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Ted Demme passes away

Published at:  Jan 14, 2002 3:20:24 PM CST

Harry here... I had to sleep on this one. I got the news that Ted Demme passed away at around 5 a.m. this morning. The first couple of emails said simply that Ted had died of a heart attack at the age of 38. Tears instantly flowed.



I've known Ted Demme for going on 4 years now. He would read the site and send in comments and criticisms about what it was we did. He'd send in emails excitedly talking about a good day he had had shooting whatever the film was that he was shooting at the time. Ted was a great guy.



Everybody has different opinions about his films. However, Ted Demme was a great guy. He loved films. He would pop online around 1 am most every night on AOL Instant Messenger and he'd start chatting about flicks. He was working on a documentary about the great 70's Filmmaking. He was interviewing tons of folks, and was so excited about documenting a history behind the decade of film that so completely made him want to make movies.



Ted loved the film JAWS insanely. He and Quint would chat about that for hours. In all... Ted was simply one of the nicest most down to earth guys I knew in the industry.




The vast majority of the time I knew him was quite casual. Just a couple of emails. Then he made BLOW. I was in Los Angeles on other business and he and I had chatted so he decided to show me, Moriarty and Henchman Mongo BLOW... Months before it came out.



The screening was in the New Line screening room and when we first walked in and sat down, none of us were particularly enthused to be watching that film. Ted wasn't one of my favorite filmmakers, but he was good people. There's a difference and once you begin meeting and forming friendships in the industry you have to know that difference. However, in all the time that we had known one another, he had never sent me a script, never sent a film to be screened early. So this was the first time that I'd not only meet him in person, but the first time he wanted me to see something of his well before release.



It was so far and above anything he had done thus far in his career. I liked some of his earlier films, but I loved this film. Loved it something fierce. And absolutely I stand behind my preference to BLOW over GOODFELLAS... Mainly because I like the characters in BLOW, there is a sense of warmth to them and because you can feel that the director loves George Jung. I never really get the sense that Scorsese even liked a single one of the characters in GOODFELLAS, that's why I prefer the SOPRANOS to GOODFELLAS... I just like that the people making the show like the characters they are filming.



Right now as I think about BLOW, a film I haven't seen since I hosted a screening of it at the Paramount theater during SXSW last year. Well, I can't help but think of the scene between Johnny Depp and Franka Potente, where she tells him she can't wait for him while he's in prison. That she was going to die early. How that moment was delivered in silence. Just our eyes on Depp and on Potente... Death isn't about the words, but the emotions, that instant lip tremble, that relaxing of the eye area as though through a great sigh.



After I flipped for his film, we were in contact a lot more. Definitely on a weekly basis, sometimes more. He had such hopes for this film he was going to make with Ewan MacGregor. He loved the documentary he was working on.



I truly felt that BLOW was a career turning point for Demme. I knew that he would be on a higher road filmmaking wise. The documentary on Seventies Filmmakers was also changing him. He was even more invigorated to make films that challenged his audience in a way we don't get anymore.



I mourne Ted Demme not only for the friend whose phone number I must erase from my cel phone, whose email and IM names I must erase from my computers... but also the filmmaker that he was becoming and aspiring to be.



He died of a heart attack in Los Angeles while playing in a charity basketball game... a sport he loved. Doing good to the end. This is the first time that I write an obit for a filmmaker that I knew very well... I hope it is the last that I have to write. This hurts too much. Be safe everyone.



Here's Moriarty



I had the opportunity to meet Ted Demme twice, once at a screening of BLOW, and once at POLITICALLY INCORRECT. We chatted many, many times, though, and as I sit here trying to understand how a 38 year old filmmaker who seemed to be turning yet another corner professionally is suddenly not here anymore, I think it's most important to remember this:

Ted Demme loved movies. He loved making movies. More importantly, he loved talking about movies. He was genuine and unbridled in his enthusiasm, and that enthusiasm was infectious.

I am deeply saddened and shocked by this loss, and my sympathies go out to Ted's lovely wife, his family, and the many, many friends he leaves behind. His passing will be felt, and his passion will be remembered.

Godspeed, Ted, and as I head back to bed, it is the voice of Ian McKellan I hear in my head right now:

"Many that live deserve death, and some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo?"

God, I wish.

Moriarty


Here's Quint...






I first met Ted Demme in late March of last year. New Line had set up a very short phone interview to promote Demme's underrated BLOW. The interview was a lot of fun and is, in my opinion, one of the better interviews I've been able to bring you folks. Having said that, I had very little to do with it. An interview can only be as good as the person being interviewed. Ted not only appreciated my laidback interview style, he played around with it, enjoying the break from the monotony that is a press junket . Here's an example taken from the interview... I think it showcases his sense of humor quite well:

[Ted on his personal attachment to his film, BLOW] "I've just been working so hard on this film because I've had it for, you know, 6 years now. Its been one of those labors, you know. Having produced it and seeing the whole thing from inception, I've just been working so hard in getting it out."

Having to fucking beat Morgan Freeman's Fucking movie (laughs) [KISS THE GIRLS]. We'll be in the theater until Pearl Fucking Harbor comes and invades us, you know... or The Mummy takes over the planet."

My only regret with the interview is we only had 15 minutes. We finished up with a promise to later do a more in-depth interview.

After the interview, we stayed in constant contact via AOL's Instant Messenger, emails and the occasional phone call. He actually got me one or two good scoops for you guys. But the talk was never centered soley around business. For whatever reason we just saw the world through the same lens, had a similar sense of humor. In short, we liked bullshitting around with each other.

I journied to LA a few times since having met him and each time we almost got together, but then he'd find out he was shooting a video in New York, or he'd be working on signing Ewan McGregor and Heath Ledger to his newest film and we'd miss each other or I'd be supremely busy and not even think about trying to fit another thing in on that trip.

I never thought much of it. He was a young guy, he showed great talent and was a wonderful human being. Next time I was called to LA, I was sure we were going to meet up. As a matter of fact, he had invited me to come down to the Carribean and spend some time with him and watch him shoot Nautica.

Now, an hour after hearing of his death, I regret with almost all of my being that I never picked up that phone when we could have arranged a meeting, that I never got to meet him in the flesh. It's selfish, I know, but grief is selfishness. You don't mourn for the friend or loved one lost, you mourn the fact that you'll never get to talk to them again, that you'll never see them smile or laugh or be a smartass again. You mourn what you have missed or will miss by their absence. That's where I find myself now.

Ted was a very talented filmmaker who I'm sure had even better things in store for us in the future. To those that knew him or only knew his work he will be forever in our hearts and in our thoughts.

My condolences go out to Ted's friends and family, especially his wife and children. He was as proud a father as I've ever seen, bombarding me with Instant Messages the day his second child, Dexter Demme, was born.. about a month ago.

I'd like to leave you folks with a repost of the link to the interview I did with Ted. I'm not posting this as a show-off or as anything to booster my ego. This is all about Ted. Please give it a read and feel Ted's warmth as well as his humor.

You can read it here: CLICK HERE

Here's to Ted. I'm gonna miss you, bro.

-Quint

email: I can't think of anything funny right now...



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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:25:30 PM CST

    FIRST? but i don't care...why...

    by wonderboy3678

    we have lost a great man...let us all think fondly of his memory and say a prayer for him today. Godspeed Ted.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:26:09 PM CST

    ...

    by tenguman

    Wow. I can't believe it. I feel like the higher-ups just screwed up on this one. He shouldn't have died yet. So young, so much talent. It would be an understatement to say that he will be missed by many.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:27:02 PM CST

    :(

    by shaithis77

  • Jan 14, 2002 3:28:36 PM CST

    Nice Harry. @

    by rubycanoe

  • Jan 14, 2002 3:28:50 PM CST

    :(

    by waylayer

  • Jan 14, 2002 3:29:15 PM CST

    Ted Demme

    by bluebomm

    what a shame. evidence of his passion and enthusiasm, I'll hazard to say, seeped beyond those that knew him well. as an audience member, I think it was clear to any attentive filmgoer that with "Blow," Demme was referencing a lot of movies that he genuinely, truly loved and respected. I'm positive that he still had his best film ahead of him, and it's really too bad we won't ever get to see it. plus, now, who's gonna rescue Paul Reubens?

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:29:59 PM CST

    wow

    by bustafart

    speechless :(

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:30:39 PM CST

    "BLOWN" away...

    by bigtuba

    Another super talent, fetched away WAY too early.

    Godspeed Ted.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:31:22 PM CST

    Is Ted Jonathan Demme's brother?

    by dannychico

    This is really sad. I liked blow. And LIFE. Is Jonathan his brother?

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:31:29 PM CST

    Devestated, and depressed

    by justoneoftheguys

    A very cool man, a great person....I had the pleasure of crossing paths with him. jeez

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:33:39 PM CST

    no, no, no

    by mgthedj

    Ted Demme was good, really good. I loved "Blow". My condolences to his family and friends. I have nothing more to add. I'm speechless.-----m

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:34:52 PM CST

    What a loss...

    by seattlecinemaguy

    We lost a really fine film director last night, but more importantly, we lost a tremendous fan of film, and a great guy. Of these, the latter are more rare.

    Ted was young. I met him several years ago, and had the chance to talk with him at lenght on film for more than a hour. He's a person any one of us would have liked. I'm not a fan boy..I'm saying it because I met the guy, and I shook his hand, and could look him in the eye, and you could tell what a tremendously all around good guy he was..


    Ted Demme's enthusiasm for film was absolutely on display every time the man made a film, or discussed film in an interview.

    Ted died in the peak of a career built around his passion. How many of us will ever die that fortunately?
    Sincerest condolences go out to Amanda, his wife, their family and to Jonathan Demme, his uncle.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:37:52 PM CST

    ...

    by the feral kid

    Shit. Ted Demme wasn't always the ripest berry on the branch, but the man had a love for life and friendship. If you look back at films, that's what they are all about. Accepting a life that doesn't always live up to expectations and learning to love it for what it is, learning to hope. What a hell of a way for a guy to go who has such compassion. 38. This guy gave us "the Ref," "Beautiful Girls" and produced what I think is one of the better indies of the 90s, "Tumbleweeds." And "Action" was his baby. Respect is due here and all our prayers and best wishes to Jonathan and the rest of Ted's family. Too bad we lost a man who truly loved film and was a filmmaker who wasn't about the cash, but about the product. And I think that shows in his body of work - congratulations Mr. Demme, we'll miss you.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:38:25 PM CST

    DannyChico

    by selectd

    I believe Ted was Jonathan's nephew. This is a disappointing loss. Makes you appreciate waking up in the morning. This morning, my radio woke me up first with the news that Bush had nearly choked to death on a pretzel which was slightly amusing. Then they reported that Demme was dead. That was when I wished I was still dreaming.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:39:07 PM CST

    beautiful words from all at AICN

    by exador

    just read all the thoughtful eulogies here..very well said......i can see that many of you were not only fans of his work, but were aquaintences and friends as well......our thoughts and prayers to his family......nice words guys....you do this site proud......

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:39:14 PM CST

    Dannychico, Jonathan's his uncle

    by crm114

    RIP Ted...

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:39:41 PM CST

    Beautiful Girls is a wonderful picture...

    by jsw

    ...you should go and not only rent it but own it because once you have seen it you'll want to see it once and again.
    It is a great picture full of joy, tears and laughters made by a man that I'm sure loved life and above all movies with REAL heart and feelings.
    Altough this is the only one of Ted Demme's films that I really liked, it was enough to make me buy a ticket every time that a film by him opened in my country,
    Now I'll have to wait forever for the miracle of another picture like this one to come from Ted Demme.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:39:56 PM CST

    we already miss you ted

    by suck my flick

    I loved ted's work. Blow was great, I loved watching him on IFC. But most of all I LOVED BEAUTIFUL GIRLS. I've seen it a million times and it always makes me feel good and appreciate the great friend's I have. And as a struggling filmmaker he was always high on my list of people I would want to meet and get to hang out with. I'm sure he's up in heaven talking to kubrick, hitchcock and wells about what their favorite sopranos episode is. We love you ted.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:45:17 PM CST

    Moviedom Lost a Cool Guy...

    by studs urkel

    Let's not neglect to mention his "Escape From Hollywood" segments on IFC. However, this is not the time to revisit the Blow v. Goodfellas controversy, because it's not an argument you can win. But Blow was underrated, told a good story, and was a solid 3 star out of 4 star movie.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:46:33 PM CST

    Thank you

    by boston

    In theory, a man is worth more than his work (movies), but as someone who never had the fortune to meet Ted Demme, he, or is work will forever stand with me as I think Beautiful Girls completely captures that intangible longing to go back to that time in life where you were younger, and the inability to do so. Girls is an amazing film in its nuances, and my personal favorite, and the past four years it has been a crutch on which my closest friends and I have constantly relied in college. Cheers, Mr. Demme.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:48:45 PM CST

    Stan White

    by bearison ford

    read harrys old review, his thoughts have more or less been the same since before Ted Demme died. i personally didnt care for blow, and it still kind of "blows" my mind that harry can like it more than goodfellas (but thats not surprising). regardless, it's a shame ted demme had to die so young.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:49:59 PM CST

    rest in peace Ted....

    by cameron fry

    I loved Beautiful Girls & Blow. He will be missed

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:50:48 PM CST

    Don't forget "Yo MTV Raps"

    by justoneoftheguys

    This guy was the force behind the show. One of the few cool things to come out of MTV before the cheese took over.

    P.S. Lets have some respect and not make this a blow vs. Goodfellas thing. Ted was a great guy that only showed support to aspiring filmmakers. He was just like a friend after talking to him for a few seconds.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:52:05 PM CST

    Harry, I wish I was friends with you.

    by holden

    Harry,
    What a wonderful tribute. You are exactly right about the warmth of the characters in Blow. I think Ted Demme was making a story about a father's love for his child, and he used George's story to show it. Here's a man who simply adored his father. George didn't always make the right decisions, but he sure did love his daughter. I found that more interesting that the drug aspect. I am a filmmaker just begining my life. Ted Demme passing away is a sign that I should make the films I can make because I never know when I'm gunna go...
    I'm from Mississippi, so I hope that one day you will hear from me. You really bring the human aspect out in your reviews. Everything I read of yours...is from the heart. I have never enjoyed your site more than I have these past few months. And I'm telling you right now, when I make the big time...you'll be sure to know it, because you've inspired me to make films the best way: with a good story.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:52:16 PM CST

    Demme will be missed

    by keyser195

    Quite coincidentally, I wound up revisiting "The Ref" last night. It's one of my favorite movies that no one's ever heard of. The kind of movie where, when someone asks me for something funny to rent, I always say (along with "Quick Change") because it's a guaranteed surprise.
    That sums of Ted Demme's career pretty well, I think. He was the guy you never expected. His uncle Jon is the one who always got the praise and attention (and Oscar), but he was out there, consistantly making interesting, cool (if not always completely successful) films (save "Life," which I thought was pretty awful).
    By the way, not to add fuel to the fire, but as much as I respected Demme's work, "Blow" is a fun movie, while "Goodfellas" is a landmark film. There is no comparison.

    Ted, you'll be missed.

    And, like that, I'm gone...

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:54:02 PM CST

    ...and yet Schumacher lives on.

    by chow yun phat

    Oh well. Everyone spill one for Ted. Blow was NOT better than Goodfellas but that doesn't mean he had to die! Oh well, Harry, hopefully this will inspire you to lose some weight brother. I'm right there with ya give or take a couple of tons. Just because we're young bucks doesn't mean we're invulnerable. See you on the other side Ted.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 3:55:19 PM CST

    incredibly sad

    by frank black

    I saw "Blow" several times in the theater and have since enjoyed the DVD repeatedly.

    "Blow" was the last of three films that helped me kick drugs and alcohol and return my life to normal after fifteen years. The other two films were "Broken Vessels" and "Traffic."

    "Blow" is a wonderfully effective film that depicts the history of a phenomenon that has destroyed lives for decades.

    If there is a heaven, I hope Ted Demme is up there hanging with other great filmmakers and actors that he loved. He leaves a small legacy, but more importantly, he seemed like a nice person with a good heart.

    I thank him for helping me get my life back, but am saddened he lost his.

    Life is indeed too short.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 4:02:39 PM CST

    damn...

    by emmettfitz-hume

    I just bought Beautiful Girls on dvd, and just on Saturday night saw Blow for the first time. I was so looking forward to what was to come from this guy. Damn shame...

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  • Jan 14, 2002 4:03:15 PM CST

    Demme, death, this whole "Blow" thing

    by magnusbuchan

    Personally, my favorite Demme film is "The Ref." Maybe with his passing, they'll release a "Director's Edition" with the original ending (Leary gets arrested). From all evidence, Demme was a great guy, and his love of film was obvious from his IFC work, but "Blow"...

    Harry, since when is it required for a film-maker to feel sympathy for his subjects? To "like" them? With biopics, especially biopics where the subject is a multiple felon, if the film-maker can't distance himself from the subject, the film is dead.

    But the real reason why "Blow" isn't a very good movie has nothing to do with sympathy versus objectivity...it's just not a very good movie. Despite Demme's love for film, for the characters, for the periods he evokes, this movie never connected to me once on any level. Depp, who I love as an actor, did nothing for me in this film. Penelope Cruz, who I hate as an actor, surprisingly did nothing for me as well. The story has been told before, with more energy and wit, and that film, of course, is "Goodfellas".

    I understand that Demme was a buddy of yours and that you have special feeling for this film, and that Demme was a wonderful, loving man, but "Goodfellas" is the work of a MASTER film-maker (who helped DEFINE that 70's movie era that Demme loved so much) working at the absolute top of his game. "Goodfellas" is an infinitely superior movie to "Blow". So, for that matter, is "Boogie Nights", another Scorcese wannabe that hits all of the right notes instead of all of the wrong ones.

    My heart goes out to all who knew and loves Ted Demme, but please, let's not belittle what film legacy he left us by overplaying its significance.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 4:07:18 PM CST

    Ted Demme

    by david fincher

    I heard about this hours ago and I just can't seem to accept that he is dead and won't be coming back. I am so sad as a fine film-maker has passed away. Ted's last film "Blow" was a point when I thought to myself "Now here's a guy to look out for. Here's a guy who's going places." He has left us with BLOW, a great movie, which brings me some comfort to watch. I will go and listen to his commentarys on both BLOW and LIFE. -- I thought what you guys from AICN wrote about him was really great. Especially you Quint.

    Well guys, that's all I've got to say on this sad, sad day. All you guys take care.

    --Paul

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  • Jan 14, 2002 4:09:28 PM CST

    Dammit...

    by magnusbuchan

    My post seemed a lost less venomous and ignorant while I was writing it. Everything changes once you hit that "post" button.

    Summing up...

    Ted Demme--Good man, competent film-maker, no Martin Scorcese.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 4:16:06 PM CST

    the passing of TD

    by rabid_republican

    The AICN crew's comments were quite heartfelt and sincere. In this industry, one often consumed by the cliched use of the word "tragedy", I find this an all-too apropriate passing a time to use it. Of the films TD did, "The Ref" has become one of my all-time holiday favoites. It is strictly under rated. And although I can't say "Blow" was anywhere near a must see in my opinion, I'm one to agree with consensus that TD's best film making days were ahead of him. He will be missed.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 4:18:47 PM CST

    ted demme damn! shit just like my brother a heart attack this gu

    by jon-e-blaze

    i mean life was so-so and whos the man blew but blow was great damn!

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  • Jan 14, 2002 4:21:01 PM CST

    Ted - go with god amigo

    by brundlefly

    I am stunned - i watched 'Blow' last night for the 2nd time - i loved 'Beautiful Girls' - 'The Ref' and 'Blow' marked a step up and hinted at greatness - he was working on that doco about 70's film too....so much wasted - damn - i am genuinely upset - a filmmaker i admired and i loved the fact that he loved film as much as i do...check out his commentary on Blow - he was a marvel and my condolences go out to his family and friends - another great one gone - but not forgotten - god bless Ted. R.I.P

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  • Jan 14, 2002 4:21:04 PM CST

    My condolences to his family and friends.......

    by e_man

    "Beautiful Girls" has got to be one of THE most underrated films of the 90

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  • Jan 14, 2002 4:23:45 PM CST

    This is sad. Only 38, too? Damn sad.

    by smugbug

    It would have been interesting to see what this guy could have done in a few more years.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 4:24:49 PM CST

    A Shame

    by notarydpo

    Ted Demme was not among my favorite directors so I won't pretend he was. Yet I enjoyed at least one thing in every one of his movies, something I can say of very few directors.

    The Ref has long been, and will remain, required Christmas viewing around my place.

    And the Philadelphia video is among the best simple uses of the form.

    So I guess that in at least a few ways I won't soon forget his contributions. A real shame.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 4:25:23 PM CST

    Ted Demme's movies touched my life...

    by josef k

    When I met my future wife, there were the ususal attrations. But it was a conversation about movies that finally let us hit it off. On our first date, we talked endlessly about one of our favorite films..."The Ref". I loved this movie, as did my future wife. The great understated performance by Spacey, the sharp writing and the pin-point direction by Demme. One of best dates occured when we went to see "Beautiful Girls", we were all alone in the theatre on a tuesday night. It was a spur of the moment call that led us to the movies. This lush romantic ensemble helped seal my fate, as I knew that the woman sitting next to me was to be with me forever. Movies can do that to you, create lasting moments for a lifetime. They don't have to be "THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME". But be the RIGHT movie at the RIGHT moment. Ted Demme's movies were just that for us, the right movies that created, for us, the right moments. We'll miss the future moments he would have created for us...

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  • Jan 14, 2002 4:31:37 PM CST

    A sad loss

    by hktelemacher

    I really dug Beautiful Girls, but I always seemed to focus more on Scott Rosenberg's script and the actors than I ever did Demme's direction. It was so effortless, almost like the movie told itself. But like most of us, Blow was the flick that made me really notice Demme's presence, and made me reevaluate his past work. I agree with Harry about preferring Blow to Goodfellas, almost simply because Blow provoked emotions in me while Goodfellas didn't. While Demme took a lot of stylistic cues from Scorsese, I also saw that he was at a very big transition as a filmmaker and that each of his films had a subtle grace and texture. He wasn't extravagant. It seemed to me that Demme always called attention to the story, and I really think that he was a world class filmmaker waiting to happen. Through his few films, his Escape from Hollywood segments on IFC and the commentary on Blow I almost felt like I knew him. He endeared people to his flicks because he brought a lot of love to his movies, and I connected with his stuff on a personal level just because I could strongly identify with the themes, or the guys in Beautiful Girls or the emotions in Blow. I don't know. I heard that Paul Thomas Anderson was involved with Demme's 70s movies documentary in some capacity - perhaps he'll pick up the reigns on that one. Thirty eight is too young for anyone to die, but our loss as moviegoers is miniscule to the loss of his friends and family, but I think that it's valid to still feel something as a moviegoer because of the connection through the art. Rest in peace, Ted.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 4:37:12 PM CST

    Well that's so sad

    by billy talent

    Hitchcock, Wells, Kubrick et al. are most likely wondering if Wilder and Bergman are ever going to show up. Demme's more likely conspiring with Don Simpson to pick up a supremely uninterested Aaliyah (sp). "Crash and burn buddy, crash and burn." (I'm sorry, that was incredibly distasteful. I'd also like to retract my suggestion in the 'BOTW' talkback that Harry take up smoking to help with his weight loss.) Still, Ted Demme made some mostly not bad movies and perhaps he did have a couple of great films in him. It's a strange kind of thing. Never knew the guy, didn't love his work, but this just hits pretty close. More than ever I want to get out there and make a movie of my own. It seems like a good time to cut down on the vices, hit the gym a couple of times a week, and make something out of nothing.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 4:38:49 PM CST

    Ted Demme....you will be missed

    by gonzobu

    I almost never use talk back, but i feel that on this occasion i must. The first time I saw Beautiful Girls was magical and it has continued to be one of my favorite films. The rewatch value never decreased for me. I loved that film and I still do. Blow is also a great movie in my opinion. It is sad to hear of Ted's passing. It is even more unfortunate to know that he will never again grace us with his work. Ted, you were a man of skill. Your work has meant much to many. You will be missed.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 4:41:01 PM CST

    well, this kinda sucks

    by tommy5tone

    ted was a pretty good director - 'the ref' had a bunch of cool moments, 'beautiful girls' was one of the best of those wise-mouthed, mid-nineties ensemble pieces, 'blow' displayed a real love of film-making technique. one of his little-seen films was 'monument ave.', a boston crime drama starring denis leary - caught it on DVD a couple of months ago and was pleasantly surprised by demme's confident work behind the camera and solid relationship with his cast. looking forward to picking up the big-ass 'blow' DVD packagae to hear ted's commentary - it's obvious the guy was a cool geek with great taste and a huge love of film. one got the feeling that his best work was yet to come - i'm sorry if that sounds lame, or like i'm not giving props to his early work, but you could see him ironing out the mistakes of his previous work and stretching a little further with each project he took on. RIP, ted, and thanks for the cool movies: we'll be watching 'beautiful girls' at five-tone's tonight in tribute.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 4:46:07 PM CST

    So Long, Ted

    by mrbeaks

    It gets said too much, but in this case it's the absolute truth: Ted was one of the good guys. Though I'll celebrate the triumphs ("Yo, MTV Raps", THE REF and BEAUTIFUL GIRLS), I will also mourn the loss of a director on the cusp of entering an exciting new phase in his work. My condolences to his family and friends.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 4:57:37 PM CST

    Nice tribute, Harry

    by staley

    So long Ted. You'll be missed.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 4:59:28 PM CST

    I

    by sweetlow99

    "Monument Ave." I just saw that one last week. A very small, very understated movie starring Denis Leary, Martin Sheen, Colm Meany among others. This is a great loss. The news really hit me, man. Naturally I only know him from his work, but I found each and every one of his movies good. Um, except that "Who

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  • Jan 14, 2002 5:02:09 PM CST

    =[

    by sod off baldric

    Man...first John Buscema, and now this (this stuff always hits in threes, unfortunately, so I'm afraid we have one more to come in the next few weeks). I hate the New Year so far. Anyway, on the subject of Mr. Demme...never met the guy, but I wish I had. I liked "Blow," loved "Beautiful Girls," and consider "Who's the Man?" to be a funny flick. This is a sad day, and my heart goes out to those that Mr. Demme left behind. Take care of yourselves.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 5:05:53 PM CST

    Farewell

    by miss aura

    God Bless his soul, Blow was a great film in my opinion too.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 5:21:37 PM CST

    So much potential...

    by bad guy

    this is a damn shame. R.I.P. Mr. Demme.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 5:22:26 PM CST

    The Ref

    by uga

    About a year ago, I left a feedback praising "The Ref," saying it was one of the more underrated comedies I'd ever seen. A few hours later, I got a very gracious e-mail from Ted Demme, thanking me for the kind words. Harry just confirmed that the e-mail address it came from was actually Demme's, and I think that speaks volumes for the man - willing to reach out to a single fan and show appreciation.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 5:26:22 PM CST

    Beautiful Girls is an amazing movie.

    by sidneycarton2

    Mr. Demme turned what easily could have been a drowned-out movie by an overly spectacular cast into an amazing work of cinema. I swear I've seen that movie like 10 times already at least. Great filmmaker.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 5:43:08 PM CST

    God, I had no idea that reading "Ted Demme Passes On" would be a

    by el duderino

    Demme had huge potential, and even though he was arguably about to become a much more important and significant director, with a filmography that includes The Ref, Blow, and most importantly Denis Leary's "No Cure for Cancer," there's no doubt in my mind he made a sizeable impression in our culture while he was still alive.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 6:01:01 PM CST

    TED DEMME, The Great Man Who Brought Us Beautiful Girls, The Ex

    by the founder

    I was shocked when I heard the news, the same feeling I got when Aaliyah passed. Why are some of the great ones taken to soon?
    I can honestly say that I've enjoyed his films, and not someone to jump on the "I'm A fan All Of A Sudden Bandwagon" He looked to have a promising future in Hollywood. A tragic loss, and he left two small children behind, my thoughts to his family. Why does this stuff happen to the good ones. R.I.P Ted Demme.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 6:05:48 PM CST

    Awfully young to die.

    by superninja

    Blow was an outstanding film, and I was looking forward to his next project. Too young to die.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 6:18:23 PM CST

    we're gonna need a bigger boat.

    by femme fatale

    to a truly great filmmaker and person, god bless you Ted Demme.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 6:36:26 PM CST

    Always sad

    by silver_joo

    It is a shame, he may have gone onto greater things, however fate has intervened and deprived us.
    Great to see some sincerity in the AICN comments, this was a guy you clearly admired. Not sure about the constant referencing to AOL Instant Messenger though; slightly crass?

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  • Jan 14, 2002 6:37:21 PM CST

    RIP

    by corranhorn

  • Jan 14, 2002 6:41:54 PM CST

    This is truly sad...

    by psyclops

    The guy was young and still had so many wonderful things in store for us. I thought BLOW was a great film and I truly loved BEAUTIFUL GIRLS... this is realy sad. May he rest in peace.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 6:43:40 PM CST

    Ted Demme was one of the good ones.

    by basic alias

    Ted was never a flashy director. He didn't have massive action scenes like Michael Bay, and he never used twisted camera angles and warped editing like Sam Raimi. But make no mistake: he was a master of subtlety. My favorite film of his was Monument Ave., a.k.a. Snitch. I had the pleasure of seeing it in theatres, and it's one of the most underrated films I've ever seen. There's this scene where someone close to Dennis Leary's charater has died, and Leary finally decides to give up drugs. Except, he never actually comes out and says it. Someone asks him if he wants a snort, and he says no. I think he pours his last stash down the crapper, but I'm not even sure of that. And that's the brilliant part. In a lot of other movies (too many others), there would've been this big scene with stirring music, as Leary, gnashing his teeth with tears pouring down his face, would throw the coke down the toilet, look up to the heavens and scream "no more!" at the top of his lungs as the music bursts into a massive crescendo. Thank God that never happened in this movie. Demme knew that life wasn't like that, and movie-goers deserved more. He didn't make bullshit, over-blown For Your Oscar Consideration movies. He simply kept it real. And in doing so made his films incredibly accessible to everyone without ever once dumbing it down. In fact, the opposite occurred, they were smarter because of it. If you read the talk-backs here you really get a sense of how inviting and down-to-Earth his films were and how they touched so many people. A lot of people have lamented on what could have been. My advice? Relax. Demme's left behind a film career that most directors would kill for. Decades from now, people will still be watching The Ref at Christmas, debating Blow vs. Goodfellas, and discovering Beautiful Girls for the first time. And all those over-hyped directors we all love to hate on this site? All those over-paid hacks with their empty, two-hour ads for toys? Nothing. Not even a memory. And if that ain't a reward for good work, I don't know what is. ***** P.S. In all this talk about his movies, I almost forgot Yo! MTV Raps. I don't listen to a lot of rap music, but as the show's producer Ted HAS to be given props for elevating the status of hip-hop. You gotta remember, when MTV first started they wouldn't play videos from any black people, let alone rappers. Yo! gave MCs and DJs a place not only to show videos, but to perform them live. Quite an accomplishment for a white guy, huh? Peace.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 6:45:07 PM CST

    this sucks

    by scttkrkwd

    well i felt the need to say something. beautiful girls had a profound influence on me and i still watch it at least once a month. i always will think ted's the coolest because of that movie. and this sucks. heart attacks suck. basketball charities suck.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 6:57:30 PM CST

    WHAT?

    by holidill

    Ted Demme passed away, that's impossible. Geez, and my day was going so well. He was a good director, I enjoyed BLOW and THE REF. I don't think I saw any of his other films, but you don't expect to see someone Ted Demme's age pass away so suddenly. Geez, I guess no one really knows when they will pass on.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 7:01:24 PM CST

    My Consolations to Harry, Ted's family and friends, and all

    by forward_deploy

    I have to admit that I never really knew that much about Ted and don'r recall having seen any of his movies, but from the silent whispers from those who knew him I can confidently be assured that this man will be missed and that we lost a great pioneer of film.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 7:02:14 PM CST

    So sad...

    by moviemaximus

    It's always sad to lose a great director at such a young age. (esp. cause of a heart-attack) I'm 26, and between the ages of 19-21 I survived 3 mayor heart-attacks, but an open heart-operation saved my life. BLOW was a wonderful movie, but I always loved THE REF and BEAUTIFUL GIRLS (I always wanted to see a sequel 5 years later, cause I always wanted to know if Timothy Hutton would have waited 5 years for Natalie Portman, but it never came...alas). My thoughts are with Ted's friend and family....... "Farewell and ado"

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  • Jan 14, 2002 7:06:21 PM CST

    Gandalf Said it Best :

    by quo vadimus

    "many that live deserve death..... and some that die deserve life"

    Ted was one thats for sure that deserved life

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  • Jan 14, 2002 7:27:41 PM CST

    I loved The Ref...

    by fatal discharge

    ...Denis Leary hasn't made a better film since. Who's The Man and Beautiful Girls were also funny. I haven't seen Ted's recent stuff but his films will at least leave his newborn and 3-year old kids some legacy of the obvious warmth of the man which shone through in his films. So sad.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 7:29:40 PM CST

    In the words of someone a little wiser than his years,

    by pretty much yeah

    This is pretty fucked up right here. You can talk about how horrible it is,how sad, but there it is. Makes no damn sense except for the fact that it happened. Only leverage
    you have is what you do after. Jesus. Shit.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 7:32:23 PM CST

    Far too young

    by shawn f.

    I wasn't the biggest of fans of Ted Demme's work (although I thought 'The Ref' was a great, very underrated comedy), I do think that perhaps his best work was ahead of him. He died wayyy too young. My sincere condolences to his family and friends.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 7:39:31 PM CST

    Sweet Caroline

    by zootrain

    I'm stunned. I'm numb. I just stared at my screen for almost a minute trying to figure out if I'd read that right. It's strange how you can feel loss for someone you've never even met, but through their work, they almost become family. I followed his career closely, about as close as your average movie geek can follow a career, and he never disappointed me. I thought that "The Ref" was not only one of the great 90s comedies but also one of the best social satires ever made. Not only that, but I still stand by my opinion that "American Beauty" was "The Ref"...sans Denis Leary and possessing a Lolita complex. Personally, I thought that Kevin Spacey's performance was better in "The Ref," but I'm usually on my own with that opinion. "Beautiful Girls" is probably one of the most grossly ignored movies of the 90s. Whenever people ask for a recommendation, I say "Beautiful Girls." It never disappoints. Ironically, "Beautiful Girls" DID have a Lolita complex. That's a movie that simply becomes a part of you. You remember it and smile. And it reminds you what a great fucking song "Sweet Caroline" is. But enough of this movie review stuff. I'm sad. Ted Demme seemed like he was full of so much potential. Full of greatness. He'll be missed.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 7:43:12 PM CST

    sorry to hear of the loss of Ted Demme

    by the shrunkenhead

    I only saw Blow a month ago,and for a film which I was sure I was going to loathe I was sure suprised to find myself totally absorbed, and then watching the film again straight afterwards for Demme and Jung's commentary, and then buying the DVD. I guess thats down to a good story and a passionate storyteller. I look forward to seeing his previous work. - My condolences to his friends and family.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 7:49:46 PM CST

    A sad thing. My heart goes out to his family...

    by wee willie

    But Harry, your preference of Blow over Goodfellas, though it is your opinion, is sadly juvenile.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 8:16:22 PM CST

    A great, personal filmmaker...

    by sabreman

    I love Ted's films, it seems that in the UK many have different titles to the US, but my favourite is 'Noose' (known over your side of the pond as Monument Ave.) Sorely overlooked. Also Hostile Hostages (which from what I've read here looks like it may be The Ref). I didn't know he directed 'No Cure For Cancer' too. What a loss. Man I hate clicking on AICN and seeing these headlines...

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  • Jan 14, 2002 8:23:42 PM CST

    Fuck heart attacks, fuck them up their stupid asses.

    by thematarife

    I thought the title would be a fitting tribute. We should start a memorial fund to be donated to the american heart association, in his memory. This sucks ass. The guy who supposedly inspired the old man and the sea died today too.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 8:59:44 PM CST

    Shocked

    by nflrefugee

    Like many of you I followed Ted's career. I liked a lot of his films and thought that he was showing great potential as a director. He got better with each film. Blow was good, though flawed film, that affirmed Demme was on his way to becoming an important young voice in America cinema. He was destined to make a masterpiece. I am saddened that I, as all of you, will not be able to see his follow up to Blow. Of course that is all irrelevant considering the grief that his family and friends are feeling. I hope someone completes the documentary on 70's films that he started. I was really looking forward to that, and I am sure he would have wanted us to see that. Again, our need are irrelevant in light of this tragedy. To quote Mike Royko when John Belushi died, "I know that life is unfair but it shouldn't cheat that much." 38 is too young.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 9:21:53 PM CST

    Why the hell do celebrities have to die?

    by cantankerouscrab

    I first saw Blow in the theater on a Sunday, I think. I am pretty sure I had stayed up all night the night before and pushed it passed the 24 hour mark and then started to doze and daze during the film no matter how great. Although someone I went with had sunflower seeds, and eating those create enough action to keep someone wide awake until they stop. I couldn't believe it I was so fucking mad. I had loved this movie from the beginning, it was such a good movie, the characters made you feel like you were in the movie watching it live...and then I fucking fell asleep. Right at the emotional ending. Well for part of it. I woke up for like the split second that the real Jung's face was on the screen and it creeped me out. I was so sad on the way home, not only because I missed the ending, but also sort of sad from the ending. Ted Demme was such a good director, if he made me feel like being in the movie and feeling bad for a drug dealer, he is a great director. I'm glad that he did create something that many people loved, so he did accomplish what he set out to do I hope.
    I loved Blow just so much. I can't stop saying it. The mood of it is so enjoyable and sad in scenes like when Franka's character has to die, its done so well. I remember eagerly watching an advanced video copy, I was so thankful for the screener to be in my possesion.
    I was looking at the DVD for Blow the other day and thinking about it. How I wanted it. God, this is so fucking sad.
    I can't wait to get the DVD and watch the InfiFilm and the commentary where I can learn more about the very likable Ted Demme, I seem to now want to know as much as possible about him.

    I recently saw most of Beautiful Girls on TV and it got me into the movie as well, (with great help from Rapaport) it was a good friendship movie that you are glad to watch and when the main guy leaves back home you actually feel that crappy feeling when a good friend or relative is going home from visiting. A very good trait of a good director.

    I didn't even know that he did
    The Ref or Life until today. I had seen The Ref and it is one of those movies that are good to watch like you feel good when you watch the humor from it, and just all the people in one place for a night together really makes it enjoyable, I remember one time when my family rented it, we watched it and then when I went to bed I put it on and ended up not falling asleep to it, or maybe near the end, but I think I watch the whole movie again, or atleast most of it.

    I haven't seen Life, but I definatly will, not to mention his other work.
    I can't stop thinking about how I never got to meet him like several of you have, and how he wont be able to create anymore masterpieces.
    I will be looking forward to what was finished on the documentary.
    I guess films truly are better when they are made by the people that love them.


    You will be missed, Ted, and you've done a good job.
    Farewell, Mr. Demme.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 9:41:09 PM CST

    Why the hell do celebrities have to die? Take Two.

    by cantankerouscrab

    I am so sorry. I got so caught up with his movies and draging on and on about when I saw them and such that I unfairly didn't give, even though they may not even read these, his wife and family my deepest sympathy. They are the one who are having the worst trouble with this, I know it could sound stupid or unfair to just talk about how I will miss his cinematic talents, which we all will, when his family will not just lose a great man's talents, but a great man.

    My deepest sympathy to his family and friends, whome of which, I was never lucky enough to have a slight affiliation with. Although I am not bitter about never meeting Ted, someone who loved cinema, but it would have been so great.

    Farewell, Mr. Demme.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 10:03:24 PM CST

    ZooTrain

    by magnusbuchan

    You are not alone. One of the reasons that Spacey's "American Beauty" performance has never impressed me is because I'd seen it already--in "The Ref". There is so much more energy and vitality to that movie and to that performance.

    So, to hell with the "Blow" versus "Goodfellas" debate, I'm going to start another controversy. "The Ref" is a better movie than "American Beauty".

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  • Jan 14, 2002 10:13:12 PM CST

    On The Way Up

    by donkeypunch

    With 'BLow' Ted was on his up in terms of filmmaking, he seemed to be hitting his stride. I would read this site in hopes that there would be mention of a new Demme project. He also directed one of the best "Holiday" films - The Ref. I would have liked to heard his commentary on the DVD when/if it would be released.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 10:24:38 PM CST

    Too young

    by kikstad

    Deaths are always terrible, but I think even more so when it happens to people so young. He was so young. How many more movies did he have in him...how many great films will we now never see...May he rest in peace. I hope he's in a better place.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 10:59:56 PM CST

    The Ref ruled

    by thecomedian

    I second the guy who said that Spacey played Lester Burnham better in the Ref than he did in American Beauty. Ted Demme was one of the few guys who was in this biz and sitting in "the chair" because he genuinely loved movies and not just because he was born into it or he wanted a house in Malibu and a piece of ass girlfriend. I guess, we never know. When it's our time it's just our time.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 11:01:51 PM CST

    dude, harry, dont erase Ted's number and IM name . . .

    by h.m. motard xvii

    I would leave it, just as a small personal tribute to a true friend of yours man, That is what i would do.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 11:08:18 PM CST

    Condolences and prayers to the Demme family.

    by mysterio_9999

    My heart lies heavy today with such dispariging news as I received today about Ted's passing. For I, as so many, crossed paths with Ted on ocassions and found him to be nonethingless than a man filled with life, love and vigor for not just film, but for life and more so his family. I learned of the news today early this morning as my boss first informed of his passing by asking me, "Did you hear that Jonathan Demme passed?" My immediated reaction was obvious disbelief, then my heart sank deep as he quickly corrected himself by saying it was the "young" one. "Ted? Ted Demme? I replied. He then confirmed it with a surely, "Yes, That was the one. Ted." As my heart sank even deeper, my mind, still hoping that he was incorrect in his assumption jumped online to learn the truth that indeed it was Ted who passed. For having met, and talked to someone with such an enthusiam for life, and always a sparkle in his eye, it's still hard to fathom that Ted's been taken away from us so early in life. As Harry's sentiments have expressed, I too, will undoubtably have to erase Ted's number from my cell phone as well. Although his number may be erased from my phone, his memory and thinking about what else he had to offer in life, will forever be etched in my memory - for indeed Ted was one of the good guys. Ted - you will be missed. Say "hello" to big man for me. Thoughts and prayers go out to the Demme family in hoping they find the strength to overcome this unexpected tragedy.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 11:22:57 PM CST

    Who's The Man? Ted was

    by jrs

    Fellow movie lovers, today is a sad day. True Ted Demme never reached the heights of Spielberg, Kubrick and others, he was well on his way. With each film he grew and made more fans. Ted was well on his way and I, for one, am just sick about his passing. Rest in peace Ted and thanks for giving us all you could.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 11:25:56 PM CST

    Damn, Teddy...

    by vermifax

    "The Ref". Near priceless.
    "Beautiful Girls". Ted was the only american so far to show Portman's true promise.
    "Blow" Delicious film making.
    "Life" Not perfect, but enjoyable.

    I just saw Ted on IFC, Sunday night. Fuck, this hurts!

    I'll miss ya, Man! Gone too soon. R.I.E.P.

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  • Jan 14, 2002 11:32:47 PM CST

    Sleazy G, I thought Who's the Man was funny too.

    by basic alias

    It was a lot funnier than it had a right to be. With all those rappers and MTV personalities making cameos, it should've been a disaster, but I'll be damned if they didn't pull it off. Of course, the funniest scenes are the ones where Leary abuses the shit out of Dre, mocking him for calling himself a "Doctor" and refusing to let him have a doughnut. Oh, and let's not forget their souped-up police car! Screw the Batmobile, I wanna fight crime in that thing.

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  • Jan 15, 2002 1:30:41 AM CST

    That 70's documentary Ted was doing sounded soooooo sweet!

    by cash bailey

    I've always wanted someone to do a real balls-to-the-wall doco about that remarkable time in film (68-80), kind of like a filmed companion to Biskind's incredible book. Let's just pray that this film doesn't die with Ted, and that some equally passionate soul takes it up and finishes it.

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  • Jan 15, 2002 1:44:09 AM CST

    Praises

    by glovesmeller

    I met Ted Demme once, at a NYC Barnes & Noble book-signing to promote "Blow." His Mother was there -- she actually escorted me to the front of the line to grab Ted's autograph when I started chatting with her about how much I loved her son's work. What a sweet, sweet lady. Her son was even kinder...

    I was a stupid, wet-behind-the-ears film geek and Ted Demme treated me like royalty. Enteratined every last one of my annoying inquiries.

    To add to his praises, to join this chorus that has developed on the site, it's probably meaningless. Ted had so many admirers. But he deserved them. At least he has a legacy...

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  • Jan 15, 2002 1:56:10 AM CST

    Blow vs. Goodfellas

    by sfa1

    I do not wish to speak ill of the dead -- particularly when the dead was well-intentioned and had a good heart, as Ted Demme apparently did (at least according to all of his interviews, as well as my general perception of his work) -- but Harry's contention that Blow is greater than Goodfellas is absolutely ludicrous. Of course, he's stated this opinion before, most ridiculously in his first review of the film, but also in his 2001 recap, and now in this neo-obituary/tribute. True, it's hard to write about a friend in the days immediately following a death, but to stand by the conviction that this slavish homage is better than what inspired it is pigheaded, juvenile and ill-informed. Why? Because Blow -- more than any of Ted Demme's other films -- was enslaved to its influences, to the point of capturing the texture and feel of its greatest influence, Goodfellas. There were great moments in Blow, but they were because Demme and company borrowed from Scorsese and, to a lesser extent, Paul Thomas Anderson, to the letter while assembling the final print of Blow. It's not just that the opening scene has "Can't You Hear Me Knockin',' just like Casino, but it's that Blow borrows the very structure of Goodfellas, as it traces its central character's arc from youthful longing to adult fulfillment. If Demme had expanded that, drawn some reason of why George Jung wanted to deal coke outside that he was a lazy fuck-up that wanted money without exerting himself, perhaps Blow would have some resonance. But he didn't. Instead, the audience is asked to identify with a lazy, talentless, layabout crook that doesn't do anything except push drugs (he doesn't even stand up to Pablo Escobar; that scene was certainly intended to show that Jung was capable of exerting his power, but instead it plays as if he'll do anything to keep his trade). Compare that to Goodfellas, where from the very opening you understand why Henry Hill not just loves gangster culture, but HAS to be part of it. The second he's peering from behind the blinds, staring at the mobsters across the street, you understand why he's in love with this world, why he would do anything to be a part of it. And that's why the argument that Blow is more emotionally resonant than Goodfellas is as thin as rice paper. With Blow, there are no characters and, at best, they're stereotypes -- but even then, they're drawn thinly, without motivation or reason. This would not have been a problem if the movie was either kinetic -- like a Scorsese or PTA film -- or richly subtle, filled with grace notes that explained the behavior of the leads. Instead, the film relies on cliches, in situation and presentation, that makes it cloying and manipulative, no matter how good Franka Potente is in her final scenes, no matter how hard Johnny Depp strives to make an unsympathetic asshole sympathetic. That is a problem that can not be surmounted, but it wouldn't sting as much if Blow wasn't a blatant "homage"/rip-off of the greatest, most influential film of the '90s. Because even if you don't like any of the characters -- and I have to believe at least one character resonates, somehow, no matter your taste -- you have to admit that Goodfellas set the structure, style and humor for everything that followed in its genre, no where as evident as Blow. Perhaps you like the film better because you identify with the lead more -- though I can't see how that would happen, given his flat, colorless portrayal in Blow -- but that doesn't mean it's a greater film, especially given the caliber and influence of Goodfellas.

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  • Jan 15, 2002 2:33:38 AM CST

    he did it

    by thezeppo

    He got the best out of a young Portman, not Besson, he did, rest in piece man, i think you hear me knocking and I think Im coming in, Im already in and I found your copy of Winnie the Pooh Ted...

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  • Jan 15, 2002 2:56:39 AM CST

    First time posting anything on TalkBack...

    by micknc

    I have read enourmous amounts of posts, reviews, praises, pans, arguments, etc. on this site. I've always wanted to get on here and throw in my two cents, but, after reading over those posts, I say to myself, "I haven't watched enough flicks." But after taking in the death of a man, whom of which I never knew, but had a true respect for, and looking at some earlier posts about this topic, something in me just had to put out something. I'm not gonna bicker and argue about which is a better movie, or attack a person with a shortcoming or two, or even come down on people who seem to have a one-track mind when it comes to sad days like today (or yesterday, if you wanna get all time-zone correct about it). I didn't know Ted Demme, never talked to him, never saw him in person, never even knew what he looked like until I saw Blow with his little cameo. I thought he always had talent and I enjoyed his films. I hate the fact that we will never see another Ted Demme film, but, that's life. I would say I'm sorry to the family and friends who were close to Mr. Demme, but I can't. There's a time and place to give your respects, and I really don't think a message board on the internet is a place to do it. If I ever happen to meet a friend or family member of the departed, I would offer my sincere sympathies. I respect Harry and all the others who wrote down what they were feeling at the time when they had learned about the death. I know, I'm rambling, so I'll just try to sum it up the best I can here: We can go back and forth forever about how bad a movie is or how good it is, that's the great thing about this site. But, for a time like now, I think we should just put aside our little quarrels and accept the fact that a guy who was, in a way, just like us (though, apparently, not as nasty as some of you seem to get), a man who loved those movies, is no longer with us. I'll see you all around sometime.

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  • Jan 15, 2002 3:37:53 AM CST

    He died before his time.

    by astral weeks

    Beautiful Girls is an under rated gem of a film with an excellent performance from Natalie Portman. It's terrible to see a young talented man die. One feels that his best work was yet to come. May he rest in peace.

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  • Jan 15, 2002 6:09:03 AM CST

    rescue blues

    by reni

    I first saw Beautiful Girls on tv, the first night I'd moved into my house. I cherish that film. I know it's been done before. I know some of you don't like it much. But to me at least a little bit of it is for me and my mates. I love the way Ted managed to drop little truths into his films. Blow was a fine fucking film too. I'll miss him. Agree with an earlier poster - Life shouldn't cheat so badly.

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  • Jan 15, 2002 7:58:24 AM CST

    I can't BELIEVE "Moriarty" actually QUOTED LOTR.

    by thegame

    What a half-queer.

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  • Jan 15, 2002 8:23:16 AM CST

    he was good people

    by durhay

    Did anyone else think of the comic strip 'Get Fuzzy' when they read that particular line?

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  • Jan 15, 2002 8:26:44 AM CST

    He was playing a charity basketball game for christsakes!!!!!!

    by dante fitz

    I don't play charity basketball. It sounds like he was a super guy and it makes me wish I saw Blow. I guess now is as good a time as any. RIP

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  • Jan 15, 2002 10:18:38 AM CST

    Ted, He shall be sorely missed

    by x2

    He in my opinion was one of the great up and coming directors of the new century. In the 1990's, he was just testing out the waters of directing films with some low budget flicks such as Who's The Man & Beautiful Girls. But the film that he did that made an imprint on Hollywood was Blow. Some people would say that the film is somewhat like Goodfellas with the narrative voice-overs by Depp (mimicking Liotta in Goodfellas), the time periods they were set in, the fact that both of these movies were based on true stories and the fact that Scorcese and Demme are great music lovers. But each director, albeit their movies copy each other. Their handprints in the celluloid have a different characteristic on their own.

    RIP Ted

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  • Jan 15, 2002 10:19:57 AM CST

    demme's films...

    by lou c.

    I can't say I've gotten around to seeing blow, but Ted Demme made to films I'll always have a soft spot for: The Ref and Beautiful Girls. I always felt The Ref, especially, was given a bad rap. Denis Leary, Kevin Spacey and Judy Davis are priceless. And since I can't say I met the guy, I can only say God bless him and his family, and, while he may not have had a chance to reach his full potential as a director, his family should be proud he was able to make a few films that people love and will remember. I'm saddened I won't get to see what films were in store for Mr. Demme.

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  • Jan 15, 2002 1:17:16 PM CST

    Super Bummer. Very Sad. Aweful Loss-- BLOW OVER GOODFELLAS?...

    by randfilms

    Well actually, it is my opinion and NOT fact, but BLOW was not even in the same universe as GOODFELLAS.

    Just wait a decade and see if people even remember Blow anywhere near as much as they remember Goodfellas. Blow learned how to walk, talk, move and shake-- ONLY because Goodfellas existed first.

    Jeesh. But anyways, what a terrible waste of a seemingly swell guy and a talented filmmaker.

    Ted Demme gone at 38? That's still a pup!

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  • Jan 15, 2002 2:40:25 PM CST

    Blow Vs. Goodfellas

    by billy talent

    I thought 'Blow' was somewhere in between Not Half Bad and Pretty Decent, however I was a little stunned just know when I looked at Harry's and Moriarity's wildly enthusiastic - 'Better than Goodfellas' - reviews. 'Goodfellas' is duking it out with 'Godfather I & II', 'Chinatown', 'Bonnie & Clyde' and arguably 'Pulp Fiction', not my favourite, for the title of Greatest Modern Crime film. 'Blow' is not a contender for that title. Having seen it twice I'm really curious as to what you guys found in this movie that I missed. Granted, I don't consider 'Fellowship of the Rings', 'Memento', 'Waking Life', 'Traffic', 'Requiem for a Dream' or 'Fight Club' to be great (or even particularly good) films either, but I can understand why someone else might. But 'Blow'? I can appreciate your personal preferences, maybe 'Goodfellas' is one of those movies that you admire more than you like, as is 'Raging Bull' to me. 'Blow' is perhaps a little lighter and more 'fun', and as an entertaining time killer I can see why some people might return to it more often than 'Goodfellas'. But by no reasonable, objective critical standard is it comparably brilliant to 'Goodfellas' which clearly ranks among the very best American films of the last twenty years. I've gotten used to the fact that your tastes and sensibilities are a little different than mine and I know that just because Harry or Moriarity call a film one of the best ever doesn't necessarily make it so, but honestly, what kind of critics are you? P.S. I don't mean to minimize this tremendous loss.

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  • Jan 15, 2002 3:28:28 PM CST

    i must admit

    by egamipeaks

    the only Ted Demme film i have seen recently is Beautiful Girls, and it is definetly one of my favorite films... it looks completly out of place with the rest of my favorite films... but he really did get the best out of Portman's career and i think he really made her shine... not before or since has she been in a role that better showed her talents.. he was a great actor's director... i think he will be missed very much... from what i hear he sounds like a great guy too...

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  • Jan 15, 2002 4:37:12 PM CST

    far too soon

    by buzzmeekz

    Although he didn't make that many movies, he made one of my all time favorites: Beautiful Girls. I'll always remember him for that one...
    I also loved Blow and I'm really, really sad that we'll never get a chance to see another Ted Demme movie again.

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  • Jan 15, 2002 11:02:21 PM CST

    man, you just never know

    by petejohnst

    okay, so i hear the news that ted demme dies, and i think "damn, that sucks, he just directed Blow" then I hear he was just 38. then i'm hearing on the radio that the creator of Yo MTV raps dies... and it's Ted Demme. I look on IMDB and some of my favs are there... No Cure for Cancer, Beautiful Girls... call me a cinematic moron, i had no clue about the magnitude and potential of this man... this makes me pretty sad today... I was just thinking about how much I loved YO MTV raps the other day... and from the stories and interviews I've read in the last few minutes, I just want to say Rest In Peace Mr. Demme, our hearts go out to you.

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  • Jan 16, 2002 12:35:50 AM CST

    no subject

    by helsinkiturnip

    I will be honest. The first time I ever heard about Ted Demme was when "Blow" was released. I am sure that this does not make much different than your average joe-blow (pun intented) movie-goer; I do not assert, nor aspire to be, the the ultimate fan-boy geek. I have neither the predilection or the time. However, I really like movies, and one of the things that keeps me sane is cutting out of work early on Friday and catching a matinee. One day I saw a movie called "Blow." I did not really know what to expect; I certainly did not expect to come out the theater feeling sorry for someone who, all things considered, was a drug dealer, confirmed criminal and the man who created the cocaine culture in the US; but I did. Hell, and I'm a gun-toting, National Review reading neo-con; sitting in that theatre, as the credits began to roll, with the lined face of the real George Jung staring at me, I felt a real, genuine and sincere sadness over one man's wasted and mispent life. I walked out of the East Hartford Showcase Cinema feeling just a little bit changed and looking at the world in a different way. Honestly, how many movies can you say that about? How many diretors can you say that about? Not very many, that's for damn sure. Requiescat in Pace, Mr. Demme. You will be missed.

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