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Viggo Mortensen as MADMAN'
Hey folks, Harry here... Has Robert Rodriguez entered into discussions with Viggo Mortensen for the role of MADMAN based on the genius comic? Is this Rodriguez's follow up project to SPY KIDS 2 and ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO? When the hell would he shoot it? Robert is a lightning fast developer and turn around man, but frankly as soon as all footage for SPY KIDS 2 is wrapped he has to do post on that and ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO. SK2 is hitting that first weekend of August. No date has been nailed for OUATIM due to SK2's firm date. So, that should hit sometime in the fall/holiday season. I imagine post on both will be done by late summer at the latest. Which means Robert may very well be doing prep work on his next film.
Will it be MADMAN? Is the French version of PEOPLE magazine crazy? We'll see I suppose. Robert had no less than about 4 projects he was juggling for next inclusion in the Rodriguez filmography. Having Viggo in Austin would rule!
Hello, Harry
This is a it of news you might already have, but here you go anyway...
The French version of "People" magazine, "Voici", ran a tiny article saying that Viggo Mortensen had been cast as Madman in the upcoming film version. That's about all I've got to say really, keep up the good work.
Cheers, Vibroboy
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There must be A BOMB IN MY RIBCAGE then... Oh yeah, and Voggo ruled in LORT!!!
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Well, beneath make-up anyone could BE Madman. Its the physical and characteristical countenace that counts. Go Viggo!
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SWEET.
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Excuse my ignornace, but what is madman about?
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When I first read the headline to the story, I honestly thought they were remaking that 1981 horror flick- you know, 'Madman Marz' and whatnot..... So, having guessed that we're talking about a comic, what the fuck is a Madman? // e.
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if ratner has any since at all, he'll pull edward norton (a fine actor) out of the role of will grahm and give it to viggo mortenson. viggo is will grahm.
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William Petersen was, is, and always shall be Will Graham. So endeth the lesson. // e.
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You had *WAY* too much caramel macchiato this morning- that run-on sentence in the middle of your post has STILL got my head spinning. When I get some time later, I'll try to transfer your answer to some sort of graphic chart for slightly easier translation. Whoah! e.
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Three words ... Freddie Prinze Jr.
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Ah, I was just f'ing with ya before. But seriously, I dunno about Viggo as Madman. He seems too serious to me. I know that Frank Einstein himself is not especially wacky, but whoever is cast will have to be able to play it straight while all forms of surreal and bizarre phenomenon unfold around him. We need a one-eyebrow-raised type of actor. I don't have a suggestion but I have to say "keep looking' when Viggo's name is raised for this part.
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Robert Rodriguez on a roll... =)
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though, I don't really like Viggo =)
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He's a "one eye-brow raised" type of actor. But i really would not seriously know since I have never read Madman. Unlike most on this talkback, I have heard of it though.
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They just go for style over any substance.. always.
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Jan 27, 2002 2:58:28 PM CST
Note from Viggo to self.."avoid being typecast as really cool, h
by smugbug
Viggo as Madman? I really have to think this one over......
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That man is now officially an Uber-God.
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Ok, just a little more clarification on Madman, he's the creation of a Mike Allred, and while he is not another super-franchise like the X-men or Superman, both Mike Allred and Madman have industry-wide respect for both the quality of artwork as well as the story. Allred, as a matter of fact, did art for Kevin Smith's movies. So many of you have seen his work and don't even know it.
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Madman is my extreme favorite comic. That and Anything else that allred does. I really like his new X-Force. Vigo as Madman you say? I don't know about that, I always pictured Steve Buscemi as madman. Viggo always seemedkind of Old and Rugged for Madman.
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I thought it was a flawed but entertaining movie that promised much more than it delivered. Despite that, as I say, I enjoyed it despite it's flaws. It was good enough for me to want it to be better. To me, it seemed like a good candidate to become a cult movie. As a comic book fan, I just find the premise of a bunch of third-string wannabe super-heroes to be inherently funny. In fact, to me, it kind of reflects the outlook of fans, especially younger ones, who read comics. Comics allow us to fantasize about being these super-powerful beings, when the reality is the opposite. Our youthful desire to imagine ourselves as superheroes is itself, in part, a response to our own powerlessness. The idea of a bunch of loser superheroes trying to make it in the big leagues is probably more true to life of comic book readers own experience than that of the lead superheroes (who, in Mystery Men, are represented by the smug and unlikable winner, Captain Amazing). Anyway, Mystery Men could have been a much better movie than it was, but for me, it was enough to be entertaining. Barron out.
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I like the idea of a Madman movie and even Robert Rodriguez directing. But Viggo Mortensen is in his early 40s--he's at least 20 years too old to play Frank Einstein!
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Jan 27, 2002 4:31:45 PM CST
What's wrong with some of you people? Madman use to be huge.
by cooler-than-thou
I have never run into a comic book enthusiast that hasn't heard of Mike Allred & Madman. And what are some of you bitching about?
I'd rather see a small, little known comic get made and developed right then waste any time with stinkers with big names like Batman Forever & Superman 3. But maybe that's just me. -
I expected more of Talk Backers. Any Geek worth his/her salt would know who Mad Man is. Get back to your comic shops and educate yourselves to the genius of Allred, Poser-Scumb.
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I just wanted to say to everyone that keeps saying they have never heard of madman and that only 20 people have ever heard of madman that Madman is a major comic book. It is published by darkhorse and is carried in almost every comic book store there is and i bet that guy that says he goes to his comic shop twice a month that if he were to look up madman in the back issuse they would have it. Now I'm not sure if Allred still does Madman because he is doing X-Force now which is very similar to his madman style although he doesn't write it and it is a top 20 book.
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Jan 27, 2002 5:59:38 PM CST
The only place I recall seeing and hearing about Madman...
by terry_1978
was a few years back when I was still into collecting a little comic fave of mine called Gen 13. Madman had a cameo in a 3 book series that had Grunge(I know somebody else is familiar with Gen 13 besides me) in a dream sequence featuring famous comic characters and parodies of comic characters. Madman carries a freaking yo-yo as a weapon and is dressed all in white...kind of a "Mask-ish" character to tell you the truth. I think a more comedic actor is needed to play him.
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Madman is a very different sort of comic book. It's currently not being published right now (sort of on hiatus). It folows the adventures of Frank Einstien (Say it very quickly), a resurrected secret agent who's trying to make the world a better place, or at least spend some time with his girlfriend. It is published by Dark Horse Comics. Mike Allred is currently drawing "X-Force" for Marvel Comics, so if you want to get a sense of the style of Madman, check that out. It should be right next to "X-Men" in your local comic book shop. It also happens that Mike's wife Laura is the colorist of both Madman and X-Force. She has a very different sort of palate - similar to early pop artists like Warhol. Very psychadelic.
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Remember at the beginning of Chasing Amy how some guy is talking to Mike Allred and Mike Allred goes "Chow Yun Fat's great but I don't really see him as Madman" or something along those lines.
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I just got into Madman in the middle of last year and just dug it to death. Kinda strange considering my comic fanboy phase died about five years ago. Mike and Laura's art is really keen and Frank is such an interesting character. I'm pretty interested in seeing if this film goes through and who they'll cast as Frank's flame, Josephine (hubba hubba). Here's a question for any Allred fans out there: how do I get a copy of the CD that came with Red Rocket 7? I'm interested in hearing Mike's music. -- Onto Jhonen V. Now, I'm not into self-mutilation and I'm not that gloomy (I just tend to wear dark colors most of the time) and yes, I dig JTHM. I see what you guys mean about the core rabid fanbase, though. It tends to be a bunch of depresso trendy goths who do all their shopping in the seventh circle of consumer hell (Hot Topic) while writing odes to Trent Reznor on parchment in their own blood. A movie of Johnny would be pretty interesting though, but fat chance it'll happen considering how certain politicians (i.e. Lieberman and McCain) and parents groups will react to the violent content. I'm suprised Evan Dorkin really dislikes JTHM that much. To each their own.
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Evil Reader, you're way off on Madman. The book does have heart, soul, and vision. Frank is a sweet-natured, mostly innocent character, slowly coming to terms with his former life as a ruthless secret agent, and the violent impulses that sometimes surface because of it. Allred injects existentialist and metaphysical philosophizing into Frank's internal monologues, amidst a backdrop of wacky robots, bug-eyed aliens and mutants, all in psychedelic day-glo colors. The nature of identity is the primary theme, and Frank's relationship with his devoted girlfriend Joe is sweet and grounds the kooky events surrounding them in a sort of comforting normalcy. Oh, and did I mention Frank is reanimated corpse with blue skin and psychic powers? There's that too. Sounds like perfect material for the director of Spy Kids and Desperado. Rodriguez can pull this off. I doubt anybody else could, but Rodriguez is the man.
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I hope I wasn't lumped into your last post about JTHM fan bashers (though I probably was). Yeah, I took a shot, but that doesn't mean I don't dig the stuff. A majority of the fanbase (at least the people I know who like JTHM, Squee, Zim, BAC, and I Feel Sick) happens to be part of the bad goth stereotype. You're right about Jhonen's attitude about these particular folks: look no further than the Anne Gwish shorts or I Feel Sick and Devi's club encounter with two spooky folk (there's probably more but I'm too sleepy to remember). Take care. Later
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SixtyFoot- Guess who got me reading Vasquez?
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Jan 28, 2002 1:12:18 AM CST
Cerebus The Aardvark, now there's a comic book that would tr
by arkhan77
and if you believe that, then you've obviously paid any kind of attention to Cerebus and/or its creator. I knew of mMadman but had never read any of Allred's stuff until i recently picked up the Atomics. It's nice, nothing groundbreaking, but still better than most of the muck that's out there. And i am as big a fan of mr Dorkin as i am of mr. Vasquez and my lifestyle/choice of dress does not reflect my affection for either of these writers. But thank you, SixtyFoot, that's the best laugh i've had in a long time. as a matter of fact, i'm still chuckling as i write this... Trent Reznor is fat *snicker*
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Dear Sir,
I respect your opinions and your right to have them. I appreciate that although we're both claiming to be liberal, anti-Republican Americans, we obviously differ greatly on what some of the inherent principles contained in liberalism entail.
I sought out your site to simply get an impression of who was coming into various AICN TalkBack's on consecutive Sunday's and making rather profound, sweeping judgements with prejudice and bias- this week, it's 'nearly all' underground comic artist's (none of whom actually compare to the low-paid hacks of the '30's-'50's, who you obviously hold in high esteem, and who were great in their own right and time); last week, you actually had the unmitigated gall to state that all persons who enjoyed horror films were advocates of rape and murder.
What possibly will it be next week, Tom? Those of us who engage in pre-marital sex are in truth part of the conspiracy that spread AIDS throughout the late seventies and eighties? That those of us who have actually worked on a succesful horror film (with a company right there in your very own Orlando, natch) are in truth pre-pubescent child-raping Sandinistas?
(I'm very sorry to disappoint you in this matter, but these prejudicial mewlings you're espousing around here are NOT EXACTLY what liberals need to further their causes).
I just love the fact that your personal web-site ( http://www.off-model.com ) seems to have been created in response to your disdain of AICN and most of it's readers, yet you drop in here weekly to loftily mist us with your condescending sneezes, then crawl immediately back to your tiny soap-box, never actually inviting discussion or debate. Hell, you don't even come out and tell us that you *have* a web-site where the wonders of 'pure' animation and comics can be....well, not discussed, because you're not into that, but at least where you can rain pious displeasure with the occasional rant, and then solicit "Hate Mail" to be dissected at your pleasure- and it surely is a deft display of skill to see you tear apart a letter that, at best, came from an illiterate 14 year-old!
Also, you do realize that your dismissal of fans of certain genres of entertainment is far better than any Grand Old Party censorship- because you've pretty much just decided that instead of editing Nabokov's 'Lolita' for content, you'll just burn the damned thing, and all should agree with your views or else not be counted (and please don't rebut that with something trite like, "I was merely expressing my views, not impressing them upon anyone else," because when you call horror film fans endorsers/purveyours of rape and murder, you're automatically dismissing anything they could say to express their views- but we've established that you don't like honest, clear feedback and discussion, haven't we?).
In closing, I must state the obvious- if someone dislikes an opinion I espouse on this site, and in responding to it just manages to call me a "cock-smokin pigg fucker" (or just blasts 10 of us at once by telling us we 'suck Hairy's ballz'), I usually smile and move along, because that's the nature of the beast. If, however, someone tells me that because I enjoy a certain genre of entertainment, I am promoting rape and murder, then runs back to their personal Fortress of Solitude until the next time they feel like making sweeping generalizations- that actually gets my attention.
So I post this here, and I send this note to your 'Hate Mail' repository, and who knows where we shall meet next?
(And, for what it's worth, the last comic I got into was Ennis' "Preacher"; of course, this probably is indicative of my predilection to anally invade Catholic nuns, my Death's Head insignia proudly displayed, my jack-boots spit shined. Please enlighten me....)
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Jan 28, 2002 5:49:57 AM CST
Viggo had one of the truly best interpretations of Lucifer/The D
by monkey_king
Chilling stuff. Although he had more dialogue in the earlier version called GOD'S ARMY, they re-shot the opening and a few other scenes. Hopefully they will release a special edition with these missing scenes.
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Well he was great in LOTR but I don't know if he can pull off MADMAN aka Frank Einstien. I see Jude Law as a perfect MADMAN before Viggo. But I have been hearing about a MADMAN movie for over 5 years now and frankly I am not sure if MADMAN would transfer well to the big screen. Smaller comic books that were turned into films like Judge Dredd and Tank Girl really sucked and ruined what could have been cool franchises. And for those of you who don't know what MADMAN is are really missing out on some good old fashioned comic book fun.
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1)If your comic book store isn't carrying Madman, you need to start going to a different comic book store. He crossed over with Superman, for crying out loud! 2)saying "every rabid JTHM fan I've ever met has been a self-mutilating stoopid gloomy low-self-esteem red-wine-soaked fuckin' Spooky Kid" is like saying "every AICN talkbacker I've ever met has been a 300 pd. immature virginal whiney myopic acne-scarred recluse who lives with his parents." Dig? 3)My girlfriend has a crush on Viggo Mortenson. I keep trying to tell her he's got bad teeth and a chin-butt, but to no avail. sk
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Madman is shite, and so are all underground comix folks, compared to the great visionary works in comic books of the 90's: the Spider-clone saga, the 2099 Universe, the first appearance of the Goth in X-Men, Rob Liefeld's groundbreaking reimagining of the Marvel Universe, Zero Hour, Lobo, and uh, um. Hmmmm. Well, never mind. Maybe Evil Reader is wrong after all.
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YES! MR MONSTER!! It needs to get made, pure slapstick comic-horror. I had mentioned this before in some talk back, only to have only one, fellow talk backer know what I was talking about.BLOODY ONE! Shame on all you ignorant comic fans out there! ;-). Jeezus, it could be the best comic to screen adaption since Doc Savage (no irony intended btw).To quote that other talkbacker, "it would be the Citizen Kane of comic-horror flicks".
Wonder how Brucey C would look with blonde hair?....and Amber Smith is Kelly. -
...Rob Liefeld's wonderous work on Youngblood and Image comics in general. No doubt the late shipping dates, keen colors, derivative characters, scantily clad women, and lack of intriguing writing makes Image one of the finest things to happen to comics since, well... comics. There's nothing like a bunch of X-Men rip-off teams (except the X-Men).
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might be better for Madman. I love Madman...and Red Rocket 7 aint too shabby, either...
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You've got to be joking. Madman? And I thought Kung-Pow was a lousy idea.
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His art's all line-y and stuff, and he drew big eyes on Spider-Man. Neat! (Actually, I do sorta like him, sarcasm notwithstanding.)
So yeah, the topic. Madman movie: don't follow comics much anymore, but I think it would be swell in the right hands.
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