March 15, 2002, 12:49 p.m. CST
I've been reading a lot about this, and can't wait to see it. Just for the record...LOTR "rulez more ass." JK, take care.
March 15, 2002, 1:07 p.m. CST
First of all, I'm missing this at SXSW this week. There's SO much going on, I couldn't fit it into my schedule. . . . A quasi-related note about subtitles: I really wish I spoke more languages. What am I missing with a subtitled Das Boot? Or Seven Samurai? Or any subtitled film? (And I'm not such a nerd that I'd only like to learn more languages so I can watch Dragonball Z in its original tongue. Travel when fluent is much much much better than travel with a phrasebook. . . .) I have often heard the saying, "When you learn another language, you gain another soul." I wonder how accurate the sprite of that phrase is?
March 15, 2002, 1:10 p.m. CST
The FIRST posters are always the first to go... heh heh. Third? Oh yeah, Y TU MAMA TAMBIEN, bitch!
March 15, 2002, 1:17 p.m. CST
by Fatal Discharge
...from the description of this one it has the same naughty sexy spirit, and I don't see why this can't do as well. It's funny though that it was the biggest hit of last year in Mexico and has a chance to break out in America yet it wasn't submitted for the Academy Awards which could have gotten it more publicity. I guess when you start a film with a couple fucking it isn't "respectable" enough.
March 15, 2002, 1:24 p.m. CST
At the Cineplex Odeon theater at Melrose? Well, I've got this date planned with my new gal, and I think it might involve this movie. From what everyone's saying, this one is hot, hot, hot. No personas nunca son mas caliente en las picturas que los latinos, no? Por ejemplo, Il Postino (que romantica!) o Belle Epoque (cuatro hermanas para solo UN HOMBRE!). Very hot indeed! Decent review, but one bit of advice, Morifarty: be careful, you're starting to sound like Harry, relating the film you're reviewing in too many ways to other films. You're a better writer than that, buddy.
March 15, 2002, 2:21 p.m. CST
This review's on the left column, which I've always taken to mean that it's somewhat important, and everybody who visits AICN needs to read it. And look, only 4-5 posts. It really lays bare the reality of who's reading AICN. This is a completely great review of a movie EVERYONE should see, and yet no one cares to weigh in. Why? Because it's foreign? Because there's no kung-fu or laser beams?
March 15, 2002, 2:22 p.m. CST
I want to see it NOW!
March 15, 2002, 2:37 p.m. CST
You're a lady, right? Do real and passionate love scenes lend themselves to a good rockin time in bed for you? I've always thought so, after watching Belle Epoque, then gettin' after my lady? Ooo, mommy got a good whoopin' that night, baby.
March 15, 2002, 3:21 p.m. CST
Just go rent it on video. It's been out for awhile in Mexico, so it already came out on video. Just go to any video store in a predominantly Mexican-American neighborhood and it should be there with subtitles, That's how I saw it. Anyways. It's a good movie, but it's not that great. I've seen this plot done way better on Red Shoe Diaries. But because that's considered soft core porn nobody ever says it's good. The plot is the average bored housewife young stallions road trip screw fest. As seen in Red Shoe diaries and (insert SHOWTIME soft core porn here). It's a good film, but let's not get carried away by calling it great. You guys give out "great" reviews like if they were Halloween candy. In closing this director is no Zalman King. VIVA ZALMAN KING!!!!!!!!!
March 15, 2002, 3:22 p.m. CST
This is AICN, after all...///I am unsure of seeing this movie. I am intrigued by the apparent depth of characters and the nuanced changes it sounds like they go through. A well thought out character piece is not very common in American cinema these days, unless you count Freddy Got Fingered. I can't believe I'm going to say this, but the fact that there is so much sex in this movie might be distracting. Now I like sex and nudity as much as the next guy, but if it is a serious movie, I don't really want to see tons of that. Maybe its a context issue. Maybe I'm so used to American movies that trivialize sex or use it to support an otherwise crappy movie that I can't understand how it can be used as a character development piece....
March 15, 2002, 3:31 p.m. CST
Once word gets out, should be popular with the local teenyboppers...
March 15, 2002, 9:12 p.m. CST
Poopie pants? Ha! I thought I was the only one who said that! Rock on, my friend! And I've posted on every TB about this movie. I haven't looked forward to a movie like this since LOTR. I just hope they don't, as someone else put it, TRIVIALIZE the sex. Sex isn't just wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am. It comes with a lot of complex emotions and feelings. That's something almost no film has ever touched on. It's always done in a JAMES BOND fashion. Which certainly isn't real life, unless you're a Hollywood hooker. I hope this film is the first to be a true treatise, if you will, on sex and the sexual nature of all us human beings.
March 16, 2002, 8:12 a.m. CST
Reading that review sent a tingle through my spine. Not because of the explicitness of the film but simply because this is a film that seems to have some kind of emotional punch that is lacking in the majority of films nowadays. I just hope that the sex doesn't become the focal point because when it comes to England we'll get all the tank top wearing, perrier and lime drinking, stay at home with mummy, critics up in arms about it. So thanks Moriarty and the other reviewers for bringing this to my attention.
March 16, 2002, 9:17 a.m. CST
except getting my bloody hopes up for seeing this movie which i'll have to wait a month more for it to break out into wider release. great review, its always great to see personal emotions that reviewers get - lends a little more credence to the actual review. i actually managed to see the first 10 minutes of this so i got to see the first 2 sexual romps and the really spine tingling shot of the dead construction worker. why do i do this to myself? anyway, really can't wait to see this - especially for some actually tender sex scenes, different from the tripe we get from hollywood ;-) ...peace
March 16, 2002, 2:53 p.m. CST
Is it normal for Mexican kids to have jack-off contests? What the fuck is wrong with these kids anyway? I've read some great reviews of this movie, but none of them have given me any reason why I'd want to go see it. People said the same thing about 'All About My Mother', and I wasn't impressed by it. Why is it that all the critically-acclaimed Spanish-speaking films are about deviant sexual practices?
March 16, 2002, 4:10 p.m. CST
I like the Beavis and Butthead interaction between the two guys. Great stuff.
March 16, 2002, 6:45 p.m. CST
Sounds watchable for the sex scenes. For those TalkBackers who are not U.S. citizens: Foreign films don't play particularly well with the American moviegoer, for fairly obvious reasons. Not the least of which is either bad dubbing or distracting, hard-to-read subtitles. There's also a sensibility at work that is...foreign to Americans. Not trying to be funny, just honest. The French seem to do the best job, amazingly enough.
March 16, 2002, 8:43 p.m. CST
but it's slender Elvish and tiny Hobbit ones for the most part, so that doesn't really weigh that much...AD out
March 16, 2002, 9:48 p.m. CST
and I would hope that I am speaking frankly for many geeks on here. (but when I DID have a girlfriend, we went to see Eyes Wide Shut together hoping it would add a little freak on to it. instead we just walked creeped out. don't really know what the point of that story was, but hey...)
March 16, 2002, 11:41 p.m. CST
Cuaron with a hit on his hands. Had the misfortune of opening Little Princess at the same time as Babe. Equally good films. Shoulda gotten a talking pig in there somehow.
March 18, 2002, 6 p.m. CST
Your girlfriend is 100% correct; there are some things in this film that are untranslatable (and really, whoever did the translation went for the most vulgar shorthand possible) and the whole thing is much deeper and indelible if you know the language and something of Mexican culture and outlook, as well as the differences between Mexican and Spanish culture, which is another part of the subtext of this remarkable film. Maribel's vernacular is markedly different from that of Tenoch and Julio, in keeping with that of a young middle-middle class Spanish woman who married up when she came to Mexico. Nonetheless, her remark that she fell in love with her husband's "cute little Mexican accent" is actually a bit of a dig. This only scratches the surface of the riches lost in the English translation -- one of the funniest things is the boys' compulsive use of the words "hue" (ox), "chingon" (alternately, fucker or fuckhead), "cabron" (bastard), "pendejo" (alternately moron or asshole) and "mamon" (which means literally "tit-sucker" but here probably means cocksucker). In their own way, they're as verbally unimaginative as any American mallrats. At any rate, great review -- hope it makes people take notice of Cuaron's best film to date.
March 18, 2002, 11:57 p.m. CST
Very good film. I was initially sceptical the filmmakers were prepared to move beyond the sort of teenage antics common to american imbecile cinema, and was prepared for just another machisom reverie, but with a few twists and turns in the plot, I was handsomely rewarded in the end.
This review reminded me why I come to this site, and almost, almost washed the horrid taste of Harry's review of Blade 2 from my mouth or even wore the taste of the infantile talkbackers that seem to think calling Harry names is a good way to spend some time. The thing that Moriarty accomplishes in his reviews is that he manages to write non-mainstream (meaning non-boring) critiques, while still maintaing a prose that is witty but not juvenile. I had seen the excellent trailer to this film and heard some good buzz about it before I read this review, but now I want to see it even more. That's what this site is at its best. To see what it is at its worst one has to look no further than the talkback section and read posts from people who think making hateful and stupid personal attacks on the guy who runs this site (who they all undoubtably secretly worship)is funny or worse yet intersting. This review was intersting, thank God.
March 21, 2002, 6:31 p.m. CST
If your girlfriend is from Argentina, she must be a beauty and intelligent too, so, she should consider taking you to see great argentinean films such as: WILD HORSES, A PLACE IN THE WORLD, MARTIN H, NINE QUEENS, SON OF THE BRIDE ( 2001 ACADEMY AWARD NOMINEE ). HAVE YOU SEEN ANY OF THEM?? THOUGH I LOVED 'Y TU MAMA TAMBIEN...',