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UPDATED!! Positive And Negative Reviews For NAT'L LAMPOON'S VAN WILDER!!
Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.
Yeah, I don't believe it either. But there they are. Two positive reviews of VAN WILDER. And one of these guys is a long-time spy. I would have run these yesterday, but no one would have believed me...
... which reminds me: nothing I ran yesterday was an April Fool's Day joke. The QT story is completely true. I knew you wouldn't believe it, though, so I decided to have fun and run it on the perfect day. Just wait and see, though... it's fa reeeeals. So is DUCK DODGERS. And so are these two reviews. Check out this first one:
Hey there,
I recently just got back from witnessing the resurrection of the National
Lampoon name. The film was Van Wilder. Ryan Reynolds plays the titular
character. In fact, he plays the hell out of the role. He brings the right
amount of humanity to the whole arrogant godlike persona which the character
Van Wilder inhabits. He spits the dialogue out to the audience in a furious
manner which brings even the most tepid line to life.
I'm not hailing this flick as genius; because it wasn't. It was a great
flick that definitely renews faith in the National Lampoon name, but does
not quite live up to the superior Animal House. A film that Van Wilder
desperately tries to be. In fact it has its fair share of allusions to that
icon of collegiate comedy.
There were only a few things that bothered me. One was the "asshole frat
guy" character that every college flick must have. He was Stifler from the
pastry-porno flicks, only he wasn't played by the real Stifler. He did all
right, just not Sean William Scott quality. Another thing was Tara Reid's
role. She just didn't do much with the role. It was a fairly shitty role
to begin with, but she just didn't seem to be trying. And it seemed
unbelievable that she'd be dating the pseudo-Stifler, I mentioned above.
There were also a few jokes that just didn't pan out, but I didn't expect
perfection.
Overall the movie delivered a highly successful college comedy. In fact,
the studio must believe this to be true as well. Apparently, Artisan loves this
baby, and according to the director, Walt Becker, they are already planning
a sequel. Becker, who spoke after the screening, stated that Ryan Reynolds,
and most of the other characters should be back for more. Hopefully Becker,
who seemed pretty down-to-earth, can deliver a second helping of the Van
Wilder mythos.
This film was rated "R" for "wicked-pisser" humor, brief (not enough)
topless action, and of course oversized pit-bull testicles.
Sincerely,
A Goondock SaintRyan Reynolds? Funny? Really? Spiceweasel, can you verify this?
Well, last night I finally got around to seeing a sneak preview at the
theatres, and the sneak preview of choice was "National Lampoon's Van
Wilder", a movie rotating around a man who rules his college with an
iron fist wrapped around a cold bottle of beer. He heals the sick, gets
the lame laid, and runs the kinds of fundraisers we all never got to see
in college, or at least I didn't.
Ryan Reynolds as Van Wilder himself does a great job of portraying the
guy having so much fun at college, he just doesn't want to graduate.
When his father, a man so involved with his work he has -two- personal
assistants, learns that Van is still in school after 7 years, he cuts
off the tuition payments, and Van is left to fend for himself. I won't
spoil by telling how he raises money, but I'm sure a few people out
there will agree it's a damned good idea.
Kal Penn as Taj, Van's personal assistant who happens to be an exchange
student from India, is absolutely hysterical. I'd never seen any of his
prior work, but I'm looking forward to seeing more of it in the future.
Tara Reid plays Gwen, a writer for the school paper who is tasked with
the troublesome project of writing an article on Van, which is
notoriously difficult, because he doesn't give interviews. As is the
trend with teen/college comedies of late, she also becomes the love
interest of the main character, leading to hysterical pranks between Van
and her boyfriend, pre-med fratboy Richard(Daniel Cosgrove).
Other cast members include Paul Gleason(a priceless automotive showdown)
and a cameo by Erik Estrada, which was....unexpected, if nothing else
One can't help but compare this movie to American Pie, and it shines
like I never could have even hoped. It's got clean humor(from time to
time), gross-out gags(oooooooh boy. I'm not even going into these), and
boobies. BOOBIES.
The movie also had a pretty good soundtrack, but I'm annoyed to note
some of the songs aren't on the OST available at amazon.com. Perhaps
they'll be released later, perhaps they won't, but that's not for me to
speculate.
All in all, the movie gets an enthusiast 4.5 out of 5 slices of pizza in
my book, and not only will I be buying the DVD, which will undoubtedly
be full of great extras, but I'll probably be seeing it again in the
theatres, too.
-SpiceweaselOh. Ummm... well... anyone else want to see this and report back to let me know if these guys were sharing a doobie in the parking lot, or if this is actually funny?
I'd appreciate it greatly.
Okay. All I had to do was ask. This review just showed up in my mailbox, and this guy actually seems to know his LAMPOON. I'll be honest... the reason I've been so skeptical of anything stamped with the LAMPOON name now is because I worshipped at the altar of Michael O'Donaghue and Doug Kenney and Tony Hendra and early John Hughes. I have fierce love for the classic run of the magazine. They were THE ONION long before there was an ONION. Much of what I know about humor started there and in the pages of MAD, and I know how hard it is for a corporate brand to embrace real anarchy. The time for both those publications may have passed, and with it, any real value in stamping the name on things. Here's someone who definitely did NOT love the film:
Moriarty,
RENO here with a review of NATIONAL LAMPOON'S VAN WILDER.
*Minor spoilers ahead *
Once upon a time, giants strode the land.
They bore names like Michael O'Donoghue. Brian McConnachie, Tony Hendra, Anne Beatts, Douglas C. Kenney and George W. S. Trow.
They were the giants of comedy and they were assembled under the banner of the National Lampoon. In the first half of the 1970s they tore down the old comedic establishment, and fueled by the social upheaval of the previous decade, created a new, darker, sometimes cruder, sometimes insightful more socially relevant school of comedy. Gone were the tired old "mother-in-law" jokes. These were men and women who wrote advertisement parodies which would feature a Volkswagen Beatle floating in water with the caption "If Ted Kennedy drove a Volkswagen, he'd be President by now." They were fearless.
These giants spread their reign across the land. The National Lampoon magazine created first a live stage show than a radio series and several comedy albums. It helped birth talent like John Belushi, Chevy Chase, Harry Shearer, Christopher Guest, Bill Murray, Gilda Radner, Harold Ramis, Joe Flaherty, Richard Belzer and others.
Perhaps its most popular achievement was the Lampoon's first foray into movies ANIMAL HOUSE. Every knows the story of how the off beat members of the Delta House fraternity at Faber College went on to get revenge on both the rival fraternity house and the school system as well.
But hard times fell these giants. Some became victims of their own success, never quite able to capture the spark that drove their comedic sensibilities. Both O'Donoghue and Kenney died and the world seemed a little less funny.
Soon, the magazine failed to be as relevant anymore, and much of its risqué humor was watered down to just stale sex jokes. Films bearing the National Lampoon name went from being funny like VACATION to being embarrassing like CLASS REUNION, LAST RESORT, LOADED WEAPON 1 and SENIOR TRIP.
And then there's VAN WILDER, opening this coming weekend.
Oh, how the mighty have fallen and still can't get up.
Ryan Reynolds, the one who mugged his way through the ABC crap-com TWO GUYS A GIRL AND A PIZZA PLACE, plays Van Wilder, a guy who is intent on being a career student. Enrolled in college for seven years, Van has no interest in graduating. He spends his days at various campus activities and his nights at different parties. But when his emotionally distant father cuts off his money, Van has to use his wiles to pay for college. Thrown into the mix is a pretty reporter from the campus newspaper who has been assigned to do a feature piece on the campus institution that is Van. He falls for her, she starts to fall for him and her boyfriend, the pre-med student President of the student body frat boy, get jealous.
Much like the very unfunny ROAD TRIP took a section of ANIMAL HOUSE and blew it up to feature length, so too does VAN WILDER- this time taking the Otter/Mandy/Marmalard feud and padding it out with some unfunny jokes to just barely 90 minutes.
Many of the jokes are obvious and predictable. When the frat that Tara Reid?s boyfriend is revealed to be Delta Iota Kappa, you can pretty much write the rest of the script to the film yourself. There one particular gross out moment involving éclairs that is not only not funny, but inadvertently draws unfavorable comparisons to gross out moments in THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT MARY and AMERICAN PIE. (There's also a Jason Biggs cameo in the movie too.) So much desperation by the filmmakers to appear funny and hip almost always means that they don't stand a chance in hell of being either.
As predictable as the jokes are, the plot is as well. When we see Van living it up and donating time to various campus causes in his own unique lifestyle, we just know that by the third act of the flick, when Van's chips are down, he's going to get a pick yourself up speech about what an inspiration he's been to everyone. And indeed he does get it, in a poorly written monologue from Tara Reid.
There are a few good performers in the movie that unfortunately are wasted by the material. Kal Penn, as Van's nerdy personal assistant, is good as Tom Everett Scott as the editor of the campus newspaper. (Even though he looks like he's been on campus longer than Van.) It's nice to see Curtis Armstrong get work, but I continually hope he gets offered something that really lets him cut loose and show the chops he displayed in BETTER OFF DEAD.
It has been noted that Tim Matheson's appearance in the movie is to somehow remind us of ANIMAL HOUSE and hopefully draw favorable comparisons. No such luck. If anything, it serves to show how far from the mark VAN WILDER falls.
One suspects that the filmmakers wanted Van to be an Otter for the new generation of kids, so having Matheson as his cinematic father would help ram that idea home. The fact is, Matheson is one of the principal partners in the firm that holds the rights to the Lampoon name.
Where as ANIMAL HOUSE goes for the juggler at the end of the movie, WILDER goes for the warm and fuzzy ending. This is not the Lampoon of old. This is a betrayal of what that mighty institution once stood for. Somewhere, the great Michael O'Donoghue and Douglas Kinney are spinning in their graves.
RENO out.Harsh words, but convincing. He knows his LAMPOON. For my money, ANIMAL HOUSE and VACATION are both pretty damn great, and the name's never been on anything else of note. Guess we'll see next weekend...
"Moriarty" out.
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As for this film, welllllllll...Shit, I don't know. Too many crappy college comedies have soured me on the genre as of late. It might be enjoyable...but Ryan Reynolds? Two guys, a girls and a Pizza Place? Show never convinced me he was funny.
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Via the sneak preview that was offered last saturday. It's a similar movie to American Pie as far as the gross out quotient(dude, you will never want to eat another eclair after seeing this movie, that's all I'm gonna say) and some of the humor. It's a stupid college comedy, but it has some pretty clever jokes tossed in, as if the creators knew that everyone going to see this thing wasn't a freaking idiot. Our boy Ponch aka Erik Estrada has a nice little cameo which is pretty funny. I wasn't really impressed with them casting Teck from the Real World as one of Van Wilder's partners in crime, but he can act...a little. The guy that plays Taj is seriously hilarious, though. He has that now infamous "take it through the car wash" line everyone has heard, but he has a lot more to do in the plot than you would think. The only other reason I liked this thing is because I can relate to the Van Wilder character, what with this being my 6th year in college (it's sad, I know...but I have a valid reason!!!)
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Who gives a sh1t.
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I'll see this. I hated the American Pie movies with a passion, but this seems somewhat amusing. I'll give it a shot. BUT...has anyone seen the movie "Kicking and Screaming"? In the aforementioned film, Eric Stoltz plays a perpetual student...named Chet. He decided to make being a college student his life. At any rate, most of the other characters have post-college growing pains as well. This just seems like a variation on this theme...and done much better. Personally, I thought K&S was a pretty darn witty little comedy. If you like chatty, Whit Stillman-esque comedies (with Chris Eigeman to boot), check it out.
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but it would've been so much better had Jason Lee played Van Wilder. Ryan Reynolds was doing something of a Brodie impression half the time.
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I'm sorry...I know this TB is for Van Wilder but I haven't seen anything recently on Reloaded, and I was just wondering: has anybody heard about a trailer for this attached to Minority Report? That was a rumor I heard.
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...got to keep tradition alive.
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Apr 02, 2002 12:23:35 PM CST
I saw the 'Reel Movie' special, and it looked alright
by tenaciousdrocks
I may be in the minority here, but I think Ryan Reynolds is pretty funny guy. I saw a few eps of '2 Guys a Girl' expecting some hard core pron, but instead was treated to a bad sitcom with one good actor (Reynolds). He comes off as a Chevy Chase-type to me and that isnt a bad thing as long as its pre-Funny Farm Chevy Chase...which it seemed to be. Looking forward to seeing it and hoping Nat Lampoon can actually make films worth watching again. Also the Middle Eastern personal assistant was hilarious. I love middle eastern people who try and speak ebonics. It's as easy a joke as 'ye olde fart joke' but its still good.
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...think this looks like a combination of Animal House and Saves by the Bell? Don't you look at Van Wilder and think Zack Morris? As for the reviews, bah! Still looks like shite to me. And Garth at Dark Horizons reviewed it, said it was one of the year's worst movies.
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Got passes for tomorrow. It looks ok.
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Somewhere along the line, college/high school highjinks movies decided to stop showing good, healthy amounts of tits and ass. You're more likely these days to see a guy's ass than a chick's. I'm happy to see there will be knockers in this flick, but I'm not surprised they will be few and far between. The suits in Hollywood need to start embracing nude women again. If the movie's going to get an R rating anyway for pit bull nuts, throw in a cheerleading squad locker room shower scene, a panty raid, and gratuitous sex scenes along with it. I, for one, am boycotting all of these flicks until someone grows the balls to film a college high-jinks flick with full frontal nudity (female, dammit), at least one locker room scene, and a thong wearing car-wash scene in the first hour. Stand together, men, and stand up for your rights to see tits, ass, and full frontal nudity in all your R-rated viewing! Till then, Kobe Tai or NOTHING!
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Is it me, or does Ryan Reynolds portray a very watered down verson of Ace Ventura in every role he gets his grubby mitts on? -What?!
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....she's just not talented is all.
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I got halfway through the second review before I realized I'd been reading it wrong. See I honestly thought it starred BURT Reynolds as a perpetual college student. Now, THAT I'd pay to see! sk
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Mimes I could understand, but jugglers....
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...when there's piss-your-pants exciting news about Evil Dead 4 over at Dark Horizons?
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I think MS Word would have picked up the fact that I was using ?s instead of 's, if that were indeed the case. I suspect something screwy in the coding. Rest assured, I wouldn't have let a mistake like that (Uniformly committed so it couldn't have been a one-off typo) slip by me. But what did you think of the actual text of the piece?
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Apr 02, 2002 1:57:12 PM CST
It kills you that this flick got a couple good reviews, doesn
by terry_1978
Just couldn't rest until someone informed you of how much the movie sucked, could ya Moriarty?
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Really, no one going to a movie like this should expect comedic brilliance on the level of a Michael O'Donoghue or Doug Kenney Lampoon piece. It's just another dumb teen comedy, albeit one with a higher laugh quotient than most. Ryan Reynolds definitely elevates the material and makes the movie funnier than it would have been otherwise. He has an appealing wise-ass presence reminiscent of a young Chevy Chase. If you don't go in expecting too much, you will laugh at this movie.
Mr. Smarty Pants who wrote the third review was so eager to show off his knowledge of National Lampoon history that i'm not sure if he saw the actual movie. There was no Jason Biggs cameo in the movie I saw (and I've seen it twice now, once about a month ago and again a few days ago). -
NY Post reports in it's review that the film was made prior to approaching the nationallampoon.com people( keepers of the name rights) about putting their name on the film. They paid an estimated 1million to put the national lampoon presents above the title. Lampoon people said it's like someone made a great publicity movie for our site. OH how the mighty...nat lampoon high school yearbook parody kept me laughing for years. not to mention introduced me to the joys of panty-less chearleaders.
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I saw a sneak preview of Van Wilder, and I (a national lampoon fan, knowing all their glory day and high points), consider Van Wilder to almost be an establishment of the "new" NL. I mean, come-on folks, you can't take your comedy too seriously, or it ceases to be comedy. Just remember that the last movie to bear the NL mark was "Vegas Vacation". Yeah, now how bad could a NL movie REALLY be after that abortion of a film? Yet, you can't be too lax, because then you get material like Tomcats, because you refuse to screen for quality. So we have Van Wilder, a movie that is funny, well-acted, extremely funny, and has Tara Reid in it. You must remember that this is from the best in the college flick genre. They created the genre, and if you don't agree, than you must concede they perfected it with Animal House. Now, I must say, Ryan Reynolds makes this movie worth watching (well, there is Tara Reid, but as we learned with *insert the name of any teen movie in the past two years*, you can't make a comedy on a perfect ass...). He's funny, charming, and you can instantly see why everyone at Coolidge College respects him. He's a god. He's Zeus. Now, Reno's review talked about how it doesn't match up to the older material of NL. Fine. But does any of the new NL material hold a candle up to the old? Perhaps, but they're different as Kool-Aid and water. Some older people can't stand the taste of kool-aid, yet love water. And there's kids that love both. That's how the old NL and the new NL match up. The older folk just love the old NL, and can't understand the new NL. Well, get your old VHS copies and enjoy them. But don't crap on the new, because it's just as great to us as the old was to you.
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NATIONAL LAMPOON is strictly straight-to-video these days, and means nothing to the kids that will go and see this movie. I think Ryan Reynolds is hilarious, and will probably go and see this movie just for him, trying to ignore that "soul-sucking black hole of talent" (copywrite, Harry Knowles) Tara Reid.
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I went into this film not expecting much, but I laughed consistantly through it. Reynolds does a great job, they couldn't have cast a better actor. It has a lot of gross-out humour, but what can I say I laughed.
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Hey, I like a good gross out comedy as much as the next guy. But the NatLamp name used to stand for something more. Much in the same way that Porsche immediately connotates a certain level of luxury in a ports car, National Lampoon meant a certain type of comedy. How many people would be pissed if they were told they were buying a Porsche and would up with something more along the lines of a Saturn? (Not that I have anything against a Saturn, mind you. I own a 2001 SL myself.) Or, to use your Kool Aid/water analogy, don't sell me water by telling me it's Kool Aid. And, in this case, especially tepid water at that.
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I don't know anybody who didn't find it funny, as perhaps a return to glory of the old genre (or at least a step in the right direction). I mean, my girlfriend even liked it! I'll definately rent Van Wilder when it comes out on DVD, cause I just can't justify paying 8 bucks to see it on the big screen.
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There is nothing feminine about that girl. With all of the hot pieces of ass in hollywood, why her? Why? Why? Why?
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Apr 02, 2002 4:36:38 PM CST
The trailer and ads are PURE SHIT. Thus I question these positiv
by the_lion
fuck this movie.
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As I said in the last talk-back about this flick...GENIUS, PURE UNABASHED GENIUS. Ok, that's a bit much...but its a fine, fine movie, well worth your $8. Sad thing is, the commercials for it suck serious ass.
And no, there is no Jason Biggs appearance.
Stay through the credits, too. They do that "Cannonball Run" out-takes bit that everybody loves so much.
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feelin'hot, hot, hot!
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Hehe, that's funny
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In the scene where Van and the Tara Reid characters are sitting talking on the ice rink bleachers there's a reaction shot of one of the hockey players looking over at them. If its not Biggs then it's a damn close lookalike.
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dude, i saw a sneak preview of Van wilder and that kid Taj is awesome! Tara Reid and that other guy should be taking notes from this guy. And they should pay attention. Wax it! Holy siht, I was dying. If I ever see that dude I'm gonna give him a hi 5 and we're gonna party and kick everyones behinds like Michael Knight and K.I.T. and tell everyone to eat a Delta Iota Kappa sandwich. It's from the moov. Ya'll wouldn't know til you see it. Well go and see Taj. And when you see him tell him I said sup. My little bro is on the Taj bandwagon. So saddle up fellers before this here wagone sets asail without you. I wouldn't want to be a part of that sad tea party. no sir. Cause the chicks love Taj. Dude they were flocking to my man. They was all showin him they stuff and was like, Taj do me, and stuff. Taj has a posse!
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I agree with some parts of your review, I just don't believe that everyone should believe this to be no more than your typical hackeneyed shite, because it's worthy of more praise than these reviews give it. I do believe though that the face of comedy is ever-changing, and things that were once daring and shocking and nuevo aren't any longer. So maybe it's not Shakespeare's great comedies (geez...I hate that phrase..) but it is funny. And to some degree, clever. And certainly worth the NL tag that according to this talkback, was later added to the film.
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Apr 02, 2002 7:17:13 PM CST
"FAT, DRUNK, AND STUPID IS NO WAY TO GO THROUGH LIFE, SON."
by lt. torello
It looks like pure shit. I'll trust Reno on this one, as he defintely knows his golden age NatLamp. What he DOESN'T KNOW is how to spell -- It's Volkswagen BEETLE; and "Animal House" went for the JUGULAR. That brilliantly funny and sadistic aesthete Michael O'Donohue would slap you with his Webster's Unabridged if he wasn't food for flowers.
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Well, let's just agree to disagree. Perhaps we do have different senses of humor. Believe me, I wanted to like the film, I just felt they fumbeled more than they succeeded. For things that make me laugh include Doug Stanhope, Lewis Black, John Stewart, Bill Hicks, Woody Allen's standup and old episodes of Jack Benny's radio show. Oh, and I'm laughing at the Dorf sketch they just did on "The Sweet Spot" where they run over his legs with a lawnmower.
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I remember the original short story in National Lampoon that was the source for the Movie 'Vacation'. It was called Vacation '58, and it was penned by John Hughes. It was the absolute funniest thing I have ever read, before or since.
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The name "Nick Poppagiorgio" is funnier than I'm betting the entirety of Van Wilder is. And Christmas Vacation wasn't bad at all, either.
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Apr 03, 2002 1:16:40 AM CST
Any person who likes this movie is a retard smacking himself in
by heywood jablomie
Plants? No friggin' way. That was the no-talent Walt Whatever director of VAN WILDER and Tim Matheson himself penning those paeans to glory. Anyone who would even half consider this shite needs about 36 rounds of electroconvulsive therapy. Bring back NatLamp movies directed by the slick guys...like...Henry Jaglom!
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I haven't seen Van Wilder but the lead is very funny. He was the only good thing on "Two Guys and A Girl" and he has the funniest moments in The Alarmist with David Arquette. The movie looks like shit but it could be good with that guy in the lead.
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all the "funny" parts are shown in the previews. This flick could get a stack of sterling reviews and I still wouldn't see it.
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did not carry the National Lampoon brand, sorry. But that does not change the fact that it was a pretty damn funny flick. I also agree with a previous post that NL's Christmas Vacation was also a high point for Lampoon... really, only European Vacation was pretty much a shitfest. Hey, how about Hawaiian Vacation? I'll be there!!
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Someone nailed it earlier when he said Ryan Reynolds was doing a bad Jason Lee/Brodie impression.
I'll king that.
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Taj (Kal) was in another comedy titled, "American Desi". The movie is about an Indian-American guy who is off to college trying shed his Indian culture...but finds out that all 3 of his roomates are Indian. Kal plays on of the roomates and is quite hilarious. The movie reminds me of something out of the '80s.
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First of all, National Lampoon as an entertainment entity barely exists. They release one issue of the mgazine a year, and that's solely to protect its copyright. All they do is repackage old stuff (like the VHS tape of Lemmings), OR sell their name to apparently any and all bidders. Showtime Networks bought the rights to the name National Lampoon for a while, which is why you can find so many movies with National Lampoon logo you've never seen or heard of before, though you still can't blame them for Golf Punks. Incidentally, that's why Vegas Vacation is NOT National Lampoon's Vegas Vacation. The Vacation movies are made by Warner Brothers, and the rights to the name Naitonal Lampoon was exclusivly Showtime's (a division of Viacom, which also owns PARAMOUNT Pictures) at the time. In any event, YES, this is not a National Lampoon movie in the truest sense; nobody involved in National Lampoon had anything to do with this movie, other than cashing the big fat check from Artisan Pictures. And if you see anything come out with the National Lampoon imprimatur from now on, take it with a big fat grain of salt. It doesn't mean it'll be funny OR not funny. It just means that someone thought the name had cache and was willing to pony up some ducats for it. Now go play in the yard, I have a headache.
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