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Nimblefoot gives a look at Dreamworks' upcoming TIME MACHINE!!!
Hey folks, Harry here with the a look at TIME MACHINE, the latest adaptation, this one by Simon Wells and Dreamworks. Upon seeing THE COUNT OF MONTE CRISTO, I again became interested in seeing this film and hoping for the best with it. I like Guy Pearce quite a bit in that period film, and I look forward to seeing him in this. Now Nimblefoot below has zero exposure to the original book or the George Pal film. I recommend that Nimblefoot and all the rest of you that have yet to see George Pal's film, click here for
The Time Machine Regular Edition DVD, or for the giant box set of
The Time Machine - Limited Edition DVD. Finally, you can not call yourself a geek if you have never read H.G. Wells' original book, this is where you can get that:
The Time Machine Paperback! These are not necessary to enjoy the upcoming film, in fact reading or seeing them may change your feelings about the current film quite a bit, BUT... whether before or after you owe it to yourself to see the brilliant original and to read one of the finest science fiction novels ever written. Now here's Nimble's review...
Hey Harry,
This is Nimblefoot again. I sent you the very first test screening review of BLADE 2 a few months back and I'm here now with a quick look at next month's sci-fi adventure THE TIME MACHINE. The review starts below... but there are some spoilers.
I managed to catch an advanced screening of THE TIME MACHINE yesterday courtesy of the Los Angeles Comic Book and Sci-Fi Convention. Now I have never read the original story by H.G. Wells or seen the 1960 version by George Pal so I'm not sure if all of the elements have remained true to the source material. I did, however, find the movie to be an entertaining bit of sci-fi escapism. It begins in the year 1899 as Dr. Alexander Hartdegen (Guy Pearce), a brilliant scientist, is hurrying out the door to meet up with his lovely girlfriend Emma. The two of them find each other in the park that evening and decide to take a romantic stroll together... and that's when tragedy strikes. A mugger comes out of the shadows and holds them at gunpoint. He tries to rob them both (moments after Alexander has proposed to Emma) and there is a struggle. Emma is shot and killed in the process and the mugger escapes into the night leaving Alexander shaken an! d horrified.
Four years later, Alexander is still heart broken and haunted by the memory of that tragic night. He uses his scientific knowledge to create a Time Machine that can allow him to travel into the past and future. He returns to the night that Emma was killed and does his best to avoid the outcome but a very different chain of events causes Emma's death. Fueled by his desire to know why he can't change the past, Alex goes into the Time Machine and sets a course for the future, determined to find the answers when science has advanced.
He gets a glimpse of the future in the year 2030 when massive skyscrapers fill the landscape, underground cities are in development on the moon and the New York Public Library's information center is a holographic representation of Orlando Jones (a surprisingly funny character). Alexander then reappears in the year 2037 only to find that the moon is collapsing due to a major screw-up with the demolitions for a Lunar colony and now the earth is being destroyed by its own orbit. An accident happens and Alexander is knocked out cold, accidentally hitting the lever on the Machine and travelling 800,000 years into the future.
When he regains consciousness he discovers that the world is a very different place since he last saw it. Very different. I will stop right about here since there is no need to spoil the entire movie for you. The film gets into some very bleak territory and becomes a hell of a lot darker that I expected. The only major problem was that the movie was too short, everything came and went so fast that we really didn't have enough time to connect with most of the characters and even less time to absorb the main villain whose appearance must have lasted a little under ten minutes. Aside from that I thought the movie was solid fun. I really enjoyed it (more for it's technical wonders and beautiful film score) as a decent sci-fi romp with some great special effects. Trust me, the 'time travel' effects are awesome.
As far as acting, Guy Pearce does his best impression of Johnny Depp's Ichabod Crane and Jeremy Irons gets creepy evil as the albino Uber 'Moorlock' (a race of creatures who hunt and feed on humans). There is even a decent performance from pop singer Samantha Mumba who plays Mara, a member of a peaceful tribe of primitive humans called the Eloi. Plus, those Moorlocks are a scary bunch who run on all fours at warp speed, attack you with blow darts and lay the smackdown on Guy Pearce. Cool stuff. This movie reminded me very much of STARGATE, a very enjoyable, not quite classic sci-fi adventure. At least this movie's got Moorlocks. FEAR THE MOORLOCKS!!!
-Nimblefoot
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...afraid the book wasn't much longer there buddy.
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Nimblefoot is in desperate need of a George Pal fix. Time Machine, Conquest Of Space, Destination Moon, When Worlds Collide, The 7 Faces of Dr.Lao, Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm and a few Puppetoons to boot.
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Feb 18, 2002 9:30:25 PM CST
Damn, I hate when I pass out against the time-lever and find mys
by happywaffle
word.
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Anyone who has seen the quick cuts know that the creature effects and "cityscapes" just suck and look so fake. Even in the .25 seconds they flashed the "Moorlocks" or cityscpaes, they looked terrible and cartoony.
Why does the Eloi speak plain English, btw? How stupid. The Moorlocks aren't even reminiscent of humanity in most ways, but of course the Eloi looks like a calendar girl.
I do like Pearce and he seems to act well, but the cheese factor is very, very high - like Mummy Returns or Tomb Raider high.
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I always wondered why when people travel through time, its an accident? (see Back To The Future or Time Bandits.) Why is it that people are always motivated by affairs of the heart? Why can't he travel back in time fuled by greed and wanting to rule the world? That would be much more interesting to me.....
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Engish is an ancient language to them that has been taught through the ages and passed down from generation to generation. They rarely speak it (they do have their own language) though they do understand it and when Guy Pearce shows up only speaking that language (or 'The Lex' language as they call it)... well, how else do you think they can communicate?
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This is the first movie of 2002 that I'm really interested in seeing. I like that they are taking away the purely scientific motivation that existed in the Pal film, and make the quest for the time machine so much more personal. I'm also interested to see how they deal with the paradox of travelling into the past.
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Finally, a good sf flik is coming around again. Guy Pearce is pretty good, i've followed him and russel crowe since l.a. confidential. Theyre both australian, right? Yeh, well guy was fuckin robbed for Memento, as was the movie itself in the Academy nominations. Crowe's nominated again though, maybe they thought between him and nicole kidman they nominated enuff australians. By the way I just watched virtuosity again. Does anyone else love that movie and Russel's performance as much as I do? No classic for sure, but definitely underrated.
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what a fuckin' fake review.. read the last paragraph again, now imagine that being spoken over the trailer for this garbage.. fuckin' plants
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Feb 18, 2002 10:17:27 PM CST
If anything this sounds like its based more on George Pal's
by nazismasher
The Time Machine wasn't exaclty his most dramatic piece of writing afterall.
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I think Virtuosity was awesome ... not quite "classic" status but definitely one for the ol' DVD shelf. Found it intriguing both as a computer geek and an action movie buff.
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Okay, joking aside, I'm not sure if this movie will be good or not. All I know is that I liked the book when I read it in high school and can you go wrong with Guy Pierce and Jeremy Irons (Dungeons and Dragons, anyone?)? Well.... maybe you can.
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Has there ever been an explaination of what exactly Jeremy Iron's was upto, in Dungeons and Dragons?It was like someone had slipped ..two whole boxes of industrial strengh overacting tablets, into his cup of tea or something!I know the film was poor , but he was one of the biggest reasons.Oh and the Morlocks in this film look worryingly simular to the doglike leader of the goodies side , in Small Soldiers.Stan Winston strikes again!
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So am I working for New Line or Dreamworks?
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Though I may be from another 'planet'. Oh... and yes, I checked IMDb and those creatures are known as "Morlocks" and not "Moorlocks" (It sounded like "Moorlocks" to me). But what do I know.
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Just kidding, dude. I'm going to see this movie... you get to see the MOON CRACKED INTO TINY BITS!!! How fucking bizarre is that? When I saw that scene in the trailer it actually disturbed the hell out of me. Hey, real quick... what would actually happen if such an 'accident' were to occur, not that it ever would? Wouldn't planet Earth have some REALLY long term problems because of the shift in the moon's gravity? I doubt any human could survive long enough to eventually spawn a "peaceful tribe of primitive humans" unless they were genetically bred with roaches or something.
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it's not like it was a glowing review heaping praise upon praise on the movie. Except for the last paragraph it was pretty much a lame summary of the film. Look guys, I know it's not LOTR or Star Wars related, but just try to chill out.
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I haven't seen even a clip of the flick, from what I've read so far, here's an answer to the moon cracking/earth orbit changing question.
I assume the moon has been fractured. Okay, that's a hell of a stretch, but okay, given that.
You can't blow up the moon with any sort of internal process or external explosive short of an h-bomb the size of an large asteriod embedded in the moon's core. Ain't gonna happen. The moon weights quintillions of pounds, and that kind of mass won't any blow apart with any sort of mining accident. No way.
A crack in the moon would have zero, zero, affects on the orbit of the earth. And it wouldn't affect your birthsign, either.
Now, if you did something like, say, hit the moon with something else the size of the moon at any sort of speed, then you would see a major movement in the moon's orbit, maybe knocking it clear of the earth/moon system entirely. The moon would probably go splash. Then the Earth might do a little oscillating in its orbital path. Not something that would knock it out of a near-normal orbit tho; the moon is not that massive compared to the earth (1:80 mass ratio I remember).
So, nope, a crack in the moon wound't move the earth. The moon's total destruction wouldn't hurt the earth either. Be a hell of a show, though. -
Listen lamer, all I was saying is that a lot of great movies are ruined by throwing in the "rommance plot", instead of just sticking to the point. The greatest thing about Titanic being on DVD is that you can skip directly to the ship sinking and skip the first 2 hours of romantic bullshit. The same can be said for Pearl Harbor (they should of skipped the 3-some and given more background on the Japanesse motivation). And alas the Matrix, a great movie untill she kisses him and brings Neo back from the dead (what a bunch of phooey). Does that mean the next time my computer crashes into a blue screen I can kiss the monitor and bring it back from Microsoft hell?
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So, if I turn on a light, would they scurry under the fridge? Just checking.
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At least do some MINIMAL research. It is MORLOCK, one 'O', not two!
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But anyway, Fear the Morlocks! Come on everybody!
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tell me you were joking. An animation director cannot do live action ever again, because of Monkeybone? It wasn't the script? It was the director, and he couldn't direct reality because he must be obsessed with cartoons and therefore the talent stops there? And now everyone is forever cursed. Right.
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What were the Morlocks and how were they explained in the original version? Was there also an Uber Morlock in that film? You can email me (don't want to post too many spoilers on the talkback).
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I regard the fiction of H. G. Wells as elegantly whimsical, though it seems that Hollywood is determined to turn his imperious prose into bottom-of -the-barrel "acshun-moovy" schlock. Huh? Is there some arcane moviemaking bible that deems that any Wells adaptation must be completely and irredeemably fucked up at all costs? ( I do refer to the on-and-off projected modernisation of "War of the Worlds", though last time I checked that was called "Independence Day" ). I don't want much. All I want is a version of WOTW set in the English countryside of 1899 - a spectacular and savvy "what if?" period adventure-cum- Sci-fi extravaganza. Trust me people, this could be tha shit! Oh yeah, and I want Christopher Eccleston to play the lead. That guy radiates intensity and intelligence and gets far too few opportunities to strut his stuff before the masses ( he was great in Danny Boyle's "Shallow Grave" playing off of Ewen McGregor - don't go in the attic, Ewen!!! -heh heh ). By the way ,George Pal's "Time Machine" ,though intermittently entertaining, is no masterpiece in my opinion. The Eloi should not speak English ( despite whatever technical issues that might entail ) as they are a race of pretty bovines that have completely lost the higher critical faculties of contemporary mankind. Also, whilst I understand that Pal may have felt it would be good to play the Morlocks as Evil Overlords of the poor Eloi for dramatic purposes, I felt that this gave a false perspective on the intent of Well's original novel. The Morlocks are not inherently evil - after all, do they not feed and clothe the shiftless Eloi?- they have simply evolved a way of life which is dependent upon them farming the Eloi like cattle. the Eloi and Morlocks are a two-sided mirror of mankind's possible future, and surely the poignancy of this fact is worth exploring above dumb heroics and cliched exposition? aaah, who gives a shit....it could've been so much better ,is all.
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why the fuck shouldn't we buy shit that harry has links to on his site? i clicked on it just so amazon would pay harry more for ad space and stuff. dude, harry puts this site up and you check it for free, then say "don't let harry make any money." what the fuck is wrong with you? it makes me want to kill you, that's what it does. rip you the fuck to pieces and then fuck those pieces. is that even how you spell pieces? i don't know. but anyways, just thought i'd get the big man's back. he gets more hate from the talkbackers than love, way more. whatever. i'm sure i'll be labled plant or some shit like that, but i just fucking read the movie news everyday on this site. and comments like yours make me scratch my head. remember that South Park episode when Cartman
loses at basketball then says "gimme my ball, i'm going home." do you want harry to take his ball and go home? do you!!!?? plus i wouldn't worry about harry getting influenced by companies like amazon.com thru sponsorship. he gets personal screenings of movies by the directors themselves, and you're worried about Amazon.com influencing him? that's nuts. -
heh, he couldnt write to save his life. did anyone read 1984? some old ass and an old whore do it in russia and they think its all naughty. big shit. if i see this movie, its only to satisfy my Guy Pearce fix. RAVENOUS OWNS J00! Virtosity was a good B movie.
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I love this twisted victorian feel that's going around at the moment, it gives me real hope for the league of extraordinary gentlemen actually getting made. And for the record, yes Guy pierce is cool. BTW, I'm eating blackjacks ATM and i've got a black tongue (I forgot how great they are). Revisit your favourite childhood sweets NOW!!
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Dickhead
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I reckon what happened is Jeremy Iron's agent offered him a role as a wizard, and he thought he'd be doing Gandalf or Snape. Sadly he ended up in Dungeons and Dragons, and had to play pantomime to keep his sense of humour. Anyway, does this qualify as Steampunk? *** I'm with nixon45.. if you're going to buy through Amazon, you may as give a kickback to a favourite site. Doesn't cost you anything, and it might keep the popups down (ha! fat chance).
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I just finished reading "The Time Machine". "Just finished" as in "just a few minutes ago". Basically, with the way the contents of this film compares to the book, I'm shocked that they're even using the same name, or sticking in bits and pieces from the original book. In the original book, there is no journey to the year 2030, the entire thing about the main character's girlfriend and the mugging and such is not present (he doesn't even have a girlfriend), there is no "Uber Morlock", none of the people in the future speak English, and the Morlocks do not move super-fast. And from the things that I saw in the "HBO: First Look" episode about this movie, the Eloi are tan-skinned, very human looking, and some of them are adults. In the book, they all look like stereotypical aliens (big eyes, pale skin, frail bodies, etc.), do not speak English, and all resemble human children. Bottom line, this movie is the bare bones of H.G. Wells' original book, with clich
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Anyone seen Time after Time with Malcolm McDowell and David Warner. The two best actors in the world. Malcolm is H.G Wells and Warner is Jack the Ripper. They end up in San Francisco in the late seventies. One of the most superb, warm and witty films you'll ever see. And don't knock H.G, he basically invented the tank.
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Feb 19, 2002 8:00:48 AM CST
when I think of time machine, the last thing I want to be remind
by kitan
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Is it me, or is there like nothing good out this year so far, besides the films that were released at Christmas in LA and NY but not wide. I'm really looking forward to this, It's a film I've been excited about for awhile. The Spring looks a little better, but not by much. To all you Baltimore LOTR lovers, it is coming to the Senator Theater in a few weeks!!! I'm betting with the Two Towers trailer. For those who don't know, the Senator is an old theater that has the fancy lobby, fancy interiors, and one humongous screen! All the Star Wars films go there, as do most of the Spielberg films as well. If you are ever in Baltimore, check out the Senator. Only a few blocks from my old house! Finally, speking of Wells, any news on The War of the Worlds re-make? I remember Harry was really excited about that one.
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Firstly, no, this movie won't be like the book. Neither was Pal's movie. Didn't the time traveller wind up in a "golden age of science" in the book, and didn't he eventually travel to the far, far future when there's nothing but trilobytes left on earth? Secondly, GI Jew, the Time Bandits WERE motivated by greed. They were treasure hunters. Thirdly, I can only hope the Morlocks in this film scare the hell out of some little kid the way the Pal Morlocks scared me when I was a young'n. sk
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Feb 19, 2002 10:32:03 AM CST
Reconciling the Book with the movie... (damn enter key!)
by voice o. reason
The funny thing about this movie is that they are AWARE of H.G. Wells and George Pal's works (which included Eloi and Morlocks). One can only assume that Guy Pearce went back to 1899, met with Wells, and told him the story of his adventure. Wells reworked it into a novel, inspiring Pal to rework it into a movie.
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You can be afraid of Moorlocks, whatever they are, as long as I can be afraid of Morlocks.
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For anyone who liked H.G. Wells' original, I can recommend Steven Baxter's 'The Time Ships' which is a direct sequel to the first book.
I won't spoil it here, but I can say that unlike most sequels it actually adds to the first story. It starts right after the end of the first book and follows our unnamed hero and a companion as they whizz between the future Earth, alternate realities and the distant past. Of course nothing ever goes to plan...
It reads very much like the original and like all of Baxter's novels ends with a suitably awesome concept.
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and it's widely believed (I believe it, I mean) that the Eloi/Morlocks section of the book was undisguised socialist criticism of the parasitism of the English class system. An emasculated "elite" lived cosseted lives on the laboring backs of a working class they were dimly aware of, except for a distaste for their supposed crudeness. Just so, the class system dehumanized the working class, turning them into fearsome brutes, deficient in hygiene and poorly equipped for parlor conversation, the very mark of the better class. Movie's still gonna be the joint.
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I could be (and probably am) wrong, but I've read that if the moon were to be blown apart, that it would form a ring (or two) around the earth, like Saturn or Uranus. Gravity would be slightly altered, but probably not enough to make the planet uninhabitable. However, and this is the REALLY scary thing, womens' menstrual cycles are supposedly affected by the tides and the moon. Disrupt something like THAT, and we're ALL entering a world of pain.
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(extremely heavy sigh)...and I won't even get into the fact that '1984' did not take place in Russia. Oh, the pain...
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Space 1999
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an excellent sequel to TTM by Steven Baxter - well worth getting. What the hell happened to Jeremy Irons? He used to be an actor.
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Hell, what movie is perfect? I sure it'll be enjoyable, and I think the main reason to go to the movies is to be entetained, and not pick everything about the movie apart. Do some movies deserve to be torn to shreds? Sure, but this ain't one of them, hell a lot of movies arent worht the hugr debates. Just go and enjoy it, or don't see it at all, your choice.
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I got to see it also on Sunday, How did you like the screwup on autographs?
I have read, and been a 40 year
fan of the original Time Machine movie.
It was well done, I would be one
to tear it up if I didn't like it,
but I'm going a couple of more times to see again.
Yes it did seem to end real quick, but that means to me that the editing and story was kept
tight without wasting time (Simon
Wells did say that there is no need to waste time explaining time
travel etc. we all know the idea)
The second New York stop does
seem to quick, but they did take
the destruction scenes because
of 911,(hope they put back in on
DVD extras later).
The acting was good, not outstanding, Filby was not as warm as Pal's character but still
a good job being Alex's friend.
Mara (Weena counterpart)was good, warm but fearful,(I think
was the best actor of the cast).
Jeremy Irons was good but you didn't get enough of his part.
As for the effects in the film
are very good, I wish we could see more the travel effects. One
sequence I thought was interesting, the plants growing on his greenhouse, Pal's flowers
etc. in his film still look as good that part in the new film,
cgi couldn't do any better. but only that part, the rest was way
beyond Pal's, and that was expected.
These Morlocks are a lot more frightening than Pal's, but his scared the hell out of us then and these do now.
One closing point, with out giving away anything, one part I didn't like near the end, but it is part of the story (older fans might agree) No, they are not going to------. -
Feb 19, 2002 4:23:51 PM CST
interpolating an extraneous romance never fails to shove a stake
by zizzish
i'm a big fan of guy pierce, but this movie is doomed as soon as we find out he has a girlfriend who wasn't in the source material. not that the job of a movie is to replicate the experience of the book, but if there is no love in the original plot, adding it to the screenplay is always done hamhandedly and misdirects whatever was compelling about the source material in the first place - this is a physical law. as soon as the producers of "bram stoker's dracula" decided mina and dracula should love each other they were condemning the movie into just an excuse to see sadie frost naked. a noble cause, but not enough to justify the other 2 hours of the flic. i'm sure the girlfriend won't draw the female demo to TTM, against all the wishes of the exec whose script note got her in there in the first place. scientists are motivated by science - curiosity and the thrill of discovery. this can be compelling portrayed and capture an audience with awe. i'm sick of movies that use love like it's ketchup.
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So you want Mike Moorcock's Elric series, huh? Well, I guess that would certainly suit the suits - endless spinoffs into the rest of the Eternal Champion series. Just so long as it is accompanied by endless psychedelic rock from those hoary old gits from Hawkwind, eh?
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The original Planet of the Apes was faintly similar to Boulle's novel and it became one of the greatest sci-fi movies of all time. No one really complained that it wasn't like the book. Just accept it for what it is.
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Seriously, how the fuck can you operate a computer and not off yourself when you don't know the difference between Wells and Orwell? You gotta be tongue-fucking the outlet with synapses like that! It is not asking a lot to some PASSING acquaintance with English lit before spouting off with your opinions on art. If not let's go find a Bushman and find out if he prefers Porsche or Audi; iMac or ThinkPad; Britney or Christina. (correct answer: Audi, ThinkPad, and throat-fuck both, cum swap with tabs of acid.) That's culture.
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While I agree with some of your comments: ThinkPad shouldn't even be compared with the iMac. It oughta be ThinkPad v. Titanium PowerBook, and, in that case, it's PowerBook all the way, baby! ;). Esp. once I get my DVD-Rom drive upgraded to a combo CD-R/DVD-reader.
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One of my favorite movies....Definitely a good rent...Wonder if its on DVD...Gotta love how they did the Time travel part...
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Feb 19, 2002 11:57:06 PM CST
After 3 years... I've solved the theory on moron talkbackers
by kampbell-kid
I know this'll sound cliche, but after reading talkbacks on this site for a couple years. I've always wondered... "What would drive someone to post in a talkback with some failed attempt to sound like they know what they are actually talking about?" or "Are they confined to a novice learning curve or enviroment?" or in a silly sense I thought "Are they lacking the everyday needs - food, water, a real internet service provider?" My answer was under my nose all these years. After all this time I never thought to scan my mouse over the name of the talkbacker and see the email address. So I did on every talkback post that sounded sketchy, incorherent, trite, and unfactual. To my suprise... they were all @AOL.COM addresses. Nuff said! :) JK lol
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If your going to get the movie or book your going to get them from wherever you want anyway. So what if if he gets a kickback. The money's gotta come from somewhere. Don't you like to get paid for the work you do. Unless you don't get out of your mommas basement then I guess that statement doesn't apply to you.
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In 1895 Wells' book "The Time Machine" is released.
65 years later a dumbed down movie version is released. (It's fun, but definitely less thoughtful.)
107 years later a movie version is released that is much more dumbed down than the 1960 version.
The only thing that can give hope is that it probably isn't as bad as the really retarded 1978 TV adaptation. (BAD)
Part of the problem with the whole science fiction genre in movies is that there is no longer a real sense of wonder or new ideas, just a lor of recycling of things we've already seen. Thus we get a version of the Time Machine that sounds more like Planet of the Apes with cannabalism. Also now the Eloi and Morlocks all have to speak english so they can explain everything to audiences. (Even George Pal credited the audiences with SOME intelligence.)
Give yourself a treat and read the book:
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Saw it at a screening tonight in LA. It was over pretty quickly (only 96 minutes) but it definitely exceeded my (low) expectations and was in turns scary, suspenseful, ingenious, and even (gasp!) moving -- which I never expected. I read the book ages ago and saw the version with Rod Taylor and I have to say that the addition of a doomed love added a nice filter for the whole motivation thing. Could have been longer and if you're an action buff you may be disappointed. But compared to say, the stink that was the 'reimagined Planet of the Apes (nearly identical theme, really) this was an 'A' film. I give it a solid 'B' - worth a matinee at least, I think.
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Saw it at a screening tonight in LA. It was over pretty quickly (only 96 minutes) but it definitely exceeded my (low) expectations and was in turns scary, suspenseful, ingenious, and even (gasp!) moving -- which I never expected. I read the book ages ago and saw the version with Rod Taylor and I have to say that the addition of a doomed love added a nice filter for the whole motivation thing. Could have been longer and if you're an action buff you may be disappointed. But compared to say, the stink that was the 'reimagined Planet of the Apes (nearly identical theme, really) this was an 'A' film. I give it a solid 'B' - worth a matinee at least, I think.
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