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Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.

I like Muad Dib. He's a good egg. And he's also one of the first people I know to see the finished print of David Fincher's PANIC ROOM. I know the trailers for this one look great, but boy, howdy, I hated that script. I'd love to hear something good about this, so let's see what Muad has to say...

MuadDib here again.

This time I've just taken in PANIC ROOM, and I've got some words on it.

If you've seen the trailer to the film, you know the skeleton of the story. A woman and her daughter lock themselves in a safe room, and three uglies try their nastiest to break into it to claim a bunch of money for themselves.

David Fincher directed this bitch, and he doesn't cover much new ground here. In fact, he covers the same stretch of road he took in FIGHT CLUB with the CGI drop-zoom cam... about twelvety billion times. Now, let me just say that I understand the allure of zooming in and along pipes... air vents... coffee cups... key holes... it's fun. But for the love of Jebus Christ, it grows TIRESOME, David, tiresome. Don't get me wrong, if CGI zooming is your thing, then this is your huckleberry... but the guy is taking it to a sick level.

David Koepp is the writer here, and he takes the basic element of LADY IN A CAGE, DESPERATE HOURS and WAIT UNTIL DARK and smooshes them together. And all in all, he doesn't come up with a bad fondue.

The movie is acted by an able troupe... Jodie Foster, Forest Whitaker, Jared Leto, and Dwight Yoakam. Foster's claustrophobic mom is just that... a claustrophobic mom. Her character really isn't given much of an arc here... she just shows up, works really hard to keep her and her kid alive, then goes away. Whitaker continues to perfect the big bear likable-villain guy, and I don't really mind watching him do it. Leto plays a useless crack addict, and he scores some nice comedic moments. Probably the most successful performance is Yoakam, who gets to work out his menace more freely than he did in SWING BLADE.

The similarities with WAIT UNTIL DARK here are quite direct. Foster is your Hepburn, Whitaker is your Crenna, and Yoakam is your Arkin.

Now, I will say that this movie is worthwhile. It's keenly shot, nicely acted, and it delivers all your thrills and chills and whatnot. But there is something here that is sorely missing from Fincher's other work. There isn't any real adventure in Fincher's direction... no real invention. Fincher has made a name for himself by playing risky and choosing tough, inventive material and translating it beautifully into vision and sound. Here Fincher seems to be playing it safe... nothing gained, nothing lost. If I were to liken this to another Fincher project, it would have to be THE GAME, but not even with the sadistic glee and somewhat nifty ending.

So, in summation: Good acting, good writing, LOTS of CGI zooming, and no progress for Fincher.

That's all I've got, for now.

I'm going to be paying close attention to reactions I hear from people in the next week or so on this one, and I'm going to poke about to see if there's a screening I can squeeze into. I'm curious as hell to see how it plays, especially after such a mixed review. Thanks again, Muad, for taking the time.

"Moriarty" out.

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  • March 14, 2002, 7:38 a.m. CST


    by rizla

    This film got me excited about 6 months ago, but it's been sounding lamer and lamer ever since. Is Rendezvous with Rama still on as Fincher's next project? Will we get to see some REAL goddam sci-fi next year? Let's hope so.

  • March 14, 2002, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Damn, I'm first!

    by Windowlicker2

  • March 14, 2002, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Unfortunate Tiresome Trademark Film Making

    by DrAlyssaJonze

    Another well-written and easy to peruse review, Lubinksy; much appreciated. It is unfortunate that Fincher has decided to adopt a sort of trademark shot process, a trait that Aronofsky forged between Pi and Reqiuem For A Dream but got away with because, hey, they were his first two major movies. Fincher really has no excuse, as Se7en, Game, Fight Club and A3 each took their own road. It would be a crime to see Fincher go the way of Zemeckis: a touch of genius here and there, a few crazy CGI camera shots thrown in to lift the tone and a great cast, but lacking something that makes his great movies (Back To The Future, etc) appear to simply stomp all over stuff like What Lies Beneath and Castaway. Fincher can get away with this with his rep intact, as can Zemeckis, but one wonders whether they'd be better off going down to their local video shop and renting something like Nowhere To Hide or Time & Tide, and taking some notes for the next time we want to watch something better than above average. - - A-J.

  • March 14, 2002, 8:13 a.m. CST

    I'm dying to see it...

    by Citizen_Dildo

    ...even though I'm sure it's not as good as Fight Club or Seven... at least, Jodie's so hot on the trailer!

  • March 14, 2002, 8:15 a.m. CST

    I'm dying to see it...

    by Citizen_Dildo

    ...even though I'm sure it's not as good as Fight Club or Seven... at least, Jodie's so hot on the trailer!

  • March 14, 2002, 8:20 a.m. CST


    by Mr Neth

    Fuck Fincher's progress, if he's working at the same level he was on Fight Club here then that's just fine. Still can't wait to see this.

  • March 14, 2002, 8:25 a.m. CST

    Rendezvous with Rama won

    by DonnieDorko

    Rendezvous with Rama - the book is just a anti-climactic suspense builder completely worthless without the rest of the series. But all the books in the series would be too much to squeeze into one movie. So I don

  • March 14, 2002, 8:45 a.m. CST

    I like french fries.

    by Westrum

    I'm not sure I can trust anyone who says the script was well-written. David Koepp is a moron. He's not really worth anything as far as a writer...he does safe pop-friendly hash like Jurassic Park.

  • March 14, 2002, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Hold on a second....

    by rev_skarekroe

    That's supposed to be Jodie Foster's DAUGHTER? I thought it was a feminine, Hanson-like SON! sk

  • March 14, 2002, 9:10 a.m. CST

    comments on panic room

    by Silvio Dante

    Too busy (red lazy) to send in an actual review, so here goes...It's a very basic thriller, this one. And Finch at his "mainstreamest". "Panic Room" is a lot like "Cube", it has it's moments and enough tension to entertain when you're in the theatre, but I repeated viewings might be boring. I liked the CGI zooms, not distracting at all and actually, aside from geeks I doubt that Joe public even notices...although thse shots are used in abundance. Dwight Yoakam's character, Raoul is both scary and hilarious and the only one who is written as something else than stereotype. And remember to check out the Andrew Kevin Walker cameo, he's the gut who's sleep is disturbed by the flashlight. I guess this Fincher playing it safe so he can dazzle us again in the future with something a bit more riskier in the future.Oh, I loved the titles. Very Hitchcokian.

  • March 14, 2002, 9:14 a.m. CST

    apologies for my spelling

    by Silvio Dante

    Should've proof-read.

  • March 14, 2002, 9:28 a.m. CST

    There's no way this idiot could have seen this movie....

    by RedCapitalist

    Jodie foster and her DAUGHTER??? the movie is about a woman and her SON!!!! There is nothing this guy tells us that we couldn't have known by just looking at the trailer....

  • March 14, 2002, 9:59 a.m. CST


    by earthlingdave

    Daughter? Huh, wha?!...anyway, it looks good but I agree that Fincher's more concerned with style than substance. Although, A3 wasn't sooo bad. It did have some nice touches and Ripley's pretty great in it....oh, but poor Newt...okay, this has compeletly broken down into me rambling. Sorry. Oh, and A4 sucks the most. Terrible!!!

  • March 14, 2002, 10:25 a.m. CST

    It is her daughter!

    by kiki370

    I don't know where you guys have been getting your info but that is her daughter and not a son! From Yahoo Movies....Trapped in their New York brownstone's panic room, a hidden chamber built as a sanctuary in the event of break-ins, newly divorced Meg Altman (Jodie Foster) and her young daughter Sarah (Kristen Stewart) play a deadly game of cat-and-mouse with three intruders - Burnham (Forest Whitaker), Raoul (Dwight Yoakam) and Junior (Jared Leto) - during a brutal home invasion. I am really looking forward to Panic Room because I love Fincher's style (as evidenced in Fight Club and Seven) and can't get enough of it. The story also intrigues me...the thought of having a panic room in the house is pretty cool and I am looking forward to seeing how this film plays out. It's going to be good...I just feel it!

  • March 14, 2002, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Better Fincher, than Lucas

    by ten440004

    I'd have to say I prefer the nice CGI strokes that Fincher uses to the disgusting, more-glossy, lamenated CGI version that Lucas has used in the past, ala Phantom. But, from the latest AOTC trailer, I'd say Lucas has cut that shit out and made great use of dust and gritty environments, ala the fuckin' awesome final shots of the AOTC trailer.

  • March 14, 2002, 10:41 a.m. CST

    That's a GIRL????

    by cannedpasta

    wow, from the trailer, I never would have guessed it

  • March 14, 2002, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Better Fincher than Jackson

    by MrLimey

    If only Fincher had been handed the reigns of the Willow...sorry..LOTR franchise then he might have injected an ounce of life into that fucking borefest!

  • March 14, 2002, 11:30 a.m. CST

    What happened to that thread?

    by ItsOver

    The Never Mind Nirvana one? I was just making my rebuttals and *poof*. Anyway if anyone from that threads wants me to explain myself, you know where to find me. ***** Panic Room: Fincher is overrated but it looks like Jodi made a much better choice of Hannibal.

  • March 14, 2002, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Fincher's directing

    by empyreal0

    Let me start off by saying I love Fincher's work, and I truly think he and the Wachowskis are the only directors who have really taken CGI in a unique direction in the past few years. Fincher has a gift for taking a simple premise (such as with se7en, and this movie) and making it seem greater than it was. The guy is a very good director, one of my favorites, but I'm still waiting for him to expand a little, and maybe do a drama sans CG zoom and lack-o-lighting. The reason he succeeded on Fight Club, his most complex work to date, was that David and Jim already had the perfect script written out for them before they even started the project. If you've ever read any of Palahiuk's novels you know what I mean. Frankly, Palahniuk is NOT that hard to adapt because he writes from scene to scene complete with cuts, camera, and great lines. I love Fight Club and it's definitely to Fincher's credit that he made such a gorgeous-looking movie, but I think he really owed a lot to the source. I am greatly looking forward to Panic Room. I'm a little skeptical about Rama though...

  • March 14, 2002, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Anyone ever see FILM Club?

    by empyreal0

    Directed by Chris Lamont and Golan Ramras? Excellent parody. Too bad their next work Mating Rituals looked and played out very much like a TV movie, because it really was a nice little script.

  • March 14, 2002, 12:03 p.m. CST

    it all hangs on the script

    by STRIDER355

    Fincher's dark style is wonderful, but I don't think it can carry a movie, just like Denzel Washington's amazing perfomance couldn't carry the shitfest that was JOHN Q. If Fincher is handed a great script, he can create masterpieces like FIGHT CLUB and SEVEN. But with a bad script comes a bad movie: A3. So let's hope this movie lives up to its kick ass premise. But then again, JOHN Q. had a kick ass premise. . .

  • March 14, 2002, 12:08 p.m. CST

    and to Mr. Limey. . .

    by STRIDER355

    I was going to say something nasty for your suggestion that Fincher would've done a better job than Jackson on LOTR. But then I started thinking. . . well, it wouldn't have ended up as Tolkien's LOTR, but I've gotta say that Fincher's LOTR woulda been very damn cool.

  • March 14, 2002, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Gurn's idea is good, but "Swing Blade" already exists and is

    by eraser_x

    Plot Outline: Lovable mental patient Karl Childers from "Sling Blade" tries to get a date on the martini-soaked "Swingers" LA club scene. A short parody. See

  • March 14, 2002, 1:32 p.m. CST

    If I may be so bold

    by Karla

    I think that when the reviewer says "there is something here that is sorely missing from Fincher's other work" he means "there is something sorely missing here that is present in Fincher's other work"; namely, risk-taking, etc. Editing, people!

  • March 14, 2002, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Rendezvous with Rama & Panic Room

    by FargoUT

    Now that he's done with Panic Room (which I can't wait to see), I definitely hope he'll turn to Rendezvous with Rama. For whomever said the novel is anti-climactic, you are obviously out of your mind. It has one of the best endings I've ever read to a book. Very real and honest, with a great message that Hollywood has never even thought about when dealing with aliens (I mean, really, are we so egotistical to think aliens would actually give a damn about us?). My only fear is that the story maintains the suspense and tension that was created in the book. I think Fincher is one of the only directors in Hollywood who could handle it. As for Panic Room, his visual style is perfect for thrillers because that genre relies heavily on atmosphere and less on story. Of course, the best mix the two. I don't mind fancy camera work, since the film medium is primarily visual. The main thing I like most about Fincher is he never uses visual effects to supplant his story. He uses his visuals to tell the story. So many directors don't know how to do that. That may be the reason Fincher has gained such a following. Even when he doesn't make a great film, his films are always fun to watch.

  • March 14, 2002, 2:38 p.m. CST

    It still looks cool....

    by CoolDan989

  • March 14, 2002, 2:48 p.m. CST

    I Got Drunk And Locked Myself In My Panic Room By Accident.

    by Buzz Maverik

    I'm almost out of smokes, so could somebody come and let me out? The front door's unlocked and all you need to do is get the big key on the coffee table marked "Panic Room".

  • March 14, 2002, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Tom Cruise wants Fincher for M:I-3

    by Silver_Joo

  • March 14, 2002, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Too Bad Nicole Cracked a Rib

    by ActiveM

    She would have been much better as Meg. I don't think that chick can do anything wrong at this point. She even got good reviews for Birthday Girl. Too bad for Tom, she is the superstar now

  • March 14, 2002, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Jodie Foster is an extremely attractive woman

    by Billy Talent

    I would also guess that she's a real pleasure to be around. Let us all sing the praises of smart, elegant, charming women.

  • March 14, 2002, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Fincher is under a LOT of pressure to have a hit film

    by Fatal Discharge

    ...considering that since Seven, his films have made less and less at the box-office. And for the fact that The Game and Fight Club cost a ton of money to make, I'm pretty sure the studios lost money on them or wound up breaking even at most. With Panic Room he's trying for a more straightforward mainstream film and with a female lead that will pull in female moviegoers more who weren't as likely to see his previous dark and violent films. I hope it's a hit so Hollywood will continue to give him the money needed for his twisted visions.

  • March 14, 2002, 3:38 p.m. CST

    If it wasn't from the director of "Fight Club", I wouldn&#39

    by St Buggering

    It looks like a Lifetime "woman in danger" movie of the week. I just expected something of a bit more substance from his next project. Then again, his last stab at substance tanked at the box office. Maybe he wanted some career insurance. I don't blame him, but ew.

  • March 14, 2002, 4 p.m. CST

    You're being fooled, this movie is really about...

    by No. 41

    a room where Jodie's character goes to listen to her Widespread Panic bootlegs. She's got some lava lamps, incense, and throw rugs in there, there seems to be this haze in the air, and she really loves the '99 versions of "Chilly Water." Damn, I've been waiting a long time to use that. Too bad no one around here as probably ever heard of Widespread Panic.

  • March 14, 2002, 5:53 p.m. CST

    well, i think.....

    by deftone

    that it sounds really good---i'm withholding judgement until i see it, especially with the positive review earlier this week. am i the only one pretty excited to see jared leto in a high profile film? requiem was great, but he didn't get enough credit for it.

  • March 14, 2002, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Frist Swing Blade

    by Truman_Burbank

    That Biwwy Bwob Thwornton reawy did a gweat job wif dat Swing Blade, I reckon. Mmmmmmm hmmmmmm. Pwus, he gets to wick Angewina Jowie's cwitoris. Mmmmmmm hmmmmmm.

  • March 14, 2002, 6:42 p.m. CST

    boring review

    by Damer1

    bored... bored... bored...

  • March 14, 2002, 8:25 p.m. CST

    'American Psycho' Explained!

    by Billy Talent

    Mary Harron: "the years ecoulees allowed an approach depassionned and a new glance on the history. With ten years of retreat, "American Psycho" seems a brilliant social satire, a portrait devastator of the Eighties. Bret Easton Ellis seized the insanite of this time perfectly, like any other artist did not know to do it ". Mary Harron wanted to put in scene a sour vision, a social requisitoire which uses a particularly attractive criminal as barometer of its time. "Patrick Bateman" incarne by Christian Basle has ancestors as various as derangeants: the compulsif killer pathetic, causing the repulsion, plays by Peter Lorre in "M, maudit it" of Fritz Lang, seduisant it Joseph Cotton in "the Shade of a doubt" of Alfred Hitchcock or the merry one and amoral Malcolm McDowell in "mecanic Orange" of Stanley Kubrick. American Psycho is considere by its createurs as a "historical" film depeignant a very close master key, with a resonance resolument contemporary. "When I have start has to imagine film in 1996, remembers Mary Harron, I initially saw it like a historical film, because, with the passing, the period of the Eighties seemed to me very eloignee in time. But today, the Stock Exchange and financial world seems even more savage and pitiless than ever and people are has new obsedes by consumption. We are simply a little less denues of scruples that ten years ago. All, in the Eighties, was in addition to, the wages, the ambitions, the promises for the year 2000". If the book must, mainly, its notoriety has the violence which appears there, the approach of film is differente. Guinevere Turner explains: "to underline the satirical gasoline of the matter, Mary and me let us have concentrates the original history, have of it selectionne the crucial moments, by stressing the humour of the behavior of the characters and by choosing the elements brilliant dialogues and very droles of Ellis. Moreover, the major part of violence deroule out of the framework. It is initially suggeree ". It adds: "We were conscious upon the departure if we do not find the approach right, the film could aisement be transformed into a film of horror, sanguinolent and nauseating. It was well the derniere thing which we wish. In film, violence is has intention stylisee and biaisee, because as Patrick Bateman plunges more deeply in the satisfaction of his dark impulses, that its frenzy becomes more and more incontrolable, it starts has to lose any contact with reality. The realizatrice explains: "the last third of film becomes more surrealist, so much so that one is not certain any more to know if one looks at the reality or the hallucinations of Bateman". A scene underlines this idee particularly: when Bateman returns has the apartment of Paul Allen, that it A transforms into mortuary, it finds there only walls repainted of expenses and an icy employee of an agency immobile. Is this a joke on the necessite of preserver the values immobilie of New York has any price? Would the family of Allen have it discover the victims and would try to cover it? Would the real estate agent be the incarnation of the fear and the paranoia increasing of Patrick Bateman? And finally, did Bateman reelle conceal Allen or it has only hopelessly wishes? Mary Harron observes: "Sometimes one rocks abruptly of a humorous scene has a very disconcerting scene. I wanted that all violence is derange. The murders are made with the intention to be revulsants, they are made to cause a true terror. I wanted that the victims of Patrick Bateman are not anonymous. Although the character of Patrick Bateman is a archetype, a kind of icone, Mary Harron underlines "the necessite to play it naturally, by using the euphemisms to reinforce the satire". Christian Basle has ete my first choice, entrusts the realizatrice. He is enough seducer for incarner the physical ideal of the time, with an emotional depth, a great talent of comedian and sufficient experiment to carry film ". Christian Basle is prepare during several months for this role, in particular on the physical level, while following a special mode and testing exercises. It continues: "If Patrick Bateman is the center of the history, the other actors had them also a extreme importance: Willem Dafoe is impressive detective, Jared Leto camps a fabulous enemy, Bill Sage, Josh Lucas, Matt Ross are also remarkable in incarnat the entourage of Bateman. Of course, the feminins roles are of primary importance. "I wanted actresses able to show sufficient depth and of power to impose face face has Christian, to even dominate the scene. "Evelyn, the fiancee of Patrick Bateman, interpret by Reese Witherspoon, is a kind of monster splendid and one cannot admire his capacity has to give him orders. Samantha Mathis gives has "Courtney", the maitress of Bateman, a poignant and tragic vulnerability. Chloe Sevigny brings innocence and humanite has "Jean", the character to which the public can undoubtedly be identified best, since it is it which shows "normal" emotions in a cold and surface world. "For Christie, the prostitue, we chose Cara Seymour, a comedienne familiar of the scene, which fear of making pass a whole drama by the only expression of its face. Although it has relatively few replic, it brings a great suspense to film since it guesses the kind of anybody exactly that is Bateman. "We wanted recrete the Eighties, without us to show too literalnor too caricatural, comments on Gideon Ponte, the decorator head. We started from a simple principle: there is nothing stranger than the true life. We thus began research pusees. The problem is that, in the field of the decoration, this film places some share between film of time and contemporary film... Nobody collects yet memories of the Eighties... The limit is sometimes fuzzy between this close relation yesterday and today. It was necessary to fix the limits of the influence of the we-same Eighties, preciser what goes back to this time and in is representatif.:Gideon Ponte A gathers equipment and video tape recorders VHS, of Betacam and several of the first modeles of walkman. It A collaborates with artists reveles has the end of the Eighties, like Cindy Sherman, Ross Bleckner, Jeff Koons... The costumes of "American Psycho "reflectent the fashion of the year 1987, that the head costumiere Isis Mussenden describes as follows: "Of the forms vaster than today, the shoulder pads very marquees to widen the breadth, of large glasses..." The costumiere head was made pretier true clothing of designers celebreties: Vivienne Westwood, Versace, Jean-Paul Gaultier, Issey Miyake, Kenzo... Isis Mussenden A works in close cooperation with the Cerruti house which was already has the time synonymous with prosperity and elegance.

  • March 14, 2002, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Fincher's last stand?

    by Renata

    Hardly. Fincher wields a lot of power in Hollywood. He's an example of how, if you scream loud enough at all the right people, you can fail upwards. Don't get me wrong. I thought Se7en was an extraordinary thriller. It's one of the few movies in recent memory that I can honestly say scared me, and Fincher had a lot to do with that. The chase scene through the motel, the phone ringing scene, and the finale still give me chills. I acknowledge the acting and the script added to the success of that movie, also. Which might be why Fincher's career has been on a downward spiral since then. He simply hasn't had as strong a script or cast. Fincher's strength lies in his ability to craft a dreary, claustrophobic atmosphere. He literally soaks his audience in it. But atmosphere can only carry you so far. Look at Ridley Scott, an obvious influence on Fincher: When he has a strong story, script, and characters, he can do wonders. Obviously, these are components to any successful movie, but some directors have such passionate visions, that it carries them past lesser elements. Filmmakers that come to mind are James Cameron, Godard, David Cronenberg. Their ideas are fascinating, and it came make up for other ills. Fincher's ideas aren't fascinating. They're rather ordinary and juvenile. The Game seemed promising, with its Kafka-esque gamesmanship, but Fincher (or his writers) didn't follow through on the premise, settling instead for a rather limp happy ending. Fight Club was the nadir of his career, as far as I'm concerned. I thought its ideas were juvenile and pretentious; I mean, what can you say about a movie who's premise was that men are being emasculated by...Ikea? And in its second half, it simply flew off the tracks as badly as any film in history. So Fincher does have a lot riding on Panic Room. It was intended to be a small movie but it went wildly overbudget, not all the production's fault as Nicold Kidman was simply unable to finish. I thought the trailer looked intersting and I'll definitely see it. But shots of the camera travelling through pipes and through coffee pot handles worry me. It sounds like Fincher concentrating on the wrong things again.

  • March 14, 2002, 9:33 p.m. CST

    I'm sorry...

    by euphonium

    ...but what the hell is a panic room?? Who the hell has a panic room?? Jodie Foster obviously. I mean, what kind of crazy concept is this. People actually have secret rooms JUST IN CASE THEY GET BROKEN INTO!!! What the?! It's like having a gift wrapping room or a toe-nail clipping room or something. I just don't get it. Maybe I'm just dumb. Don't answer that.

  • March 14, 2002, 9:40 p.m. CST

    What's happening with the Fincher/Fred Durst project?

    by Billy Talent

    That could potentially be the stupidest movie ever made!

  • March 14, 2002, 11:36 p.m. CST

    Waaaa Waaaaa Waaaaaaaa!

    by god1138

    Listen to all you so-called filmbuff freaks! Every single one of you that bitched and moaned about Fincher... There is NO ONE SINGLE DIRECTOR on the face of this god-forsaken planet that can pull off the kind of flicks Fincher can. Seven - The Game - Fight Club... EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM emotionally engaging and powerful enough to make a statement! Every single one of them finely crafted and well produced. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM KICK ASS FILMS! And all you little fanboy pricks bitch and moan and cry and talk shit about him. Sure, you have the First Amendment Rights our founding fathers SHOULDN'T have given you (they would have taken special exception to snotty-nosed internet dweebs who have nothing better to do with their time than surf a "internet machine" and make crass and useless conversation about something they've not even laid eyes on had the founding fathers themselves anticipated such a thing!), but JESUS MARY AND JOSEPH why don't you geeks scale back on the criticism and find something better to do with your life - like sort through that stack of Hustler's in your daddy's closet! Enjoy your trip down to the theater to see Panic Room... and if you don't like it, GO TO FUCKING FILM SCHOOL AND MAKE YOUR OWN STINKING PILE OF DOGSHIT MOVIE! THEN, and ONLY then, can you be critical of other people's work. Word out beeee-yatch!

  • March 14, 2002, 11:49 p.m. CST


    by Renata

    Panic rooms became a fad among the Hollywood rich back in the early nineties with the L.A. riots. It really is what the movie apparently portrays it as being: a center room that can sustain life for a brief time. Not surprisingly, Panic Room The Movie was made by rich people about rich people and probably for rich people.

  • March 15, 2002, 12:17 a.m. CST


    by empyreal0

    I'm afraid that I too must disagree. Jodie Foster is, when taken as a whole person and not merely as her body (which is really nice too, actually) she is amazingly beautiful. Foster is charming, intelligent, spirited, and most of all, REAL. I'd rather have a woman like her at my side than any of the vast numbers of bimbos that seem to cross our screen (ahemcoughTerminatrixcoughcough)...

  • March 15, 2002, 12:37 a.m. CST

    Thanks Renata.

    by euphonium

    I'm not exactly an expert in the architectual habits of rich Americans. Still, seems kinda excessive.

  • March 15, 2002, 1 a.m. CST

    I actually thought Alien 3 was pretty cool...

    by Crazy Fresh DJ

    wasn't till I came to this site that I learnt that it was one of the worst film ever, which singlehandedly brought down the quality of the Alien trilogy, insulted fans the world over and was an embarrassing start for Fincher. Thanks to Aintitcool, I know which films to hate.

  • March 15, 2002, 1:11 a.m. CST

    Fincher's Next...


    Last I heard, Dave's next film was gonna be an book adaptation about some New Your Gourmet called "Seared"...

  • March 15, 2002, 2:32 a.m. CST

    watch Swing Blade here!

    by Ambrose Chappell

  • March 15, 2002, 4:46 a.m. CST

    I can not negotiate in an atmosphere of mistrust.

    by nanch

    WAIT UNTIL DARK is one of my all time favourite films, by all accounts Fincher hasn't brought anything new to the formula, which is a pitty, but I'll have to wait and see for myself. Cheers for another great review Muad

  • March 15, 2002, 4:53 a.m. CST


    by nanch

    I promise never to talk like a talkbacker ever again, unless used for comedic purposes. Have at you Kirst!

  • March 15, 2002, 5:40 a.m. CST

    'Wait untill Dark'

    by JMYoda

    Now that is a classic film. Arkin was so wonderfully slimy in that. And is it me or was Audrey Hepburn just about the most perfect woman to ever walk the Earth? I mean she was stunningly beautiful, gracious, kind and a great actress. Then there's how she dedicated the later part of her life to charity and helping alleviate suffering of children in third world countries. How perfect is it that her last film role was that of an Angel in 'Always'? (Thank you Mr. Speilberg for that.) I found it appalling when they did that TV movie about her with Jennifer Love Hewlett (or whatever her name is.) I couldn't even bring myself to watch it. Cast some third rate TV actress as Ms. Hepburn? Ugh. The only actress who would even have a chance of pulling her of would be Natalie Portman.

  • March 15, 2002, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Not too sure about Panick Rooms...

    by Darth Pixel

    But, didn't that Alicia Silverstone/Frendan Braser (yes, I spelled it that way) film cover some of these points? Or, am I mistaken?

  • March 15, 2002, 9:50 a.m. CST

    by kafka07

    Seven and Fight Club were pretty good but Fincher's style is getting a little old. I think the next director with nihilistic vision to look forward to will be Aronofsky.

  • March 16, 2002, 10:22 p.m. CST

    For CrazyFreshD

    by TomVee

    ALIEN 3 effectively ruined the franchise. It was a depressing, nihilistic vision of the future with an incredibly bad ending and a monster that was not particularly scary. It was a major comedown from ALIENS. Great cast, interesting sets, but a real bummer of a movie.