Peter Jackson at Cricket And In Book Stores!! He's Everywhere!! UPDATED!! Moriarty With DVD, TWO TOWERS, ROTK Info!!!
Hey folks, Harry here with the latest on the astounding Cricket match between New Zealand and England, where New Zealand apparently cricketed England's bloomers clean off. Well, seems Peter not only took over during every break in the game, but he's all over the place. A couple of days ago he was recording HELM'S DEEP noises, but today he was in a Los Angeles bookstore where Quint ambushed him with a movie poster and a camera to catch him in the act. Between post-production on LORD OF THE RINGS and the publicity of running an Oscar campaign... Things have got to be a bit hectic. Though my heart goes out to any poor soul that must lead orc chants & touch the hand of a salty seaman... Rough week....
Please join Peter Jackson (director), Fran Walsh, (screenwriter and
co-producer), Howard Shore (composer), and Christopher Lee (actor) for an
in-store discussion of "THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING"
on Friday, February 22, from 5:00 to 6:00 p.m. at Barnes & Noble, Union
Square (33 East 17th Street), New York City!
Now here's those LA pics of Quints...
Undeniable proof that I'm one of the luckiest people in the world. Don't hate me too long...
-The fucking salty rat bastard.
Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here. I was also at today's booksigning. In fact, I'm hidden quite craftily in that top photo. Peter dropped all sorts of news on those lucky enough to slip inside for the small Q&A (40 fans total) before Brentano's actually let in the bloodthirsty mob outside. For example:
THE TWO TOWERS trailer will be attached to FELLOWSHIP in mid-March, during the final weeks that the film is in theaters. It will be placed just after the last shot of Frodo and Sam and just before the credits. It's over three and a half minutes long.
FX teams are currently shooting miniatures, including Cirith Ungol, which Peter seemed quite pleased hadn't leaked online yet. "It's amazing," he promised.
Peter just finished cutting the new version of FELLOWSHIP that will be on DVD, which should be 30 minutes longer. There are new scenes with Aragorn and Boromir described by Peter as "high drama," and we will also see Galadriel give gifts to each member of the Fellowship. Expect more material about the relationship between elves and dwarves, too, as well as scenes we "don't know anything about yet."
Elijah Wood and Sean Astin will be returning to NZ in June to shoot new scenes that Fran Walsh has recently written involving Gollum, which is the material for THE TWO TOWERS currently being edited by Jackson. Andy Serkis is still shooting his motion capture material for the films.
RETURN OF THE KING starts with the reforging of Narsil in the foundry of Rivendell.
I'm sure there was more, and I'll do my best to think of it and update this story later this evening.
In the meantime, Quint's a punk for not mentioning me. I could have left his ass twisting in the wind outside, that poster clutched to his desperate little chest. But I got him inside where the action was. And does he even mention me? Or the Holy Grail of all LOTR items that I got Peter, Fran, and Philippa to sign for me? Or how nice everyone from New Line and Wingnut was to us? Or how cool Peter was for taking a private moment to talk to us before starting the signing for everyone else?
No. And for that, he will be punished. Oh, yes... he will.
You ran a piece last week about recording battle sounds for LOTR (Two Towers) at a cricket match. Well, the KiwiChick, her Elderly Parent (long-time Tolkien fan) and the Junior KiwiChick were there and are proud to say that not only did New Zealand TOTALLY trash the Brits in the game, but 25,000 volunteers had a great time being Orcs at the battle before Helm's Deep. Lord Peter J came out (barefoot, in shorts) to a massive standing ovation, before leading everyone in stamping (the stadium seriously shaking), chest thumping, cheering and chanting in the Black Speech (I'd tell you what the chant was but then I'd have to kill you, as friends on the crew kept telling us during filming). I thought cricket was especially appropriate, as it's a totally Tolkien sport, with lots of breaks for eating and drinking. This has got to be THE most participative movie ever made!
Well heres an update from the Lord Of The Rings sound recording at the cricket in Wellington.
First up Peter Jackson came out and explained that the sound was for the battle at Helms Deep he then asked everyone to stamp their feet up and down like they were marching which in a stadium filled with 25,000 people sounds so cool you could almost see the troops of orcs marching to battle. Next up was some chanting in orc now i'm not an expert in the black language but it went kinda like this Darbgoo Darshshoo,Darbgoo Darshnoo, or somthing like that. Next we had to rhythmicly slap our chests,then they wanted to experiment with sounds and got us to all whisper and then to hum and then we had to growl/cheer like we were being addressed by the commamders of the army and were getting ready to kick some butt then he thanked us all and said we could look forward to hearing ourselves in the film and left it was a lot of fun and it was amazing the controll he had over a stadium full of boozed up cricket fans and in case you wanted to know New Zealand won the cricket.
Here's the longest report...
Long-time reader... blah blah blah.
I was at the NZ-England Cricket match in Wellington yesterday, so I thought I'd tell you about the LOTR sound recording. Now the sound effects they recorded weren't sounds from the match itself, but of the crowd between innings (half time).
PJ came out onto the field with his trademark shorts and bare feet and got a massive ovation. Being that this was the Wellington stadium and PJ's a Wellingtonian you can probably imagine that he's a rather popular chap.
There were eight microphones placed around the crowd, and PJ was on the mic orchestrating the crowd. He explained that the first lot of noises he wanted were for the Orcs before the Battle of Helm's Deep.
First off the whole crowd (20,000 people) stamped their feet in time with PJ's, which were shown up on the big screen. Then it was the same thing with chest thumping.
The third one was the toughest, an Orcish language chant. Now being a dumbass, I didn't think to take a pen with me to copy it down. The words were put up on the big screen and at first everyone was "How the fuck do you say that!" But, PJ barked it into the mic, and everyone got the idea. Still, the crowd had to do it four times to get it right. This was followed by random gutrurral yelling, and that was it for being an Orc.
After these were some other sounds, but PJ didn't say where in the movie they'd be used. Firstly everyone in the crowd whispered, no words in particular. Then everyone wheezed. This was probably the worst of all since PJ didn't explain it too well. After the first attempt was a bit of a failure, he changed it to taking a deep breath. And then humming any song at all. And that was it. As he left the pitch a chant of "Oscar! Oscar!" started in patches around the stadium. And then NZ destroyed England, which rounded out a great day's entertainment.
I am known as Rubber
and then here's the pic from the event...
First time writing in so, just the facts man...
Scanned this pic for you this morning (Monday) from the Herald Sun newspaper (Melbourne Australia). Apparently those reports of WETA recording sound effects for part 2 (and 3?) of LOTR's at the England/New Zealand One-Day cricket match were spot on... Even the main man was there, leading the crowd in chants and marching for the sounds he wanted....
Notice they shot him with a wide angle lense (Sorry, cheap shot!!!)
Hope you enjoy.
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Feb. 19, 2002, 1:52 a.m. CST
Lay off the guy for pitty sakes, yea, he's got a gut, but he's also built like a brick shit house. He is short and stocky and looks like he could squat about 400lbs, and could probably kick your ass. Also, he has about as much control over his genetic deck of cards as you do over your lack of wit and intelect. Quit picking of fat people. Oh by the way, your Talkback namesake Siskel, is dead and the fat one is still alive and kicking.
Feb. 19, 2002, 2:11 a.m. CST
by Ambrose Chappell
Damn you and your loud LotR advertisement!
Feb. 19, 2002, 2:13 a.m. CST
With a title like "The Two Towers," film 2 cannot afford to stengthen any 911 associations. Enya is already the poster-girl of 911, because her song "Only Time" became synonymous with 911. Don't ask why; they just played it all the time, in association with the 911 thing in america. So, if Enya has her name plastered over "The Two Towers," it will put a spin on the film which I think PJ et al would like to avoid. Therefore, Loreena must sing instead.
Feb. 19, 2002, 2:14 a.m. CST
Peter Jackson is wearing shorts in NEW ZEALAND because in the island nation it is now summer! What kind of an idiot doesn't know that? P.S. He won't win best director....and LOTR won't win Best picture either...sorry.
Feb. 19, 2002, 2:25 a.m. CST
by Darth Melkor
True dat... That freakin' Khazad Dum music blows my ears out everytime I come here.
Feb. 19, 2002, 2:27 a.m. CST
Or a video camera. Not that I understand Cricket at all.
Feb. 19, 2002, 2:51 a.m. CST
by Aronld Scazziger
Just like that "Windows"-Sound. I was so annoyed I switched to Linux. Well, was a bad idea, Linux does not support Quicktime. Had to switch back again. Damn.
Feb. 19, 2002, 3:24 a.m. CST
Where's the news about TTT trailer and so forth, which is apparently due in mid-March? Apparently this was mentioned at the book signing. This is up at TORN so why isn't it here? Is it not true? Throw us a frickin' bone here...
Feb. 19, 2002, 3:33 a.m. CST
I love the movie, but that ad is annoying, with its cheap, tinny sound. In the meantime, a good cure is, as the page loads, right click on it and click on play. The little tick will vanish and behold! Blessed silence. At least until you reload the page. And the guy isn't that fat. Could definitely beat me in an arm-wrestling match.
Feb. 19, 2002, 3:48 a.m. CST
Only PJ could have 25,000 people eating out of his hand. By the way who cares how PJ looks? I'm sure he doesn't, hell his film just got nominated for 13 Oscars and has made over 700 million at the worldwide box-office, how many of you talkback losers i.e. Darth Siskel, and Darth_shithead(quite a appropriate name for a shithead like yourself) can say the same thing. Give the guy a break. I can guarantee you losers will never become as big a legend as he is or even half descent human beings. PS I'm sure the two Darths, siskel and shithead, are two good looking figures themselves...... Some how I doubt it.
Feb. 19, 2002, 5:14 a.m. CST
"RETURN OF THE KING starts with the reforging of Narsil" ??? What the hell is Narsil? I can only think that it is supposed to be Aragorn's blade ANDURIL - The flame of the west. Which I thought was reforged by the Elves of Rivendell. Just a thought. Can anyone confirm or deny?
Feb. 19, 2002, 6:31 a.m. CST
by edgar frogg
Wow Finally some COOL NEWS aka LOTR INFO! I want to see Two towers! We talk backers must be thankful for Harry's COOL NEWS! the american heroes are here
Feb. 19, 2002, 6:32 a.m. CST
Why didn't you guys mention the signing ahead of time? If you did and I missed it - my apologies. Hey Harry -- you seem to be a Kong geek also. So it would seem that you would be just as excited about the prospect of PJ taking his new found clout to jumpstart his aborted KING KONG remake. Put a bug in his ear would you? We've seen three JP movies -- now we need to see an updated Kong rip the head off of a few T-rex. ~Notageek
Feb. 19, 2002, 6:34 a.m. CST
I am English and do not understand the rules of Cricket either. I feel so god damn ashamed. Still, I feel LOTR brings Brits and Kiwi's a little closer with mutual pride. And thanks to u yanks for paying for it ;-) We'd kick their asses at (proper) football though ;-)
Feb. 19, 2002, 7:03 a.m. CST
Narsil is the name of the sword before it is reforged. Aragorn renames it after it is repaired as the flame of the west, or Anduril. Hope that helps.
Feb. 19, 2002, 7:22 a.m. CST
hey my buddy was on the plane to LA when the pilot came bouncing into first class mid flight, saw the passengers and went OH MY GOD at which point Mr Jackson cringed into his Macs Gold and gaped when the pilot went str8 past him and knelt before mushroom rekkids boss M Gudinsky and said 'Hunters and Collectors Rule!!' referring to the outstanding band mikee ran in the 80's!! eat dirt diehards jp
Feb. 19, 2002, 7:35 a.m. CST
got to love the doenunder privelige of being able to jump tha queue. have to point out that PJ has been serving quiet ones to the true fans for a long long time. i remember the formative sci fi convention where harry harryhausen sat in on PJ demo'ing the puppets from meet the feebles to an enraptured crowd. and for that matter theres the solution to all u c*nts with this absurd starwars ve lotr obsession thx1138 vs bad taste american graffiti vs meet the feebles ANH vs Brain Dead ESB vs The Frighteners ROTJ vs Heavenly Creatures TPM vs FOTR what can u expect for AOYC VS TTT TONGUE THE BUM!!
Feb. 19, 2002, 7:42 a.m. CST
by Brian 2000
In the books Narsil (The sword that cuts the ring from Sauron's finger) is reforged before the Fellowship begin there journey. In that scene with Boromir and Aragorn at Rivendell, Boromir walks up to the broken blade and says "The shards of Narsil!". Anyway in the books Aragorn already accepts his destiny by the time they leave Rivendell. In the movies they have made him more reluctant, to add to the overall drama of his coming being king. Therefore Narsil was not reforged as Aragorn has not fully accepted his destiny, so he will probably get Narsil from Arwen and fight with it at the Battle of Pelennor Fields....I suppose.
Feb. 19, 2002, 9:13 a.m. CST
Nice info. The Narsil sword bit seems reasonable with Arwen. Not at all like the books that we all know, but oh well, nothing will ruin the next 2 films, nothing!! I do find it odd that there is no Star Wars ATOC hype. Seems most dead out there in the SW community. I hear crickets, chriping in the Death Star. Is all dead for Lucas? If you care about SW, still, then you must sign my petition to get PJ to direct/write/produce Episoded III, do it now, while there is still hope!
Feb. 19, 2002, 9:16 a.m. CST
http://www.petitiononline.com/dgkomxpq/petition.html, wow 10 posts in and the TB Order is already broke.
Feb. 19, 2002, 9:35 a.m. CST
and I wanna bear his children.
Feb. 19, 2002, 9:45 a.m. CST
Since most of you find unsolicited sound on the internet annoying, wouldn't going into your preferences, like IE's "Web Content" and unchecking "play sounds" shut the damn thing off? Jesus, lazy bastards. Oh, yes, and Bad Taste is fucking amazing. The fact that we get a swoopy camera, crazy camera angles, deep focus shots, and all that gore, for only 400,000 dollars (dunno the conversion to NZ currency) is phenomenal. PJ is a God. And if you look at Robert (also PJ) in Bad Taste, PJ seems a bit more built?
Feb. 19, 2002, 9:47 a.m. CST
I was very disappointed with the first film and thought it could've been so much better. It was one long boring chase sequence separated by characters that I didn't give a fuck about. I've read the book many times and to think I don't give a shit about these guys... man, that's bad. The DVD might address some of these problems though, so I have every intention of buying that, but I'm still amazed that this film is rated so highly. 13 Oscars? What a joke. I saw nothing in FOTR that elevated it above the typical Hollywood popcorn flick, and in many cases it dumbed down even further. Without the LOTR name it would have sunk without trace. That's MY opinion btw, so spare me your bullshit excuses.
Feb. 19, 2002, 9:55 a.m. CST
Whats new, we are crap. second lowest score ever.
Feb. 19, 2002, 9:57 a.m. CST
Btw, when is some idiot gonna suggest a title change? That I gotta see, if only to ridicule.
Feb. 19, 2002, 10:08 a.m. CST
I've been hopping around a few talkbacks today, and I think I may have spotted something. In general the contributions are even less literate and coherent than usual. Could anybody venture a scientific theory as to why things might be?
Feb. 19, 2002, 10:21 a.m. CST
Well...as we sit there in the theater, during the Battle of Helms Deep, only one thing will be on our collective minds: "Anyone for for cricket?" I have to hand it Peter Jackson. What better way to capture 25,000 extras then at a local kiwi sporting match?____________________________ Now, with all the buzz about the new footage and 3+ minute preview for TTT, might I just humbly ask that we skip the third wave of LOTR backlash on these boards (the first being the release, the second being it's 13 Academy nominations)? Please. For me. We know you don't like the film. We get it. In return, we could offer a treaty of fair warning over our numerous outpourings of emotion over the next two installments of this triology.
Feb. 19, 2002, 10:36 a.m. CST
New Zealand didn't beat the Brits, they beat England. Scotland, Wales & N. Ireland couldn't give two monkey fucks for the worlds most boring sport (tm).
Feb. 19, 2002, 10:46 a.m. CST
about this stuff it's ridiculous. Every week I think I've calmed down, and then Harry comes up with a new bit of news and my heart jumps into a fast conga. I wonder if I should start taking a daily aspirin for it.
Feb. 19, 2002, 11:15 a.m. CST
Before I said this was Harry's site and he could do what he wanted with it because we weren't paying for it, but I have to say that was the biggest load of uninteresting rubbish. It amazes me that a NZ could get so excited about one poxy game anyway. Remember Harry, THE news- objectivity wouldn't hurt. I'm getting sick of f'ing LOTR.
Feb. 19, 2002, 11:17 a.m. CST
Why was it astounding anyway. Simply because Peter Jackson stumbled across the pitch during every break- wow that must have been during lunch and tea when nobody cares anyway.
Feb. 19, 2002, 11:50 a.m. CST
Really, if you think about it, you'd just need to extrapolate PJ a bit and you'd have a fairly sturdy Dwarf. I agree that he ain't so much fat as stocky (husky, as the size used to be called in the Boys Dept at clothing stores.) In any case, cheap shots at him because of his size make no friggin sense. First, he's not a movie star but a filmmaker, and from all that I have seen, an uncommonly down-to-earth and unpretentious one, and for that we should all be grateful. Now, since everyone else has weighed in on this LOTR vs Star Wars rivalry...whatever: There will always be people who will need to trash one thing or another in support of their own favorites. That is human nature. It is also immature. Lucas has faults in the way he has sold and repackaged his series, but he did create a mythology that continues to grow and develop, that continues to amaze and delight, and props to him for that. Having said that, I find that I am anticipating TTT with the same eagerness I waited for TESB 23 years ago. Star Wars is still a wonderful thing. So is LOTR. So, hopefully, will be another vision by yet another filmmaker, in the future. There is room for all of these worlds in our hearts. Kind of a rambling post, but you get what I mean. Peace.
Feb. 19, 2002, 12:39 p.m. CST
Does anyone know the cast for "The Two Towers" or a website I can check for info?
Feb. 19, 2002, 1:11 p.m. CST
dammit, i just heard that they'll release LOTR on DVD without extras in the summer, with extras a little later and with added scenes later. Add this to the attempt to lure people back to theatres with a Two Towers trailer, and PJ is starting to rival Lucas as the greediest filmmaker in the world. I suddently hope Altman gets that directors oscar
Feb. 19, 2002, 2:05 p.m. CST
That was the name of the Blade That Was Broken, the sword with which Isildur cut off Sauron's hand with the Ring (after it was smashed in battle.) According the the books (if memory serves) Aragorn carried it (all the broken pieces) around in his scabbard, and it was reforged in Rivendell just before the Fellowship left on their quest. So PJ has revised it quite a bit, but at least he will reintroduce the sword at some point. Narsil was on display in pieces in Rivendell (in the movie,) but after the reforging (in the novels) it was renamed Anduril. I would assume the name change will remain in RotK.
Feb. 19, 2002, 2:13 p.m. CST
No need to go to the Dark Side, Microsoft, just because you have an Intel/AMD computer and want to play QuickTime movies. Linux can do it. Go to http://www.codeweavers.com/products/crossover/ for a $30 program that lets you play Shockwave and Quicktime movies both standalone and as a web browser plug-in or http://openquicktime.sourceforge.net/ for a free open source QuickTime for Unix/Linux program that's being worked on.
Feb. 19, 2002, 2:23 p.m. CST
by Billy Talent
Name the movie, name the thespia, win $1000 a week for life! Seriously! (Hint: Sycophancy has its privileges) But onto the subject of 'LotR' special editions, isn't anyone remotely concerned? I for one HATED 'Apocalypse Now Redux', I'm not looking forward to the new 'E.T.', and I'll stick with my 'Star Wars' tapes if the untampered with original trilogy isn't released on DVD. It would be nice to see a 'Special Edition' that was truly special, and although I think 'LotR:FotR' is already overlong, the additional footage could potentially solve some of its flaws (adding a little characterization, fleshing out the abrubt action sequences, etc.) A little re-cutting, perhaps a 'Phantom Edit', might do wonders for that movie. But I can easily imagine this DVD will leave a bad taste in many fans mouths. What if it's just an extra half hour of bad bits, clumsily inserted?
Feb. 19, 2002, 2:44 p.m. CST
King Kong's new script was stupid. The DVD should include a TTT trailer and all the extras in ONE DVD, people should work hard at that, and bring down the price towards TTT or something. PJ is cool and seems REALLY nice and down to earth.
Feb. 19, 2002, 2:46 p.m. CST
Why do we continue to play trescothick so high up. a mor middle order say where thorpe plays would be better suited to his style of play
Feb. 19, 2002, 3:02 p.m. CST
They practically have a monopoly in this state, and they're no longer playing Fellowship Of The Rings. Which means if I want to see the new reel, I have to drive for hours to find an independent theater in a different town. FUCK CARMIKE!
Feb. 19, 2002, 3:12 p.m. CST
Yeah --- it was about as stupid as that Lord of the Rings script written by the same two people.
Feb. 19, 2002, 3:26 p.m. CST
Feb. 19, 2002, 3:34 p.m. CST
can i see QUINT at on eof these pictures????? why does i live in germany...can someone explain it to me??? ok infact i`m happy that i live in germany instead of the united states ..hehehe....in particular not in texas.... but i know that i`ll never get the possibility of attending on such an event....that`s unfair..... :( ;)
Feb. 19, 2002, 3:50 p.m. CST
by Charles Grady
Looks like some major geekage there. Guess no healthy-looking people like LOTR...just kidding. As for the dude posting that Mori was undercover as a "slightly Asian looking female," Don't they have Asians or minorities where you people live? Can't you tell the difference between Thai, Malaysian, Filipino, Chinese, Korean, Japanese, etc.? Los Angeles has a HUGE Asian population, and anyone who lived in L.A. could tell what ethnicity the woman was, not that it should matter. Unlike the hick towns where the majority of AICN TalkBackers live, we have tremendous racial diversity, and it just seemed weird to have someone point to anonymous person and call attention to their race. I don't know what my point is, I'm not really trying to flame anyone, just weird to me that anyone would point out that those women looked "slightly Asian." And how come I'm not seeing many posts from people who actually attended the Bretano's bookstore thing? Why do such rabid film geeks NOT live in Los Angeles? Anyone who loves and talks film as much as you guys should live in L.A.!
Feb. 19, 2002, 4:16 p.m. CST
I agree with the poster that said cricket kicks the crap out of baseball. It truly does. England sucks at it though. New Zealand are ok (nothing great) but at least they arent arrogant about it like the Brits are (as they are about everything). However Pakistan (where I'm from) kickas the crap out of both those teams (in fact arguably any team). Australia is damn good too but NEZXT QWORLD CUP
Feb. 19, 2002, 4:19 p.m. CST
is what i meant to finish off with in my last post. hehe.....
Feb. 19, 2002, 4:46 p.m. CST
by 1st Elder
It's the casual viewers who need it -- the fans want it, but the clueless NEED it. I came out of the movie over the weekend, and a guy in front of me says, "that's it, that's the end? And now we gots to wait 2 years to see the next one?!? What the fuck!?!" I said from day one they should have had some kind of preview or "comming soon..." tacked on to the end. Oh well...
Feb. 19, 2002, 5:42 p.m. CST
LOL the reaction of people to FOTR ending is damn funny mostly cause of the TTT ending (unless Jackson messes around exceedingly) That'll be damn funny.
Feb. 19, 2002, 5:47 p.m. CST
lostvegabrother here, your kiwi connection. I was interested to note someone quoted $400,000 for Bad Taste to be made. I can neither confirm nor deny this figure, but true fact on how PJ got started.... "Bad Taste" was a movie PJ was making in the weekends with his friends using (I believe) a 16mm camera. The NZ film comission got wind of what he was up to, saw some footage & started contributing towards the budget. You can tell this just by watching the film - PJ filmed from the first scene to the last, and as the film goes on you can see the improvements in the film's standards & budgets (True story - that's how the great filmmaker got his break). That Pakistani who thinks they're going to win the next world cup... LOL. Pakistan are only just less crappy than England. Did'nt Kenya beat them in the last world cup? Not to say they did'nt throw that game because their team is corrupt as it gets. We have Chris Cairns (The Cricketing equivalent of GOD) and that cup will be on Kiwi Shores, no doubt...
Feb. 19, 2002, 5:54 p.m. CST
The Fellowship of the Ring will be winging it's way to the historic Senator theater(a few blocks from my old house!) after it's run of Gosford Park that ends March 1st. Then we have about two weeks of LOTR at the Senator with the new Two Towers footage, then the remastered version of E.T comes in for it's run. Something else will happen in between, then Episdoe 2! What a great Spring!
Feb. 19, 2002, 6:02 p.m. CST
He's cool, his movies all rock. Nice to see some good LOTR news for once. Especially now - I just got my fucking wisdom teeth removed today!
Feb. 19, 2002, 6:22 p.m. CST
Damn, Pete Jackson, you are so fucking cool, it's a crime. You are redefining the role of Film Director. I salute you, sir.
Feb. 19, 2002, 7:13 p.m. CST
I was at that signing yesterday. Waited in line for 5 hours. I've got a nice box set of LOTR signed by PJ, Sean, Fran, and Phillipa. Oh yes, my preciousss... Mine forever... My friend got a Cliff Notes of LOTR signed. All four of them got a kick out of that. Being in the presence of PJ is nothing short of amazing. Highly recommended.
Feb. 19, 2002, 7:16 p.m. CST
TTT will be the best film of the three!!! Its definitely my favourite book of the three. Lets just think; the seige of Helms Deep and Isengard, Shelob, The White Rider, Cirith Ungol, the Dead Marshes - bugger me, I can't wait!! I would pump the drinks in celebration if all the pubs wern't closed!!
Feb. 19, 2002, 7:35 p.m. CST
he thought God said jelly, and asked for an extra large wibbly-wobbly one.
Feb. 19, 2002, 8:18 p.m. CST
cuz running faster, jumping higher, throwing harder and hitting further is always more boring.
Feb. 19, 2002, 9:12 p.m. CST
But what the hell do I know.
Feb. 19, 2002, 9:41 p.m. CST
I hear PJ is weighing whether to make the director's cut 3 1/2 or 4 hours... YEAH, LIKE WE NEED TO ASK WHICH ONE THE FANS PREFER!
Feb. 19, 2002, 10:02 p.m. CST
It definately looks like Aragorn will now recieve Narsil when he leaves on the paths of the dead at the beginning of ROTK, obviously taken to him by Arwen which is good becuse if this is the case then we probably won't be seeing Arwen at the battle of Helms Deep in TTT.
Feb. 19, 2002, 10:10 p.m. CST
by Darth Melkor
Anyone else wondering how this character aka GOLLUM will translate? In the book he's my favorite character of the whole series and definately the most interesting, but seems like some of his actions may be over the top in live action... and his voice "Smeagol yes, Gollum... Hobbitses! Yes Master hobbitses nice to Gollum...sssssss..." And so on.
Feb. 20, 2002, 12:28 a.m. CST
SO, because I wasn't impressed by LOTR that makes me a troll? Man, what a deluded idiot you are. The movie was a disappointment, IN MY OPINION. What part of that don't you understand and I'll be happy to explain? You bitches scream troll whenever someone says anything you dislike. It's just an excuse. And THAT is boring. Dumbass.
Feb. 20, 2002, 12:31 a.m. CST
SO, because I wasn't impressed by LOTR that makes me a troll? Man, what a deluded idiot you are. The movie was a disappointment, IN MY OPINION. What part of that don't you understand and I'll be happy to explain? You bitches scream troll whenever someone says anything you dislike. THAT is boring. Dumbass.
Feb. 20, 2002, 12:38 a.m. CST
...especially when I'm replying to a moron like Ingold. He might never see my post. Still, that would be fine for someone who likes to bury his head in the sand, and use the oh-so-clever TROLL comeback. Ignorance is bliss I guess.
Feb. 20, 2002, 2:03 a.m. CST
by Darth Melkor
All movies are about money... except for indie films. Sure fans love LOTR but it's still about nothing more than money to the makers. This fact is proven with the added TTT footage and the DVD release in August followed by the better version in November. Both just to get fans to give more money. Every fan will buy the August version then run out and rebuy it in November and New Line knows this. If it wasn't about money they'd just release the better version right away. I do agree that Fox and Lucasfilm can be very greedy in their 50 releases of movies and this is definately that type of move. Personally I won't buy either. I'm going to wait for the inevitable super box set of all three movies coming out after ROTK.
Feb. 20, 2002, 2:56 a.m. CST
The LOTR film script was simply a written translation from a book. The KK script did suck. And it sucked hard.
Feb. 20, 2002, 5:38 a.m. CST
Yeah, Dorante, must say I have an enormous soft spot for the little sneak. And he gets a lot of the best lines - he's quite a sarcastic little bastard in a work that is pretty Irony Lite. That said, he is one of the few things that works in the Bakshi movie, and the same guy did him in the BBC radio play with quite an expanded role and he translated really well. I'm more worried about the CGIness of him, to tell the truth. He has to work because he's a major character and if he doesn't that will snap me right out of the movie. It's my major worry about TTT, far more so than Arwen showing up in plotwise inappropriate places. I can pretty much live with Aragorn having to wait for Anduril.
Feb. 20, 2002, 5:53 a.m. CST
Yep, we're shit at cricket, but we taught you everything you known about it. We're also arrogant, but then we did civilise most of the world (heh heh). Just check where Longitude Zero sits! Oh, and what language are we all speaking right now? Relax, I'm just jerking your chain.
Feb. 20, 2002, 6:21 a.m. CST
by Cash Bailey
Cricket players have only their bare hands and a far bigger field to cover. Scientists did tests and proved that it was physically impossible to play cricket - that the reaction time from the speed of the ball to the batter getting the information to the brain then back down to his arms to play the shot just isn't possible. But they do it. Allllllll day if their good enough.
Feb. 20, 2002, 6:44 a.m. CST
right, we know there is going to be one released in the late summer which sounds like it is going to be a straightforward edition and then a super-dooper all singing all dancing one released later in the year, is this right? I don't call that being ripped off, I call that being given a choice. Now if they released one and THEN released a special edition without telling anyone in advance, that would be a bastard. I just don't see what is wrong with having a choice. Of course I won't be able to wait and will buy the first one asap and then give it to a charity shop as soon as I get my greasy mitts on the one with the extra footage but it's my choice and I have got money to burn.
Feb. 20, 2002, 9:44 a.m. CST
It's probably some crappy Shockwave thing. Maybe I'll just start using iCab more regularly? At least in that I can tell it not to load images from servers other than aintitcool's. Anyway, as for the figure of 400,000 for Bad Taste, that's according to the liner notes from the Anchor Bay DVD by Michael Felsher. PJ had financed around 11,000 of it himself, then, as another poster noted, the NZ Film Commission started investing in it. By the time it was finished, it came in at 400,000 US. How funny is it that Bad Taste, Meet the Feebles, and Braindead, horrendously gory and silly films, got government funding? More evidence that PJ is a genius.
Feb. 20, 2002, 11:24 a.m. CST
Why then do they put so much emphasis on the sword Aragorn uses in the battle at the end of FOTR? There are shots that frame the sword alone suggesting the sword has already been reforged.
Feb. 20, 2002, 1:31 p.m. CST
Having widescreen TWICE does not appeal to me... maybe the first will be standard, so we won't lose many of the tiny details that are there, but too small to appreciate... And the widescreen later on, with the extras... ?
Feb. 20, 2002, 3:41 p.m. CST
i think of it renaming myself talkbackisoutoforder so i don`t have to write it every time i post something! yes harry!!....out of order talkback sucks ....belive me!!! and PLeeeeeeeeeaaase repair it!!!!!!
Feb. 20, 2002, 4:40 p.m. CST
Quit askin' Harry to fix the fuckin talk back he can't or he would. I bet he didn't make the damn thing to begin with. Quit saying Harry get a real messageboard cause he won't. Aintitcoolnews is about,:Fucked up talkback orders, Endless SW vs LOTR debates, doing shit that other websites would call the cops on your for, and endless popup adds to help Harry pay for his porno website monthly dues. BTW. 1 dollar of every LOTR DVD goes for NAMBLA's operational expenses. Butt, Inside every DVD jacket is a coupon for 1 free jar jar of Pro-troll-eum jelly and a map of 101 gay buttfucker positions for your enjoyment. Copyright 2002 elf Killer
Feb. 20, 2002, 5:07 p.m. CST
by Trav McGee
...And you really came up with 101 of em? Ouch. You'll be walking funny for days, I bet. Had no idea you were such a gayist. >shrug<
Feb. 20, 2002, 6 p.m. CST
In response to Ginger_Jedi's post above...Narsil was renamed to Anduril after its reforging. In the book, this occured prior to the Fellowship's departure from Rivendell.
Feb. 20, 2002, 6:05 p.m. CST
peter jackson is such a cutie patootie. imho, though, the script was really really well done for an almost-unadaptable work. :) i hope it wins the oscar!
Feb. 20, 2002, 8:06 p.m. CST
Actually, we have baseball over here. It's called "rounders" and is exclusively played by 11 year old girls. Anyway they're all boring, cricket, football, whatever. Nude hobbit mud-wrestling, now THAT'S entertainment.
Feb. 20, 2002, 10:45 p.m. CST
by Andre Nickatina
Peter Jackson can lick my balls. He is a fat slob who directs like my grandma. And my grandma's dead. Anyway, they shouldn't have left out the gift giving scene in the first place. Some of the gifts she gives are very important later on. All you LotR fans know what I'm talkin bout. So WTF. And if scientists ran some tests saying cricket is physically impossible, they must have been some fucked up scientists since people have been playing the damn sport for years. If you pussies want a sport, try wrestling. Or (american) football. But I can respect cricket and most other sports... even curling. Peter Jackson: SUCK IT! LICK MY BALLS! WHOOO! (no, I'm not serious)
Feb. 20, 2002, 11:11 p.m. CST
FACT#1:the sword that Isildur used to cut the ring off of Sauron's hand is Narsil, the sword of Elendil, Isildur's father, who we see twice in the movie, once when he is killed at the beginning, and later on the river Anduin, he is the statue on the right that the camera flys by.(interesting side note: When Aragorn jumps onto the two orcs near the end, he shouts "Elendil!") FACT#2:According to the book, Narsil IS reforged BEFORE the fellowship leaves Rivendell, but it is unstandable that that would have had to been cut due to time. FACT#3:The new sword is named Anduril. FACT#4:If you want to see what the reforged sword looks like, check out the new printing of the books that everyone has seen in their local bookstore. Its the three books in a box set with black backgrounds. On the ROTK book there is a picture of Aragorn holding a sword that looks like it has been made from shards of something else. Without a doubt--Anduril. THWAP!!(THE SOUND OF MY OWN ARROW HITTING ITS MARK ON THOSE WHO BEAT DOWN OTHERS WITHOUT READING THE BOOKS FIRST.)
Feb. 21, 2002, 5:58 a.m. CST
It's the same one...the sword Aragorn is using after Rivendell IS Anduril, you can see that in several scenes. The one he had before had a different hilt.
Feb. 21, 2002, 7:35 a.m. CST
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Feb. 21, 2002, 8:55 a.m. CST
by mad maximus
I dropped by yesterday to confirm this and I was told that there was not confirmation for Christopher Lee as of 2/20/2002. If you do want to see him call Barnes and Noble at 212-253-0810
Feb. 21, 2002, 10:45 a.m. CST
by Pallando Blue
[I'm talking the movie here, newbies, I know the what happens in the book.] ...AND you can tell by the hilt--the pommel is competely different. Narsil on the statue in Rivendell has a very clear tear-drop-shaped (but w/ 3 points) "hole" at the pommel, which flares out parallel to the blade, rounded at its base. The sword Aragorn carries throughout Fellowship (THE MOVIE) is the same bulb-pommelled sword he carries in Bree: solid, round, and pointed at the base. AND, sorry to whoever pointed it out (missed yer handle, my bad), but concerning the ROTK bookjacket showing Aragorn on horseback, that again ISN'T Anduril--the same solid pommel. It looks a mess, I'm thinking, because of all the orcs it's been a-choppin'. (Never a page boy with a blood-rag around when you need one.) But hey, 3 out of 4 FACTs ain't bad. ;-) Anyway, I'm sure in one of the official Visual Companion tie-in books at your same bookstore there's a clear shot of Narsil's hilt; compare and contrast with the ROTK cover's hilt. *** Eternal ya old salt, as always you make a good read. But elanor's dead-on (as always--sheesh!). You don't get picked on for your opinion, but because you're an asshole. :) It ain't the content, it's the delivery, bub. And you're surprised and >sniff< somehow injured when Ingold slaps ya? Don't go soft on us, Eternal! Used to be a FUN asshole; don't become just another useless TBer. *** Just a quick dip-in, life's more hectic 'an a Hobbit party when the kegs're running dry. Add idiots and ORDER-HOSE-A-RAMA and I'll happily be back when this is a mere Tail-end.
Feb. 21, 2002, 10:57 a.m. CST
Uh-Oh! DVD is one big fuckin' let down. The only good thing about it is the picture and sound quality. The rest is just a bunch of rubbishy info that most people knew already. OOOH! Re-edit scenes yourself - if i'd wanted to do that I would have tried to become an editor. Listen to the third assistant tea-boy gush excitedly about how WONDERFUL it all was. It has just been one long excuse to put up the price of buying films for home entertainment. ALL I WANT TO SEE IS WHAT I SAW IN THE CINEMA!! Maybe i'm alone here but there is usually a reason why they cut scenes *cough* Lucas *cough*. Why don't they just release a nice disc of the film with great quality picture and sound. Peter Jackson is just a pair of jeans and a checked shirt away from becoming George Lucas's greedy little brother....
Feb. 21, 2002, 11:17 a.m. CST
by Pallando Blue
The first DVD, in August, is just a bare-bones edition (apparently) and exactly what you ask for: "a nice disc of the film with great quality picture and sound." That's it, no frills, just the theatrical version. (Though maybe with 2-3 Trailers! 3-Language Subtitles! and... Scene Selection! >pumping fist in air< Yyyyesss) Along with its VHS release at the same time. So no gripin'. As someone else pointed out, the fact that they're ANNOUNCING that there'll eventually be two versions takes 'em out of the greedhead bait-n-switch gang. They're saying up front we'll be getting a CHOICE, if we want it and have the patience. (Willpower's OUR problem, not theirs.) There'll be no surprise Special Edition, after the first release racks up the cash. (No, um, hushed-up DVD release only announced a full year after the VHS-only release *COUGH*) So rejoice! All types of home-viewer/DVD buyers get what they want! Let's not act TOO spoiled, hmmm? *** Okay, REALLY gotta go, kegs're dry and the crowd's gettin unruly....
Feb. 21, 2002, 3:24 p.m. CST
Its true. Why has no-one gone ape sjit over this yet? Roll on TTT I can hardly wait. "Fly you fools". http://www.numenoreen.com/Images/GandalfHelm.jpg http://www.numenoreen.com/Images/AVHelm.jpg http://www.numenoreen.com/Images/HDRAragorn.jpg
Feb. 21, 2002, 4:38 p.m. CST
by The Grey Pilgrim
I keep seeing people whining about how P. Jackson is as big a money grubbing comercialist whore as G Lucas. Really this type of cynical just to be cynical - stupid logic is really just ticking me off. First off , unlike most DVDs where you buy a supposed "Special Edition" and 6 months later they publish an "Ultimante Special Edition" - Your actually bieng warned that FOTR is bieng released in two formats seperately. Secondly the logic that if it wasnt about money they would just release the "Special Edition" w extra footage first is ignorant. People are so stupid , you dont even realize when a gift is bieng given to you. Fans, like me , want this on DVD yestarday. What there saying is : well to give you a dvd w extra footage and features will take an extra 6 or 7 months but if youd like well give you a bare bones version to tide you over till then. This is cool ... Im happy. Ill pay to watch the regular version while were waiting for the enhanced dvd. If your not a fan - dont buy the regular dvd and wait for the enhanced ...but for heavens sake stop complaining.
Feb. 22, 2002, 12:03 a.m. CST
The Don was THE greatest sportsman ever without a shadow of a doubt and though I respect various other stars such as Ali and they just do not compare.
Feb. 22, 2002, 12:13 a.m. CST
The Don was THE greatest sportsman ever without a shadow of a doubt and though I respect various other stars such as Ali and they just do not compare.
Feb. 22, 2002, 2:21 a.m. CST
If he wasn't a FAMOUS slob, that pic would fit right in at crazy.codetroop.com, or those E/N pages with pics of people generally looking bizzare.
Feb. 22, 2002, 2:28 a.m. CST
Hi all, I'm new here. I also work at the Barnes & Noble where PJ is coming to talk tomorrow with his posse. Last I heard -- which was today (the 21st) -- Christopher Lee is coming too. I can post photos, if they let me take some. I should have them in about 2 weeks, tops. I'm so excited!! ...I wish they let employees get special stuff, like... I dunno... Getting things signed... Which won't be allowed, unfortunately. It's just a discussion followed by Q&A.
Feb. 22, 2002, 2:49 a.m. CST
The Fox Who Wondered! I am so glad he made it in after all! He was one of the things that endeared the book(s) to me in the first place. I shall look for him the next time I am at the theater.
Feb. 22, 2002, 3:01 a.m. CST
Feb. 22, 2002, 5:16 a.m. CST
Andy, thanks for that link. There's some really inspired stuff here.
Feb. 22, 2002, 8:29 a.m. CST
by Almost Sexy
Wow, first post in a long time. Isn't that Bill Murray's character's line to Robert DeNiro in Mad Dog and Glory. Y'know, I actually liked the guy from NYPD Blue (Caruso) in that film. Oh well, nice talking to you all again...(I love ellipses....)
Feb. 22, 2002, 8:32 a.m. CST
by Almost Sexy
The other quote is John (not related to the singer) McClane in Die Hard to Al Powell, I think, as played by Reginald Veljohnson (I think I just made that last name up; it's been a long time since 1989...)
Feb. 22, 2002, 8:20 p.m. CST
Okay, I'll admit it, I was rather late to the Union Square bookstore because I had misread the times. I didn't mind though, I mean, just standing up towards the extreme back (in the same room as Peter Jackson and Christopher Lee) was perfection up for me. But that wasn't it. After the session, I retired towards the rear of the floor (by the up escalator and the cordoned off hall). They were signing books and I was desperately thinking whether I could run back to my apartment and retrieve my 1965 edition of the novel; a signature on it would mean a lot more than one of those (inferior) modern editions. That's when it happened: Christopher Lee exited through that cordoned-off hallway and for some reason stopped right in front of me. If I had had the guts, I would have stuck out my hand...but...I couldn't do it. I was kind of hyper-ventilating slightly at the time...I still can't believe my luck; if I hadn't been standing there.... But on the other hand, I never did get my book back to the store.
Feb. 22, 2002, 9:03 p.m. CST
I was standing like 2 feet away from Christopher Lee too!! Holy shitttt that was so freakin cool! And I got a copy of LOtR signed by PJ and Fran Walsh... holy lord this was definely the best day od my life!!!
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