Nickelodeon Cans INVADER ZIM
Dave here, damn you Nick, you really suck sometimes. Word is that this past afternoon, the word was sent down from Nickelodeon that well...read on:
We just got the news here at Nicktoons. The pants have been pulled. The piggie has crashed and burned. Nickelodeon has officially scaled back their plans for Invader ZIM from 20 new episodes in our second season to a mere six.
Big Brother Nick cites poor ratings -- and I don't want to get into a long and painful discussion over the many and complicated factors that go into these decisions. But suffice to say for the moment Operation Impending Doom II is dead in the water.
I suppose the good news for the loyal ZIM folk out there is that there still will be 16 new half-hours coming down the line starting in March. The faithful have many, many fine episodes to look forward to in the weeks ahead. And if we're lucky we'll even get to squeeze out a Christmas special.
Yay. Uh-huh. Yay.
I'll keep you up to date with more info as it becomes available.
Agent Darkbooite out.
Ain't that a kick in the face? Especially considering how incredibly unwatchable the rest of Nickelodeon's lineup is? What a shame. Maybe Cartoon Network will have the brains to pick up Zim and give it a decent time slot. We can hope.
-Dave, El Cosmico
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Jan. 17, 2002, 11:58 p.m. CST
That's the only show i watch on that network. Well, i guess that means 40 new episodes of square bob and larry pants or whatever they are called.
Jan. 18, 2002, 12:26 a.m. CST
The show was way too aware of itself. Sure, it tried hard, but it always had one eye on the mirror checking out how cool it was.
Jan. 18, 2002, 12:36 a.m. CST
I can't believe they would rather produce mass quantities of green goop for their network than give a brilliant show like 'Invader Zim' a chance to thrive. They can churn out crap like 'Rocket Power' and 'Keenan & Kel' but once they get a decent animated series that is actually funny and extremely creative... they can't handle it. Please, CARTOON NETWORK... you are the only one that can save us!!! This show belongs with you ...right up there with SAMURAI JACK. Don't let it die.
Jan. 18, 2002, 12:43 a.m. CST
by user id indeed!
So, the bastard children of those Mountain Dew monkeys keep getting their "power" for their "rockets",and this show goes down? If only Mega-Baby could stomp that (now)useless channel into the GROOOUUUUND!!! This has been a Moment with User ID Indeed! I luv dis show!
Jan. 18, 2002, 12:58 a.m. CST
by Captain Comicz
Oh, wait a sec...they've done that! Do ya' think the suits at Nick could got and suck the blood out of the Teletubbies, maybe dig up my Grandmother and have their way. You'd think they would've had their fill by taking the soul from "Ren and Stimpy", but I guess not. Damn, I guess Zim's not generic enough for them.
Jan. 18, 2002, 1:09 a.m. CST
Yes but will we ever see Zim and Gaz finally kiss cause they are ment for each other.
Jan. 18, 2002, 1:14 a.m. CST
by vroom socko
Let me add my voice to the crowd, Cartoon Network needs to pick up this show. Nick has become a seriously awful network. Shows like Fairly OddParents, Butt Ugly Martians and other subpar dreck is draining viewers of their brain cells. Zim is a terrific show, tv animation hasn't seen anything this funny since Ren & Stimpy, and we all know what happened to that.
Jan. 18, 2002, 2:04 a.m. CST
Goddamn it all to pus-filled hell!!! All I have ever managed to see of ZIM has been about 10 episodes thanks to working every friday night and ALWAYS forgetting to set the VCR. Then, to make matters worse, our cable went out for the whole day when I did manage to remember to set the VCR. SHIT! EVERYONE I HAVE EVER INTRODUCED TO ZIM HAS LOVED THE SHOW! Maybe Cartoon Network could grab it for their Adult Swim lineup (allow the episodes to be more violent and disturbing and bitter). Shit, this was a show that exceeded some animated FILMS in terms of animation quality. So, crap like Rocket Power and Wild Thornberries get to live on, but fucking ZIM gets fucked!? In the words of the immortal Jay: "Fuck all that shit, Silent Bob!" Zim was the best fucking show Nick had in addition to Fairly Oddparents. Now I only wonder how long THAT has left. I should have known things were bad for Zim when Nick pretty much cornfucked it over every weekend to show countless hours of Thornberries. Well, if anyone is interested, I'll track down my few ZIMs on tape and try to put them up on the net in some form real soon. Maybe even tonight... FUCK! Now I know how those fucking hardcore X-files and Roswell fans felt!
Jan. 18, 2002, 2:15 a.m. CST
What a bunch of assholes nick is! All they ever show are those ugly drawn cartoons and that annoying rug rats!!! Well they messed with ren and stimpy and now invader zim! NICK YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!! CARTOON NETWORK PICK THIS UP!!!!!!!!! YOU WANT IT!!!
Jan. 18, 2002, 2:40 a.m. CST
I can't believe Nick is getting rid of Zim; It's such a great show. It'd be great if Cartoon Network picked it up, but I'd be pissed if MTV got a hold of it. MTV picking Zim up is a really bad idea. How many great shows have the canned the minute something new and trendy - that they think "the kids" will like more- comes along. Cartoon Network, pick this up and put it right after Cowboy Bebop. BTW, the New Cornelius album comes out in the US on Jan. 22nd. and remember - I was there...3000 years ago.
Jan. 18, 2002, 2:45 a.m. CST
Don't get me wrong, I love this show to death, although lately I've been sick of seeing the same episode 4-5 times (it seems to get stuck in rerun hell a lot). There was absolutely no promotion for this show whatsoever. No TV commercials, no billboards, no posters, etc. Even when Jhonen V./Nick were at the Comic-Con showing it off they had zilch merchandise and zilch freebies. Compare that to Samurai Jack/Cartoon Network which had CD-Roms and other sh*t, plus within 2 months they had action figures out exclusively on Cartoon Networks site, commercials, etc. I'm assuming that Nick is a bigger company than Cartoon Network??? It's only recently that Zim merchandise has come out (see www.hottopic.com) and still no promotion. Like one TB'r said, Cartoon Network or Sci-Fi Channel should pick this up, it had no business being on Nick anyway, it's too advanced for them and too adult. Nick, the very least you can do now to make me happy is release an Invader Zim DVD.
Jan. 18, 2002, 3:13 a.m. CST
Hey, I too was a former workerbee at Nickel-and-Dime-alodeon and I'm here to say that Zim isn't getting pulled due to poor ratings... its ratings are just as good as any other show on the network. It's all about the content, especially post-9/11 terrorism. Nick NY feels the show is too edgy and dark and will inspire school shootings and other bullshit. It's the same reason they cancelled my pilot -- watch it now at http://members.aol.com/cancerous/payne.html One second they loved it and were going to do 26 episodes, on the 12th of September they hated it and didn't want to put on a show where Bad People do Bad Things. Stupid. Angry Beavers, then Spongebob, and now Zim... soon it will be the all-Rugrats channel.
Jan. 18, 2002, 4:05 a.m. CST
Spongebob Squarepants is a great show that gets buried in all of Nickolodeon's crap. It's clever and funny, anyone who hasn't watched it is missing out.
Jan. 18, 2002, 4:21 a.m. CST
...given all the merchandise out there to promote SpongeBob? I know people who swear by the show, but I saw a few episodes and wasn't really all that thrilled with it. For some reason that I can't figure out, college kids and high school kids really latched onto SBSP and totally missed the boat on Zim.
Jan. 18, 2002, 5:38 a.m. CST
it's http://www.geocities.com/wdorr/Untitled.rm That's the link the the "Bestest Friends" episode (us.share.geocities.com/wdorr/Untitled.rm MIGHT work too. I got it streaming by opening it straight from RealPlayer, but you should be able to dl to HD if you want.). It's low quality (2.9MB), but it was as large as I could make it without splitting it up into two pieces and should be about a 10 min or so download. I think it needs at least Realvideo v8 to view, though (tried putting it on in .wmv format, but it wouldn't take...) Also, on the main page there are two ZIM links that are not to episodes, but to videos I put together several months ago (and lost the original AVI during a HD format... Damn it!). I've think I've got about 2.25 more hours of Zim I think that I can probably get on there in the next few days (pilot, idiot dog brain, rubber piggies, career day, Dad Signature, nanozim, wettening, and I think one more full half-hour). If I do, I'll put links on the main page. If not, the Untitled.rm will be the only one I'll have available for viewing. (I'd better be careful. Damn VCR damn near ate the tape and probably ruined the tape I've got the the Spumco Bjork video on...) (NOTES: Took me 3 hours to upload this and have it play back properly. While streaming it, it seemed to get stuck a few times as if it were buffering at 99%. Pausing it for about 5 seconds and unpausing set it right, it seems.)
Jan. 18, 2002, 7:22 a.m. CST
Nick orders 20 episodes and then scales back to only 6? There's more than just ratings at work here. Alas, Nick almost certainly owns all or part of Zim, so I doubt Jhonen Vasquez can pick up and take it elsewhere, although Cartoon Network would probably give it a good home.
Jan. 18, 2002, 7:23 a.m. CST
Ok, X-Files getting the boot, fine, its been long time coming. Will miss what it USED to be, but i think it's had a nice run. Fine. Then The Tick gets cancelled...which just plain chafes my ass to no end, especially considering that last night's episode was pure coolness. But, oh, Temptation Island's still on the air...dammit....and i was on the verge of recovery, having found out that Ren and Stimpy somehow snuck its way onto VH1 at 11:30 at night.....but now this....this...::sighgrowl:: Goddamn you, Nick. I mean, yeah, some part of me DID see this coming....i mean, look at it, Zim was NOT a kiddie cartoon, unlike the other bulltripe taking up valuable space that rightfully belonged to Rocko's Modern Life, Ren and Stimpy, and Ahh! Real Monsters before Nickelodeon gave them the shaft too(actually, somebody above got it right...Nick took Ren and Stimpy's soul first, THEN gave it the shaft)...and Nickelodeon's first and foremost a children's network...something this twisted was bound to just not work on that network....but i'm still pissed off to no fathomable end....i mean, when was the last time you saw a commercial for Invader Zim? Or a poster? Or a promo? in fact, pretty everyone i know who watches the show heard of it because either A: Staunch devotion to Jhonen Vasquez. or B: A friend told 'em about it. And believe me, if you know a kid that's in Nickelodeon's target audience, and he's into Jhonen, I suggest counseling. Pronto. There was precisely ZERO push for this show from day one, and shows with no push are destined for failure, no matter WHO it may piss off. But, I'm not going on a psychotic rant, simply because i have a little faith that somebody out there's gonna pick it up. And, if anybody, it's gonna be either MTV or Cartoon Network. Much as i have issues with MTV musically, they do their "alternative programming" right, which is ironic, considering they also own Nickelodeon....and Cartoon Network, of course, even if they do pull "Where's Waldo"s with their material every once in a while(Thundercats is on 6 in the morning now?!), they WILL keep shows on the air. Of course, you know, if there was karmic justice in the universe, ZIM would've been cancelled in favor of getting a JTHM cartoon on HBO, and even then, i wouldnt pray for that yet, because I'M still waiting for Todd McFarlane to MOVE HIS ASS on getting a season 4 of Spawn on the air. But thats another rant....::sigh:: It was good while it lasted, guys. I'm just gonna get the last couple of eps on tape, and that'll be it. Operation Doom II has suffered massive failure. bleh....it's not a good week to be a TV fanatic. Revolution is still my name. Z?
Jan. 18, 2002, 8:01 a.m. CST
by johnny destructo
i've just stabbed my eyes out. first the tick. now zim. the tick i could see coming, but ZIM? why???? i loveded you piggy.. i LOVEDED YOUUUUUUUU!! someone please pick this show up and give it what it deserves! jd.
Jan. 18, 2002, 8:10 a.m. CST
Heck..I've never even see Invader Zim or whatever..But it still get's me to this day what happened with Ren and Stimpy. First getting screwed over by Nick, then canceling it...uggh. Now I only have one hope...they release every episode of Ren and Stimpy on DVD. I want 4 things out of my life, A wive, a decent job, a house of my own, and Ren and Stimpy to have a proper DVD set. That's it..if I could have those 4 things I would be set.
Jan. 18, 2002, 8:50 a.m. CST
I just got cable and this was one of the things I wanted to watch. But these days it's all 500 channels and I never have any idea what's going on aside from Buffy and Angel every week. Half the time I just turn on Animal Planet where there's a 90% chance it'll be "Crocodile Hunter" or VH1 where it's almost certainly someone's "Behind the Music". sk
Jan. 18, 2002, 8:58 a.m. CST
Jan. 18, 2002, 9:21 a.m. CST
This show and Sealab are the only reasons i watched Adult Swim.... what happened to Harvey Birdman??? I have to know...
Jan. 18, 2002, 9:34 a.m. CST
I think Fox should pick Zim out. Fox would be a perfect place for good ol' Zim. They could move it to Fridays, and movie Family Guy along with it. Hell, they should move Futurerama to Fridays, too! Maybe a little King of the Hill, or The Tick if we get lucky. THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE MOST POWERFUL FRIDAY NIGHT, EVER! MUWAHAHA!
Jan. 18, 2002, 9:37 a.m. CST
At what point did Nick Toons realize that they had an entertaining program on their schedule? I was wondering how long it would take for them to find out that they had accidentally programed a decent half hour of their network. I just pray that Zim isn't so deep in their clutches that it won't be able to escape to another network. Well, if Ren and Stimpy can find a home on VH1, I guess anything's possible.
Jan. 18, 2002, 9:49 a.m. CST
by Sod Off Baldric
Invader Zim + Adult Swim = creamy goodness. That is all I have to say. Well, that and Nickelodeon has become the MTV of the pre-teen set...and that is NOT a good thing. I hate Viacom.
Jan. 18, 2002, 10:11 a.m. CST
CN's budget is pretty much at its limits. I don't see them picking up any new shows. I think if they had the money, they would of picked up zim.
Jan. 18, 2002, 10:26 a.m. CST
Alas, Invader Zim, we hardly knew thee. This is another in a long line of great Nick shows(Ren and Stimpy, Rocko, Pete and Pete, Real Monsters)with a cult fanbase that is killed and is never heard from or seen again, unless you count the bargin video tape bins at large media retailers. This does indeed, as the masses say, suck. Is there anything we can do to provent this from happening? Not really. The Nick suits have decided to drop the axe, and all we can do is complain that it is a bad desision.That is presicely what we need to do, scream and complain in mass. I doubt that the news of poor Zim's imminate cancelation has gone unnoticed at Cartoon Network. There may even be a plot afoot to rescue Zim & Company from their current plight(Gendy, Craig, CN Suits; Are you lisening?) Now if we cause enough of a stink we may actually get some movement on this. It has worked before(Mystery Science Theater 3000), and it might just work again. Ok, so Operation Impending Doom II didn't work, but that doesn't mean we have to stop tring. Now is the time when when we must, as a community, do what we do best; organize and then complain, complain, complain! Eventually we will make enough of a nucence that someone somewhere will have to respond. Now get out there and do your best! Remember, there is a little robot in a dog suit with a rubber piggy counting on you to save him, let's not let him down.
Jan. 18, 2002, 10:53 a.m. CST
Its another case of a show with a distinct following...not just mommy turns it on so little wuggums will shut his face hole and leave her alone, but people who really liked the show. When I have a busy week, I only get Buffy, Smallville, and Zim. It's another case of the suits have never watched anything but the pilot and the Zim crowd just isn't selling the barbie ad time. Hey, maybe it will all fit on two DVDs. Commentary tracks would be a hoot.
Jan. 18, 2002, 11:55 a.m. CST
by SilentBob X
I loved this toon like no other on Nick. It was proof positive that there is entertainment that transcends age like Invader Zim. I only hope that in the future, we'll get them on a DVD box set. But, then again, I'm still holding my breath for a Lone Gunmen DVD box set, so what do I fuckin' know. Oh, well. Goodbye, noble conquerer Zim. You will be missed. Snootchie Bootchies
Jan. 18, 2002, 12:07 p.m. CST
Nothing more to add - hopefully someone else will pick up this inspired show. * * * EVERYBODY - go to Cancerous' web site and watch his Constant Payne pilot that was cancelled by Nick. Great stuff. * * *EBONIC PLAGUE - Gotta disagree with ya. BABY BLUES is a mediocre comic strip but a TERRIFIC show. The Drew Carey-Scooby Doo homage in the first episode was priceless.
Jan. 18, 2002, 12:27 p.m. CST
Put ZIM on at 10 or 11 at night...I freaking love the show..OBEY THE FIST!!!!
Jan. 18, 2002, 1:16 p.m. CST
by Rev Scapegoat
If you can get hold of the installer for Morpheus, or Kazaa failing that, then almost every episode of Zim is up there in DivX format. That's how I've seen it in the UK. And have duly been spreading the word to friends, family, and random strangers...
Jan. 18, 2002, 1:17 p.m. CST
Zim is why Johnen never has time to do comics anymore, and the comics are much funnier. There are more laughs in I Feel Sick #1 than in the whole run of Invader Zim. If this is the price to pay for more Johnny and Devi comics, so be it.
Jan. 18, 2002, 1:43 p.m. CST
by Frank Einstein
It's production was delayed, but it's coming back in the spring. Check Toonzone.net's Adult Swim page for details.
Jan. 18, 2002, 1:44 p.m. CST
by Capt FUBAR
Damn...I went to a friend's house the other week to drink beer, smoke dope, and watch some stuff he and his girlfriend taped. I had NO idea that Invader Zim existed, and it was one of the funniest cartoons I had seen in years (even without the chiba). Now I get home, have to go to friggin' Nick's lame-ass website to sift through every flash animation time-waster to find out when it plays (Friday nights? Hunh?) and set up my UlitimateTV. Now its gonna be canceled?? Bastards!!!-----------I'm in agreement, this needs to be on Cartoon network where it would work. They need to stop showing so much crappy Dragonball Z anyway. I don't think Fox would make a very good home for it at all, actually. Family guy has more universal appeal, even as weird as it is. Zim is more a cartoon fan's cartoon. _____________Here's hoping for the jump to CN!
Jan. 18, 2002, 2:21 p.m. CST
Really great Star Wars smackdown found here : http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/2002/01/18/lotr/index.html
Jan. 18, 2002, 2:58 p.m. CST
Nickelodeon NEVER releases the rights to any of their shows. They still hold the rights to Ren and Stimpy and the original Doug. If Zim wants to go on another network, it'll have to go through a name change most likely. SLG has stated no more JTHM Squee or I Feel Sick comics are going to be made. However, Jhonen has been itching to do a JTHM animated series.
Jan. 18, 2002, 3:29 p.m. CST
by Kai Vincent
Of course it was going to get canned. Fuckers.
Jan. 18, 2002, 3:33 p.m. CST
Nick is a kid's network interested in shows that get kids to watch. You might think Nick has nothing good on, but most of you are probably in your 20's-30's. Not exactly the target audience. My 5 year old loves Nick.
Jan. 18, 2002, 3:38 p.m. CST
by Van Damned
Just add 'Zim' to the expanding list of cartoons who have been taken away from us too early, and yet 'Family Guy' is given carte blanche over at Fox. There is no God.
Jan. 18, 2002, 3:47 p.m. CST
by Van Damned
I'm not really surprised either; shows that are 'too hip' or not understood by thier 'target' audience (whatever the hell that is) always fall by the wayside. And maybe 'Zim', in the final anyalsis, is outgrowing its home at Nick. It was always a little subversive and subtly nasty, which was great but not like the rest of the baby chow on that channel; perhaps Cartoon Network or the WB really ought to look into purchasing it before Nick ruins it for us (kids AND adults). BTW, my nieces and nephew watch the show regularly, as do I. They get what they want from the show, and so do I. Saying it's just for kids means you don't like what your kids like, which leaves your judgement in such matters suspect. Nyah.
Jan. 18, 2002, 3:50 p.m. CST
Nick did give up the rights to one of its shows, "Ren and Stimpy" can be seen on VH1 at I believe 11:30 weeknights (of course VH1 is another Viacom-CBS property like Nickelodeon, but the point is true, Nick will occationally give up rights (I remember seeming late at night a episode of Sponge Bob on MTV (another Viacom-CBS prop) which confused the hell out of me when I saw a few weeks ago)) They might be willing to with ZIM if the price was right since its not like they are making a killing on merchandise.
Jan. 18, 2002, 4:09 p.m. CST
R&S is on VH1 because Nick shares the rights with them. It's a cinch because they're both properties of Viacom.
Jan. 18, 2002, 4:09 p.m. CST
Can somebody please explain the concept? I can see that alot of people are passionate about the show but I've never heard of it. That may be one of the reasons its getting the shaft.
Jan. 18, 2002, 4:32 p.m. CST
by Agent Moth Girl
AMG: I'm not alone here. I have my friend who is also mad here with me. Emma: NICK IS FUCKED UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and i love orlando bloom(not like that has anything to do with this but...nevermind)im an elf AMG: Yes, they all must know you are an elf. I don't agree with your Orlando Bloom obsession...but I will agree that Nickelodeon is a fucked up network. [grumbles] Buncha screwballs. Emma: ok,what do they expect us to watch?but ugly martians?that show sux!!!!!!so does everything else on that screwed up net!!!!!!they all deserve to go to hell!!! AMG: Who's bright idea was it to do this? I mean, what the hell?! It's not like anything else on that network can even compare to Zim! Well, they're losing me as a ZOMBIE FOLLOWER!!! Emma: ME TOO!they seriously better reconsider this,they are loosing a lot lot lot lot lot lot of viewers!!!!!!!!!!including me(as i said befor) AMG: Cartoon Network better have the BRAINS to take on this show! Maybe Nickelodeon will go out of business. Heheheh, I'd like that...wouldn't you? Emma: ...A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! AMG: [Slides her hand down her face] Oh well. [Sigh] They'd better have an explanation for all this!!! It is so IRRISPONSIBLE for them to do this and not TELL us anything!!! Emma: what are they making mor room for, rollie pollie ollie?ZIM WILL PREVAIL!!!!!!!!!!
Jan. 18, 2002, 4:33 p.m. CST
My friend will keel over.. He loves Invader Zim..and I found out about it from him..he sat me down to watch a couple of episodes and I really dug it. But Im not terribly surprised..its not a Nickelodeon type show.. Its more of a Cartoon Network show and I hope CN pays attention and picks it up. Nickelodeon.. shame on you! What are you gonna put on.. More Rugrat-looking cartoon shows?? UGH UGH UGH
Jan. 18, 2002, 5:17 p.m. CST
this isn't fair. Zim is only on Fridays and when you do find the time to watch the show or schedule your VCR to record it, they show some other stupid show instead. and now, they won't be having hardly any new episodes. well, screw you, Nickelodeon, i hope you and all of your other moronic shows burn in Hell.
Jan. 18, 2002, 5:37 p.m. CST
The fact that they would cancel Zim and leave that piece of crap "Butt Ugly Martins" is enough to make me puke. At least Zim has incredible animation. I won't even let my kids watch Butt Ugly Martins cauz the animation is so bad.
Jan. 18, 2002, 5:43 p.m. CST
FUCK. Zim is my favorite 'toon right now, and well, FUCK.
Jan. 18, 2002, 5:54 p.m. CST
I liked Zim as a show, but it did not in any way belong on Nick. I have a young child who likes watching a lot of the other shows that are on Nick, and he enjoyed watching Zim, but did not understand the show at all. It was too dark, too moody, and too disgusting. My wife really disliked the show, so she is not going to be sad to see it go, but I am. I would like the show to be picked up by someone else to show at a later hour- like Adult Swim! To all of you that have this anger towards Nick for canning this show, remember Nick is for young kids not for us Twenty year olds and above!
Jan. 18, 2002, 6:05 p.m. CST
i've never watched Zim on nick, my schedule just never seems to allow it. but a friend downloaded an episode and showed me, and i downloaded the rest of season one here: http://posejdon.bg.univ.gda.pl/~void/Zim/ >>>>also, another site i've found it at is: http://yourmom.dhs.org/zim/ >>>>really sucks that it got cancelled, this show rocked in such a big way. really something different. soon as i saw it, i thought 'no way will this last. its too good.' rip.
Jan. 18, 2002, 6:31 p.m. CST
by Cajun Lightning
The reason why the masses have latched on to Spongebob and not Zim is because Spongebob is actually on television occasionally. I saw Invader Zim twice, entirely by accident. It was just as funny and original as Spongebob and all our friends on Cartoon Network, but the show just isn't on, or it's on at stupid times like Friday nights when no one is home watching television. (Even geeks like us go out, you know.) Here's a little marketing tip: If you air it, they will come. Although I'm sure it really is about September 11, as is all things that suck now in Hollywood.
Jan. 18, 2002, 6:56 p.m. CST
Maybe if they had actually promoted these shows and stopped moving it around all over creation, people would have tuned in. One week ZIM would be on Sundays at 5:30PM, next it's on Saturdays at 11:00PM. I thought it was the most creative and hilarious cartoon since "The Tick". Problem is, I only managed to catch about four episodes in total because of the aforementioned idiotic schedule changes. Nickelodeon needs to die a slow painful death. Hell, let it take MTV down with it.
Jan. 18, 2002, 7:17 p.m. CST
This show is DOOOMED! *sniffle* (in GIR voice)I luv you zim
Jan. 18, 2002, 7:25 p.m. CST
where everyone is getting the idea that Zim has been cancelled? Nowhere in the report does it say that. It does say that they are scaling back from 20 eps in season 2 down to 6. If they are still going to make these 6 new episodes how can it be cancelled? Only if those eps have already been completed and they've fired all the animators and will broadcast only what's been done, could you say its over. But if they are still making them, then it's still a new season with the possibility of maybe another season in the future. Of course it could be going the way of the batman/superman adventures on the wb. Weren't there only like 5-6 episodes in the last season of that? What I'm saying is we need more info.
Jan. 18, 2002, 7:53 p.m. CST
Nickelodeon is basically steered toward kids. If it is true that Zim was cancelled because it was too "dark," that is a legitimate reason from their point of view. I assume most of the people complaining here are adults. I agree that it would fit well in Cartoon Network's Adult Swim, maybe as a replacement for the worthless Aqua Teen Hunger Force. That said, the Zim "Water Balloon" episode was the funniest thing I've seen in months. Can't wait for the DVD collection!!
Jan. 18, 2002, 7:56 p.m. CST
by Girl Genius
Not only did those shit-eating bastards ditch Zim, but they're planning on making a Wild Thornberries movie! A fucking movie out of their worst and most annoying show! Take a look at this: http://www.upcomingmovies.com/wildthornberrys.html If this happens, I'm gonna shoot myself in the face.
Jan. 18, 2002, 8:20 p.m. CST
getting Nick to take back Zim is a moot(or should it be Voot?) point by now....right now, we should be petitioning Cartoon Network to pool some of that wonderful Dragonball revenue, and buy the rights to Zim. And as for the guy above, trust me, hardcore cartoon fans KNOW what "scaling back" means in the tv industry. Batman Beyond got "scaled back" after the ROTJ fiasco, and, oh, where are the new episodes of that? their 4th season was ONE episode, "Curse of the Cobra". The 90's X-Men cartoon got "scaled back"....its final season was one episode too...and that was worse because THAT ONE WAS A FLIPPIN' CLIFFHANGER WHERE PROF. XAVIER DIED, AND MAGNETO TOOK OVER AS LEADER! ARRGH!! Get my point yet? "Scaled back" is more PC, "kindest blow", big business speak for "Your show is fucked, start packin, bitch."I'm done here....Revolution is my name.
Jan. 18, 2002, 10:09 p.m. CST
Let's see... Take on of the most disturbing comic book creators, give him a show for kids, let him create something bizarre(although I hear he has issues with some of the content they change), then can it. None of these are sane decisions. Christ, they bury it in the schedule at 9:30pm on Friday. Who the hell is watching TV on Friday night? Oh yeah, I forgot...us geeks! Let Cartoon Network grab this, please! They'll beat it like the red-headed step child it is.
Jan. 18, 2002, 11:36 p.m. CST
I know the scaling back thing, I'm just hoping.
Jan. 19, 2002, 12:23 a.m. CST
by user id indeed!
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Jan. 19, 2002, 12:44 a.m. CST
I will waste away and die without this show...c'mon Cartoon Network! Prove your animation superiority! I miss you cupcake...
Jan. 19, 2002, 10:41 a.m. CST
by Agent Moth Girl
What the FUCK is wrong with Nickelodeon?! That's practically the only thing I have to say! FUCK!!! If only 'Nny were real we could all stomp over to Nickelodeon studios with him and kill all the fucking assholes who came up with this shit to cancel this show! It was about the only show on Nickelodeon that didn't suck! MY GOD! WHAT A BUNCH OF SCREWED UP PEOPLE! Cartoon Network, USE YOUR BRAIN! It's Nickescrewdeon's loss! THEY WILL GO OUT OF BUSINESS! Now I say again--FUCK!!!!
Jan. 19, 2002, 3:01 p.m. CST
by cold lazarus
From what I hear, staff layoffs have already begun--and for those who know the animation lingo, it's not "hiatus"; staffers are getting severance pay. So the show's done, put a fork in it. Don't get me wrong, I liked the show--I thought it wasn't evil *enough*. But it was amazing that Nick ever picked it up in the first place, given its demographic of preteens. The reason behind the cancellation: I'd imagine a number of factors, including 9-11, Johnen's penchant for diva-like behavior, cost-cutting moves from Viacom, and internal politics among the executives at Nick. As far as Nick giving up ownership of Zim to CN or any other entity, it's not bloody likely. The best that could happen is the show being laterally moved to another part of MTV Networks. But given MTV's recent shutdown of its animation department, it's clear that Viacom/MTV Networks are pretty much out of the animation business, preferring to subcontract its content instead. The recent demise of Daria was another example of MTV choosing to capture the "tweener" market at the expense of its more sophisticated programming, so I wouldn't expect Zim to find a home there. Now, there's no reason that Johnen couldn't develop something new for Cartoon Network or anywhere else, but Zim is owned by Nick and the odds of it ever seeing the light of day anywhere else is slim, no matter how many letter writing campaigns or petitions rise up.
Jan. 19, 2002, 3:47 p.m. CST
I cannot believe that the show was cancelled! And do you people KNOW what I saw on Nickelodeon last week?! Last freakin' Saturday, at, like, one CST. REN AND STIMPY! On the channel that cancelled Invader ZIM!! What is with that?! Can ANYONE tell me?! I, for one, do not get this network at all! Where ARE they coming from? Angry Beavers is still showing in the mornings, Ren and Stimpy comes on, they FIRE the SpongeBob Squarepants crew, and NOW the Invader ZIM cast?! WHY? You would have to be INSANE to cancel a show that popular! People, I don't mean to sound insane, myself, but I went to school last week TWICE dressed as one of the characters. Once I went as ZIM, and another time as TAK, a new character that was supposed to be aired on Valentine's Day! Grargh! And this is what I get for my loyalty! Jhonen, please do NOT let Nick do this to you! Talk to Cartoon Network! I know Nick came to you first, and it'll be a whole lot of legalities goin' on, but please!! And Cartoon Network! Don't pass up this chance! Nick is dropping like a bomb, baby, and you can hit 'em hard! With your ever-popular anime, Tenchi, Dragonball, and Cowboy Bebop, you're already on top, but you can make EVEN MORE!! Everyone loves the little green guy! I've writted twenty or more fictions based on this show, drawn hundreds of pictures, and will but ANY merchandise as soon as I get the money right up to the last penny! I agree with the others, too. Adult Swim is the most perfect place for Invader ZIM. Keep our favorite Irken alive!!
Jan. 19, 2002, 4:15 p.m. CST
Show your support. Cancelled my ass. Go to Nick.com and swamp them with questions about why they held Zim back in a crappy slot, and why they're cancalling the show without giving it a shot. Now's your time to shine fans. It got MST3K back on the air for several seasons and may yet still produce DVD's for sale.
Jan. 19, 2002, 4:43 p.m. CST
CARTOON NETWORK, PLEASE HEAR OUR CRIES!!!! Nick didn't even give the show a chance. On average, they aired it once a week at any random time (usually at night after kids have to go to bed, or on sundays when nobody watches tv, anyway. Sunday was rare, though.) Constantly changing the schedule and only showing it once a week (and sometimes not at all during the week) is NOT, I repeat, NOT the way for a tv show to get popular. It must be played at the same times, on a regular basis. Plus, it wouldn't have hurt for them to actually PROMOTE it a little, would it? They are such idiots. A MESSAGE TO NICK; If you don't want to show Invader Zim anymore, that's your call, but PLEASE, PLEASE have the common decency to release the show to another network to show. PLease don't screw Jhonen, the fans AND yourselves. Don't let the show disappear. Don't let it go to waste. PLEASE, AT LEAST let another station have the show. If you don't either; A)let it be shown on another network. -or- B)continue airing it on your network Myself, and many, many other people will boycott your network. Comedy Central and SCIFI channel both lost a great number of viewers when they cancelled MST3K (Mystery Science Theater 3000). Don't let this happen to you!!! This show has the same kind of devoted fans.
Jan. 19, 2002, 4:51 p.m. CST
I have all of the aired eps of invader zim on vhs. I recorded them myself. However, I'm wondering if there will be episodes that will never see the light of day. If so, I will need to get ahold of them somehow. They never aired the Invader Zim episodes DOOR TO DOOR and FBI WARNING. Does anyone have a bootleg of these, or know of any plans for the release of any such thing on VHS or DVD in the future??? I mean, they REALLY should make a dvd collection of every Invader Zim episode ever made or that was planned to be made, from beginning to end, so hardcore fans can get the rest of the zim story. I WANT TO BUY OR TRADE FOR A COMPLETE COLLECTION OF ZIM EPISODES!!!! Can anyone help me???
Jan. 19, 2002, 5:50 p.m. CST
I am OUTRAGED! This show had everything going for it! But the jerks at Nick are wankers! There were 2 episodes of Spongebob on last night (which I do not like) and 2 episodes of the Fairly Oddparents (which is really good but not as great as Invader Zim). The second problem is that they would schedule Zim at times people are too busy to watch the show. Fridays at 9:30e/8:30c, most parents have to send their kids to bed. Ergo, New York, Boston, DC, Phily, Detroit, Nashville, Atlanta, and Miami are SOL. These are cities with high populations in the Eastern Time Zone. They can barly get an audience from the Cental Time Zone so kiss Chicago, Houston, Dallas, Minnannapolis, Memphis, New Orleans, Millwalkee, Green Bay, Kansas City, and St. Louis goodbye. With the Exception of Los Angeles, the futher west you go, the fewer people you will find to watch the show. Now that there is a East and West feed, the Mountain and Pacific time zones get the same dismile ratings as the Central and Eastern time zones, respectively. Ergo, Denver, Phoenix, Salt Lake City, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, Portland and Seattle are all out of the picture. What about the replay time on Sunday? A post-9-11 America has now devoted more time to going to church. Many churches have 11 am service which draws the largest crowd. Thus posting Zim at 12e/11c makes the chances of finding watch Zim as hard to find as a parking space at the Cathedral. Cartoon Network on the other hand has got it easy. They have Courage the Cowardly Dog (which is great!), the Powerpuff Girls (which has a movie coming out this summer. When I found out they were orginially suppost to be called the Whoop-ass Girls (no kidding, see cartoonnetwork.com for the proof!) I figured what the heck and started watching. Indeed the name Powerpuff sucks. Maybe they should have called them the Woodshed Girls to attract a larger female and male audience.), Dragonball Z, and Space Ghost Coast-to-Coast, The Brak Show, and Dexters Lab. But as far as we all are concerned, the AOL Time Warner network has overshadowed Nick for the past year to the point that Nick's audience has been stamped out. Thought the Fairly Oddparents are Nick's only hope, Cartoon Network is gonna find Zim a nice spot in their prime time line up. The 2 episodes of Dexter should be cut back to 1 pushing the Whoop-ass Girls into the 6:30c time slot and placing Zim at the highly popular 8/7c time slot. -------- A quote from the show to Nick: "I hope you like nightmare worlds!" --Gaz
Jan. 19, 2002, 5:57 p.m. CST
Nick had damned themselves into a nightmare world for which their is NO waking. I hope you like nightmare worlds!
Jan. 19, 2002, 8:54 p.m. CST
Invader Zim is my absolute favorite show on television. I nearly cried when I found out that it got cancelled, and im rather pist about it too. I love Jhonen v. and i wonder if he's mad about it.. my friend was just saying the other day that with zim, he might have had less time to work on JTHM, and i LOVE JTHM, but even so, invader zim was my weekly dosage of happy...and soon it will be all gone...SOME station needs to pick this show up! or im gonna die!!!
Jan. 19, 2002, 11:56 p.m. CST
Let's hope that the words of Carton Network looking to pick up Zim are true. If not, may a horde of space babies crap all over Nick's executives Porsches!
Jan. 20, 2002, 3:30 a.m. CST
so we can get down on our knees and beg them to pick up Invader Zim? Hopefully they're reading this message board as we speak but if they're not, we must make ourselves heard! And the best way to do that is to write them a bunch of kiss-ass, groveling letters and emails begging them to save Zim! I'm willing to do that! Even if it does mean I have to be polite! How bout you? Somebody post a way to contact Cartoon Network on this forum pleeeeeease. I can't find one on their website.
Jan. 20, 2002, 3:41 a.m. CST
and make them feel like complete idiots when they see how many people used to watch their stupid network just for Zim and how many veiwers they lost when they canned it. Because after all, WHAT A BUNCH OF MORONS!!!!!
Jan. 20, 2002, 5:24 a.m. CST
I got a letter from Geocities telling my my account was shut down for a few hours due to heavy traffic and I only put on one episode (It's less impressive when you read the qualifications they assign to it, though). Wow, I've waited a lifetime for a email like that... I haven't gotten around to putting the other episodes up yet in RealVideo (I know, shitty format, but quick for the common user to download).
Jan. 20, 2002, 7:37 a.m. CST
Dangit Nickelodeon, all you air is crap nowadays that look so flat and terrible its un-watch able. And finally, you actually, for ONCE build a great show in a long time. Yes, life is great. This show is wonderful. Its building an empire. Fans are starting to love it, some even are addicted to it. And for once I actually enjoy one show on your channel. Can you believe it? I haven't done so since 'Ren and Stimpy' and 'Rocko's Modern Life' But what do you do? YOU CAN IT!!!! YEAH! JUST LIKE THOSE OTHER RARE SHOWS I USE TO LOVE! And I don't even know why either!! Is it because its dark and different than the rest of your shows aired? Or is it something more?? All I know is I pray that some other network (Cartoon Network!!!) to pick this show up. We need somebody to save this show. It
Jan. 20, 2002, 7:55 a.m. CST
Does anybody have the address of Nickelodeon or e-mail so I can litterally take my anger out on them and explain to them what they really are, deep down inside their hearts? <p> Yeah, that's right. They're morons. Complete morons running a network that they can't control. <p> If you can be so kind, e-mail me at email@example.com and tell me. Trust me, I'll haunt the living crap out of them. It'll be like Gaz wanting that Game Slave 2, only this time its the entire show. I'll show no mercy.
Jan. 20, 2002, 9:28 a.m. CST
Doom.. doom... doom... I just discovered this show (my unnaturally smart and cool 12-year-old turned me on to it) and am heartbroken that these assnozzles would take it away. Grrr! Take me to the weasels!
Jan. 20, 2002, 11:47 a.m. CST
by dib Iggins
No way. Nuh uh. This can't be happening. No. Last time I asked Jhonen...the new eps were in Febuary. And.....you know what? I think I'll go CatDog I'm so depressed.
Jan. 20, 2002, 3:30 p.m. CST
Like so many others, I'm appalled at this. And I agree that a superior network *cough*Cartoon Network*cough* should pick up the series. If money is an issue, there are enough fans out there starved of merchandise who will provide a healthy return. Dammit Nick, why are you such ass monkeys? If this is about 9/11, they're going the wrong way about it. Perhaps they're unhappy with the underlying connections between western civilisation and the Irkens, who both wish to dominate the known universe? Learn to laugh at yourselves people. Or maybe Zim is too sophisticated for Nick's other pathetic dribble, and they want to stick to their narrow target audience? How many more babies can Rugrats have before everyone stops watching?
Jan. 20, 2002, 4:34 p.m. CST
Thank you Nickelodeon. Now what am I supposed to do on Friday nights? Notice how these guys can't seem to handle a good show? Angry Beavers didn't last long either and that's just about the only good show I can remember ever playing on this particular station. I don't know, I could never get into SpongeBob (all the kids at my school are obsessive about this show which I find reeeaaallly annoying). I hope Cartoon Network realizes this show's potential and picks it up. It's obvious now that good ol' Nick is being run by a bunch of toddlers who just can't grow up even a bit.
Jan. 20, 2002, 4:40 p.m. CST
Just had to put in that Aaah! Real Monsters was a great show too before I started getting hate mail or something. Oh wait a minute... Nick cancelled that to. So why did I bother?
Jan. 20, 2002, 4:42 p.m. CST
The reason Invader Zim, Spongebob, and 2 other shows are being dropped has everything to do with 16 out of 19 writers signing union cards. There is no unionization in the animation industry, and Nickelodeon means to keep it that way. <A HREF="http://www.dailynews.com/business/articles/0801/31/BIZ01.asp>Nick staffers demand union representation</A> There was a story on yahoo! news last week that made the link clearer, but I can no longer find it. -- <A HREF="http://iww.org/>Industrial Workers of the World</A>
Jan. 20, 2002, 6:30 p.m. CST
Big question is, where is Zim produced ? If it's produced in-house within Nick, the chances of it getting picked up by another network are furthermore reduced. But if it's produced by an independant studio, the chances at least are pushed up slightly... And wait -- didn't Disney buy 'Doug' from Nick ?
Jan. 20, 2002, 6:32 p.m. CST
After all, Viacom owns Paramount too, don't they ? Then again, UPN did drop Dilbert quite a while ago, so it's possible they may be out of the animation department altogether.
Jan. 20, 2002, 8:25 p.m. CST
by Invader Deb
I am so SAD at hearing that this show might be cancelled. To anyone out there, I heard that Jhonen is saying it won't be cancelled unless he didn't want to work on it anymore, or if the voice actors didn't want 2 work on it anymore. But I can't be sure. I love this show! It wasn't on long enough, and I feel that a part of my life has been cut short. I truly hope that even after Nick has shown all the new episodes, that they will continue to show it anyway at least, or maybe make more episodes someday, in the distant future. Like they have done for some other shows. Or I hope that Cartoon Network will take this show!! Please, help ZIM! Sign petitions. Maybe if everyone works together, we can do something about this. If anyone wants to say something to me, you can e-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.org I would be glad to get e-mail. STAND TOGETHER FOR ZIM!!!!!!!
Jan. 20, 2002, 9:15 p.m. CST
Ok. I'm not saying that Im not heart broken because of ZIM being cancled. I couldn't be more disturbed. But we have to think about this for a seconed. I mean, what if it isn't all the big boogy man Nickalodian. What if Johnen wanted to go back to comics? What if it was all HIS idea? Think about it. Though, I myself dont belive it, its STILL possable. What do I think happened. I think that the all crappy Nick couldn't handle ZIM. Maybe the old bosses could, but not these wusses. You know, the one's who turned a halve decent network into one big fat six year old, who craves to see the same things over and over.
Jan. 20, 2002, 11:32 p.m. CST
by Cajun Lightning
HotTopic sells it. Hottopic.com Maybe this will ease your pain and suffering.
Jan. 21, 2002, 12:14 a.m. CST
by cold lazarus
It sounds right that Nick's moves to bust the writers' movement to unionize may have led to the studio ending a number of their in-house productions, including Invader Zim. (I hear that Steve Hillenberg pulled the plug on Spongebob for personal reasons, though.) Nickelodeon's animation artists are also non-union, as are a number of smaller studios in Hollywood (including Klasky Csupo, Nick's biggest contractor). It's unfortunate that during a time when the animation industry is in a recession and so many artists are out of work, studios have full leverage *not* to unionize their artists or writers. The union movements may have contributed to the net's decision to simply contract from KC and others to keep the notorious bottom line down. But honestly? That's probably not going to change anytime soon, while my brothers and sisters in the industry continue to juggle their budgets to weather the lean times. As for Johnen, I wouldn't feel bad for him--he made a shitload of money for Zim, and he's certainly attracted the attention of the animation community that he'll be picked up somewhere, for sure. I'd feel bad instead for the various artists, directors, revisionists and other creative people who do what's considered the grunt work in animation and are therefore the most expendable. It's they who are going to suffer the most for Nick essentially closing its doors to virtually all its productions (Fairly Oddparents is the only show left). It just means less available positions for an increasing number of unemployed artists.
Jan. 21, 2002, 12:33 a.m. CST
by cold lazarus
The sitch at Nick is that, not everyone is of one mind there. Obviously, certain producers believed in Johnen's product, and some did not. There is something of a typical (for Hollywood) power struggle going on within the network between a certain female producer who favors character-driven properties, and another producer who favors gag-driven stuff like Oddparents and Catdog. Guess who's winning? You probably shouldn't expect network execs to behave rationally, anyway. It's all about ego and self-interest and working to undermine someone else's baby to the benefit of your own.
Jan. 21, 2002, 12:48 a.m. CST
Hey - Jhonen says it's not cancelled and I'll sit back and wait and see what happens. He also says that they didn't show Zim this past Friday, (1/18) as they only have a few eps and didn't want to play them to death. (Thank God) Nick has put a Y7 rating on the show which may put off viewers and sponsers, or it may attract them, it's a razor's edge there. After SpongeBob's first season they did the same thing with that show, you couldn't find it for a while, and when you did it was the same eps over and over and over until the new one's came out. Buffy the Vampire Slayer went through the same rumors repeatedly, especially last season when the show switched networks. Even though Whedon, (the shows creator), was telling everybody the show was continuing there were some very dull people who were convinced it was cancelled, and the rumors continue. So, I'm going to continue to go to the Zim site on Nick so that it has some activity and Nick will have tangible proof people care about it, as well as emailing Nick, and trying to get Zim on-line trading cards. Doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom.... clattu
Jan. 21, 2002, 1:54 a.m. CST
Well, here's two things I want to say. First, Zim going off the air won't be a major disappointment because Jhonen's OTHER works (*cough*) are better, and I have the whole series on my computer anyway, so I can watch it whenever I want. Second, I think I am the only person in my age group that finds SpongeBob to be "low" humour. It's a terrible show! Sure, some of it makes me grin, but most of it is just one hackneyed cliche' joke after another. It's pathetic.
Jan. 21, 2002, 4:28 a.m. CST
by Captain Comicz
Dude you made my day, and said it much better than I did! "SHIT-SWALLOWING PIGEON-FUCKERS!!!!!" Oh yeah, you read my mind!
Jan. 21, 2002, 7:24 a.m. CST
I don't know where you heard that, as I heard something very different from someone who works for Nick (or worked). Hopefully I'm not going to sound like a broken record repeating shit you already know here, but hey. Word is that the show was pulled because of CONTENT. Apparently Jhonen Vasquez had a meeting with the producers, who were uncomfortable with some of the more bizarre elements in the show (as you may know, they've had to censor & rework a few episodes), and in the resulting dispute Vasquez snapped at them, and they--pulling a corporate powertrip--vindictively cancelled the show right there. No completing a full season, no next season, no two week notice. Nearly the entire staff was told to clear out their offices by the next week, with only a few remaining to finish the episodes they were working on. Pretty fucked up...
Jan. 21, 2002, 2:07 p.m. CST
by Dr. B. Quest
That's pretty much the truth. zim was cancelled because the Producers hated DIB and the content, especially after 9 - 11. The producers hated Dib, and demanded that there be no more episodes that feature him.. at all. They wanted to lock down the show to only the skool, and forego any scenes in outer space, or other parts of town. Jhonen was annoyed. and the studio pretty much let go the staffers that day. Since the only way to get a show in Nick is to let Viacom own it, zim will not be seen anywhere else, except maybe on VH1, because Cartoon Network is the competition. Tape and enjoy, and mourn it's passing. besides jhonen has more and better stuff coming up.. even if it's just comics.
Jan. 21, 2002, 2:52 p.m. CST
Well, Zim was brilliant while it lasted. It's unfortunate that things of quality don't seem to last long in this day and age.
Jan. 21, 2002, 3:50 p.m. CST
... doesn't Viacom also have a piece of Comedy Central ? I could Zim there, can't you ?
Jan. 21, 2002, 4:30 p.m. CST
I don't see why it's not considered a children's show. My 6-year-old little sister watches it, and she loves it. She may not get it most of the time, but it doesn't affect her in any way. If they think it should be removed because of what happened on Sept. 11th, they might as well remove any shows that have any violence in them at all. I couldn't find ANY Zim merchandise except for a few t-shirts at the local hot topic store, which was probably why the cartoon wasn't so lucrative and viewed. I'm suprised they can say that it screws with kids' minds when there are much more damaging (Those stupid singers they bring on the show i.e. Aaron Carter, Dreamstreet, all that crap). I don't see why they replace all the good shows like Zim and the Angry Beavers with the stupid ones such as Rocket Power, Wild Thornberries, Rugrats, etc.
Jan. 22, 2002, 2:15 p.m. CST
"Hey, I too was a former workerbee at Nickel-and-Dime-alodeon and I'm here to say that Zim isn't getting pulled due to poor ratings... its ratings are just as good as any other show on the network. It's all about the content, especially post-9/11 terrorism. Nick NY feels the show is too edgy and dark and will inspire school shootings and other bullshit. It's the same reason they cancelled my pilot -- watch it now at http://members.aol.com/cancerous/payne.html One second they loved it and were going to do 26 episodes, on the 12th of September they hated it and didn't want to put on a show where Bad People do Bad Things. Stupid. Angry Beavers, then Spongebob, and now Zim... soon it will be the all-Rugrats channel." O! Well-adjusted lovers of Zim, does this not strike to the very core of your being, that Nickelodeon execs would so insult our judgement and character that they pretend _ratings_ were the cause of Zim's demise? Does to me. I'm as normal as you can get, and to suggest that I'd go on a school-shooting simply because I'd watched an episode of Zim (*gasp* Edginess?! Hilarity?! Creativity?! Dear God, protect us from such evil . . . things!) is preposterous. Please show your support of Zim, mainly by signing the petition:http://www.petitiononline.com/izlovers/petition.html. Only, please refrain from your average Talkback talk-- I don't think they'd be too pleased.
Jan. 23, 2002, 7:38 p.m. CST
and that reason is: discrimination! i swear, that's what i think. i mean, it was on NICK for God's sake! and the fact that Jhonen is a "cult icon" . . . the fact that Invader Zim stuff would only be sold at Hot Topic . . . it was canceled because nick feared the unfamiliar - namely, the punks, goths and the like who make up most of the Invader Zim audience. i'm surprised that i haven't found anyone else saying this . . . i feel it's a pretty obvious answer. i myself am a devoted Zim fan, but also a "punk". it's people like me that make nick afriad to put shows like Zim on. the network is, alas, dedicated to kids and the fact that older people that are punks and goths make up at least 70% of the Zim audience mack staffers there nervous. there's no way nick will put Zim back on the air . . . ever. somebody needs a hug . . . & i think that somebody is me . . .
Jan. 24, 2002, 6:31 p.m. CST
by freakled lioness
does nick even realize how many of the veiwers watch them for invader zim. well fuck nick they weren't worthy enough to show invader zim in the first place. cartoon network pick it up with there nice selection of anime and adult swim there a perfect channel for a sci-fi like cartoon such as invader zim. first ren and stimpy and now this the people who run nick are just a bunch off bloody no taste idiots. god i'm pissed off i just want to be sorronded by jhonen vasquez stuff that hasnt been cancelled i'm goin to go read johnny the homicidal maniac.
Feb. 2, 2002, 12:35 a.m. CST
I may be legally a minor, but I care about the fate of Zim as well. At my school Invader Zim has a following of its own. We despise SpongeBob and his threat to our otherwise happy world of dark scenery and robot dogs. Nickolodeon is making a huge mistake by dropping a show with this sort ot potentially. Everyone can recognize it. The thought that Zim could "provoke violence" is sheer proraganda. I mean, sure sometimes Zim can be a little sick and twisted, but that's what makes it so appealing! It's not going to candy coat the way things are, it shows that hey, humans are pretty gross people. The plots of the show are always intricate and inticing. The animation is stunning, to throw away such a masterpeice would be a waste! I know everyone would love to see Cartoon Network pick it up, but the chances of it are a billion to one. Nick needs more Zim promo, cut some of the lame shows they have, (this is going out to you butt ugly martians, and fairly oddparents!) and move Zim from the idiot time slot. Zim is the koolest ever. We'll mourn the loss of it, but if I lose my favorite cartoon someone (Nickelodeon) is going to have hell to pay. Everyone sign the petition and if you can whine to the network. Go sign on to Nick.com and go complain through the Zim section of the page. Heck, get your kids to whine, go ask your mother-in-law to send something. All I can say is I'll miss you, Gir!!!!
Feb. 17, 2002, noon CST
All the Episodes from the first season of Zim (even those not aired in the US!) can be found by users sharing their files on Morpheus! Morpheus is a free file-sharing application and can be found at www.musiccity.com. And now for my contribution to this whole Zim mess... The need for Zim marches through my veins like giant RADIO-ACTIVE RUBBER PANTS! The pants command me, DO NOT IGNORE MY VEINS!! ...Surely something so popular among the masses can't just be dropped and forever forgotten about... someone has to pick it up again. ...We hope... :/ I can see why it was cancelled from Nick though, since Nick is so into "Quality programming" these days... child-oriented, gross animation, redundant plots, and mundane characters. Yes, quality indeed... Zim would fare quite well on Cartoon Network, MTV, or even Sci-fi. Yaknow, places that mostly have a diverse selection of shows to watch through the day. Jhonen is a pure genius, ZIM CANNOT DIE! DOOM doom doom... the end! ooh, whassat? ::runs away to play with something shiney::
Feb. 20, 2002, 11:10 a.m. CST
Er.. forgot to mention... the movie files that can be found on morpheus, most of them require a divx codec to play them.. so if you have problems playing the movies you download, search for, download, and install Div X installer avi movies.exe Now go forth and partake in the Zim goodness on Morpheus!
Feb. 20, 2002, 9:56 p.m. CST
Bad Nick! Bad! No bone for you! First you cancel Ren and Stimpy, then Rocko, then Ahh! Real Monsters, then Angry Beavers!? What's wrong with you!? When you finally get some cool shows, you go off and cancel them! Bad dog! Heh, sorry, had to get that off my chest. My friends and I are petitioning against the cancellation of Zimmy. They're bound to listen to us, after all, we're Kids. All of you adults out there sitting on your computers complaining and saying how much your kids love the show, have them write their own petition letters and get them and their friends to sign it! heck, I'll even give you the address to send your letters! Nickelodeon 1515 Broadway New York, NY 10036 Petition! Petition! Floss Often! Buy Invader Zim Stuff! Buy JTHM stuff! Buy Squee! Buy the Director's cut of JTHM, even if you have the regular comic series! Buy Squee's Big book of Unspeakable Horrors! Buy I feel Sick! Buy Anything to support Jhonen when he falls from Nick! He's a starving artist! Save Jhonen Vasquez!!!!! Watch Invader Zim every time it comes on! heck, turn three or four of your T.V.'s on at the same time to boost ratings!
March 13, 2002, 6:49 p.m. CST
How dare they leave a show like Spongebob Squarepants and butt-ugly martians on Nick and cancel a decent show like Invader Zim!?!? Nickelodeon has gone to hell in a handbasket. Sure zim was a little gross, but at least it was better than that damn Rocket power BS! Do you realize how much i hate Rocket Power?!?! And they are keeping rugrats on, which seems to suck more each episode(WHY!?!). I hope CN cares enough to try to take Zim and put it on their station. F*CK YOU NICK!
March 22, 2002, 11:37 a.m. CST
Stupid People: I would ask you to keep in mind that this should not be a source of moral guidance (that would be movies). Put away the knifes and never allow yourself to forget: You are stupid. The best some people can hope for is to better manage their damage. We think we can live away from what we hate, but are defined by those very things, it feeds upon us... Sustained by our belife that we are doing something right. We think we are so great in our protests... But we just become the bitter offspring of what we oppose. We are prisoners in our own cages. * from jthm * also found at http://www.rpi.edu/~mcguij2/jthm/quotes.html
March 22, 2002, 11:47 a.m. CST
Muhahahahaha...I hope Nick loses billions and billions and billions of dinero for this... Poor Jhonen. I don't like t.v. and cartoons but I totally loved Invader ZIM. This totally sucks.
March 22, 2002, 5:48 p.m. CST
Let's just face the fact. Nick isn't just a network targeted towards kids...it's a network targeted towards the hip-hop kids. (Preppies..) Observe most of their shows. Rocket Power. That uses all of the new "rad" words, such as "rad", "dude", "lame-o", and etc. etc. And As Told By Ginger, that's about a girl who wants to be a preppy. And Butt Ugly Martians, also targeted towards that group. Most of their other shows, too. Just think about it. Nick isn't doing anything really wrong, just trying to hit the majority. And the majority are kids who want to be popular and think geeks are lame. You know the type. If Nick showed all the dark shows, then they would loose their majority. Listen, most of the people I know are usually somewhere around 10 - 16 who like Invader ZIM. Me? I'm only 12. I'm, infact, a nerd, geek, whatever they want to call it, who wants to stay that way. And I have the same opinion as everyone else. This sucks. Nick sucks. But like I said, look at the reasons above. Watch more of Nick sometime, you'll see how it is. Notice how on their video things and commercials and that Slime Time Live...pop bands dominate and perform. Would you ever expect to see Limp Bizkit on there screaming out his lounges? And also, not only is Nick targeted towards the hip-hop kids, but they want to make it viewable for the parents. Think about it. ZIM is about an alien trying to take over the world. Now what do some moms see in this? "Oh, this show is so bad! This MAY encourage my kid to do bad things...". But what do we see? "Whoa! This show rocks! So oringinal..". Understand? Now, what about Dark Harvest...the episode in which ZIM steals all the organs??? This is what some moms see. "Ew..that is SO gross and sickining, how could Nick ever SHOW something like this to children!? " What we see.."Whoa....how could Nick show this!? This is cool! Nick went insane...this is so creative for a cartoon plot!" Get the drift?? See, if Nick put out all dark shows, not only it would loose the majority of the kids, but also loose the respect from most parents today. So, this is why ZIM has been cancelled. We can try to stop it. But like I said above, Nick is a network targeted for hip-hop kids, not us geeks and nerds/lame-os, whatever they want to call it. - This is Kip, from Lunar-freefall.net signing off. - P.S. Invader ZIM is a show about an alien from a planet called Irk getting sent to a random planet because he desperately wants to go invade something, and the rulers of Irk, The Almighty Tallest, send him to some random planet, happening to be Earth. There he encounters very many insane adventures, and always is in rivalry with Dib, the paranormal-obsessed-geek who knows ZIM is an alien.
March 23, 2002, 9:15 p.m. CST
What happened to the good shows of nickelodeon? Come one, Rocko's Modern Life, Ren and Stimpy... Doug. All the shows now... well they suck. No humor. Finally they come out with one thats really original and funny... AND THEY CAN IT?! Well I hope when they do... ZIM gets picked up by Cartoon Network. At least then it would be among shows that are funny and not targeted to one audience in particular. Support our tiny Irkin!
April 6, 2002, 4:08 p.m. CST
I have to get this outta my system before I kill my little brother... You are being total dumb-ass, boring little butt-fuckers for cancelling Zim! You know that when Zim was on, the ratings were great! Your just probably mad cuz the people who own the predictable, too many characters, and has no real plott and way too many movies RUGRATS are mad cuz everyone likes Zim more than that fucking show!And you cancelled all the other REALLY good shows that everyone loved. EVERYONE loved ren and stimpy, what was wrong with that?! and Angry Beavers?! there was no evil in that what-so-ever, though the name was "angry" beavers. It was pure comedy! But, you still seem to think that people like the retarded, cant talk until he's over 2 years old, mother-fucker rugrats! NOBODY likes the show! Then you keep showing old episodes of Doug, which nobody watches. So let me get this all straight... You showed for a gazillion years, Bugs bunny, where the characters repeativly tries to push them over cliffs, shoot guns at eachother, be plain old mean and evil, but you wont show a GREAT
April 7, 2002, 8:03 p.m. CST
I can't believe that they are cancelling Invader ZIM! That show is the best. They should show it on VH1, or even MTV, because they are all owned by the same company, and I saw my beloved Ren and Stimpy on there awhile ago.I started watching it over the summer, when my brother was watching Spongebob, and that came on. I even named my website after the Vampire Piggies that Gaz has to kill in her video games. I saw the new episode on Friday, and it was funny as hell. Well, hopefully Jhonen will do something like a JtHM show, or movie. Nick always cans the good shows, like Ren and Stimpy, Angry Beavers, AHHH! Real Monsters, and Rocko's Modern Life. Hey, maybe ZIM shall come on DVD, to make all of us fans and Jhonen obsessors happy. Besides, Cartoon Network should put ZIM on during Adult Swim along with Cowboy Bebop, Pilot Candiate, and all of those other great shows. And if the rumors of Spongebob being cancled are true, I think I'll join my fellow Chickzrockers (a site whose message board contains most of my friends) on the planet Irk, with ZIM so we can unleash Operation Impending Doom III on Nickelodeon.
April 20, 2002, 11:06 a.m. CST
You guys, listen up. daktt and a lot of you other people are sitting here saying how Zim is a show for 20 somethings! This is so not true, I'm 15 and my friends and i love this show to death. Now, they are currently airing new episodes every friday at 9:30, there are a couple of ways you can help keep it here. 1) WATCH IT! You say you love it, so watch it. If they see they've got high ratings, they'll make new episodes. 2) DO SOMETHING! I'm the opinion editor of my school newspaper, so while not everyone is able to do something like what i did, you can do others. I wrote an entertainment story on Invader Zim, telling people how great it is, what time it comes on, and to watch it. It's stuff like this that get's people to notice the show. Nick won't give it attention, so you'll have to instead. While we may feel like whining to death, this won't get you anywhere. It just annoys people and might actually make them want to get rid of the show even more. watch it and do something about it. that's all i'm saying.
June 16, 2002, 1:28 a.m. CST
Well see i love Invader Zim, i sleep, eat, breathe, and live Invader Zim. If Zim gets cancelled, it would be like taking my only source of humor away, I even have a GIR plushie I put of my drawer sometimes. I am such a fan i act like some of the characters, and say their lines sometimes. Even if Zim is canclelled, it should go out in a bang, like a movie or something. Maybe Jhonen could continue it in comic form or something, or cartoon network could take it and put it on ccf (Cartoon Cartoon Fridays for people who don't watch Cartoon Network.) If Jhonen does continue it in comic form, he could finally make it the way he probably wanted in the beginning, he could make it more violent and put in some swearing, I mean Nick set too many rules for him to follow by. So many of us don't want Zim to be cancelled. I also heard a rumor that they are cancelling the channel, don't write back to me saying this is wrong, this is only a rumor. "I love this show"-GIR
June 16, 2002, 2:12 a.m. CST
I heard that they are making a Second Wild thornberry movie/ third rugrat movie called the rugrats meet the wild thornberries, which is something i would hate to see come out. They are going to make a movie about two shows that really really suck. They would keep two crappy shows, Wild Thornberries and rugrats, two shows that should have been cancelled years ago, but cancel one good one.
July 8, 2002, 10:16 p.m. CST
If so could you make a copy and send me one? I'll give you $10.00...thanks
July 22, 2002, 2:28 p.m. CST
Look all the shows on Nick are all about perfect people living in a perfect world. For Jhonen the world is not perfect, the world will never be perfect. In Jhonen's eyes you see darkness, dead things, and stuff. In Nick's Eyes you see perfection, goodness, and flowers, blah, blah, blah. No one wants to see that. I agree with most of the people. I think that Nick only picks shows they want to watch, not what the audience wants to watch. Nick doesn't care. One of my favorite shows was Kablam, i loved that show, i watched it every time it was on. I watched Rocko's Modern life but they cancelled that. They cancelled the good shows but kept the bad, and now they are making movies of a the terrible shows, ex: Wild Thornberry movie.
Aug. 31, 2002, 1:54 p.m. CST
I'm obsessed with Zim quite a bit myself. Most of every penny I get goes to JV stuff. I was sad, if not, enfuriated when I heard that Zim was getting cancelled. Nick has lost all it's greatness to me. I agree with most of your opinions, but life moves on. I doubt any other network will pick Zim up. I hope not MTV especially. But think of it this way, new JV comics! Isn't that enough compenasation?
Sept. 4, 2002, 1:52 p.m. CST
its easy as boycotting nick as soon as it goes of the air if they dont do anything they will lose all of thier money cn will buy it and make billions of dollers
Nov. 14, 2002, 2:08 p.m. CST
by gir rules
im so mad that they took zim off. zim made me laugh my head off. no other nick show can make me laugh like that.there is only one other show on nick that i like and that is sponge bob but its still not as good as zim and gir.cuz i love gir he so stupit its funny. and sometime gir remindes me of me , but ONLY sometimes.i will dearly miss gir and zim.
March 15, 2003, 10:31 a.m. CST
That show should still be on nickleodeon, but the moroff's (worse than a moron) at nickle odeon canned zim. I loved that show!!!
March 15, 2003, 10:40 a.m. CST
kids should have the right to choose if nickleodeon cancles zim I mean that the shows are for kids and teens and they have been cancleing shows without telling us which realy honks me off!!!!
July 9, 2003, 8:57 p.m. CST
I am ZIM! You must follow ZIM! Obey the fist.... I love Zim...so keep up the petition!!! I don't want it taken off the air! :-)
July 21, 2003, 11:53 p.m. CST
Okay. Nick has done it again. Cancelling one of its best shows and leaving on other stupid ones and call it entertainment. Maybe it's entertainment for other people but not to Invader ZIM fans. Anyway, I was skimming through other ZIM websites that kids made and they make it sound like there's nothing that can bring it back. Quotes: "ZIM cancelled? Yep! Looks like it's true!" "This episode is canned. IT WILL NOT AIR" "There's nothing to do i mean Jhonen's sick of it and the crew won't come back" "Just leave the show alone. NICK will never show it anyway" ...and much more. Those kind of people are NOT zim fans, even though they THINK they are. They don't know that from what they said made some kids give up on cancelling zim. So even though they want the show back, they're makin it worse. ...and they think they're fans. Tch... I made some petitions: "TAKE NICK OFF THE AIR" (helps nick get low ratings) http://www.petitiononline.com/gdjrjry5/petition.html _________________________________ "SHOW THE SEASON 2 ZIM FINALE" (hour-long finale of zim, cancelled by the idiotic NICK) http://www.petitiononline.com/irkens/petition.html ********************************* So SIGN!!!
Aug. 27, 2007, 12:01 p.m. CST
Nick is the dumbest channel I have EVER watched. The wild thorn berries is just retarded who the hell would live on a rusty bus for life!? Shows like Invader Zim is what makes people actually watch Nick! I don't care who picks this up except maybe mtv because any cartoons on mtv get bagged after only a short period but it's better than nothing! so help me im going to adultswim.com and i will request that they add invader zim! i will tell them my friends love the show and that id they gave it some time it might even be their best show! please! if you want invader zim back, contact adult swim and request that they pic up invader zim!
Aug. 10, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST
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