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I am – Hercules!!

Finally, a bit of forward motion on the romantic front!

Clark tells Lex he’s decided to fight for Lana.

And there was nearly kissage.

And Lex is stalked by the help.

And Clark sees Victoria Hardwick naked.

I am – Hercules!!





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  • Jan. 29, 2002, 9:53 p.m. CST

    tsk tsk

    by Jenguin1

    I'm a west coaster too, but if you've been to this site as much as I have.. you know what to expect.. there's allllways some form of spoiler. If you dont want to be spoiled, then don't go to the site until after the show's been aired. :) Not attacking!! Just saying :) Anywho.. I'm really looking forward to this ep, it sounds 'shippy!!

  • Jan. 29, 2002, 10 p.m. CST

    Nearly kissage? OMG

    by It's A Duck

    Can we get Lana and Lex's girlfriend in some hotpants or what? At least there's going to be some (offscreen) nudity.

  • Jan. 29, 2002, 10:04 p.m. CST

    wow, jack and jane

    by johnboy612

    did any notice that the girl stole lex's watch is also the girl who played michael rosenbaums sister on his last wb show zoe,duncan,jake and jane

  • Jan. 29, 2002, 10:05 p.m. CST

    What happened to my posts?

    by yakitty_yak10

    Post 1: Deleted because it was a stupid 'I'm first?' ??? Post 2: Deleted because I swore? Because I complained about spoilers? ??? Censorship is not too cool. Thanks for the tips, Jenguin1. Not taken as an attack ... I should have know what I was in for ... but this site is much too sci-fi bent anyway. Why am i complaining about a geek site being too geeky. I don't know. I ramble sometimes ... Be warned ... there are mysterios censors at work here. Where are my first two posts &^%(%$)$#* !!!

  • Jan. 29, 2002, 10:06 p.m. CST

    well, well, wellllll......

    by TheGr81SLASH

    pretty good ep tonight, but am intrigued by next week's ep. Lex with a machine gun, Kents sell the farm, ect. Liked the Cadmus mention in here, but Clark should have gone for that kiss, I would have.

  • Jan. 29, 2002, 10:09 p.m. CST

    swearing ...

    by yakitty_yak10

    It can't be because i swore ... that guy's name is gellar's ass for god's sake!

  • Jan. 29, 2002, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Next Week's Ep

    by bludvls

    Could we have had a glimpse of Bizarro Smallville?

  • Jan. 29, 2002, 10:13 p.m. CST

    KICKED MY ASS

    by imacoolfoo

    Damn that was good... DAMN THAT WAS GOOD. And the preview for next week... SHIT YEAH.

  • Jan. 29, 2002, 10:20 p.m. CST

    SPOILER WARNING

    by Grail42

    for those that do not know, the reason for lex with a machine gun, sale of the farm, etc is... SPOILER A man with a Kryptonite induced power of suggestion gets everyone to do what he says END SPOILER that is all

  • Jan. 29, 2002, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Another great episode and they didn't mention(Did the green

    by Monkey_King

    The 'Goody Goody' Clark/Dawson Leary thing they got going is gaining momentum. Next weeks episode looks like a great 'dream sequence' that either Clark or his dad have. Could be a cool Twilight Zone-ish episode. The Brit-wannabe who's playing Victoria Hardwick is quite the hottie. Wonder how long they plan to keep her 'playing chess' with Lex. Chloe needs to throw herself at Clark already and stop coaching him on the whole Lana thing. Maybe then they'll show Lana get jealous(Oops! Did I spoil another upcoming plot?)of Clark. Oh well. Great things are ahead for this show.

  • Jan. 29, 2002, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Go Clark

    by CaptNemo

    First, Clark needs to just get it on with Lana. Next previews are always edited to look like something else is happening so don't believe what they show you.

  • Jan. 29, 2002, 10:29 p.m. CST

    What a good show

    by Cincy Vigilante

    This was better than Buffy tonight. I love the way Lex is done on this show. He is a complex character and not just a "bad guy". I actually want Clark to befriend him. What I don't like is Flash like running all the time. They should go ahead and have him fly. I also hope they don't paint themselves in to a corner with the Lana thing. If they play it out to long it will get tired but if they hook them up then you run the risk of going down the same path as moonlighting and cheers.

  • Jan. 29, 2002, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Smallville

    by DyslexicHeart

    Now that "Roswell" is dead and "Buffy" dying, I am glad to see this show continue to get better. Tonight's ep was strong, and could've been better had the stalkin/invisible plot been erased. There was plenty of action going on elsewhere to fill the entire episode. I really like the potential of a Chloe/Clark/Lana love triangle. And more of papa Lex would be nice,too. How about a "Lex's father gets in a sking accident and has to stay with his son in Smallville to recoup" storyline. Papa Lex can find out the truth behind Clark's powers before Lex does and use it against him. The possibilities are endless. I hope "Birds of Prey" turns out well, too.

  • Jan. 29, 2002, 11:05 p.m. CST

    Yea clark!

    by Zitoman

    Clark lookin for action and then playin the stand up guy. He's winning the brownie points. _________________ When Buffy ends you think they'll hire some of those writters for smallville? Smallville could use less dramatic conversation everytime clark and lana are on screen together. levit is not forbiden in a high schoolers conversation with a girl.

  • Jan. 30, 2002, midnight CST

    It's getting better, BUT....

    by thecomedian

    I think this show still needs a better writing staff. For a show that's supposed to be this innovative daring new take on Superman we're still stuck with the classic "Clark almost kisses her but ends up punking out" bit that Chris Reeve & Dean Cain did wiht their respective Lois' till the proverbial "I'm really Superman and you never figured it out because you could see passed a stupid pair of glasses" scene. But in Smallville Clark doesn't have that problem or(rather excuse) to not get some pun-pun or at least just swap some spit. The best direction they could go with this would be if Clark by seasons end told Lana everything(like the comics). That would give them the cheesy clandestine romance spin they've been trying to do with these two characters. Because Lana would become the only person outside of his folks that he could trust with his secret. Plus the whole "oops I'm sorry I inadvertly killed your parents" bit would give it just the right amount of dramatic tension. They've got this lame Whitney plot going on and they're trying to creep in this half assed Clark/Lana/Chloe triangle and it all just reeks of bad writing. I guess they're trying to rip off Dawson's Creek to impress the suits at the network. But I think that's pretty frivilous since that show is like 3 years passed it's peak. Either way, it's only season one so I think this show will find it's grove eventually. ***Cormorant, if you're out there now would be a good time to debunk Sleazy G customary Smallville bitchfests. And to the person that mentioned Zoe, Duncan, Jack and Jane; I too thought it was goofy and kind of creepy that the chick who played Rosenbaum's twin sister on that show ended up playing Luthor's stalker on Smallville. What other WB rejects should we expect in future episodes. Back on the Dawson/Joey/Blond girl...I mean Clark/Lana/Chloe triangle; It would really be funny if Chloe and Lana end up both pinning for Clark but never admitting it and then "teen Lois" shows up and trumps them both. "I'm a hot brunnette AND a pain in the ass wannabe journalist".

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 12:21 a.m. CST

    Kick ass!!

    by Kryptoboner

    Smallville gets better and better. Lana Lang is SMOKIN', Lex Luthor is my role model, and Clark, although a bit pussy-like for not kissing on his crush, is still the ultimate protagonist. What is next? Also, I know is this is a little Mallrats-esque, but if Clark ever does bang Lana, will he, indeed, use the Kryptonite Condom? If so, thats a Smallville you definitely don't want to miss. The title may need to be altered a bit; Smallville may make Clark feel a little self concious, if you know what I mean.

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 1:13 a.m. CST

    Nah.. Bad Idea w/ the Clark/Lana... gotta play the Mulder/Scully

    by AlphaAlfa

    gotta keep em apart fer a bit... do a mulder/scully fer about 2 seasons where they dance around each other... in the meantime Clark can goto work on Chloe you know as filler.. then bring in the Clark/Lana.. If the producers decide to give in and get them together by the end of season one I can just tell they'll have zero relationship and character stuff to write about in season 2...

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 2:19 a.m. CST

    yup, I noticed there was no Krypto chunks around, but.....

    by TheGr81SLASH

    the green rose was clearly a dead giveaway. I knew when I saw it, just thought the rose itself, NOT the oils in it, gave up power. Thank god KingKrypto and Sleazy G aren't here doing their one trick pony act of crying how The Tick got canned while Smallville is still on. Get lives, you two (or a room, if you swing that way). This show is getting better, while everything else sucks. AND Herc, please spare us the "Roswell is better than Smallville" crap. Just let someone who likes this show write about it, please.

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 2:25 a.m. CST

    o, and By The By.......

    by TheGr81SLASH

    Does anyone know where I can get all the eps (so far) on tape? Serious inquiries only.

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Writing could be better

    by Bored Man

    I totally agree with whoever said the writing in this show should be a little better. Don't get me wrong I love the show. I think the Clark just barely misses the girl/nell walks in on kiss/ whitney's dad is sick thing is poor poor writing. Why is whitney even around? He has a line or two, and ends up hugging Lana while Clark watches from his telescope. Whats the point of him? Hes not a terribly good actor. Hes not an intregal part of the show. Clark and Lana conect on so much and are obviously interested in one another, I simply don't see the need for this kind of character. Everything else ont his show seems to be great, I hope they wise up. Good show though.

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 5:09 a.m. CST

    Thanks

    by darkguyver

    Thanks johnboy. I've been trying all night to figure out where I knew amy from>

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 5:24 a.m. CST

    HEY I NEED the link for the 1x09 episode talkback

    by Diplan

    hey i need the link to the "rougue" talback. and yes, Nicole Kidman should had been nominated!!

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 5:59 a.m. CST

    I retract my Brit-wannabe statement about Victoria Hardwick(Kell

    by Monkey_King

    This hottie is the real deal from what I've discovered and she's done nude work as well. Yum!

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 7:33 a.m. CST

    Potential.....

    by Kubla_Khan

    Everybody seems to be missing the long-term potential of this show. If it gains yet more momentum and continues to get better, then Smallville is going to mutate into a really broad, superior look at how Clark Kent tuens into the costume-clad red underpants wearer we all know. I wouldn't be surprised to see this show turn into Metropolis before long, and then give way to a new series of movies in 8-10 years. The kid that plays Clark can cut it. Plus, perhaps more importantly, the guy that plays Lex can cut it. Anyway, I'm going to get a kick out of it turning more adult and watching CK learn to fly, use those laserbeams, and perhaps most importantly, learn just how he arrives at the decision that wearing bright red underpants outside your suit is a good idea. He's drunk, right? And what would happen if Clark started experimenting with narcotics? That's something I'd like to see...."Fuck off with your issues Lana...get your tits out!" Ratings through the roof, I'm telling you. I warn you not to agree with me...

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 9:33 a.m. CST

    I like Smallville

    by Silver_Joo

    It has a black guy who is more than just token, and it has a lead who manages not to be annoying and Dawson-esque. I think the women in it are attractive, yet utilised. I wish Clark could get with Chloe, she is the reporter type we know he will be down with later, so why not start early. She is slightly more interesting than Lana, and I would say the finer of the two. Hoo hah.

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Monkey_King

    by Silver_Joo

    The girl who plays Hardwick is certainly British. She moved to the USA, because, although we all find her attractive, we find her incredibly dense. She could not read auto-cues, which was, erm, amusing. Check out some of the dresses she has worn for awards evenings, they are quite impressive. She is certainly more engaging to look at, than to talk to I would imagine.

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Shattered dreams and little imps?

    by Juggernaut125

    Loved last night's episode. All of the ones with papa Luthor going toe to toe with junior kick ass. (Show should be called Lex and just use Clark as a peripheral character.) Ummm. Don't you think Lex is gonna find it odd that a solid steel Morningstar ball seemingly shattered to pieces on his floor doing no major damage to the area around it? Personally, I would have loved to see him actually catch with his super-quick reflexes. And the "That's a freaky-good memory you have there." was a great line. When the show started I was excited about the prospects of watching a teenage Clark discover his powers and his alien heritage. Now, I'm looking forward to the catalyst that turns Lex from the do-gooder humanitarian philanthropist to the tyrannical business genius Lord of Metropolis. And finally, as for next week. Wouldn't it be cool if it were the arrival of a little imp named mxlpls... myxops... umm... myzanol... a little imp from the sixth dimension.

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Smallville Is Coming Along Nicely

    by The Founder

    Well at least to me anyway. I just don't see how anyone could hate this show, but to eaches(is this a word) own I suppose. I like the mention of Cadmus, and it offers some potential cool plot lines if done right, and they can pull away from that krypto mutie thing with Dadmus around. I just hope they keep Cadmus like in the comics, because if I'm not mistaken isn't Cadmus a govenment facility? Well I see potential in the show to get better, and WB don't hire any of the writters from Roswell since it's getting canned, but I wouldn't mind if you guys picked up some of the X-files writters, because it's going off too, hell that'll be genius.

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 11:34 a.m. CST

    A WELL DONE EPISODE...

    by Weasel

    ...even though it was kind of sneaky. The writers actually gave us another "kryptonite monster of the week" episode but tricked out with enough good character moments to make it wonderfully palatable. The whole Lex/Clark dynamic just gets better and better as their friendship grows and I love the fact that Chloe (last week)finally 'fessed up to having feelings about Clark that extend way beyond friendship. This should prove interesting as the series progresses. I disagree with my fellow geeks who say that Clark should have gone with kissing Lana when he had that glorious opportunity to do so. No way. Understand one thing, my brothers: it isn't x-ray vision or invulnerability or super-speed that makes Superman super - his true superiority, the thing that indeed makes him The Superman, is his inhuman capacity for self-sacrifice and his unerring ability to tell right from wrong. Just check out that marvelous last scene where Lana and Whitney reconcile while a devastated Clark has to live with the consequences of having done the right thing. It's sadly ironic that though his flesh may be impenetrable, his heart is not. I'm very excited about this series; it's potential is enormous. Done correctly (the continued skill of this ensemble of fine young actors coupled with equally skillfull writers who know and love the Superman mythos)this series has at least another five or six seasons in it - that is if they don't try to keep their characters callow teenagers forever(a la Buffy the Vampire Slayer)and continually trapped in their kryptonite-infested Smalltown. As others have mentioned, the Smallville High thing has a limited shelf-life and you might be able to get away with two seasons of that before it's time to move the characters to the big city and change the name of the series to "Metropolis." I only hope the writers and producers have the wisdom to see this. "Smallville" is the kind of series that should be plotted out as one huge, story arc that continues across five or six seasons. Like the old "Babylon 5" series, it should have a definite beginning and a definite end (so that when it gets to season 3 or 4 it doesn't lose its way and start meandering into irrelevant storylines). This is a fantastic story, guys, a tale of two friends, as close as brothers, who pursued their individual destinies and became bitter enemies forever. Here's hoping the powers-that-be have the heart and skill to do justice to this epic greek tragedy disguised as a comic book.

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 1 p.m. CST

    Well, he wasn't a mutant...

    by BurninBullwinkle

    just a chemistry geek, I guess. But still... coupled with next weeks spoiler, they don't seem to be in a big hurry to get out of the krypto-mutant mold. The rogue cop story was a good shot in the arm, though. Let's see; episode comments: Has Pete had more than two lines in the last two episodes? "That is whack!" Chloe is so cool. I find it hilarious that he's only friends with her yet will eventually wind up Lois' love-puppy. The very definition of irony. Lex keeps getting better and better. As far as the chick from Z,D,J&J goes, how old is she? She actually seemed younger than the regular cast. Creepy. All in all another entertaining episode. To the dude that wants the episodes, I've got the ten aired so far and could make you a copy, but I'm warning you, it'll look pretty bad. Up up and away!

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Wow. Very good eps this week...

    by Smugbug

    I actually had both eps on this week as I worked and usually the TV is on as a background "noise" while I sketch away at my drawing table. But these two eps actually distracted me enough I had to sit and watch 'em. I love the relationship between Clark and his parents. And his parents are played to perfection - wow, who knew Bo (John Schneider) could act so well?! And Lex. Great, great character. While Spike on Buffy has proven to be one the most complex characters on TV, Lex is right on his heels. Wow. And yeah, I think Clark should be w/Chloe. She's much more interesting. Kudos to the creaters of this show and to all involved. Wow (again).

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 2:55 p.m. CST

    First episode that I've watched all the way through...

    by BigW

    And it was pretty good. I like Lex. Quite a lot. Especially that he is not really evil...at least not yet. And that he is smarter than Clark. Excellent casting all around.

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 4:06 p.m. CST

    smacks of Buffy, season 1

    by Mr. Watson

    Anyone notice how the intro was identical to the intro in ep. "out of sight, out of mind"? right down to the locker room scene... "let's see, substitute weights for bat.. that should do it" And the reason he became invisible was because no one noticed him... probably shouldn't be ripping off buffy just as season 1 is released. pretty lame

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Maybe Clark will start stalking Lex now.

    by superninja

    I swear, some of the looks those two exchange, I'm not sure whereth the chemistry lie... This episode was much better in terms of character development than most that I've seen. Seriously, I am trying to like the show, but Tom Welling creeps me out. Maybe it's just the heavy makeup covering his five-o-clock shadow. Or is it the way you can hear the cogs clicking as he blinks his eyes? That Rosenbaum is sure smokin' though. And I thought the effects were handled pretty well, particularly the bathtub scene.

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 5:50 p.m. CST

    They want you to like Chloe...because she's going to D-I-E.

    by superninja

    Everyone knows Lois ends up with Clark in the end. There is only room for one nosy reporter in Superman's life. Chloe will bite the dust after they pull a Scully and she reveals she loves him.

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 6:39 p.m. CST

    what if...

    by wackedfuck

    Here's a cool idea. Lex is interviewing someone for the first time in his life. The interviewee is skilled in chemistry, has a strong interest in comedy, and a criminal record. Oh, and he carrys a deck of cards in his back pocket. He's rather be a comedian, but he figures that working at Lexcorp using his knowledge of chemistry could help make him some good money while he tries to get into the comedy act. What do you think?

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Lois here already?

    by Salieri

    Anyone notice that 'Chloe S' is a bit similar to 'Lois'? Let's face it, we know Clark and Lana can't get it together because Clark goes off with Lois eventually. So either (to prevent people getting pissed off) Lois shows up at the end and Clark goes off with her, or Chloe turns up one day, dyes her hair and says "I'm going to write under a pseudonym from now on" and reveals that Lois Lane has been on the show all along...

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Aren't their rumors that Chloe already knows or is related t

    by superninja

    Hmm. I wish this show was about Lex, actually.

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 8:17 p.m. CST

    HMMMM...

    by Weasel

    ...I'm glad Superninja brought the subject up. I actually thought I was imagining things, but I have to admit there are moments when Lex looks at Clark as if he wants to eat him up with a spoon. For some reason I find it especially creepy when Lex starts talking up Clark to Lana. On the surface it appears that he's trying to hook up his young friend with the woman he yearns for, yet you get the feeling that somewhere in the dank sub-basement of his fevered mind, Lex is imagining himself and Clark, sans clothing, greased up like pigs and sliding around on a rubber sheet in the master bedroom of Luthor Manor. Lordy, I hope I'm wrong about this...

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 8:22 p.m. CST

    I wasn't taking it THAT far, Weasel.

    by superninja

    I'm just wondering what exactly Rosenbaum's actorly motivation is in the scene. He looks at Clark like the Big Bad Wolf would at Little Red Riding Hood. But they're supposed to be pals and all. I sense that maybe he's trying to do foreshadowing, but it's kind of discomforting.

  • Jan. 30, 2002, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Somebody mentioned that the first talkback...

    by BurninBullwinkle

    I remember because I felt really dense for not noticing it. I believe the person that I can't remember right now wrote it like this: chLOE SulLivAN (say it together and fast)

  • Jan. 31, 2002, 1:47 a.m. CST

    Odds, Ends & Allison Mack, Geek America's New Sweetheart....

    by thecomedian

    First, ***Wackedfuck, having the Joker-to-be show up would be great but they're already having a time trying to get the suits to get a Bruce Wayne cameo next season. Plus, most of the "target audience" doesn't know the Alan Moore origin so they probably wouldn't get the joke. Unless of course they have him subtly wearing purple all the time like they've got Clark wearing blue and red all the time(what is this Power Rangers?). Eitherway, I don't want this show to turn into "Jim Henson's DC Comics Babies" as one talkbacker once put it. ***Second, there is definately some creepy ass Chuck & Buck shit going on with Lex and Clark since the mouth to mouth scene in the pilot. Wizard even made fun of it in one of their cheesy word bubble bits. I don't think it's intentional. I think Mike Rosenbaum and Tom Welling are just doing the scenes and it just come off that way ambigously. Lex is obsessed with Clark more so just because he's an interesting little puzzle for him to figure out. But since these are two attractive young men on the screen it's pretty easy to automatically think that Luthor's trying to get his gay on. The bald thing doesn't help him either. ***Superninja, finally somebody else agrees with me that Chloe is SOOOOOO headed for the dirtnap. I love Allison Mack. She's supercute and one of the main reason I watch this show. But the fact of the matter is that her character is pretty useless in the grand scheme of the show. And Millar & Gough said in an interview that Clark won't really want to become a journalist at first but Chloe will "inspire" him. They're so gonna kill her off to make him feel guilty and clear the way for everyone's favorite skyscraper diving career girl. "Superman, help!". Jeez give it a rest, lady. They just lucked out(or fucked up depending how you look at it) by casting a more talented, and likable actress than their lead romantic interest(Kristen Kreug, the space monkey). Personally, I think Allison Mack would make a great U-GO-GIRL on an X-Force show produced for MTV. Get it, a show based on a comic that's satirizing that network and everything that it stands for. Avi Arad if you're out there you can have that one as long as you let me direct an episode, give me a BMW R-1200 motorcycle with ape bars, Victoria Pratt's phone # and that cheesy life sized replica of Iron Man's armor from that crappy ass Marvel restaurant. I'm not much for Purdy shotguns & Cuban cigars like one of my distinguished colleagues.

  • Jan. 31, 2002, 7:35 a.m. CST

    This Show Is SO Not For Geeks

    by EricAlan69

    Please- those of us who fucking despise Superman actually like the show, we like Kristin Kreuk, like Allison Mack, and really like Michael Rosenbaum....don't fuck this show up with insane sub-plots featuring the origin of the the guys who was the flying hedgehog in Issue #452, but was ACTUALLY the chick with the anal powers in #412, who was born on Zudnck, planet of flaming Grpzxsa's. Oh, no. Please, don't got there. // e.

  • Jan. 31, 2002, 9:48 a.m. CST

    A little off topic, but oh Sweet Baby!

    by Led Gopher

    I now know what I want to do with my life, I want to work as a casting agent for the WB. Where in God's name do they find the women for their programs? These gals are gorgeous! That's all I can say, that and... well lots of X-rated things that I'll spare you the hassles of reading. Led Gopher has lusted!

  • Jan. 31, 2002, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Smallville is a great show

    by Stasaluck

    This episode was cool, I would have lost the glowing room thing because that wasn't part of invisible boy's powers but all in all I will give this episode an 8 out of 10. This is off the topic but, I heard that Bruce Wayne is going to be on a guest appearance on the show, it could be rumor, but, if it's true why don't you put him in 5 or 6 episodes so he could spin off into his own series and turn the then dead tv series "Bruce Wayne" back to life. Anyway it was just a thought. Great show.

  • Jan. 31, 2002, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Geeks in Denial....

    by thecomedian

    Ericalan69, this show is SOOOOOOO for geeks AND cool guys like you. They're constantly shoeing in references and characters from the comics under your nose and over your head. I'm not trying to pick on you in particular. But, I just love all these people coming on talkback with this whole "hhurm, I hate Superman and comics books are for geeks but I LOVE Smallville" schtick. You guys are like straight people who listen to Erasure and Depeche Mode or Sober, Straight Edge Deadheads who hate the music and the drugs but love hanging out in the parking lot playing hackeysack and buying trinkets. Truth of the matter is this show's popularity is mostly because it's a Superman show. If this show was on the air with the same talent and general plotline but no Supes it wouldn't have half the ratings. The WB had a show like that for two years and it's raging teeny bopper fanbase wasn't enough to save it from lackluster ratings. They even tried to court the geek audience by making the second season of that show more sci-fi and less "Dawson from Outerspace" to no avail. Enter Millar & Gough, with their brilliant idea of taking Roswell and grafting Superman onto it(And I'm not being sarcastic about it I think these guys did an excellent job of building the better mouse trap). You see Superman is a brandname that everyone knows and anything associated with it will always get press and ratings from geeks, norms and you guys who are just too cool for school. That piece of crap Lois & Clark got great ratings for it's first two seasons till the network got sick of it and deliberately started sabatoging it. Superman sells. And you all know that deep down you're watching a Superman show so get over it.

  • Jan. 31, 2002, 5:01 p.m. CST

    I Agree!

    by georgiabama

    I was thinking that too about the Buffy similarities!

  • Jan. 31, 2002, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Sleazy_G

    by superninja

    I gotta agree with most of your opinions of Smallville initially, as they were my own. However, I am too damn captivated by the Rosenbaum Lex to stop watching the show. This last episode at least has Superman starting to be a free-thinking good guy. He made a choice helping another person that was premeditated, instead of leaving Lana hanging at the last minute because someone was getting their fat sucked out, or whatever. But Clark is still as dumb as a doornail. Wolves like to run with other wolves, not fluffy little bunnies like Clark. They eat fluffy little bunnies for breakfast. Luthor is wrapped up in trouble, it's so obvious from his relationship with his father to his new girlfriend and their game of "Chess." The guy is dangerous, and he enjoys it. I don't mind Clark being a little naive, but he doesn't seem to suspect that Luthor is capable of any serious malcontent at all.

  • Jan. 31, 2002, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Malice, not malcontent.

    by superninja

    You get the idea. But the sad part about Smallville is that I like Lex a lot more than Clark. And I was kind of hoping that Clark would be the one to teach people something, the idea that it's not impossible for someone to just be inherently good. That doesn't make for good television, I guess.

  • Jan. 31, 2002, 8:07 p.m. CST

    When is Clark gonna start reporting?

    by PrfssrOblivion

    I keep waiting for Clark to help Cloe out with a story for the school newspaper... guy has to start reporting sometime, right? A little investigative reporting might be a good way to dvelope Clarks character so he is less naive and, well... dense. Superman has never been the brightest bulb in the Justice League, but he isn't stupid.

  • Jan. 31, 2002, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Glowing room was just a black light <nt>

    by PrfssrOblivion

  • Jan. 31, 2002, 10:26 p.m. CST

    Wait a minute...I like Smallville AND Pet Shop Boys, and I&#39;m

    by Village Idiot

    No wait, despite my admiration for Tom Welling, I&#39;m not gay: I don&#39;t know enough about wine. And no matter how gay my musical tastes may run, I absolutely draw the line at Bronski Beat. Period.*******I like Smallville (begrudgingly, really), I still have my gripes about it. For instance, didn&#39;t everybody seem a little too blase about the fact that WE&#39;RE DEALING WITH AN INVISIBLE MAN HERE PEOPLE! INVISIBLE! I mean, this is pretty mindblowing stuff, and yet nobody&#39;s mind seems very blown. Granted, they&#39;ve had to deal with freaky stuff already, but surely they haven&#39;t become so calloused that INVISIBLE PAINT doesn&#39;t cause them to rethink the nature of reality.*******And that song "Go West" is really great stuff. I&#39;m telling you, the Pet Shop Boys ROCK!

  • Jan. 31, 2002, 11:30 p.m. CST

    Village Idiot

    by superninja

    I would&#39;ve it rather been a ghost. Of course, Clark can&#39;t punch a supernatural being into the wall as well as he can an ordinary person, who has a knowledge of chemistry, who is working as a servant in Lex&#39;s household *eyes rolling* can he? This show is pretty stupid. But the fact is the guy that is the villain makes it interesting. Doesn&#39;t that just fit with the evolution of superheroes?

  • Feb. 1, 2002, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Lex&#39;s new squeeze... link to pics

    by PrfssrOblivion

    Many pics, including a really tacky awards show evening gown/swimsuit (you decide) http://www.kellybrookonline.co.uk/

  • Feb. 1, 2002, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Is Chloe a nickname for Lois?

    by Oknight

    Snoopy reporter... Clark&#39;s best friend... Is Chloe a nickname for "Lois"? Of course there shouldn&#39;t be a "Lois" in Smallville (as opposed to Lex?) And she&#39;s Blond, not Brunette (like Lana?) Hmmmmm.

  • Feb. 1, 2002, 1 a.m. CST

    SleazyG: an apology.......

    by TheGr81SLASH

    My comments were out of line. At least you watch the show and bring up valid points on where the show can improve, but I think it is still great. The comments were directed at the other cheeky fellow, who bemoans Smallville week after week and NEVER watches it. He&#39;ll constantly sing the praises of the The Tick, which I&#39;ll admit (embarassingly) I&#39;ve watched two eps. (first and last) and thought sucked. As for the room scene in this week&#39;s ep, I thought of the scene from Poltergeist where Caroline&#39;s mom tells her to go to the lights. Half expecting to see a TV with static somewhere in Lex&#39;s mansion.

  • Feb. 1, 2002, 8:27 a.m. CST

    I knew it

    by wackedfuck

    I&#39;m not surprised that the The Tick was cancelled. I had refused to watch it when it was on for it&#39;s rather brief period. I just couldn&#39;t see how you could present a character like The Tick in live action. He would only work in animation and,in fact,we already have proof of that. I loved The Tick cartoon. Hail The Tick cartoon! Who&#39;s with me on this.

  • Feb. 1, 2002, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Enough Already!

    by wackedfuck

    Bitch,bitch,bitch. I can&#39;t believe so many of you are making such a big deal about the light coming through the door. It didn&#39;t bother me in the least. I personally thought it added to the suspense of the sitiuation. Okay, given that the character wasn&#39;t a ghost, it really didn&#39;t make much sense, but, hey, it&#39;s called suspension of disbeleif, so it&#39;s really not that big a deal.

  • Feb. 1, 2002, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Superman through the Ages

    by Spoons

    The Chicago Tribune recently did an interesting piece describing many of the very drastic changes that have been done to the Superman character over the years. Some of you here might find it interesting in light of all the hand-wringing that goes on over the liberties supposedly taken with the character on Smallville. You can find the story at http://chicagotribune.com/ features/chi-0201270404 jan27.story? coll=chi% 2Dhomepageleisure%2Dutl. Just take out all of the spaces in the link -- I put them there to avoid screwing up the formatting on this talkback.

  • Feb. 1, 2002, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Huh?

    by wackedfuck

    Losthighway. Please reprhase your last sentence. It made absolutely no sense to me. That&#39;s right, bad dialouge bothers me more than anything else.

  • Feb. 1, 2002, 5:59 p.m. CST

    No Villians!

    by wackedfuck

    So many of these talkbacks are filled with such anger. Even mine was. I blame this on the writers of the show. Maybe it&#39;s time we stopped seeing so many stock villians. Maybe even no villians at all. Come on, if these writers are really smart, they can write a show in which Clark doesn&#39;t always have to save the day, and still keep it successful using keep plotting and characterization. And if this isn&#39;t the way to go, there has to be something else they can do to help stop pissing everyone off. Anyone around here have any suggestions.

  • Feb. 1, 2002, 6:01 p.m. CST

    No Villians!

    by wackedfuck

    So many of these talkbacks are filled with such anger. Even mine was. I blame this on the writers of the show. Maybe it&#39;s time we stopped seeing so many stock villians. Maybe even no villians at all. Come on, if these writers are really smart, they can write a show in which Clark doesn&#39;t always have to save the day, and still keep it successful using good plotting and characterization. And if this isn&#39;t the way to go, there has to be something else they can do to help stop pissing everyone off. Anyone around here have any suggestions.

  • Feb. 1, 2002, 6:02 p.m. CST

    "Runaway, runaway, runaway, runaway (ride little cowboy ride)."

    by Village Idiot

    Wow Sleazy, you&#39;re the first person I ever met who likes Bronski Beat. Or at least admits they like Bronski Beat. But my line holds firm: No Bronski Beat for this Village. Sure, you can listen to a few songs, dance a little, but the next thing you know, you&#39;re wearing a cap that says "BOY" across the front and blowing a whistle. Nobody wants to see that. The problem isn&#39;t so much that you&#39;d be gay, it&#39;d be that you&#39;re hopeless stuck in eighties gay culture.*******SPOONS, YOU RULE! You rule for being the first person to post a link and break it up so it doesn&#39;t ruin the talkback. Granted, the only people left posting are the usual stragglers (Retinas), but the gesture was a great mix of cleverness and consideration.*******"Go West" was originally by the Village People? The version I&#39;m referrring to has some kind of men&#39;s chorus singing in the background, but make no mistake, for better or worse it is the Pet Shop Boys. "GO WEST!"

  • Feb. 1, 2002, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Went to far.

    by wackedfuck

    Losthighway. Boy, I&#39;m just pissing you off, aren&#39;t I. I suppose this could have been avoided if I hadn&#39;t gotten so pissed off at everyone&#39;s opion of a single scene. It&#39;s just that it didn&#39;t bother like it did everyone else. Still, I don&#39;t appreciate being called a fuckrag.

  • Feb. 1, 2002, 10:43 p.m. CST

    WOW.....

    by TheGr81SLASH

    This talkback went from Smallville and that room in Lex&#39;s mansion to gay 80s musical history? Personally (off-topic, of course), I like Eurythmics, Yaz, New Order, and Erasure and the last time I checked, I still get hard for the women. Just adding my two cents.

  • Feb. 2, 2002, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Altogther now: WE&#39;RE HERE! WE HAVE QUEER TENDENCIES BUT ARE

    by Village Idiot

    Wow, I didn&#39;t know House came from Chicago. I always thought it came from Europe. I remember reading about the whole smiley face phenomenon in Time magazine many many years ago, but obviously I didn&#39;t read it that closely. I wouldn&#39;t want Chicago to go without it&#39;s due. Unfortunately the only modern pop culture honor my hometown of San Diego can lay claim to is the dubious distinction of being the methyl-amphetamine captital for years running back in the 90s. We take acclaim where we can get it.*******To try and get this thread back on topic, albeit oblquely, if one were to read the original Silver Age story of how Lex and Superboy became enemies, it can be deconstructed as a parable of frustrated homosexual love. I&#39;m not kidding. If you don&#39;t believe me, go to the site "Superman Through The Ages" (the site shares the same name as the article linked to by Spoons), and the site has a reprint of the comic online.*******In the story, Lex is a teenager who idolizes Superboy; so much so, he keeps a room in his house devoted to him. He loves him. Superboy actually meets Lex&#39;s and ends up saving his life in a tractor accident and the two become fast friends, with Superboy building Lex a lab to work on his experiments. But ultimately, Superboy rejects Lex. In fact he delivers the ultimate rejection for an adolescent boy: he de-sexualizes him. Lex is working on an experiment to create organic life when an accidental fire breaks out. Superboy swoops in an blows the fire out, and in so doing, ruins Lex&#39;s experiment beyond rediscovery and causes the chemicals to make Lex bald. The metaphor is clear: Superboy desexualizes Lex by eliminating his ability to "create life," i.e., sexual reproduction, and balding him, i.e., premature aging and impotence. In the face of this intense repudiation by Superboy, Lex&#39;s love turns to hate, which results in the rampage which is now legend.******Now add the fact that in Eliot S! Maggin&#39;s extrapolations of Superman&#39;s future, after Lois dies, Superman and Lex travel the universe together, just the two of them. Things sound...fishy.

  • Feb. 2, 2002, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Important Note:

    by Village Idiot

    The above deconstruction about Superman and Lex Luthor in the Silver Age was created for the purposes of satire. Although the interpretation fits, I do not honestly believe that this was the intention of the writers, consciously, unconsciously, or otherwise.

  • Feb. 3, 2002, 1:52 a.m. CST

    Why is everyone so sure about their predictions?

    by BrashHulk

    I&#39;m hearing a lot of "Oh, we know that he&#39;ll never be with Lana because he never did in the comics. We all know that he&#39;s destined to be with Lois after he gets to Metropolis." And there&#39;s also the "Oh, he can&#39;t have a romance with Chloe because Lana was always his unrequited first love and he went straight from making goo-goo eyes at her to falling for Lois." You guys better set that alarm clock and wake up. The writers have firmly established that this is a RE-IMAGINING (damn Tim Burton for making that phrase so ubiquitous) of the Superboy mythos and there aren&#39;t going to be that many sacred cows. Check out these minor and major deviations from the SuperBible (no, not the Byrne crap - the REAL origin) so far: Pete Ross is no longer a honky; Chloe is a completely new character; A meteor shower rips into and winds up poisoning large portions of Smallville; Lex Luthor is the indulged brat of a billionaire industrialist; Clark was (albeit briefly) on the football team; No heart attack for Jonathon Kent; No contact from Kal&#39;s Kryptonian parents.... and the list goes on. The writers are serving notice that they will do anything they feel is engrossing and entertaining, so buckle your chinstraps, girls, it&#39;s gonna be a fun (and re-imagined) ride!

  • Feb. 3, 2002, 3:24 a.m. CST

    You can find something gay in pretty much any male superhero.

    by superninja

    They dress up in tights, but Mr. Johnson is nowhere in sight. They have little boys as sidekicks. They have women who wear nearly nothing around them all the time, but they&#39;re not trying to get any play. And again, Mr. Johnson is nowhere in sight. Wouldn&#39;t it be nice, just for once, to see Superman get a stiffy standing next to Wonder Woman? Hehehhe...

  • Feb. 3, 2002, 3:40 a.m. CST

    Good points, but...

    by wackedfuck

    I agree with you in almost everything, except for the part about Jonathan Kent. This is still a fairly new show, so he might eventually have a heart attack.