to lash out and get what little revenge you can get for years of imagined torment at the hands of "jocks" who probably didin't give a rat's ass. Affleck can act and at least he gets laid.
April 15, 2002, 8:41 a.m. CST
I am a real FAN of Daredevil. I own ALL the comics (yes, starting with #1), statues, toys, even the fucking "Trial of The Incredible Hulk" DVD (first Daredevil live appearance, a disaster), and you can
April 15, 2002, 8:51 a.m. CST
I hope the director reads all these negative posts becuase i hope this film FAILS MISERABLY.Affleck is worse then dolph lungrun or whatever the fuck his name was who played the punisher back some 10 years ago.The casting is so god awful i hope it doesnt even make of what it cost to produce that piece of shit.Dont get me wrong i love DD but i prey this movie is as bad as batman and robin.....NOW CHILL.
April 15, 2002, 8:56 a.m. CST
..Foggy should be a tub-Not the buff SWINGERS-ERA Favreau.And,Matt's hair is a subtle red.But I've GOT to see THE suit.That will make or break the deal.
April 15, 2002, 9:34 a.m. CST
Seriously, how much can anyone tell from a random movie still. It doesn't look great, it doesn't look bad... It's just a still. As for the Affleck bashers, I wonder how many people on this forum have an Academy Award, cash 10 million dollar cheques for their roles and find time to star in Kevin Smith's flicks... Damn, Affleck should hire me as his lawyer...
April 15, 2002, 9:55 a.m. CST
...and that isn't a bad thing. Not at all.
April 15, 2002, 10 a.m. CST
...Pathetic. Tell you what- why don't we send a few reporters over to your place and sniff around for a bit? Then we'll take your phonebill with the calls to all those 900 numbers, or your prior record of arrests, or the testimony of ex girlfriends who now despise you, and we'll air them on national TV. Then we'll print them in every trashy rag in the country. When that phase is completed, we'll farm your name and your "lurid story" out to the talk show hosts. Who will harp on what should be a private matter for months on end. They'll bring it up when you go for interviews. You'll have anonymous assholes bitching about you on the internet. And the whole time this is going on, you'll also be fighting an addiction that's lifelong and insidious. The kind of addiction that never, ever goes away. And you'll have to put up with it. How does that sound? Good?
April 15, 2002, 10:03 a.m. CST
and he doesn't even know it. sk
April 15, 2002, 10:09 a.m. CST
Affleck can act when cast in the right part. Unfortunately Affleck doesn't put 100% into a lot of projects. Now, should we universally hate him? No. Should we give him a shot? Yes. Will this movie be any good? Probably not. I don't think Daredevil is that good of a comic to translate to film. The source material, while good, is not really movie material. There are great themes in many comic characters, but when you look at Daredevil, he's little more than a Batman rip off. Even his orgin is a little Batman-esque, as are his rogue's gallery. Elektra is a more scantily clad Catwoman. And his whole hook, the ":justice is blind" metaphor. Subtle. Spiderman, Superman, Batman, Hulk, all of these guys have interesting and unique origins and backgrounds. Daredevil, Punisher, Iron Fist, and a lot of these silver age heroes are little more than golden age retreads. Therefore, how good can the movies of these retreads be?
April 15, 2002, 10:13 a.m. CST
Affleck can act. Quite well, actually. At the very least he excells more in his chosen craft than the majority of bitter talkbackers do (yeah, that includes me, fartknockers). I'm hoping this does well. I'd love to see a Tobey/Ben Spiderman/Daredevil flick. Might bring back a little of that old Marvel Team-Up magic. Better yet, if Hulk is a hit, we could get a Tobey/Ben/Eric/ Spiderman/Daredevil/Hulk/ pic, with lots of Kirsten Dunst, Jennifer Garner, and Jennifer Connelly thrown in the mix for good measure.
April 15, 2002, 11:38 a.m. CST
by Chilli Kramer
Marc Price, you're pathetic. Like you've never had too many beers. Ever heard of Richard Burton, Lee Marvin, AQnthony Hopkins. All great actors who had their troubles with drink. Leave Ben alone. At least he's man enough to admit his problem.
April 15, 2002, 11:48 a.m. CST
not very fluid.
April 15, 2002, 12:07 p.m. CST
Question: "How many movies do I have to sit through with this shikker slurring his way through the script?" Answer: None. Don't go see the movie if you think he'll be terrible. Don't see ANY of his movies. Do you enjoy torture? You obviously loathe the man. I don't like every actor that appears on film. But I don't attack them anonymously and savagely for being human and for making mistakes. I've seen friends and family destroyed by alcohol because they couldn't make their lives work without it. People with ordinary lives that could deal with their issues in private and without fear of public reproach. Affleck is dealing with it on a level that you will NEVER have to experience in your life. For that, you should be monumentally grateful.
April 15, 2002, 12:16 p.m. CST
Or is that just for this movie?
April 15, 2002, 12:19 p.m. CST
Fearsme, you don't think DD is "that good of a comic to translate to film"? Fair enough. It's far from the greatest comic ever. But a Batman rip-off? O.K., his Dad is murdered by thugs and he dedicates himself to being a top-notch crime-fighter (by that criteria, Spider-Man is a Batman rip-off). I think the similarities end there, at least as DD was originally conceived. Remember, this was 1964. At that time, Batman was a very different fellow from the humorless, bone-breaking shadow-hugger we see today. I believe the connections you are seeing between DD and DK can, in large part, be credited to/blamed on Frank Miller, of whose run on the Man Without Fear, ANY portion is movie material IMO. Finally, in defense of "Golden Age retreads", I believe the good ones far outweigh the bad. I love the Silver-Age Flash, Green Lantern, Atom, Spectre, Captain America, Human Torch, Sub-Mariner, Vision, Angel, etc.
April 15, 2002, 12:44 p.m. CST
by Sod Off Baldric
Foggy isn't wearing a bow-tie, for God's sake! It's blasphemy! ****** Actually, I'm kidding. While I don't hold much hope for this flick, I'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt until I start seeing some previews. I may no hit it in the theater, but I'll check it out on DVD. If nothing else, if this movie sucks at least I have my TPBs of Miller's and Smith's run on the comics and I can go back and read them anytime I want.
April 15, 2002, 12:49 p.m. CST
I read it in a piece he did promoting Dinner For Five. He looks to be the right size. Let's just hope the rest of the film is on par with his acting.
April 15, 2002, 1 p.m. CST
by Buzz Maverik
Elston Gunn said Coolio was cast and I think he'd be perfect as Turk, the low level Kingpin flunkie whom DD always beats information out of, with Andy Richter as Turk's dim witted accomplice Grotto, who has the good sense to be afraid of DD (TURK:"Daredevil's not so tough! GROTTO:"Turk, Dardevil is plenty tough.").
April 15, 2002, 1:15 p.m. CST
by The Night Raven
I still haven't seen anything to suggest that this won't work! Y'know the teaser trailer's supposed out in June or July. I'll wait.
April 15, 2002, 1:32 p.m. CST
by Devils Halo
he's missing the bowtie. i think that would really sell it for me. he's a great choice nonetheless. affleck.. well, time will tell.
April 15, 2002, 2 p.m. CST
Fuck the bow tie. Look at him. He rules as Foggy. Affleck looks damn good too. He looks *dare I say it* "money" next to Mr. Favs.
April 15, 2002, 2:08 p.m. CST
This is what it looks like when a film maker gets it right kids!!! Fuck Spidey... here comes The Man Without Fear!!! Born Again folks... Born Again
April 15, 2002, 2:26 p.m. CST
I'd just like a chance to say....Shut Up. Seriously Ben Affleck is awesome. He is a freakin ham, but that doesn't make him a horrible actor. I guess the fact that his new movie is this weeks top grossing at the box office means nothing. Niether does the Oscar sitting on his shelf. Niether does all the money and women he has. As for the Bastard calling him a drunk. Lets see, He noticed he was starting to have a problem, one his father struggled with, and checked Himself into a rehab program to get help. Yep sounds like a drunk to me. At least he had the balls to say "I have a problem" and get help unlike half these Overpaid actors who have to be arrested and sent to court 6 or 7 times before they are forced to get help. Personally I think this movie is going to rock, not because of this one picture but because of the freakin awesome cast. It also helps that Ben has been a fan sincce he was a kid.
April 15, 2002, 2:35 p.m. CST
the murder of "Battlin' Jack" Murdock is sort of integral to Matt's decision to become a costumed vigilante. I agree that it is rather ubiquitous as a plot device. I think SOMETHING is required however, to justify and make believable an ostensibly sane and non-bulletproof man's choice to don a set of tights and go traipsing off ater hardened criminals armed only with a queer (as in strange, not gay) little stick that looks like it may bear the Renco or Popeil brand name.
April 15, 2002, 2:35 p.m. CST
MarckPrice your a jackass. Simply put. HAve you ever struggled with an addiction of any kind. Obviously not or you would realize that Ben is dealing with this in a way thousands of people can't. Not only has he handled his addiction wonderfully, but he's continued going on with his life, which can sometimes be harder than admitting you have a problem. It's sad to me that because he's famous and has money and talent, that no-talent assclowns like you bad mouth him and create rumors and complain about him. If you don't like him, don't go see his movies, don't comment on his pictures, just completely ignore him. You are in no way forced to have anything to do with Ben Affleck, so quit your bitchin and SHUT UP. LeeScoresby: ROCK ON!
April 15, 2002, 2:43 p.m. CST
by Trav McGee
...Why not just hire Peter Krause? I admit it, I'm looking for any thin excuse to get my personal cast-choice in there. Well, since he's cementedly got the gig I'll suck it up and root for Benji. Favreau certainly looks, er, puffed up. Is he really doing a DeNiro for a sidekick role, or is that suit inflatable?
April 15, 2002, 2:49 p.m. CST
by Monkey Lover
These two look cool. This movie looks to be cool. Finally it seems we are getting some kickass superhero movies, all from Marvel. While DC technically have two of the best characters, the films of them generally suck. Damn, how hard can it be to make a decent Batman film? But Spider-Man, Daredevil and Hulk are gonna kick some ass. Nice.
April 15, 2002, 2:52 p.m. CST
by Buzz Maverik
Ben was an okay once he learned not to touch my stuff and not to speak to or look at me until I'd acknowledged him first. We had some cool visitors-- Matt, of course; Ben's brother Casey Affleck who is apparently an actor himself; Kevin Smith, who stayed in his "Silent Bob" persona and didn't speak during the entire visit; Gwyneth Paltrow sent her assistant, which was nice. I felt kind of bad about using Ben as a human shield when I busted out.
April 15, 2002, 2:56 p.m. CST
My lord. Give me the Daredevil from the Incredible Hulk TV Movie over these two fucks any day.
April 15, 2002, 2:57 p.m. CST
by Frank Black
...who are ripping on Affleck for his alcholism, I hope you never have to be under that kind of scrutiny and have someone rip on you for your weaknesses. Despite how I feel about his performances, Affleck has dealt with his alcoholism with maturity and grace. Its called growing up, and its something many of you should do. Alcohol abuse is a huge problem and it takes a lot of courage to deal with it. It doesn't take any courage to spew hatred at someone you don't know that can't defend himself. You people used to be about the movies.
April 15, 2002, 3:04 p.m. CST
by Buzz Maverik
That's a big one in the rec room here at Promises. I always vote for PETTICOAT JUNCTION myself but I never win.
April 15, 2002, 3:04 p.m. CST
Just looking over the topics in the TB are depressing enough. So many of you are just bound and determined to hate Ben Afleck no matter what. Well, all I can offer is at least they look convincing, which is better than what we've been offered in other comic opuses gone wrong. Everyone needs to seriously chill.
April 15, 2002, 3:22 p.m. CST
It's one pic of two people at the top of some stairs. Are you naysayers all clairvoyant or something? Sweet Jeebus! Wait until the movie comes out before bitchin' 'bout it. Yes Affleck sucks as an actor. Yes he has no ability to convey emotion convincingly on film. However, if you watch him in a film such as Pearl Harbor you will see that if a film is good enough it can overcome his pathetic acting. Coming from me that statement means something. I before seeing P.H. would sooner have scooped out my own eyes before casting Affleck as DD. Now I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Just wait until you have more to base your opinion on before showing the posters on this site what a scrotum swallower you are and complaining about something you haven't seen yet. And one last thing on a unrelated topic, but one which burns my nuts, Jack Durden(!) please pick up a book and stop accepting what Hollywood feeds you as the truth. Read Fight Club (the book!) and you will see that the narrator is never named. Jack is the generic name of whatever organ is being written about in an article the narrator is reading. HIS NAME IS NOT JACK!!!! SWEET HOLY $#!%!! That really irritates me when people say that! AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHH(trails of into stream of swear words and incomprehensible animal like grunts).
April 15, 2002, 3:32 p.m. CST
Both the glasses and his hair look like they could be red.
April 15, 2002, 3:58 p.m. CST
by Chilli Kramer
...for reminding me where I'd heard Marc Price's name before. Choc Chip AND Maple Syrup ones. I'd rather room with Affleck than Furlong. I'd room with either before Skippy though. That boy seriously needs a drink. Ben's clean off it now; I've no idea how Skippy can tell he's hittin' the hooch from one pic.
April 15, 2002, 4:15 p.m. CST
I've only read 2 Daredevil stories in my lifetime, but they're doozies, Frank Miller's "Born Again" and Kevin Smith's "Gaurdian Devil". But, so far, the casting on this baby seems to be pretty good. And besides, Affleck was the bomb in phantoms.
April 15, 2002, 4:39 p.m. CST
I'm amazed that people can't see through this talentless hack. It's not even his alcoholism that I have a problem with , I mean the guy's only human. It's his crappy acting and screen persona. This guy CANNOT ACT. He is NOT AN ACTOR. His self-awareness kills whatever fims he is in. He isn't even a Movie Star. Movie Stars should be larger than life. He isn't a man's man. He has zero charisma. There are people more qualified that act in regional theatres around the country that are more talented than this guy. He just grew up with the right people and graduated from the right High School. He played a charming ensemble role in Chasing Amy and was perfect for the part, but to keep handing him these A-list roles is ridiculous. I challenge anyone on this board to prove that they don't know anyone in REAL LIFE that is more talented and charismatic than Ben Affleck.
April 15, 2002, 5:04 p.m. CST
by Raven Jessamy
1) Ben Afflec can act, watch Dogma if you don't believe me; I was never a fan of his until I saw that and I discovered that he grows on you (rather like a fungus). 2) Try and find anyone else big enough to fit the role of Kingpin that wouldn't look hideous with a shaved head, (name of MCD basher here), you racist bastard. 3) Ben wanted to do the red hair thing, but the higher-ups decided that they wouldn't be able to make it convincing, so there was a compromise on meduim/dark auburn. 4) With her black hair and the right makeup, I think Jennifer Garner would make a great Elektra. 5) Whoever it was that said he hated Kevin Smith obviously has no sense of humor.
April 15, 2002, 5:33 p.m. CST
by St Buggering
"I challenge anyone on this board to prove that they don't know anyone in REAL LIFE that is more talented and charismatic than Ben Affleck". Actually, Einstein, it's technically impossible to prove a negative. You cannot prove to me that unicorns don't exist. Does that mean they do?
April 15, 2002, 5:45 p.m. CST
My comment was of course, rhetorical. I was merely stating that films stars used to have a larger than life persona. Affleck was best suited to the charming little comedies of Kevin Smith. To have him as a leading man and paring him with Samuel L Jackson or "women" actresses looks goofy. In the 70's we had Newman and Redford. Here in the new millenium we have Alleck and Damon. See the difference?
April 15, 2002, 5:52 p.m. CST
April 15, 2002, 6:13 p.m. CST
by St Buggering
Yes, in those days, we did have Newman and Redford. And in the 40's we had Bogart. But you know what? Every era also had a bevy of low-talent movie stars who made it big for no readily apparent reason. These "golden ages", where every movie star was terrifically talented and deserving of their success, exists only in the memories of people who want to rip on the Hollywood of today. If you can tell me with a straight face that Tyrone Power deserved to be a movie star as much as Humphrey Bogart did, I'll concede the point. But ya can't, can ya? The truth is, Hollywood really hasn't changed that much where it counts. Undeserving people become stars; it's always been that way, and it always will. Although for my money, I like Affleck, and he can be a movie star if it's up to me.
April 15, 2002, 6:19 p.m. CST
FRIST Has a BEER and CHEETS on his MURDOCK. Um, doesn't Cyclops have red glasses?
April 15, 2002, 6:19 p.m. CST
And Favreau looks perfect!!!
April 15, 2002, 6:36 p.m. CST
The glasses ARE red in the photo, at least that's the way they look to me. They're just a REALLY dark red. Yeah, whatever... Call me crazy...
April 15, 2002, 6:45 p.m. CST
Affleck can act -- but not convincingly. I can act too -- like an idiot. Plus he has the charisma of a black hole... he literally sucks the life out of any scene he's in. He has tried to be funny (bothhis roles in Jay and Silent Bob) but suckseeded only in being TOTALLY ANNOYING (as yelled by Jerry Stiller)! That hair makes him look like a gay, blind hairdresser. Affleck can only be passable playing assholes and dicks (for some strange reason. Happy Festivus everybody.
April 15, 2002, 6:50 p.m. CST
In a discussion of Ben Affleck the phrases "low-talent movie stars who made it big for no apparent reason" and "Undeserving people become stars" or a reference to "Tyrone Power" appear in the same paragraph. I was trying to recognize that Ben Affleck is just such a person and that it's odd that he still sells tickets. I think audiences are more sophisticated now than they were back then. For the quality actor that he is, he seems to getting to much work and of the wrong kind.
April 15, 2002, 6:53 p.m. CST
Wow, I thought they were still in pre-production. Don't know what to make of this pic -- they look a bit stiff. I'm a big Daredevil fan so I hope they can pull it off.
April 15, 2002, 7:03 p.m. CST
by St Buggering
I'm making your job too easy. Still, I'm not so sure you can say that today's audiences are more sophisticated. I mean, Adam Sandler's getting $25 million a picture, how sophisticated can they be? I'm certainly not saying that things aren't fucked up, just that they're not any WORSE than they used to be. I mean, how many good movies did Jerry Lewis actually make? But he was wildly successful at the time.
April 15, 2002, 7:18 p.m. CST
by Ambush Bug
First off, I am very excited about this film. Sure, Affleck wasn't my first pick, but if he is as dedicated as he says, I am willing to give him a chance. I haven't seen Changing Lanes, but I hear Affleck is pretty good in it and Sum of All Fears sounds great too. Favreau will no doubt epitomize Foggy. He is the second banana type of actor with talent that will bring something special to this role. The pic looks pretty good. Can't wait to see the suit. Hopefully they won't go all Flash-like. I seriously don't know how they are going to go all traditional with the suit and not be laughed off the screen. It will be an interesting production to follow, but if the script is as good as Harry and Co. are creaming about, I expect good things. And Harry, one little correction, I believe during Frank Miller's run on DD (the run that the script is supposedly based on), MAtt Murdoch wore green shades, not red. Lately, the MArvel Knights version of Matt wears some crimson specs, but back then when he was banging Elektra, Matt wore shades of green to cover those not so blind eyes. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. Bug out.
April 15, 2002, 7:55 p.m. CST
by Virgil Sollozzo
Why the fuck are they squeezing the three best major villains into one movie? I bet Kingpin and Bullseye die and only Elektra will be left for a sequel. FUCK THAT!
April 15, 2002, 8:05 p.m. CST
by Virgil Sollozzo
MarcPrice, FUCK YOU. You are a fucking dick. I mean weve all been dicks before but come on, where in any movie has Ben Affleck been visibly drunk or even buzzed when the script didnt call for it? Attack his ability to act if you must but at least hes admitting he has a problem and is trying to deal with it. I bet a lot of your Favorite actors have far worse problems, theyre just not man enough to admit it. Like fucking Affleck's the first last and only drunk to hit the acting scene. What i suppose on your weekends you're fucking Prohibiton Patty or something? Lets all pry into your private live and see what kind of shit there is for us to judge and mock.
April 15, 2002, 8:18 p.m. CST
being "frist" is like having a big slice of pecan pie and a glass of milk while being pleasured by the playmate of your choice. You should really try it sometime.
April 15, 2002, 8:24 p.m. CST
I looked all over the internet looking for Turk on the internet but I can't find anything.
April 15, 2002, 8:30 p.m. CST
I mean sure he's pasty, but just not pasty enough.
April 15, 2002, 8:46 p.m. CST
by Virgil Sollozzo
Theyd better keep Bullseye's comic book look, with the mask, tights, white boots and gloves etc, so that he looks like daredevil's evil, hornless seeing counterpart. I dont want to see Colin Farrel with some slick pulp fiction hitman type look.
April 15, 2002, 10:25 p.m. CST
I can name someoen who's better suited for Kingpin. In fact he is the bar-none perfect guy for him. He already is huge and is bald- and can be completely bad-ass: Chi Mcbride! He plays the principle on Boston Public. Surprisingly, he too is black. Too me this should have nothing to do with color, and had they picked Mcbride for the role it would have been the equivalent of picking Stewart for Prof.X. Too bad. I like MCD and as long as the parts well written he'll be ok. My problems w/ him lie in two areas though: 1) He seems too young. Mcbride is the perfect age. 2)Althought he's big and bald, he isn't round enough. I know the Kingpins all muscle, but he still has too be massivly round. Still, I'm not gonna throw a tantrum. I like Affleck, and really dig Favourue, and this will hopefully kick ass.
April 15, 2002, 10:44 p.m. CST
April 16, 2002, 12:48 a.m. CST
Instead of arguing every little point I make, why don't you just tell me why you're a huge Ben Affleck fan? To suggest that "audiences are not more sophisticated now as opposed to the past" I find untrue. If Jerry Lewis were to release his brand of comedy now in the millenium, it would bomb. Why? Audiences are more sophisticated in their tastes.
April 16, 2002, 1:13 a.m. CST
Can someone please quote me some cool Ben Affleck lines from some Ben Affleck movies?
April 16, 2002, 2:30 a.m. CST
marc price, what the fuck is your problem? did some boozehound with a resemblance to ben affleck steal your best porno mag, piss in your soup or screw your mother? in the kevin smith vernacular, you're a fucking cock-knocker, pal. or are you just jealous that someone's making major bank and enjoying a few cocktails while you stagger back to your one-room shithole after a night full of cheap beer to throw up and jerk off? jesus, what a fucking tosser. and jaguart, try affleck's last 'good will hunting' speech if you want "cool dialogue" - beautifully written and performed by the same guy. now shut the fuck up, both of you.
April 16, 2002, 2:56 a.m. CST
When you suck on Affleck's dick, does his semen taste like bourbon or are you underage still? And since you're such a huge fan, how bout quotin' some of that dialogue? You know, the stuff you say outloud during late-night previews of Pearl Harbor after your parents go to sleep. Make sure your folks don't catch you with those Tiger Beat magazines under your matress or they'll send you to therapy.
April 16, 2002, 3:08 a.m. CST
by St Buggering
How would quoting cool dialogue from an Affleck film prove anything? Generally speaking, actors don't write their own dialogue. Affleck did it once, but for the most part, his best dialogue was written by Kevin Smith. Even DeNiro has mouthed bad dialogue, does that make him a bad actor? Why do film geeks feel qualified to rank on artists when they don't even understand the artists' jobs? If audiences are so much more sophisticated now, why is Michael Bay employed? How many licks does it take to get to the chewy center of a Tootsie Pop? The world may never know.
April 16, 2002, 3:54 a.m. CST
techincally, he said that on the commentary track on Mallrats. (best commentary track on a DVD evah!) but anyway, I like him in all of Kevin Smith's flicks. He's great as Shanon Hamilton, Holden-Fucking-McNiel and Bartleby (and he's really funny on the DVD commentary tracks too. He was *really* needed for the "Jay And Silent Bob" track). As for Non-Kevin Smith stuff . . . hmmmmmm . . . I dug his little slightly-larger-than-a-cameo role in "Boiler Room". "Those who say money can't buy happiness, look at the fucking smile on my face. Ear to ear, baby." And he had some good lines (which he co-wrote)in "Good Will Hunting" also. "Look, you're my best friend, so don't take this the wrong way. In twenty years, if you're still livin' here, comin' over to my house to watch the Patriots games, still workin' construction, I'll fuckin' kill you. That's not a threat. Now, that's a fact. I'll fuckin' kill you." Anyhoo, the guy is a Dardevil geek (see the intro to the Gaurdian Devil trade papberback), as opposed to Halie Berry bitching how she was "reduced" to playing the role of Storm in X-Men. The thing I can say about Affleck is that he can either be really good (see any Kevin Smith flick or Good Will Hunting) or very bad (see Armagedon or Pearl Harbor). He's somewhat inconsistent in the roles he plays but can pull it off once in awhile. Personally, I'm hoping Dardevil goes for the former. . .
April 16, 2002, 4:07 a.m. CST
I'm glad I have you here to ask me questions and assume I'm, you know, ignorant. Kinda help me along, and tell me the stuff I don't "seem to get". As a fanboy, I choose not to comment on the menswear used in the film but rather comment on the actor in it. Usually a good actor can take that dialogue and make it his own and make a performance memorable. Besides the "Fuckin Patriots" speech at the end of "Good Will Cliche" Affleck has done nothing notable. Sure he spilled his guts to Joey Lauren Adams in Chasing Amy. But the guy is being overused and marketed as an A-List actor and leading man in blockbuster films. Which he ain't. To me he'll always be the guy that Banky wanted to hump and have dessert parties with. He should be on network television, he is not a film star. ---- If you take a Michael Bay film and send it back to 1965 audiences would go nutso over it, and probabaly even be a little confused by it, since that was before MTV. Even the mediocrity of today has a level of "sophistication" over the considered norm of 30 years ago, and that includes the work of Michael Bay.---- Even DeNiro's shit dialogue is remembered over Affleck's best scenes. Because that guy has screen presence. Affleck IS NOT MEMORABLE AS AN ACTOR. That is what I'm trying to express. I don't see too many people here on these boards swooning over his presence in films, no one is saying Affleck? Daredevil? Allright! This is gonna rock with Ben Affleck in it! It's a sure fire hit! NO ONE GIVES A SHIT EXCEPT FOR THAT GUY WHO JACKS OFF TO TIGER BEAT MAGAZINE. I'll never buy a ticket to a film he's "starring" in unless he's part a a more talented cast. And why do posters that ask me questions not voice their heartfelt appreciation for the fine work of Ben Affleck, the hottest prospect in Hollywood? Tell me Mr Buggering, why the attraction to this guy that should be on daytime soaps?
April 16, 2002, 4:31 a.m. CST
The reason that Affleck is stiff-legged is that he's "acting". For the record, I think the guy is fun in Kevin Smith films, except when they refer to him as some movie star as in Jay and Silent Bob, where he was pathetic in that. Kevin Smith films aren't noted for their great acting but rather the engaging dialogue and odd subject matter. I also thought Jason Lee was good in Almost Famous.
April 16, 2002, 5:18 a.m. CST
When the biggest hits of the past few years are children's/family films, and the most colossal box office giant (and, if we're trying to discuss, discern and quantify the generality that is "audiences today, we're going to have to go with box office grosses being the barometer of the mean average) is the pretty entertaining/entertainingly pretty -to-look-at-but-not-particularly-sophisticated 'Titanic' (for what it's worth, a complete throwback to the days of old), I'm thinking that audiences today are not at all any more (or less) sophisticated than they were in "good/bad/indifferent old days." What we *do* have today is a lot more specialization in different sub-genres of sub-genres of given genres, where there aren't too many huge, beloved-by-all classics, but there are films for everyone to get behind in some form. (For instance, 50 years ago no one would've bothered to make a DareDevil flick, because he's a relatively small-to-medium-sized superhero, and not one of the Big Three that are more universally known; in the Universal Conscience, there isn't room for more than one or two archetypes). Also, remember an important point that we 'net savvy fools tend to lose sight of: if you're online on a daily (or near-daily) basis, and you're reading stuff like AICN, Dark Horizons, Drudge, or even Variety or THP, you're approximately 4 billion light-years beyond (in a sense, 'more sophisticated than') your average moviegoer, and regardless of what the pundits tell you, we don't (yet) make up the deciding factor, dollar-wise, in the Box Office Elections. // In other words, I don't care if you like Mr. Affleck or hate him, *your* dollars don't buy as much of a casting decision in a mid-budget flick like 'DareDevil' as do the "average audience", and they kind of like Ben. Funny thing is, if not for Ben, Favreau and Jennifer Garner, you wouldn't see this film getting made at all. So either give it a chance and be glad that a.) it's getting made, and b.) noted cast and crew are actually way into the source material, or *bitch about the color of his motherfucking glasses*. Oh, wait- you've decided already.... // e. (P.s.- And, of course, you know that most of the world probably look at you funny when, while describing B.A. as "lifeless", "cardboard", and "two-dimensional", you oppose his casting as.....a comic book character). Thhppt.
April 16, 2002, 5:21 a.m. CST
You know, I'm a recovering alcoholic, and I have to say that MarcPrice's comments were pretty god-damned funny. // e.
April 16, 2002, 10:14 a.m. CST
what a bunch of spoiled little babies. it doesn't matter who had been cast in this movie, the same brats pizzing and moaning now would be doing just the same. nothing is ever good enough for these whiners, and ever since their mommies weened them they've been crying over one thing or another. for all their bitching and crying about the casting, you notice they don't make any suggestions as to who they think would have been better for the roles. why? cause they would have cryed and bitched no matter who was cast. Duncan as Kingpin is a great move and will nail the part. Affleck may not be the world's greatest actor but he's far from the worst, looks the part better than anyone else, and has been a fan of the material since he was a kid so he'll have a decent feel for the character. before LOTR came out the same group of people were bitching and moaning about anything they could think of about the casting and script. and guess what? Jackson turned out a hell of a movie, thanks to the fact that he and many others involved were fans of the material and treated it with respect. i see the same thing happening with Daredevil, as many of the main players involved are long time DD fans. so, all you little whiners, go get your pacifier from your mommy and keep your whining to yourself.
April 16, 2002, 11:49 a.m. CST
Here, here. Let's see if Favreau can take this film to the next level.
April 16, 2002, 1:02 p.m. CST
What Affleck film is that from?
April 16, 2002, 3:17 p.m. CST
Jaguart, your jackass, every actor chooses some bad movie with poorly written dialogue at some point in their career. So back of Affleck. You want some great Ben Affleck Dialogue well here you go it's what you asked for: Chasing Amy (1997) Holden McNeil: I love you. And not, not in a friendly way, although I think we're great friends. And not in a misplaced affection, puppy-dog way, although I'm sure that's what you'll call it. I love you. Very, very simple, very truly. You are the epitome of everything I have ever looked for in another human being. And I know that you think of me as just a friend, and crossing that line is the furthest thing from an option you would ever consider. But I had to say it. I just, I can't take this anymore. I can't stand next to you without wanting to hold you. I can't, I can't look into your eyes without feeling that, that longing you only read about in trashy romance novels. I can't talk to you without wanting to express my love for everything you are. And I know this will probably queer our friendship - no pun intended - but I had to say it, because I've never felt this way before, and I don't care. I like who I am because of it. And if bringing this to light means we can't hang out anymore, then that hurts me. But God, I just, I couldn't allow another day to go by without just getting it out there, regardless of the outcome, which by the look on your face is to be the inevitable shoot-down. And, you know, I'll accept that. But I know...I know that some part of you is hesitating for a moment, and if there is a moment of hesitation, then that means you feel something too. All I ask, please, is that you just, you just not dismiss that - and try to dwell in it for just ten seconds. Alyssa, there isn't another soul on this fucking planet who has ever made me half the person I am when I'm with you, and I would risk this friendship for the chance to take it to the next plateau. Because it is there between you and me. You can't deny that. Even if, you know, even if we never talk again after tonight, please know that I'm forever changed because of who you are and what you've meant to me, which - while I do appreciate it - I'd never need a painting of birds bought at a diner to remind me of.
April 16, 2002, 3:19 p.m. CST
April 16, 2002, 3:21 p.m. CST
Here's some more for ya. Dogma(1999) Bartleby: The humans have besmirched everything bestowed on them. They were given Paradise, they threw it away. They were given this planet, they destroyed it. They were favored best among all His endeavors, and some of them don't even believe He exists! And in spite of it all, He's shown them infinite fucking patience at every turn. What about us? I once asked you to lay down the sword because I felt sorry for them. What was the result? Our expulsion from Paradise! WHERE WAS HIS INFINITE FUCKING PATIENCE THEN?! IT'S NOT FAIR! We've paid our debt. Don't you think it's time we went home?
April 16, 2002, 4:01 p.m. CST
And you have wooden ole' Affleck. Nice try, jackass.
April 16, 2002, 4:07 p.m. CST
Than to have Ben Affleck relgated to a stock player in View Askew Productions. That's where the guy belongs. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Or would you prefer David Hasselhoff in a Merchant Ivory production as well? Ben Affleck is being over used and miscast, he is getting too much work and of the wrong kind for the level talent he is. Jackass.
April 16, 2002, 6:31 p.m. CST
IT looks stiff??? NO SHIT. ITs a picture, 1 fram. Not moving. DUHR!! . IT looks fucking normal. 2 people walking down a street and 1 guy blind. What the fuck is wrong with u people. Seriously i bet u wanted them to be walking in a very special pose with the best suits and shit. Please just shutup. 7-11 suit? wtf. seroiusly how dorky can people be.
April 16, 2002, 6:47 p.m. CST
by Walter Sobchek
I have one idea for Kingpin that has never been mentioned, The Shield's Micheal Chiklis. He's bald and he has a Kinpin-ish build, also Daredevil should be played by Deep Blue Sea's Thomas Jane, he has the look of Murdock and he's buff, or maube, if he was younger, Cary Elwes. The hot mexican chick from Rush Hour 2 would be perfect for Electra, and Wes Bentley could make a good Bullseye, and Andy Ricther should be Foggy.
April 16, 2002, 11:13 p.m. CST
HELLO HARRY YOU'RE EXCELLENCE MAN...!!!!!! I REALLY LOVED IT..!!! HARRY YOU CAN MAKE IT..!!! FROM South east Asia Ben's fans I & my friends (about 2,000 guys) were Ben's Thailand fans. BEN AFFLECK SOOOO HOT IN THAILAND confirm by : 1.PEARL HARBOR WON FAVORITE MOVIES 2001 IN THAILAND. 2.PEARL HARBOR STILL NO.1 CD/DVD RENTAL IN THAILAND (DEC4th 2001- APRIL 16th 2002) 3.BEN'S PICS WITH RAY BAN in PEARL HARBOR SHOW INFRONT OF EVERY THE BIGGEST SPECTACLES SHOPPING MALL 3 MEGA RESULT CONFIRM BEN'S HOT We liked Ben Affleck acted in Pearl Harbor sooooooo much cause both talent & charming. We liked this Ben's pic. We loved this Ben's pic. We wanted to see DAREDEVIL. We'll wait..wait..& wait until DAREDEVIL come in Thailand. HARRY YOU DID IT THAILAND PEOPLE LOVED YOU ~from~ THAILAND & ALL OF COUNTRY IN SOUTHEAST ASIA cheer HARRY..!!!! HARRY..!!! HARRY..!!! & BEN..!! BEN..!!! God Bless You
April 16, 2002, 11:35 p.m. CST
I'm moving to Thailand. I just love Taiwanense chicks. I picked the wrong week to go off Viagra. That stuff gives you a headache.
April 17, 2002, 12:08 a.m. CST
Boo-hoo! Ben Affleck sucks! Guy Pearce should be in every comicbook movie. Daredevil, score! Batman, score! Paste-pot Pet, superscore! I'm gonna make a tasteless joke about a serious disease...right before my mom fixes dinner. Hollywood sucks! There needs to be more movies by obscure pretentious directors no one has ever heard of. Now after my daily eight hours online I'm going to take a break and jerk off to a picture of some chick that I'll never meet but that dirty fucker Afflecks probably drilled. Oh, and Harry's a sellout! ...so what did you all think? Spot-on, eh?
April 18, 2002, 1:27 a.m. CST
A LARGE NUMBER OF BEN' LOVERS. A BIT SUCK PEOPLE HATES BEN. WE LOVED BEN. WE WANTED BEN. GO AHEAD BEN>>!! BEN>>!!! BEN>>!!!! Ben's HOTTEST & MOST CHARMING ACTOR IN THE WORLD..!! I belived that Ben will has a long career in celluloid's WORLD.
April 18, 2002, 2:03 p.m. CST
You seem to promote the guy judging from your Favreau related posts
April 18, 2002, 2:04 p.m. CST
You seem to promote the guy judging from your Favreau related posts
April 18, 2002, 2:05 p.m. CST
You seem to promote the guy judging from your Favreau related posts
April 19, 2002, 10:04 a.m. CST
The validity of the photo asides, this movie has a feel of predetermined failure. Who remembers the inpsired idea of Guy Pierce as the lead? The support cast is quality, John Favreau and Colin Farrell both deliver fine performances in their movies. But what about the director of Simon Birch and Grumpy Old Men at the helm of a movie about the defender of Hell's kitchen? I hope he surprises us all. No surprise though will be the performance of Mr.Affleck, the stiffness of his legs while walking in that picture is only matched by that of his acting. Fans of the comic character can only hope that the costume described is something like DD's first attempt in the movie, soon replaced by something more akin to what we expect but not necessarliy head to toe red spandex. Affleck in spandex? be afraid, be very... you get the idea.
May 9, 2002, 10:45 p.m. CST
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS...?! YOU TALK LIKE YOU KNOW THE GUY... IN THIS CASE I'M TALKING ABOUT BEN AFFLECK! GET OFF HIS ASS DAMN... AND IF YOU GUYS ARE FANS OF THE COMIC BOOK "DAREDEVIL" ALL THE MORE POWER TO YOU... BUT YOU GUYS HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUDGE HIS ACTING IF YOU DON'T LIKE HIM... YOUR BEING BIASE AND JUDGEMENTAL, AND I DON'T MEAN TO COME OFF LIKE YOUR MOTHER BUT... IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE AND THE WAY HE'S ACTING IN IT... DON'T SAY ANYTHING UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING GOOD TO SAY... AND FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING NICE OR CLOSE TO IT... THANKS FOR NOT BEING SUCH A HUGE JACKASS... MYSELF... I DON'T REALLY LIKE THE GUY, BUT IT'S NOT YOUR PLACE TO SAY SHIT... THANKS!