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Star Wars Episode Two: Attack Of The Boy Band Clones
THE RUMOR HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY LUCASFILM.... ugh -- Harry
Harry here. A long time ago when PHANTOM MENACE came out, Joe Hallenbeck and he was his usually violent self wanting evil ends to befall George's young uns because he claimed they were ruining his beloved STAR WARS films. Personally I felt this wasn't true. Ewoks predated the children of Lucas (didn't they?) besides I had fun with PHANTOM MENACE... the next films were supposed to be of a darker tone... what could an early teen girl and kids possibly do to fuck up STAR WARS...... This rumor hit about 4 nights ago. I decided not to run it because I wanted to hope and pray that it was bunk, junk and crap of a major level. As this rumor has spread far and wide and is appearing in newspapers and on tv shows, I've finally decided to go ahead and place it here. I still haven't seen official comments from Lucasfilm, but we should see them very soon. I guess my 'positive spin' is... if NSYNC are playing cameo Jedi... Well we know that all the Jedi are supposed to be hunt down and killed... and if Anakin or Jango Fett or Count Dooku really want to endear themselves to us for all time... taking a lightsabre to the glam-boy-band NSYNC and doing the ginsu blade of death routine on them all... would RULE! However, I suppose it would be better over all if this was just.... NOT TRUE. Let us all gather in a communal circle, join hands and pray that it isn't so.
Hey Harry,
(I wish the following were untrue)
I wanted to pass on a gut-churning rumor I just heard. Entertainment
Tonight (or some replica) just revealed that Lucas is putting the members
of NSync in Episode 2. Apparently his 13 year old daughter begged him to
include the saccharine fluff-hosers, so he's inserting them as extras who
will die. In other news, authorities have sent out a search party to find
Lucas' soul.
Call me AgentSmith.Click here for more.... on this.... glorious.... news....
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I read this a week ago on DH. Man, this sucks ass. When does the Two Towers come out again?
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I will now set myself on fire.
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350 days until the Two Towers,
my friend. I actually look
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isn't this just an opportunity to exploit more peripheral income streams and merchandising opportunties? Sounds like they're staying true to the Star Wars ethos that's paid off GL's mortgage fairly well.
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As long as they die, I don't care. Just kill them and kill them quick. Oh, and kill them in the movie too.
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I've indured some very weird rumors while being a fan of this site, but this one takes the cake. There's NO WAY this rumor is true. Lucas would have to be off his rocker to put a boy band in any movie he would make, let alone his precious Star Wars. Why would Lucas want to piss away his cash cow with a stunt like this. Granted, it would lure in a younger audience to the movie, but it would betray and entire generation that has grown up with these movies.
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Check out the Rolling Stone N'Sync cover story from a few months ago. In it one of the boys is bragging about his new role as movie producer,(remember "On the Line"), one of the other N'Syncers says he wants to be in the new Star Wars, during the course of the interview they get a call saying the deal is done. Not sure when the issue came out I think in October or November.
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ARGHH! The film artist in George must be dead if he would pander to such a low level. Why not throw in a few Pepsis as well? Even galaxies far far away and long long ago cannot escape shameless corporate bullshit. George, STOP making movies by committee and concensus. Repeat after me: To thine own self, be true. To thine own self, be true. Thank God, Peter Jackson stayed true to his vision. . . At least the art of film is not completely dead.
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I enjoyed the little Easter Egg hidden sight gags (the ETs, the Dolby logo on the droid) in the PHANTOM MENACE. I have no problem with this just so long as they won't be contributing a song to the soundtracks.
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there is no way Lucas would try and pull this shit. He already has Jar Jar Binks appearing in this thing. If this is true is he trying to ruin Star Wars? Does he have some secret hatred toward it and wants some sick twisted vengeance against it and the people who love it? He seems to be trying every damn thing possible to ruin it. He called it "Attack of the Clones", it sounds like some 50's B movie(not that theres anything wrong with 50's B movies). Let's all just hope it isn't true and that the movie will put all our fears to rest. Still I think this project would be in better hands if Ed Wood was heading the whole thing up.
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Jan 02, 2002 4:26:44 PM CST
Don't justify this for being cool news just because their ch
by iamlegolas
This is just as bad as having Jefferson Starship... oh wait, that already happened in the Star Wars X-mas Special except it's happening in an actual Star Wars FILM! God damn you, Lucas, damn you to hell!
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The one that runs before FOTR? "A teenager in love"? And "Obi-wan holds me BACK!" Owwwww, that hurt. Jedi are forbidden to love women, but Anakin falls in love with Amidala? TEENAGE ROMANCE?!?!?!!!???!!!! Don't we have enough of Dawson's Creek on TV?
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Jan 02, 2002 4:26:55 PM CST
NSYNC HAS A BEER, PLUCKS THEIR EYEBROWS, GOES TO A BATHHOUSE, AN
by billy_zardus
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Harry. Honestly. N'Sync are about as glam as Liberace. On behalf of Todd Haynes and Marc Bolan I demand an apology for your callous misuse of that all-too-often callously misused word.
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FLARGH! If in fact N'Stynk is in the film, I may have to protest with my money and just not see the f*cker except on small screen. Unless they all die horrible, gory deaths. Even then, I'm cringing thinking of them dying, groaning in pre-fab, synthesized harmony. ==== Trying to picture an evil anti-universe where the Freaky Squeakies are actually the Hobbits & Gimli in TT. Can't do it realistically. But somehow after the lame announcer doing the pod races (and, yes, I happen to love Greg Proops anywhere else) and, evil upon evils, Jake Lloyd (the missing member of "Hanson"???) as Anakin, I don't put it past GL to include the Stynkies in his next opus. If he can cast possibly the worst child actor of the past several decades in a pivotal role in TPM, I'm sure he can cast possibly the worst excuse for a music group in ancillary ones. ==== I was hoping TCW would redeem GL in my eyes, but I fear the very worst.
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This has got to be a nasty rumor. Lucas can't be selling out like this. My heart goes out to all SW fans (I'm one too)! I sincerely hope this is not true. If it is, someone needs to tell him he's killing his creation for anyone over 18. The adult demographic will want nothing to to do with this movie. Tell 'em, Harry!
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Is anyone out there, after these three years of crap rumors and speculation, still looking foward to this film? Anyone?
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Jan 02, 2002 4:29:59 PM CST
Lucasfilm has NOT confirmed this. This is pure *rumour*....and
by smugbug
seriously. Check Corona's Coming Attraction. At least they are up to date.
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Still think of it as "The Clone Wars". Now it's going to be "Attack of the 50-Ft. Boy Band".
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And not until. This smells like BS. Of course, I wouldn't know NSYNC if they dropped by my desk at work and asked if I wanted an autograph (which, incidently, Mr. T did last month, what a weird day that was). By the way, this rumor has been floating around for a LONG time and I haven't seen confirmation of it anywhere.
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This is such a minor, minor thing...Now I'm a huge Star Wars fan but I knew all of you guys were going to be committing hara kiri upon hearing this....THEY'RE EXTRAS!!! THEY DO NOT HAVE SPEAKING PARTS!!! THEY WILL BE ON SCREEN FOR SECONDS!!!! Whats the big deal? It's not like he cast them in leading parts or even parts that play minor roles. It's no different than Lucas slipping ET in the Senate scene in TPM...If he's doing someting to make his stepdaughters happy then I say more power to him. What's the big deal? It's his movie. He's not selling out. He's having some fun. He's making his stepdaughters happy. He's letting two guys live out an ultimate fantasy. What's the harm in that? It's not going to have any impact on the film whatsoever. Just chill and enjoy the movie.
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Jan 02, 2002 4:36:41 PM CST
It was in the New York Post this morning (so it must be true)
by nflrefugee
considering Sir Rupert owns the Post and is distributing the film. I personally don't care, the article in the Post said that they are in the background, since I don't know what any of them look like anyway it really doesn't make a difference. I am not excited at all about AOTC. Trailer looks neat, but so did TPM. I'll probably get more excited by April or so.
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Jan 02, 2002 4:37:50 PM CST
Please god, if reincarnation exists PLEASE let me come back as J
by bigtuna
Then I can get inside of Britney!
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Having them in cameos is one thing. At least they won't be recording a song for the film or anything like that. I say, if Lucas wants to have them in there, just give them cameos and totally deck them out in mucho make-up, so that the regular public can't instantly recognize them.
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As far as I know they're just extras in an arena scene among many other jedis who die, so this is no big deal.
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The NSYNCH tie-in makes perfect sense. A whole new marketing segment for toys, coloring books and lunchboxes. Ah, the NSYNCH Star Wars figures in Jedi outfits. Hey, will the AOTC DVD include a NSYNCH video in the special features section? Why not hava Britney Spears as one of the queen handmaidens? The dream is over. Just hold on tight to your NON-SPECIAL-EDITION copies of the original three Star Wars movies and pretend the prequels never happened.
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... in Doug Camilli's column for what it's worth, though Mr. "Camilli" (a pseudonym) frequently lists rumours. But KMBH2476 is exactly right, they'll be on the screen for a fraction of a second, in a fight scene, I presume with other anonymous extras. If this still upsets you all, don't think of them as N'SYNC, just think of them as extras that happen to be members of N'SYNC. And, yes, Edward Rooney, there are still many of us who are very much looking forward to ATTACK OF THE CLONES. And, yes, I did love the PHANTOM MENACE, not a perfect film by any means, but neither were the first three. And, yes, I was lukewarm towards LOTR:FOTR, because that sort of fantasy just isn't my bag.
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Jan 02, 2002 4:46:22 PM CST
well, this confirms that lucas is a whore to his own kids wishes
by bumetalman
the more i hear, the more i am sure that the next movie will truly be called Episode 2 attack of the SUCK!
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Jan 02, 2002 4:49:52 PM CST
CONFIRMED ON TRL MOMENTS AGO BY IDIOT CARSON FILL-IN!!! THERE IS
by jollydwarf
GRANTED, I WAS NOT THE FIRST TO POST THIS ON AICN, BUT WHAT DID WE/I TELL YOU?! All because of Lucas' fatass daughter who probably had Hayden do a couple Jedi Tongue tricks on her to get the role! Again, I don't care if O.J. is on the screen for one second (Although Orith Maul would be funny), but Jesus Christ, what is he trying to do?! I've all but bailed for Lord of the Rings now. Ep II may still rock, but he keeps testing us...P.S. BIG shrill screams for N'Back, muted smattering of "Yeahs" for Star Wars on TRL. Here we go again....
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NSuck and do a video with Jar Jar like Will Smith and Men in Black. It would be GREAT! At least we have Lord of the Rings -- sigh -- someone spike Lucas' Geritol?
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The time has come for someone to knock Lucas off his throne.
I never thought I would say this, but if this rumor is true then Lucas really has no idea of what his fans want. I have always been violently protective of Star Wars and Lucas but I simply cannot accept this turn be it true.
I really enjoyed LOTR but it wasn't quite enough to replace Star Wars in my heart. If N'Sync is prominently displayed in the next film I WILL DEVOTE MY LIFE TO CREATING AN ORIGINAL FANTASY/SCI-FI CLASSIC THAT WILL GIVE US ALL WHAT WE DESERVE!!!
(I am going to school as we speak for this reason. Have faith friends; some of us feel the shadows surrounding us still.)
Granted their appearance may not even be relevant in the least and lets hope so, but for god sakes put Jet-Li in the film before you put in Mr. Timberlake. With a saddened and shaking head (until it is proven untrue).
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Jan 02, 2002 4:51:19 PM CST
Wait, I understand.....it's a plot against his daughter!
by general idea
Now George can blame her if AOTC sucks too. "I didn't really want to put Jar-Jar in these movies, honest! But my daughter looked at me with those pleading eyes and begged me to put him in! The Greedo-kid too! I swear!"
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It is a shame to see how the Star Wars Saga begun as a low budget movie that could have sucked but was great and will end as a big budget movie that could have been great but sucks. George, you still have a chance to turn things around, delay Ep II if you have to but please give it your best effort, otherwise you'll prove my theory that in your young age you were among the brightest of the Homo Sapiens and as you approach your old age you are nearing more and more the intelligence an ape.
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Nobody freaked out when my buddy was in the airport scene in "Dogma", No onw feaked when I was in "X-Files" Just like these two roles, no one even noticed we were there... If we had had speking parts we woulda probably ruined the movie but we were just IN THE BACK GROUND! Now you guys can't tell me that if you were young, goodlooking and were fucking ms Spears, and someone came up to you nad offered you p part in Starwars as a Jedi on the back ground you would say "no". I mean really, These guys were probably at the ranch, talked to lucas (and while they are a boy group, they are actually quite entertaining as "people")and So lukas offers them a part, lets them live out a fantasy (which while they are a boygroup, that doesn't mean they didn't grow up with this shit too). ah fuck it. I just wnat my Joey Fat One Jedi doll.
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Alright, I will tell why this is a bad idea...Even if they do get killed off, it would still be, by teenie-boppers, "Hey, Justin was in it, so it has gotta be cool!". Just because they "sang real good", does not mean they can, or should, act. It would just taint the credits and give them some standing. Plus, did anyone see "On the Line"? Well, neither did I.
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Lucas is probably doing this just to be spiteful of all of us poking and prodding into his recent creations.
Revenge is a dish best served cold. Which is certainly how I feel now. What an ungrateful bastard!
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Jan 02, 2002 4:58:02 PM CST
www.mtv.com/news/ just confirmed it. Rick McCallum gave them the
by darthpsychotic
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Jan 02, 2002 4:58:28 PM CST
Every man has his breaking point. George Lucas has reached his,
by sabreman
So now he lays casting decisions at the feet of his kids?
A cameo featuring quick death with no dialogue may just pass, but if these cretins get up and sing as some kind of in-film band in the style of sy snootles, the saga is lost forever.
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Will someone please put George Lucas out of his misery? The man has to be completely insane! Either that, or he has a bet with someone that he can make the worst movie ever, slap the name STAR WARS on it, and people will still flock to see it. I, however, will not be among them. N'STINK is the fag boy band that broke this camel's back. I refuse to see this movie, and I beg anyone who has any taste in movies to do join me in my boycott.
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http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1451630/20020102/n_sync.jhtml?headlines=true Sweet Lord, as Darth Psychotic said... MTV is claiming to have confirmation from Lucasfilms... How long till The Two Towers???
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Who care if those dudes are in it? As long as there in the backround, and I can't see 'em (not that I would recognize them), and the movie is good, why should anyone care?
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Okay, goddammit, this SUCKS. I'm a SW fan forever, but dammit, this really does fucking blow. This is capitulating raised to an art form. Why should we have to suffer because George's kids have no damn taste? Why not throw Slipknot into a cantina scene? Argh. I need an antacid. I'll see AOTC, but my expectations are geeatly reduced now. Maybe that was the intention. Even the die-hard fans (of which I consider myself to be) can't defend this one.
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Jan 02, 2002 5:13:01 PM CST
As long as they are all shown disembowled I'm ok with it...
by mully4ever
Yet another reason LOTR will overtake Star Wars.
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Jan 02, 2002 5:13:37 PM CST
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Killing is too good for the Nynch Jedi. It would be much more satisying if they were captured and became Jabba's sex slaves, being constantly violated by a 10 foot long slug schlong.
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Jan 02, 2002 5:14:01 PM CST
Looks Like Lucas Has Lost His Crediability, Oh Yeah We Get Anoth
by the founder
Sadly it's true, I heard it on MTV(Nsync's ass kissers,and far worse then Lucas ever will be, MTV made them who they are), They said it's been confirmed by Lucas Films. I have to agree with another, how much you guys bet they'll have special Nsync action figures? Lucus has no shame, and he doesn't care because he knows the movie will make money, and the sad thing is we'll all complain, but still go see it, hell most us would still go see it even if Lucas had given them major roles in the AOTC. As much as I and any of you hate to admit, their the biggest thing in music, and very popular, and if any of you believe that they are going to be made up where they won't be reconizable, then you need to take your head out of the sand, because why would he cast them just to deck them out in heavy makeup where they won't be reconizable for their action figures? Who in their huge fanbase would want to buy something they can't droll over. I hate the way Hollywood has become, no self respecting director would allow Nsync to even sweep up at the set. I could maybe forgive Lucas if he didn't have creative control, because at least I can have comfort knowing this is something the studio would do to cash in on popularity, but Lucas is the brains behind this move.
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Where's the King of Talkback when you need him?
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I'm sure they'll only be in the background....but....ugh....I don't even hate their music really, but this is kinda stupid...
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NSYNC is the most irritating of all the boy bands, and thats an achievment. Everytime one of them opens their mouth, whether it be to sing or to speak, it's like a sonic wave of stupidity and irritation. The backstreet boys, west life etc I can almost tolerate, but NSYNC...shit man...hopefully whichever Jedi knights they're playing will die in the most painful way possible. Maybe episode 2 can still be good, despite the cheesy title and NSYNC being in it. Maybe I'm just overreacting, considering their screentime will probably be about a split second. Hey, the rumour may even be false, just a horrible nightmare. But I gotta say that, even though I have no right to complain because star wars is Lucas's vision and he can do whatever he wants with it, it just seems that Lucas isn't taking his own vision very seriously, and cares more about pleasing his daughter than his fans.
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You want to know why this sucks so much? Imagine...1980...THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK...and KC and the Sunshine Band make their acting debut as Rebel forces who die at Hoth. "Shake shake shake...shake shake shake...SHAKE YOUR GUNDARK! SHAKE YOUR GUNDARK!" BOOM! Dead. THAT'S how much this sucks.
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When's SW Episode III coming out? Probably May 18th, 2005! Just 1233 days away baby!
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Read it just before I came here. Apparently they're big fans of the series and asked if they could be extras in AOTC and Lucas said okay. Remember, that's how Samuel Jackson got into TPM, he mentioned that he would love to be in a SW movie and Lucas made it happen. From what I read it's just a couple of the members and they're only in it for a couple of seconds. Hey look, I hate "boy bands" as much or more than some of you, but what's the big deal? Most of us probably won't even be able to pick out which ones are "Nsync" and which ones are the "real" actors. They're non-speaking extras for god's sake. Who's gonna give a shit other than twelve year old girls? Believe me, if Lucas offered me or one of you a non-speaking role in any SW film we'd jump at the chance. Why should the guys in a "boy band" react any differently? Get over it.
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Read it just before I came here. Apparently they're big fans of the series and asked if they could be extras in AOTC and Lucas said okay. Remember, that's how Samuel Jackson got into TPM, he mentioned that he would love to be in a SW movie and Lucas made it happen. From what I read it's just a couple of the members and they're only in it for a couple of seconds. Hey look, I hate "boy bands" as much or more than some of you, but what's the big deal? Most of us probably won't even be able to pick out which ones are "Nsync" and which ones are the "real" actors. They're non-speaking extras for god's sake. Who's gonna give a shit other than twelve year old girls? Believe me, if Lucas offered me or one of you a non-speaking role in any SW film we'd jump at the chance. Why should the guys in a "boy band" react any differently? Get over it.
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Jan 02, 2002 5:22:22 PM CST
For Those Who Have Been Wondering When The King Of Talkback Will
by darthpsychotic
Actually I don't consider myself the king/queen/king & queen/ of talkback, just maybe one of it's jesters. For those who have been wondering where darthpsychotic has been, well I have been busy bum-rushing various Starwars Fansite MessageBoard/Forums and defending Harry, Mori, and El Cosmico from time to time as well.
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at the end there was a sad song and the main character was crying! that would be sweet (NOT) I'm now going to gouge my eyes out for reading this!(and im not even a star wars nut!) oooooooooh i finaly get the title AOTC is short for atrocity!
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Jan 02, 2002 5:31:53 PM CST
They are extra's people. Stop crapping your pants about it.
by vicconius
I'm no big Nsync fan, but I'm not upset that they are an extra in AOTC. No one has a problem with unknown non-actors who are paid 50 bucks to be an extra, but someone that might actually draw in an audience that wouldn't normally be into Star Wars.... that's bad. Boohoo. Get over it. I'd be vying to get a role in the movie, however small if I were them too. Just think of all the young 16 year old poon that will need comforting when Justin takes a blast to the chops. JOKING PEOPLE!
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As long as they die horribly, throw 'em in, I say. 2 seconds of cannon fodder won't ruin a film!
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i thought i heard somone call what NSYNC does MUSIC! hahahahaha your kidding right! singing (badly might I add) does not eaqual music! none of them actually play an instrament! so they dont play music! and shut UP!
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Why?...I hate this! This is bad news, indeed. I declare, from this day forward, I will NEVER SPEND ANOTHER RED CENT ON STAR WARS!!! How could something so powerful and great turn into something so awful. I hate this movie and I've only seen a short trailer. Please...Please...Please tell me something that will change my mind. I want to keeping loving Star Wars. I really do. But I can't. It has entered into the realm of KIDDIE CRAAAAAPPP!
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I have had enough, and am now beginning to believe mercier was right. Star Wars is dead for me. Lucas can do what he likes, I now dont give a shit. STAR WARS R.I.P.
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Maybe I'm getting old but who are they? Are they a band? Ahh fuck it. As long as they die and don't have anything to say while doing it, who gives a shit?
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Dont ever sully the good name of GLAM by associating it with drivel like NSYNC. I would love to know what Fat Harry listens to on his own time.
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No good complexion can be put on this. This both blows and sucks. And to say that the timing for this is fucking unfortunate is to drastically understate the case. Now is the time the big dramatic guns should be being polished and oiled at Skywalker Ranch, for the increasing "darkening tone" that was promised. The vats of boiling oil should be bubbling now, the dark bowels of Lucas' empire lit through the night as script doctors solder and acting coaches drill their troops for reshoots. However, apparently part of that dark tone is the inclusion on IQ-less boy bands as gimmicks in the background. I would have thought LOTR would have raised the bar. And there is potentially a huge advantage there for fanboys and girls, cos it meant we could possibly have expected mo' better Star Wars. Seems the bar got raised, only Lucas is now going to be limbo-ing under it as opposed to going over the top. Well, maybe that's harsh (well, I saw TPM, maybe it's not *that* harsh) but damn... I'm absolutely *stunned*... My prayers go out to everybody. This is a dark day in geek history.
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Don't any of you get it? NSYNC are going to be the reason Anakin turns to the dark side! It's the big twist. "So Lucas, why does Anakin turn to the dark side? is it because of Obi Wan, because of Padme, because of his mother?" "No, it's because of NSYNC. HAHAHAHAH, bet you didn't see that coming" See, in the middle of the Jedi battle, Anakin's going to turn around and see the NSYNC members behind him, and he's going to cut them up with his lightsaber, and Yoda's going to banish Anakin from the Jedi (although secretly he'll be thankful Anakin did it because he would have been unable to resist doing it himself), or Anakin will be duelling with count duku, and count duku will say "join the dark side Anakin" "No, I'll never join the dark side" "what, would you rather be with them (points to NSYNC)" "On second thought, maybe the dark side wouldn't be so bad" or something along those lines. I knew Lucas had to have some kind of sensible reason for having NSYNC in the movie, though I don't know how I knew, because over the past few years he hasn't exactly had any sensible reasons for anything.
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There is evil in that child.
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I'm thinking Justin will look pretty sexy as a Jedi...
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Jan 02, 2002 5:52:50 PM CST
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
by rufus_t_firefly
Boy, oh boy. The fourth horse of the "This Is Going To Suck" apocalypse just trotted up to the Skywalker ranch. I just saw LOTR in the theater last night, and the Episode 2 trailer went over like a fart in an elevator. See you in line for SPIDER-MAN.
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Holy shitarrific fuckturds, this has GOT to be the nail in the coffin. Holy shit. Oh my god, what is he thinking? Sure I hate Phantom Menace like Kathy Lee Gifford, but I thought maybe.. MAYBE in my own personal universe I could eradicate..forget the Phantom Menace and start anew with The Clone Whatever (SWII).. but now.. I see.. that it is really over. Saints preserve the original trilogy - those who have the original non-special versions on vhs count yourselves lucky. Keep them close, dear ones, keep them close.. If a triple-chinned, bloated, crazy kenny-rogers look-alike comes a knockin' wanting to insert wuvable racist aliens or trendy boy-bands in the cantina scenes.. please.. STAB KICK BITE AND SHOOT AT THIS LUCASCREATURE UNTIL IT STOPS MOVING!!!!.. and even if it stops moving, don't assume it's dead! JUST RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The userid says it all...
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"I watch them in my arcade like laboratory rats hitting the goddamn feeder bar. But as long as they keep pumping in the quarters, who gives a sh*t, right?" - Noah, WAYNE'S WORLD
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Harry, it's amazing how you try to put a good spin on everything. Most critics try to hate everything, you try to like everything. Even when it's Star Wars with the Backdoor Boys, N'Stink, and Boyz2Women in the new Cantina scene. The Village People were the original boy band, and the only ones I wouldn't shoot dead on sight. I'd say I hope this is BS but it feels like something the new "Lucas" would do. The amount of screen time they get is irrelevant, their prescence alone confirms all the SW hopefuls' darkest fears. I think George's soul is captive in the dungeons of Bara Dur and being tortured by Sauron himself. I'll withold final judgement until I see it, but damn if that doesn't get harder every day. Lucas isn't giving us anything to defend him with. I can't wait until Mercier gets ahold of this one...
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Oh, God, I heard this a few days before and thought there was NO WAY. NO WAY. What a fall.
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Jan 02, 2002 5:55:24 PM CST
Y'Know, I'm Beginning To Think That Some Of You Hard Cor
by buzz maverik
Not that I ever thought he didn't and not that I think he's perfect now, but...maybe Lucas is really thinking of these as one movie and not completely making it up as he goes along. See, I watched EMPIRE recently. Personally I think the first one, which I just call STAR WARS and always will and will never call A NEW HOPE, was best, but EMPIRE was a Han Solo movie, no question. Yeah, Luke had some interesting things to do with Yoda and the Darth Vader tree, but it was a Han movie for Han-fans. JEDI, a good but highly flawed movie, was a Luke movie for Luke fans. Some of you have always looked on them as part of a whole, but I never did because I'm more interested in films in general than STAR WARS. But if you watch them together, even with different directors, they work better. I'm looking forward to watching THE PHANTOM MENACE with ATTACK OF THE CLONES. I've got a feeling that viewers will gain a new appreciation for EPISODE 1 without detracting from EPISODE 2. For the first time since I saw the EPISODE 1 trailer, I'm excited about STAR WARS. As for this boy band crap, I don't believe a word of it. Just because Hayden is good looking, we're hearing all this boy band crap. C'mon, what're they going to do, hire an ugly leading man?
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I never thought of Star Wars fans as geeky trekkies...until today. Almost everone I know who likes Star Wars would not be categorized as a space nerd. But reading this talkback I'm starting to think otherwise now. All this "I'm bailing from SW and going over to LOTR" like your on some team or something. People looking to movies like Twin Towers as some messianic message is just plain sad. You sound like all the nVidia vs ATI discussions I see. I feel like bloody Shanter on SNL. GET A LIFE PEOPLE. GET OUT OF YOUR MOTHERS BASEMENT AND GET A GIRLFRIEND!!! I'm going to go to AOTC come May and probably enjoy it. I'm also going to go to other movies and enjoy them. I still love the original trilogy, moderately like TPM and think I'll like AOTC. BTW, I agree with Cher. Lay off of Lucas' kids. If you had any you wouldn't be talking out of your ass like that. A father that takes his kids into consideration (in a way that doesn't effect the movie in ANY way I might add) has my respect. Man these talkbacks have gone to the dogs. Everyone describes themselves as geeks... that is an understatement. That's like saying Mount Everest is a bunny hill.
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who cares. as has been said a thousand times, these people are in the background, they are extras in the middle of a hundred others. and they die. this rumor doesn't excite me, and the only thing that really annoys me about it is the fact that its going to be fussed over for god knows how long. otherwise it really doesn't make a difference, at least not to me. so his daughter likes the "band", asked to have them in the movie for some bizarre reason, and lucas may have said, "eh, what the fuck, i'll have them killed and the fanboys should get a kick out of that." or whatever. i really don't see the reason for getting upset, but that's just me. and something i'm really tiring of is the constant mention of fuck star wars, i've got LOTR, or other such statements. i really don't see why this needs to be a contest for so many people, and said people must continue to shout about their standings. here's an idea, and i know im a radical, but go into AOTC when it opens and watch it, then take note of whether or not you liked it and to what degree. if you liked it, see it again, if not, don't. either way, come back here and discuss your opinion, preferably more in depth than a "rocks" or "sucks" estimation. then, when months pass by, see the Two Towers and enjoy LOTR's continuation. relax.
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*Pushes Vicconius out of the way as Sleepy_Woman barrels out of the talkback to puke her guts out all over GunsBlazing* Jesus on a croissant, DID YOU HEAR THE NEWS VICCONIUS? NSYNC .. N*FUCKING*SYNC is going to be on the same stage fighting with Yo*fucking*da and ObiWan! OH THE HUMANI... HUMANIT... H....*projectile pukes on Vicconius*
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Sorry to say
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Jan 02, 2002 6:02:40 PM CST
BTW, anyone catch the Star Wars slam in the trailer for Austin p
by evilnight
You remember... last year for AP2 it was, "If you see one movie this year, see Star Wars. If you see two movies this year, see AP2." Now, the AP3 trailer... "If you see one movie this year, see AP3. If you see two movies this year, see AP3 again." Mwahahaha.
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These people take things way too seriously.
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Guys, sounds like their "parts" are as big as Sofia Coppola and Spike Jonze's were in Phantom Menace. Chill out. Yeesh
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You people are just searching for things not to like. They will be in the background and probably no more noticeable than ET was in TPM. Not like there's going to be an obligatory cut to N'Sync fighting with sabers. Far back probably blurs behind Obi-Wan and Anakin. And hey, they die so good.
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Back again... but I am kind of shocked so bear with me. (Takes deep breath) Okay, this is looking like... I hate to say it. But SW fans of the AICN stripe are not the demographic that Lucas is interested in anymore. Loving it is becoming like, this, utterly dysfunctional relationship where you had fantastic times and it was the love of your life back in the day when you first got together, but now you sleep in different rooms and it comes home stinking of booze and cheap perfume from other women. Star Wars wants to see other people. Well, dammit. I just got dumped by a movie franchise. Time to play "I Will Survive" by Gloria Gaynor and drink vodka... hey, was it Gloria Gaynor in the SW Holiday Special? Eerie synchronicity if true.
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This is a cheap and ill conceived stunt. Marketing ploy? Let's not kid ourselves. Girls under 15 may sit up and notice, but it will definitely alienate every other target market. Next thing we'll be hearing is that N'SYNC will have their own song on the soundtrack. Listen folks, I saw SW in '77 the very first week it opened in May. I remember buying the souvenir booklet and the button. I remember coming out of the theater changed -- forever. I want my neices and nephews to experience that same feeling. N'SYNC has nothing to do with "A Long Time Ago, In a Galaxy Far, Far Away." Lucas should have more respect for himself and his work. Art should never have to compromise
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Lucas Should give em speaking parts in the movie
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All this time defending fucking Lucas this is what i got...pah.
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Time to get a life. In fact, rent Chris Elliot's Get A Life on DVD. You people could use a good laugh.
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Man, Lucas is turning into a big too. nsync in star wars? wtf? he is totally screwing up every aspect of episodes 1-3. can we all say Jar-Jar? he hasnt had a decent movie in forever.
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I think I'll also rent Phantom Menace and take a big steamy poo all over the screen as baby Greedo dances around jackassedly and "Annie" squeals "Yippee!!!" while accidentally blowing up things!!.. better yet I'll rent STAR WARS so I can see adult Greedo.. shoot first!! Nah, why not rent Lord of the Rings and give ourselves the mental enema needed to get this lucas-shite out of our brains and hearts!! Oh wait, that's not until august.. so I'm going to be Luc-onstipated until August?
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Star Wars is like the girlfriend you had in highschool. You loved her to death, then she moves away. 20 years pass and you've idealized her to the point of sainthood. She comes back, and no longer fits the godlike traits you've put upon her. She hasn't changed, but your attitude towards her have. It not her problem, it's yours. The first Star Wars were not high cinema, but they were great fun. Don't make Lucas have to make AOTC the Godfather or Citizen Kane. These are just fun swashbuckling movies and that's all they ever were. Sheesh.
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Only a few members are going to appear. The paper says that 2 members opted not to appear in this film as George also told them he had 2 cameo roles for ep#3 that they agreed to take.
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The idea of not seeing this film because N'Sync is in the background and supposedly not even noticeable for literally 1/2 second is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. The report says you just see them getting blown up in the background and it's "blurry". I think it rules now that I've thought about it. N'Sync getting blown up... isn't this what many have prayed for since they first appeared? God bless you Lucas. Dreams really do come true at ILM.
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but its the principle of the thing. Because they are such big names they will draw a lot of attention. If it was any of us in the cameo no one would give two shits about it. This is why it leaves such a bad taste in the mouth. If NSYNC somehow had relevance to the star wars universe then maybe this would be ok but they don't. This is pandering at its lowest level. It's just extremely aggravating that Lucas feels the need to pull off gimmicks like this. Now everybody will look to see when NSYNC dies instead of paying attention to, oh i don't know, maybe the PLOT. I'm not going to say anything like "Lucas raped my childhood" or any crap like that. I just feel that this is a poor decision. I would expect this of Michael Bay, not George Lucas.
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But more importantly, does Justin Timberlake have wings? **** Haha, you're linking to the Sun. This is self-parody right? Right? *** Anyway, after shitting the bed with Episode I and Episode II looking equally awful, I think Lucas should just go head and go apeshit with the series. N'sync is just the start. I mean we need: an all rap soundtrack (Jedi Rap? anyone) with Yoda rapping at one point; a jive talking sidekick; Ben Afflack as Anakin in Episode III; Tom Green, Carrot Top, and Chris Kattan as comedic relief; the Jar Jar dancers; breakdancing robots; and hmmm... I dunno, how about Robin Williams as the caring mentor with a goofy sense of humor, like Patch Adams or whatever the hell he was in Good Will Hunting... but with a lightsabre.
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I don't think that the Lucas camp states anything about this. I also don't think that N'SYNC's agent/publicist would ever agree to any on-screen demise. If anyone has site coordinates, do tell. I need a drink, dammit.
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If Nsync is going to be in Star Wars, I will never watch another Star Wars movie again. Haven't they learned their lesson with "On the Line" the worst movie ever made next to "Dude Where's my Car" and "Freddie got Fingered." I don't care if they are in heavy make-up, get their heads blown off, or freakin do Neo stuff. It would spoil the movie. This is a stupid rumor put up by some dumb teenaged girl that masterbates with Justin Timberlake's picture under her pillow. If it's true, Lucas get off the weed.
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,4-2001601540,00.html
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Two second cameo or no . . .the issue at hand here is the fact that Lucas is . . .Lucas is just . . .I don't know what the fuck Lucas is doing. Oh well. I've still got my THX remastered copies of the original trilogy. RIP Star Wars. Frodo Lives.
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That was like throwing chum to sharks. I have never seen the gimps and losers here go quite so mindlessly frantic as that before. You aren't real people, you are charicatures. As a film lover, I hate being associated with you socially inept pud pullers. Why don't you screaming idiots take it to the nearest comic book convention and argue about it with the other fat losers and give my poor eyes a break?
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Well, I never expected "Citizen Kane" or "The Godfather", and would be disappointed if SW tried to be either. But you know something I remember very clearly from when they first came out was how clear and consistent they were. They weren't self-referential, or smug, or packed with obscure pop culture references to please the grown-ups. They stood out a million miles from the rest of the field because they were... at the time people called them space opera. Yeah, it was this cornball story but it was played with absolute conviction. There were no hidden messages about the "issues of the day". They were singular and uncompromising and... well, yeah, visionary. Clear, simple, very beautiful pictures - Luke against the double suns, the sinking feeling in your stomach as the X-Wings go into the trench... That's why I think they haven't dated much. And that, in the late seventies, was a kiss like a sock in the jaw. And you know, they made a host of cheap imitations - "Buck Rogers" with its crappy disco stylings and "Battle from Beyond the Stars" with its Playboy centrefold, but they were all so *studio*, so mired in "What can we put in that sells? We don't understand what made SW successful, we can only make stuff that we UNDERSTAND, goddammit!" And SW wasn't like that... it was *cool*. And maybe all things change, but one thing I know for sure, anyone that can help me escape, and feel that way, and inspire me with what film and art can actually do and make me want to do it myself... well, that's a rare thing, and if you've got it, you should hold on to it like grim fucking death and not let go. And that includes nixxing the boy band cameos, and managing without the whole global corporate media demographic-appeal tie-in thing. Do what you want with the merchandising, but the film itself... well, anyway. No point labouring the point. I'm disappointed.
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I mean this shit here is a lesson in how to fuck up a fanboy's dream. I mean SW boys will get no tail while standing in line trying to see movie called Attack of the Clones. Now NShit is the movie. I mean fuck it Lucas just have Darth Maul and Anakin battle on an old luxury liner called the Titanic and call it a day. That motherfucker has lost his mind and deserves some medieval treatment for this lapse in judgement. Somebody call Ving Rhames so he can bend George over.
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Lucasfilm rep Lynn Hale, however, says that, while Lucas' daughters are big fans, "that didn't have anything to do with it." Hale says Justin, Lance, Joey, JC and Chris were big Star Wars fans, so they asked producer Rick McCallum if they could appear in the latest installment.
McCallum apparently found a spot for them, in "a big scene with lots of extras." But Hale says they have no dialogue, and they won't even be credited as extras when the film hits theaters May 16.
Still, the mere blip of an appearance by the Pop stars has set off a firestorm of talk on Star Wars Internet message boards.
"Please no. George, no. Please. Anything but the boy bands. Please," wrote one fan in a discussion on Star Wars news Website TheForce.Net. "Jar Jar I could handle. Not this."
Other fans, however, were actually willing to give Lucas the benefit of the doubt--assuming that any cameo with the 'N Syncers would be so brief that they wouldn't even be noticeable.
"If they're just in the background, I don't see what it would matter," writes another fan, known as Silac5. "Now, if they were to start having synchronized lightsaber battles and spontaneously bust out in song, then I would have to walk out of the theater."
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Well this cant be true. i mean george lucas must be somking some strong crack. After reading this and finding out if this is true i will not be seeing episode TWO. Personally i think we should be calling Lord of The Rings the holy fucking trilogy.Because it seems that Star Wars has become more Man than Machine now. I mean it seems that Star wars has more links to coprations than does it to it,s fan . I mean whats next the backstreet boys play all of Blofelds sons in the next james bond movie. If this is true this is a sad day for fandom . Fuck you George Lucas -
Bourbon, anyone?
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Jan 02, 2002 6:44:34 PM CST
The oldest daughter inspired th Ewoks, and the adopted son inspi
by mgthedj
OK. History time. George adopted his oldest daughter after ESB. She was about 2-3 at the time. For her he changed the Wookies to Ewoks, and then added Chewie doing the Tarzan call. Now when I was 13 in May 1983 laughed at that joke. But now I realize it doesn't fit. That heavy a pop culture reference is out of place in the mythos of the story. Cut to 1996: George's youngest is 4-5 years old and as Lucas works on the re-release he sees Solo shoot first. Problem: he's afraid his kid will freak if "Uncle Harrison" kills the alien in such a cold blooded fashion. Thus alter the scene so "Greedo shoots first". In conclusion, both Lucas and Spielberg in the name of protecting their children have changed their filmmaking styles and are kid-proofing their PG films. It's getting harder and harder to defend them.-----later-----m
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Remember when Alec Guinness was going to provide the voice for a computer generated Obi Wan?
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which it probably will.
"ani? is that you?, my, how you've grown"
please, titanic had better dialogue.
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Oh well, the 'Star Wars' prequels couldn't be saved anyway. It would suck having the entire 'Star Wars' DVD (or video) collection and thinking: "Ah, every episode of my favourite film series... it's a pity 'Episode 1' was the biggest load of cow shite this side of the sun..."
This is really terrible news and I guarantee that we will not see the members of Armagn'sync dying. George won't show anyone dying in his films - he's gone pansy on us. Sorry for the negativity, but I actually think that I don't respect George Lucas anymore, and that's a big thing...
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Jan 02, 2002 6:49:20 PM CST
HOLY FUCK THIS IS INCREDIBLE!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!! HOLY SHIT!!!!!
by sidneycarton2
THIS WILL RUIN STAR WARS FOR GOOD!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!! PLEEEEAAAAASE LET THIS BE TRUE!!!! (Although this hast he smell of bullshit written all over it....) hehehehe....
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I'm still ROFL from your post. It's quite possible Luca$ has conceded that the prequels are crap, and is now having fun with it, going out of his way to antagonize the Ep.I critics with this shite. I also like the theory he has gone insane like Howard Hughes. After the NSYNC decision, casting Ben Affleck as Anakin in Ep.III would be A STEP IN RIGHT DIRECTION. Putting in NSYNCH is Luca$'s final middle finger to the late twenty and thirtysomethings that grew up with the original flicks. So long, George. Good luck with your new demographic: people with AOL personal pages devoted to nsynch. And to the apologists whose argument is always "Star Wars belongs to Lucas, we have no right to question his judgement", you're right. If Luca$ chooses to make SW a joke, let him do it. Here's a publicity shot of Nynsch dressed as the queen's handmaidens:
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Thanks, Butch. I could use a shot. Interesting, though, after all this time, people are so passionate about SW. GL definitely did something right, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...
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Jan 02, 2002 6:51:59 PM CST
It's just a little airborne....its still good...its still go
by xthecrovvx
OK....it'll be ok...confidence a little cracked, but im cool....I'm remaining calm...everything will pan out ok in the end...and I'm with the general consensus, as long as they stay their asses in the background, or, if they do get some spotlight, they die sweet, wonderfully horrible deaths, its not a total loss....but the principle of it....that Lucas would bend his will to his 13 year old brat....when he KNOWS how much rides on this movie...and for something so fucking DUMB, too...i mean, put it in perspective....imagine if, in FOTR, Peter Jackson's father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roomate was a Limp Bizkit fan, and all of a sudden, boom, Fred Durst is playing a hobbit....i dont think it'd take away much from the final product, but what it says to the hardcore is that this story isn't important enough to maintain some sense of integrity, not to be distracted by some unnecessary cameo. If you can whore out space in your story for some second rate performer's face in the crowd, who knows what else you might wind up sacrificing in your haste....and even then, you know what? I don't even think its the fact that some celebrity's got a cameo...its the fact that it's NSync...what those hemmorhoidal ass-bandits represent....its bullshit, and without a point...goddammit, Lucas, wake up, come back from the dark side of the Force...a boy band does not belong here, whether your daughter thinks so or not...listen to your fans. Trust us. We know best. Watch what you sacrifice. But like the subjetc line says...its just a little airborne...its still good...its still good...Revolution is my name...
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Jan 02, 2002 6:52:20 PM CST
And if a talkbacker told you to jump off a bridge would you?
by rumpieguy
Listen. This rumour is total bunk. No way in Hell NSYNC make cameos as Jedis or as a band in the canteena or piles of wookie crap...you think if Lucas's daughter liked Barney the Dinosaur, he'd have Obi wan in a saber duel with the big purple dufus? Get a grip on reality people....you've all been watching too much E! television and reading too many tabloid rags. What a bunch of brain dead gossip goons.
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This decision to put N'Sync is Lucas' ultimate revenge on those who bashed TPM. Know how a jealous ex-spouse will plot and think hard about the BEST way to make their ex angry as heck? They plot it...specific...what specific thing will create maximum damage. It seems like Lucas did that here. There's no reason that he couldn't have given this honor to some obscure garage band or some local Marin County lounge band. But no, he gives it to N'Sync, who epitomize everything we love to hate about the teen pop industry and the 'Britney industry.' What is Lucas thinking? If N'Sync is clearly visible to the audience, it is the biggest slap in the face one can think of. Casting directors and common sense directors know what 'context' means. It means you don't make a film about the Italian Renaissance and put Bruce Willis in as Michelangelo. You don't make a serious World War II film and cast Mike Myers as Adolf Hitler. You don't make a film about the Nuremberg Trials and cast Rodney Dangerfield as a judge, no matter HOW SERIOUS he treats the role. Common sense. You're not gonna see Hitler, you're gonna see Austin Powers. We had this retarded discussion with Leo DiCaprio as Anakin Skywalker. No one is gonna look at Anakin and not think about "Titanic", brainless teenyboppers, and Leo's overinflated talent. While we're at it, let's cast Bernie Mac as President of the Republic for Episode III. So when we look at him, instead of thinking about the fall of Vader, we'll remember that we bought 'Original Kings of Comedy' at Target for $9.95. I think Lucas is a scorned spouse, folks, and you're the ones, right or wrong, that he's gonna get revenge on. Let's hope he gets no more ideas on cameos. Enough with the cameos. The TPM cameo at the end was lame. It practically sang out 'hey look at the makers of Star Wars, that few people give a darn about!'
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Fuck George Lucas pandering his fucking narcissistic daughter. Seriously, I'm not going to watch Episode Two. And yes, I am a Star Wars fan. I own Episodes Four, Five, and Six. I USED to watch them religiously. Tomorrow they will be in the garbage. Call me shallow if you want. I already know I am. Pathetic? Perhaps. However, I will not be a sellout. I will not become something which I despise. LUCAS already fucked us all over with Jar Jar Binks. I stood in line for two hours to see Episode One for that annoying piece of shit. Listening to Jar Jar is like someone running their nails against a chalkboard. That was the last and only time I watched Episode One. Now, Lucas is going to fuck Episode Two for us. Which means I'm throwing away all my Star Wars and Lucas related shit, except my Indiana Jones box set of course. Yes, everything Star Wars is shit now. Lucas sold out and I feel like a piece of shit owning anything Star Wars. Just think, fans of N'EACHOTHER will own the same Star Wars shit as we do. I can't even force myself to accept that the mentally challenged soulless nothings who listen to the boy band prefabricated rubbish are actually human beings. I don't know about you people, but Lord of the Rings replaced Star Wars for me. Fellowship of the Ring is better than any Star Wars movie made to date. I also know Peter Jackson won't cast the Backdoor Boys in The Two Towers. This is just one more chapter to add to the vast book that Lucas doesn't give a shit about you or me. All he cares about is selling tickets and pandering to his egotistical daughter. Yes, directors should care about their fans. I know Peter Jackson cares about Tolkien fans. One example would be Jackson saying Tolkien fans would crucify him if he changed the name of The Two Towers (b/c of the WTC attacks). I TRULY BELIEVE LUCAS' DAUTHER'S FIRST WORDS WERE "JAR JAR" AND GEORGE CREATED BINKS AS A SPITTEN IMAGE OF HER.
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These guys have much more important projects in the can. Like, for instance... "Baby Geniuses 2!" Now that
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You know in some ways maybe George is tinkering with us fanboys. Maybe there is a light at the end of the chunnel. We have a dumbass title, Boy band cameos, now if we can get Mel B aka Scary Spice to wear her tounge ring and give Sam Jackson and Yoda table dances, I will see this movie 1000 times. All jokes aside there are some things which make this film way better than TPM. I say pile on Georgie and let's hope that he shuts us the fuck up in May 2002 with a movie that will make us bust big loads.
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Jan 02, 2002 6:56:37 PM CST
Lost: one artistic integrity. If found, mail to Skywalker Ranch
by skeejay
WTF is Lucas doing? Does he even realize that anyone who's seen the first three movies is going to see these? I think the think that pissed fans of the first trilogy off was when they realized that TPM wasn't made for them. On top of that, it wasn't about the story anymore. The Gungans weren't necessary, but Lucus wanted to computer generate an entire battle. Hell, as damn cool as Sam L. Jackson is, all Lucus had to do to create Mace Windu was give Jackson some of Yoda's lines and a name that had appeared in a first draft of A New Hope. And now that Lucas is taking orders from his 13 year old daughter, we might just break that tie. It'll be Sucky SW Movies 3, Good Ones 2. Get Irvin Kershner to direct Ep 3; I don't care if he's 80, just give him what he wants. And someone find Lawrence Kasden.
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I seem to remember that
Greedo shot first in the book ...
I personally liked it better
that Han shot first.
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I TRULY BELIEVE LUCAS' DAUTHER'S FIRST WORDS WERE "JAR JAR" AND GEORGE CREATED BINKS AS A SPITTEN IMAGE OF HER.
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Brokentusk: >
Yeah, you're right. I mean look at Episode I. It's not like the lead character Qui-Gon, or Darth Maul, died during the final fight. Oh wait... it is. Online "fans" create their own reality. -
I basically agree with everything in your post about why the original trilogy was so good. I just think that a couple of extras does not cheapen the film in any way at all. I probably won't even notice them. If Nsync was in the movie without any prior publicity and you loved the film, then later you found out that a couple extras in the background were Nsync, would you stop liking the movie? It just seems like typical talkback overreaction.
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BTW, Mercier, consider yourself spanked by the king of sell-outs, George Lucas!!!
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Vicconius, the point here is not that Fat One and his bitches are going to be in the movie. In the grand scheme of things, I could care less about that part. The simple fact that Lucas would put them in the movie is just utterly disgusting. {lucas to himself} "Okay, EPI didn't outgross Titanic...how can I take back the title with EPII?" If this was nothing more than a favor to his daughter, he would have asked the band for their silence until after the release of the movie. Why do that though? Now a bunch of 12 year old girls will pay to see the movie 15 times to figure out where Lance has Fat One bent over a pod racer. Jesus Christ on a Cracker.
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I don't understand something and it really bugs me. Some of you say you will not see Episode 2 when it comes out. Why? Why can't you see the movie? You don't think it will be any good so you won't see it? You won't go... you just won't. "No I'm not going!" "I'll go see Spiderman again, but I refuse to see the new Star Wars film just because!" So you've never gone and sat through a movie you didn't like or though you may not like? There's just no reason to say you won't see it at all. "I don't like that N'Sync may be in the movie even though I'll never notice.. It's the idea that they are there so I won't see it. Fuck Lucas!" Oh God get over yourselves. Are there any other movies you "refuse" to go see? I wish I could take names of you people and somehow make sure you didn't go see AOTC when it comes out. You said you'd never see it. That's bold so you'd better live up to it. Don't go... while everyone else is seeing it, stay home. Read LOTR again or watch your laserdisc copies of the classics while everyone else is watching the latest chapter of Star Wars. Anyone who says they won't go is a liar or is just looking for a reason not to like Star Wars.
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George Lucas is currently being blown by Justin Timberlake while Britney Spears is in the corner, complaining that her ass won't fit into anymore pants because they all keep fucking ripping. Meanwhile, the Backstreet Boys are all over the couch, doing each other in the ass, and spewing their loads all over George Lucas's face, one by one......... "Use the Force, Justin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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You are shallow and pathetic!
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It's true!!! Butt Backender will be PERSONALLY training these young buns to service ALL the monastic Jedi MEN!!!!!!!!!...http://www.geocities.com/buttbackender/ButtBackender.html
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Isn't this, like, one of the Seven Signs of The Apocolypse?
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Its the only reason why NSYNC would be in the film. He fooled us all. He knew it was over.
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There is going to be a big battle scene!!! Ain't it cool!?
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..Maybe he can beg daddy for a Natalie Portman nude scene.
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Wow, this Butt Backender stuff is starting to sound like it's for real!
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I'd like to take this opportunity to unveil the Sophia Scale which measures dumbass moves by directors, usually at the behest of wives, kids and other hangers-on. It's named for Sophia Coppola who's insanely uninspired casting doomed what should have been a good movie - Godfather 3. One Sophia = one unit of directorial stupidity. For instance, Jar Jar Binks = 10 Sophias - in other words, JJB was ten times worse than GF3 because - he used up lots of screen time, at least Sophia was attractive and he's completely the creation of one man - you can't even blame nature. You can also have partial Sophias for just fairly dumb stuff. I would rank the N'Sync mess a .5 Sophia because it's unnecessary and it's pandering - but it's likely to be quick. However, if any of them turn up with the name of Mace or Attillies - then it could go at least 5 or 6...
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'cause if you do, there's this thing called life and, well, you're missing it. Sure, Lucas has lost his touch. Just point to the Special Editions of the first trilogy for all the evidence you need - Greedo shooting first, Luke's girlyman shriek as he jumps, the fact that the Ewoks were not digitally deleted--you know it, I know it, he knows it, but no one cares, because Attack of the Clones will still make $400 mil and we'll all see it early in the run, if not day one, me included (although unlike many others who are bitching about this, I'll probably stop at one viewing).
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Someone else mentioned that the prequels would never measure up to the first 3, and they were probably right.
That Lucas saw fit to use a boyband in one of his films is his own business, I suppose; if you don't like it, then don't go see it.There's certainly enough fan fiction and small-time rebel filmakers out there who can bring thier own 'vision' of what they think Episode 2 should be to light.
I'm just saying...the man's getting paid. Can't player-hate him for that. You're buying the tickets and the videos.
Personally, I'd like to see geeks pool thier resources together and come out with a 'renegade' version of Episode 2. Get look-alikes for the characters you need them for, and new faces for the rest.
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This is all because Lucas cut BUTT BACKENDER from later drafts of Episode II - COME OUT OF THE CLOSET GEORGIEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jan 02, 2002 7:14:24 PM CST
Talkback circa 1979 (WHAT! FRIGGIN BILLY DEE FRIGGIN WILLIAMS!!!
by vicconius
What is Lucas thinking. Getting this dude from Mahogany??? What's next Michael Jackson from the Wiz along with anyone else that worked with Diana Ross? Do you know where you're going too? I know where Star wars is going too. Hell. Luca$ can screw my ass. I also hear that the Emporer is going to be played by a WOMAN! Lucas has just lost me. I'll be standing in line for Flash Gordon when that comes out. I'll never watch another Star Wars movie again. Not even episode 9. At least we have Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers. Those movies will never disappoint us geeks. (Editors note. Thank God talkbacks weren't around in 1979.)
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Jaxxman, is this for real? Was Lucas really planning to introduce a gay character in Episode 2? I heard that rumor a few months ago, but thought it was a joke.
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Wouldn't want to piss of the aspiring director.
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Thank you for the compliment.
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Jan 02, 2002 7:18:44 PM CST
Talkback circa 1979 (WHAT! FRIGGIN FOZZIE BEAR IS A MASTER JEDI
by vicconius
The guy that trains luke is a MUPPET! WHAT IN LUCAS' NAME IS GOING ON. I will not be standing in line for Empire Strikes Back. What's next. Kermit as the Emporer. This is what you get when Luca$ panders to kids. I bet his nephews and nieces had something to do with this abomination. He's only trying to appeal to kids. I'm chucking all my Star Wars LP's in the trash tomorrow. Call me pathetic or shallow. NO MUPPETS IN SPACE. I bet they'll make a whole movie about Muppets in space someday. What's next? Mark Hamil on the Muppet show pretending to be Luke's twin cousin. This is just SICK!!!
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just for perspective - does it really matter if the seat-back trays are in the 'upright and locked position' as the plane hurtles toward the ocean at 500mph? didn't think so.
brought the folks to FOTR this past weekend... 2/3 of the way through the AOTC trailer, my mom says in all seriousness, "is this the next star wars???" classic. -
Nah... we got dumped mate. I promise you. Not the other way round. A celebrity cameo is a distraction in drama. It just is. But, we now have this new SW where stuff like this is okay, because, hey, it's not like SW is any good or anything. Well, that's simplifying the point, but its clearly not the clear, consistent escapist vision the first two movies were. Now, I can understand Lucas loathing hard-core fans, rich though they have made him. Hard-core fans can be really hard to love, as I'm sure TBers occasionally find. I'm not going to say something dumb like, "I will NEVER see this movie." but I think it's a real shame, because I would have been really looking forward to it, and now, I'm kind of, "Oh well." And as much as Peter Jackson takes me to all the stores in the mall where I want to shop, buys me fancy lingerie, and sends me roses, I do have a SW-loving component. There's no denying it. Oh well. Did someone mention bourbon?
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You nailed it Alice. "Disappointment." Disappointment is really the emerging shroud that's enveloping the Star Wars mythos. The "old" Lucas would never have even considered something like this. He shunned main stream like the emotionless, talentless, gutless pariah it is; that engulfs most film, TV, and literature. Come on Lucas, don't give in to the dark side. Cause folks, this be it. If you don't think so... can you spell "denial?"
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ROFL picturing you in a sweaty frenzied panic trying to think of examples from the original series. Keep up the good work! Come up with 20 more in the next 60 seconds. GO!
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You're killing me!
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What's up with that? I hope this is just a BBS rumour. Does Luca$ have to ruin everything? I never thought of Vader as human at all, now he's siring kids. What next, Leia is his SISTER? Damn Lucas in going too far. I'll be standing in line for Porky's, not ESB.
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Oh bitches. Bitches, bitches, bitches...lol...LOL, lol... SCHOOL, BITCHES! IN SESSION!...LOL! Well, what BITCHES, what did the KING just DECREE last week? That's right, pay up bitches, pay up, pay up. The KING decreed Lucas' kids had a hand in ANI-SYNC and what do we learn later? Yes, BITCHES that N'SYNC themselves are in the flick! Like I been saying, Lucas and ILAME are walking, talking SELF-PARODY. Lucas just sits at Skywalker Ranch all day pushing the "Mess It Up Good, Mess it REAL Good Button" over and over...LOL...Bitches, bitches, bitches... ALL he HAD TO DO was make a STAR WARS flick...LOL... So, Ewan McGregor's Greatest Career Regret Pt II will have a boy band fighting at his side, huh? LOL... I CANT WAIT for the press to talk to McGregor about this one! I mean, let's face it, bitches -- he's brow beat the STORY, the CHARACTERS, the WRITING, the "ACTING METHODS," and TITLE! LOL! Oh bitches, why do you school SO EASY? Why is it that GENERAL JACKSON is your ONLY hope? G'nite, Lucas, G'nite ILAME, G'nite, Bitches... as if it wasn't bad enough on Dec 19 when Fellowship opened and BLEW YOU INTO IRRELAVANCE, now Lucas is SCHOOLING HIMSELF and YOU! LOL!!! And you, BITCH, in the NEW CENTURY, were greeted by a BROW-BEAT and SCHOOLING at the hands of the KING of TALBACK! Whip-TASH! (The Balrog's bullwhip, snapping some bitch in a Darth Maul tshirt in the ass in honor of my departure)
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George has a very clear vision about the story of Star Wars that he won't allow to be swayed by the whims of the Internet, the media, critics or anyone. The Internet rumors this time around are possibly even more funny and off base than they were for the first film.
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The point, GunsBlazing and all the rest of you, isn't that N'Sync is in a blurry shots for a millisecond. The point is that Lucas thinks it's a good idea to put N'Sync in a blurry shot for a millisecond. Star Wars is a story we- and by we I mean pretty much everybody here- have a large emotional investment in. We are who we are today in no small part because of Star Wars. And this is a betrayal. That's ridiculously melodramatic, maybe, but dammit that's what it feels like- a betrayal. Lucas wouldn't have two fucking nickels to rub together if it weren't for kids like me (and you and you and you) who went and saw Star Wars dozens and dozens of times and told everybody we met in '77 about the best damn movie ever made and how they had to go see it. If that puppy had tanked he'd be working at a car wash in Pasadena right now. As far as I'm concerned, the least he owes us is to stay true to his muse, but instead he skull-fucks her with crass marketing decisions like this. N'Sync being in the movie DOES matter, precisely because their act is the embodiment of everything A New Hope wasn't- soulless corporate whoremongering. To flip the analogy on its head, this would have been like giving Saddam Hussein a cameo in Saving Private Ryan. And quite frankly, I don't think it's an over-reaction on anyone's part if they declare this to be the reason they will not see Attack of the Clones, because I'm right there myself. Lucas, by demonstrating beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is only interested in my money and not in the joy I get from his storytelling, has ensured that he will get neither.
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Jan 02, 2002 7:27:00 PM CST
Talkback circa 1982 (I KNEW IT. I HEAR LEIA IS LUKE'S SISTER
by vicconius
First Vader is his father, now Leia's his sister? I've had it. Star Wars Has gone to pot. What next, Han was his babysitter? Enoughs enough. I'll be in line for Grease 2. At least nothing could go wrong with that film. Luca$ has just lost another customer.
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not because you say dumb things, hell, most people in this TB have done that one time or another, it is what you say makes no sense, and you think they do, and you think they prove a point, and you think you are really the KOTB, that is just sad.
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Jan 02, 2002 7:28:22 PM CST
HOLY SHIT MOTHER FUCK WHY WHY WHY SHIT ASS DAMN HELL FUCKER!!!!!
by masamune
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Star Wars never really was *all* *that* good to start with. Really, it was pretty much just dumb popcorn fun.
We loved it because we were kids and didn't know any better. We love it now because we're nostalgic. But we're not talking high cinematic literature - we have LOTR for that, when it comes to geek-interests. If devoted Trek fans were the pimply skinny science nerds of this genre, then devoted Star Wars fans always were riders on the short bus of fandom.
I'm not condemning the original trilogy - just seeing it for what it was. Dumb fun. The only way people could say Lucas raped their childhoods is if Star Wars *has* *always* been for children - though it was only after the steaming pile of carrion that was TPM before Lucas would admit it, and even then as an excuse for producing something that didn't even come close to living up to the dumb fun that was the original three. -
Thankfully, there is one director by the name of Peter Jackson that puts the fans and the integrity of the story first... NSYNC in Star Wars? That's just GAY... ONWARD TO THE TWO TOWERS!!!!
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Jan 02, 2002 7:35:51 PM CST
Talkback circa 1976 (New Journal of the Whills film going to be
by vicconius
I hear the new space film by George Lucas is going to include at least one actor from American Graffiti. Ford something. What's next? Ritchie Cunningham as a space robot? I heard good things about this movie, but now I don't now. Plus I hear the lead is a reject from Eight is Enough. What's next, the cast of One day at a Time? I think we will never get a good space movie.
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[big fan of the first three. keeping my original vhs thx copies hidden... the true vision!]
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here is an idea...
-!- just don't see SW:Attack of the Clones on the opening week it comes out.
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Let it have a very low opening week... let lucas sweat a little.... "oh shit!" Don't feed him with box office smashes.half of you will go see it anyway... just to say you saw it first. well.. you are all masochistic! It will never be as good as the first 2. [no - will you won't be young again either]
oh - Go see LOTR a couple times more... "lusac here is a movie with some meat." if you din't like it...er... well, least of all no JAR JARs or boy bands. but send a message with something lucas understands... money!
after the Phantom... well, i'm not surprised with this. FYI - ewok is never spoken in the movies... but is a house hold word... it is all about marketing.
only thing i'm going to see "clones" for [a week after it opens] is to see Natalie Portman's new outfit...damn! [that is on the same level as the boy band]
what do i expect a good story... hahahahahahahaahahahahahaha! character development! hahahahahahhahah
and it is getting even to the point of...
i don't care about ILM's effects either! hahahahahahahaha
They are losing to alot of other houses for effects [The Matrix took it the year of "Phantom"]
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Ya know, it's interesting to see some people here bringing up the "LOTR losers are no better than SW losers"
arguement in a lame attempt to obscure the issue (specifically, that AOTCisGonnaSuck). But let me continue your analogy:
If Peter Jackson ever decided to make a LOTR prequel "The Hobbit" 1) featuring an obnoxious CGI Gollum acting
stupid and annoying every other scene for the whole damn movie 2) replacing the somber, opressive tone from the story with
saccharine imagery colored using a palette straight out of a crayola box 3) featuring fart jokes (and poop jokes!! Hahahaha!!!)
4) introducing a 'love story' that looks like it has been lifted direclty from 'Dawson's Creek' 5) Re-writing and destroying beloved villain Saruman's
backstory (he's now an eight year old clone!!! Isn't he fucking cute!!!) 6) replacing the Battle
of Five Armies with a dodge-ball game fought by 'roger-doger' goblins 7) pandering to the training-bra crowd with boy band cameos - and I could go on -
then you know what? Maybe I'd bitch about Peter Jackson's pathetic prequel trilogy too!
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Nice going George... First a 2 hour toy commercial, now a boyband vehicle. Now try to get Celine to sing the damn love theme and have Britney join the cast to sing the worst version of I love Rock
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I just love it when people make corrections for others. It's as if they want to just come out and say, "I'm better than you". "I'm a magnificent elitist, others must bow before me." As shallow and pathetic as I may be for wanting to burn all my Star Wars shit, I would never stoop to an elitist shallowism of thinking I
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i know that my $8.50 will hardly be missed but if enough people put their money where there mouth is and just DON'T GO then maybe it would hit home. the idea will catch on that "genre" movies and tv shows won't necessarily have a built in audience eager for cool effects regardless of poor content. god, show a little restraint and don't reward a film if you feel it insults you're intelligence. i wish that i hadn't paid to see episode one and i'll be damned if i'm going to give a dime to "Episode II - Melrose Space"
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You know what the KING really LOVES, bitches? That Lucas and ILAME are SELF PARODY and that's no stretch, but an OFFICIAL DECREE FROM YOUR KING. LOL...think about - no matter what you hear, something like - Fran Drescher to voice Empress in TPM III - MIGHT just be true. LOL! You know what I mean, BITCHES? Do my loyal SUBJECTS recall last week when some Twatty Nelson told us NSync were going to be in TPM II? We all that, "Yeah, maybe." You couldn't even SCHOOL the BITCH, because LUCAS schooled him himself if it was TRUE! And it WAS!!! LOL!!!! Oh bitches...bitches, bitches, bitches ---PLEASE, get out while you still can. LOTR is just now theaters! Two more flicks to go and I promise you GENERAL JACKSON won't be having any cameos that will look 'unnoticable' like Falco and the Go-Go's would have in Jedi in '82...lol. SCHOOLED! HOw much you bitches and resident Twatty Nelsons want to be that McGregor finds a way OUT of TPM III? I promise, bitches, when McGregor passes away, his last words will be "Script fragments....all I ...ever saw were fragments. Thought...thought it would be like the old one...Im so...so sorry...I didnt know...so sorry." LOL...Oh bitch, why? Why what? Why were you just SCHOOLED by (put your mouse over my user ID and then where my email address shows up, read my name, but not the @part and pretend I didnt tell you to do this) WHIP-TASH! (Lucas borrowing the Balrog's bullwhip to brow-beat you bitches, thinking it would be a GREAT idea - the Balrog takes it from himm, snaps it in honor of my departure, then hands it back to Lucas who continues)
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Bourbon nearly gone now. Shite! Where's that fuckin' Pinch whiskey I been savin' for a special occasion. hic.
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A- In another article at theforce.net it says Nsync came to mccallum. B- They are only in it for half a second dip shits. C- This makes me more excited as (seeing as i am spoiler free) i now know we see the downfall of many jedi in this which is fucking awesome. D-Now Mr McCallum, if u read this, if u give soo many people roles as extra jedi in the next film give me a goddamn call, i live in Oz and not only would it be awesome but i would be a kick ass jedi.
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LOL...just a DECREE for my loyal subjects - LOL...QUICK, someone get Lucas' kids a Cure Album, some Poe, some Plath poems, and TPM III just MIGHT have a few saving graces. LOL... And you were given EXTRA CREDIT by the KING of Talback! THWAAAP! (Legolas' arrow, hitting its mark, some bitches "Rise of the Empire" fan-fic script in honor of my departure)
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You got your KOTB title from that enya TB from a LOTR article, you bashed LOTR and praised SW and talked about how much it would kick LOTR's ass when it comes out in May, now, all signs are pointing towards this movie being absolutely terrible, and in yuor last 2 post's you make no sense and are babbling like an idiot, if yuo wanna keep that KOTB title, please try to make sense, it sounds as if you arent even a SW fan anymore (wouldnt that be ironic?)
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This cannot be true. Unless it has been confirmed by Lucasfilm and George Lucas himself, i won't believe it. No one pisses on their original fans in order to bring in others. At this rate, and if the rumor is true, Lucas had better start thinking about Episode Three going straight to video because of the mass suicides this one will cause.
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Remember, I have admitted I did not think GENERAL JACKSON could pull it off, but he DID, and I did NOT see the 90210 In Space trailer during the ENya talkback. When is Harry going to post my "Tori Spelling to Complete Love Triangle in TPM III" article? LOL! No, but I did send Harry this NSYNC piece a few days abo, why not give the KINGS DECREE instead?
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It's the natural order of things for people, especially guys, to bag on NSYNC, but what really feeds your hatred of them? Some will say it's fanboys jealous that chicks like them, and that's to some degree true. But mostly it's this bogus notion of how they fail in our expectations of musicians as "serious artists of integrity." No doubt a Tom Waits or Bob Dylan or Sting appearance in the film wouldn't be greeted with such anger, and indeed they have respectable acting careers, because they're perceieved as artists, where boy bands are considered flavor of the month jokes who lip sync, wear fruity outfits, and can't even write their own songs. True, but that makes it OK to bash the Britneys and Justins because they're commodities, not real artists, like....WHO? I mean, seriously, what pop musician is really THAT profound? Dave Matthews? The Boss? Sheryl Crow? Zach de la Rocha? Ja Rule? Madonna? Mick Jagger? Fucking Bono? Ok, so maybe their music is more your speed, but none of them are exactly geniuses. Most, if not all musicians, are under-educated bar and road dogs who refuse to grow up, travel to shitty bars in small towns in a tour bus filled with overgrown children lighting their own farts, spend most of their nights in truck stops and seedy motels, etc. THIS is integrity? Maybe it's just that I see music entirely as a juvenile. junky form of pop culture, that I don't have this idolizing respect for musicians of pseudo-integrity. Even Henry Rollins said he has more respect for Britney than for Bono. I mean, look at how juvenile pop music is --- the childish feuds among artists, the grown men acting like teenagers in lyrics and appearance, millionaires wearing thrift store clothes or street attire....Can't these fuckers wear a goddamn suit to the Grammys? Who are they fooling, dressing like hobos? Acting and filmmaking is a pretty silly form of make-believe when you think about it, but for every teenybop idiot, there are plenty of highly educated, cultured theatre actors, and at least they can behave with some acceptance of being an adult in interviews or awards shows (most, anyway.) But back to musicians, at least NSYNC, Britney, Aguilera, BSB, etc., are honest about their cheesiness. They're in it for the same shallow reasons as everyone else in music, and they don't feel the need to convey this faux-rebel/ slacker/ gangsta/ thrift store vibe like their counterparts in "respectable" genres. I mean, how stupid is listening to pop music anyway? Ever watch people at a rock concert, mugging like jackasses while air guitaring? The point is, ALL MUSIC is fucking stupid. And almost all of it is made by very stupid people. NSYNC are considered a joke because they are pre-packaged and never lived this supposedly sexy outlaw/rebel image of musicians that is 100% bullshit anyway. I'm by no means a fan of them or any boy band, but there is NO difference between NSYNC and Bono, or Backstreet Boys and Dave Matthews, or Britney and Rage against the Machine. It's all juveline noise aimed at teenagers.
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I do think that Lucas has given up any hope on Episode 2 & 3.
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Personally I couldn't care less if NSYNC is cast as extras in Ep2.. I couldn't even recognize their faces, so as long as they don't get all singing, it'll be okay. However, I'd *love* to see Modern Talking, the duo that have done >irrepairable< damage to my hearing system, mutilated and killed in the most painful way possible, hopefully in a snuff film directed by Peter Jackson. =/
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I'm totally sick of Luca$ making a damn toy for everything. He's making up characters to get a toy out. Everyone is wearing a SW t-shirt. Dammit Chewbacca is on my friggin' Frosted Flakes box. I say everyone boycott any George Lucas films. I'm just hoping he get over exposed with this one and no one wants another. You wouldn't catch Kubrick putting his 2001 creations on Froot Loops. Feh!
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"George has a very clear vision about the story of Star Wars that he won't allow to be swayed by the whims of the Internet, the media, critics or anyone." --- Yes, it consisted of Pepsi and Pizza Hut promos, PodRace video games, novels, battle droids t-shirts and Jar Jar Binks toys! And a digital camera!!! (Aw shit, almost forgot, I gotta put some stuff together to show in the theaters, too...)
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LOL..who CARES about music, that's not the point here, bitches. The point is LUCAS IS OUT OF TOUCH. LOL...the King was just read another interesting bit - Rick McCallum had them come in. You know, the producer. LOL! People keep asking "Why doesnt anyone tell Lucas no?" Well, lol, look here Twatty Nelsons, how can the producer tell him "No" when the producer is the BITCH bringing IN the bad ideas! LOL! Oh, it hurts, its so funny it hurts! You bitches are getting schooled by Lucas and ILAME themselves! Its like McCallum is holding you up while Lucas brow beats you like a nickel bitch in Betty Boop on animal nitrate/Blade Runner gear and you BEG for more! LOL!!!! Oh bitches. Bitches, bitches, bitches...you have just been SCHOOLED by the KING of Talkback! Whip-TASH! (The Balrog's bullwhip in honor of my departure)
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This is true. I was watching E! News Daily just now and they said that Lucasfilm has CONFIRMED it to be true. HOWEVER, it's no big deal....you won't even notice that they're there. They said "if you blink, you'll miss it".
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Ya its true because it started on the Internet. Ya Harry didn't want to post this rumor but it was confirmed because it was on MTV. Well if MTV says it then its true! Shit. I bet this and the Celione D. Rumor are started by plants at New Line or LOTR fanatics to defame SW and get people hating Lucas. Lucas don't care either way. He'll make his money and laugh at each of you that see AOTC twice. I bet it isn't true. It will be more bullshit LOTR fans make up to trash every film except the gay-ass LOTR. Harry loves to spin these anit-SW rumors because his buddies got kicked from skywalker ranch. Notice Harry hasn't published any position news about SW. Unless you count his drooling over Padme pics, drooling over her action figure, and drooling over pics of her as a little girl in The Professionel. Nuff said
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Jan 02, 2002 8:01:10 PM CST
If Lucas has given up all hope, then SW fans arent gonna have th
by metsrulein2k
it's kinda sad, really, thank god I am a LOTR fan
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couple of things,if Lukas was only in it for the money we would be on s.w. ep.10 like star trek(and would you stand for a one in three average for a good s.w. movie?)franchise.also he's spending his money.and you know any studio would front a star wars film.i'm realy tired of that"he's in it for the money"stuff.and about n'stink,i wouldn't know what they looked like so it won't mean a thing to me anyway.(but if they die realy cool on screen some one please point them out.i would'nt want to miss it.)oh and not every one who loved star wars when it came out was a kid.
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Those boys at http://www.geocities.com/buttbackender/ButtBackender.html are right on top of things!!!!!!! N' Sync are in today's episode!!!!!!! FUCK YOU GEORGIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Some of those examples you cited- Mick Jagger, for instance- would get more leeway because they have proven in the past that they are capable of acting, sometimes (in Mick's case) brilliantly so. But the decision to put N'Sync in the film has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with acting. If it did- if they had auditioned and gotten minor speaking parts, for instance- I personally would be more forgiving, because at least then the decision would be based in the artistic life of the film, not its life as a commodity. This decision was made solely to put asses in seats, because that is all Lucas cares about any longer. He's made that plain as day. That's where my sense of betrayal comes from.
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George Lucas has lost all credibility.
I don't care if I see N'Sync in the movie or not, the fact that they are there just sucks huge cobblers.........
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Yeah, Anton, I just realized somehwere in the midst of all my bullshit I forgot to point out that, yes, I do think musicians can be good actors, and that I think this IS a lame idea --- in general, Eps. 1 and 2 suffer from TOO MANY familiar faces, and having the EXTRAS be well-known pop stars would totally take you out of the movie....By the way, can I just say how full of shit most of the guys are that claim "they wouldn't know them if you saw them." Uh, Bullshit. There is no way you could have never seen any of their goofy mugs on TV in the last three years, and I'm sure almost every single person in here, whether you hate them or not, could point out which was Chris, Lance, Justin, Joey, and J.C. Every one of you. Don't lie.
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While I resent the fact that these no talent hacks manage to score a role like this, I don't really care. Its not like there are going to be a group of 5 dancin' jedi in the movie, who get killed. Chances are they will be barely recognizable. So who cares.
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Who cares if they are in the background!!!...........IT'S N'SYNC for gods sake...N'SYNC in a STAR WARS MOVIE.....N'fuckin'SYNC....RUN AWAAAAAY..
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I don't deserve Star Wars with boy band cameos! I don't! (Turning to sob hopelessly into my pillow... "Oh, but we were once so in lo-o-ove...!")
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Doubt this will cause me many sleepless nights, either.
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..we hardly knew ye.
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Jan 02, 2002 8:20:47 PM CST
"...why isn't Rick McCallum kicking Luca$' ass and dropp
by darthpsychotic
You know it used to be on Saturday Morning/Weekday Cartoons, they would have "Muppet Babies", "A Pup Named Scooby Doo", "Flintstone Kids", etc, you know baby versions of old-worn out characters repackaged to sell more shit. Well Rick "Young Indiana Jones" McCallum is the behind this NSYNC shit, just like he was probably behind having Boba Fett as a little brat and a 80-year sithlord named "Darth Tyranus". I've said it before and I will say it again, I liked Jango Fett before when he was in ESB and his name was Boba Fett.******************************************************************************** I've had a year to mull over some of the more stupid unimaginative aspects of Episode 2. Baby Fett and Daddy Fett, a 80-year old Sith Apprentice. When the leaked storyboards and domain names hit the internet I was like what the fuck?. What the fuck is up with these stupid ass names, Kamino and Darth Tyranus. My name, darthpsychotic is a lot more creative and imaginative that Count Dookie's sith moniker. On the internet, the username darthpsychotic is probably even more feared as well. The fucking CGI Starship Trooper like aliens and battle droids didn't help either. I guess the long drawn-out Episode 1 BattleDroid-GunGan war sequence wasn't enough. When shit start leaking about Anakin and Amidala I began getting a chubby over Starwars again. I guess when it comes to Starwars I am BI.
********************************************************************************** With all that said I'm still excited to see Episode 2 though, psychotic even. If the film focuses on Anakin and Amidala(I prefer that name over Padme) like it did in the Episode 2preview trailers, I will be satisfied. The way the haunting "Leia's Theme" is used in the Episode 2 preview trailers is beautiful. Young Anakin Skywalker is portrayed as a angry-disgrunted youth pissed off at a bougeouis society and takes it out on some tuskens and anyother motherfucker that crosses him. This fits in well with today's highschool shootings and blown up buildings. Young Anakin Skywalker is my role model and he should be yours as well!
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This is the title of the most anticipated film ever? What were they smoking? Can anyone tell Lucas NO??? God help us. Star Wars sounded so cool. Now the new movie sounds like a friggin' 50's serial you see on TV after school. Man he's ruined this for me. Lucas is stuck in the 50's. I'll bet the next one will be "The Jedi's Revenge" or "The Rebels Come Back" or something similarly pathetic. Come on people, this is 1979. I'll be standing in line for Xanadu. Now theirs a title.
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... and so ... he's on a mission to make AOTC so fucking bad that it makes TPM look good by comparison. RIP Star Wars.
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Other rumors I have heard, in the same scene that N'Synch is in, Britney Spears will be dolled up like Princess Leia in that meta bikini thing from return of the Jedi. During the fight, a stray laser blast disintegrates her clothes, and Justin Timberlake jumps on her and uses his lightsaber on her (if you know what I mean)while the other members watch, then they all DIE!!! Plus the are changing the name of The Two Towers to The Twin Towers out of respect for the sept. 11 destruction of the WTC. Oh one more thing, N"SYNCH will be in the background for two seconds!! Chill out!
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Lucas, you whore. First we cater to the brats for part 1...now we have got to try and get in the teeny boppers for part 2? Are you shittin' me?!!!
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Anyone wanna vote on this one...Who's hotter, Liv Tyler or Natalie Portman? I gotta go with Liv by a mile. Any votes?
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That's right bitchy-bitches...the KING has another decree. Well, it seems Lucas and ILAME are drawing First Blood, huh bitches and of course, more importanly, my loyal subjects? Well, the KING sees no other choice - we must converge on the wooded slope behind ILM and with donkey fat, elbow grease, and twigs to make a fort. There will will stay until we STRIKE BACK. How? Well bitches, BURY STAR BORES WITH ME! That's right, G'nite, Lucas, g'nite ILAME, you are offically NO LONGER NEEDED. You handed the keys over to GENERAL JACKSON -- NO, scratch that, GENERAL JACKSON brow beat you like a nickel bitch walking home from junior college and TOOK the keys from you, BITCH. LOL...and you have just been SCHOOLED by the KING of Talkback! Whip-TASH! (The Balrog's Bullwhip, to signal my departure)
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I guess if they are extras...that isn't such a big deal.
What does bother me is that it's the gearing towards the kiddies that helped to ruin TPM. I wish so much that there were more checks and balances being done on these pictures than letting Lucas run completely carte blanche.
It's outta control just like Star Trek has been!
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Who's hotter? Carrie Fisher or Erin Grey? Erin Grey....SLURP!
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... or the CORPORATE ENGINEERED boy band of your choice. I personally prefer music that a person writes because they are inspired, because they want to share how they are feeling. Let me let you in on a little secret about ART that I learned from someone who was a hell of a lot older and wiser than myself. Music is a vehicle for letting you feel what someone else feels... it's a way to get inside their feelings. Paintings are about showing you something in a way you wouldn't think to look at it yourself. It's a way to get inside another person's perspective. These definitions are not all inclusive, but you begin see what I mean. Movies rock because they are both of the above and something more altogether... the ultimate form of storytelling perhaps... ANyway, to my point... Nsynch's music (like so MUCH of pop music) HAS NO SOUL. It's engineered to please a market target group. That is not why I (and MANY other people) listen to music. I want to listen to artists that have something to say, not corporations who just want money. Hell, Eminem may be an arrogant little fuck but at least he HAS something to say. When N'Synch break up, and the artists go their separate ways, perhaps then they will have something to write real music about, and maybe then I'll want to listen to them. Hell, HANSON has something to say. Marilyn Manson has something to say! Britney just might end up being the next Madonna after she gets done selling her body to the media and grows up a little. You want to try something truly different? Look up Mike Oldfield sometime, if you can handle it. Wow, I got off on a rant there... *chuckle* Look at all the SW fans getting defensive and poo-pooing the bad news... I will force myself to see the movie, it is my duty as a *former* Lucas fan to watch his descent into madness and death... if Indy4 gets butchered I'll have him killed for it the next day I swear...
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hahahahahahaha! had to say it! someone had to! did someone already? WHO CARES ABOUT THIS! GO SPEND YOUR MONEY ON IT!!!!!!YOU WILL BECAUSE ... HE KNOWS YOU WILL.... LUCAS IS GOD! HAHHAHAA
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Yes, the truth has arrived. And personally, I'm fucking GLAD! Episode I sucked so badly that I wished this whole new trilogy would go away forever!!! I haven't been able to WATCH the old one since being raped in the theater 2 1/2 years ago!!!!! At least those flame-boys at
http://www.geocities.com/buttbackender/ButtBackender.html
predicted shit like was going to happen. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT WITH THIS "TITANIC" STORYLINE?? GEORGE WANTS TO CORNER THE MARKET ON PRE-PUBESCENT GIRLS!!!!!! THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS!!!!!!!! -
hey if you can tell n'stink from backstreet boys to o-town men at 98% you are a chick.yes you can't help but see them every where,i saw their little head bobby things at best buy today.but they all look and sound the same to me but i'm not their fan base.you must be.and alice stop weeping in your pillow and grow up.(i'll be here the day after AOTC opens to hear what all you girls thaught about it).
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It doesn't matter if they are just extras, N'SYNC is in a Star Wars movie and they are making a point of it.
This movie will age like a banana on a hotplate....BADLY.....
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Jan 02, 2002 8:39:32 PM CST
Vicconius, I do believe you have as much foam at your mouth as t
by the killer-goat
Nice to see you're getting into the swing of things with everyone else! I am also impressed with your casual amount of 'fanboy' knowledge of SW trivia. Seems to me it's agreed that this "ain't your father's" Star Wars Trilogy. He's just writing for the kids now, so the rest of us 30-somethings will go watch the LOTR trilogy instead. And Vicconius, remember that all his geekboy fanbase from 25 years ago are PLENTY of reason for Lucas to try to triple his gains from this franchise, that's just the way it is. If Lucas doesn't want to cater to the fanbase, it's his call, but it won't make him as rich as he could be WITH them. You're being practical but not realistic, and for the megaladon-like proportion of expectations that this movie relies on, that kind of attitude just won't do. History is history and YOU may not think much of the SW flicks but too many other people outnumber you for that.
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Come on people, it's not the end of the world! I'M not disappointed with the decision! Britney Spears is only in a minor role in
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In reading this mile long list of rants there seems to be this pattern of people calling Lucas a sell out along with various other insults. I think people should realize that george is exactly the opposite. StarWars is Lucas' brain child. He created this from scratch and should be allowed to do whatever he wants with it. For instance, Jar Jar. Everyones favorite I know. After episode 1 was released there was a huge backlash against this character from so called fans everywhere. People wanted him dead. Now as we have seen in the first trailers for episode 2, Jar Jar is still here. Now if George was the sell out that all of you are accusing him of, Jar Jar would be gone. I must say Jar Jar doesn't bother me that much, and I am glad that Lucas has not given in to the petty whinning of those who wish they had an imagination of equal measure. You people should remember that StarWars is Lucas', not ours. He can do what he wants with the damn movies. As for all these rumours about how his children have influenced his films, if it is true then I commend him. That is why George Lucas is a better parent than any of you will be, Because he cares more about his kids then his so called fans (consequently the same fans who find it appropriate to stab him in the back everytime they see or hear something they don't like). This post doesn't apply to everyone, I mean we all have the freedom of expression, but lets not get too carried away.
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I have a cousin that is interning on The Carson Daily Show. Being a Star Wars nut that I am, he informed me that on the eve of the opening of Star Wars Episode Two: Attack of the Clones, Carson Daily will have the entire cast of N'SYNC on his show to discuss Star Wars. I don't know if this has anything to do with a few of the band members being in the movie or not. It is still possible that they may be on the show because they are solely Star Wars fans. Truly, I don't know all the facts thus far. I know one thing for sure. If they are indeed in the movie, they are making a big deal out of it.
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Lets go ahead and have Britney Spears and J-Lo in there to be the princess's "best friends" and hand maidens.
Since there is the romance plot...we already are almost getting to chick flick territory. These new breed of wanna be Star Wars films are starting to make the Batmans look respectible.
This is the kind of stunt that I would expect in Batman. Those always cast the flavors of the month..and that's expected.
I hope that they are killed bloodily and hideously. I intend to be half sloshed in the theater and will be cheering quite loudly. I hope it's Fett or one of his guys that does these fools in.
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C'mon, give Mr. Lucas a break! He has created an exciting universe, between the films and the books. It is his vision he is following, not trying to buy the favor of some rude and foul-mouthed punks! If he wants a cameo by N'Sync for a few seconds as non-speaking (and thankfully non-singing) Jedi, what's the big freakin' deal? His little girl likes them, and he can do this for her, I say it is great. Doesn't affect the movie in the slightest. Unless it bombs at the box office. Then he can start a new ad campaign saying "Come watch N'Sync get killed!" and we'll all laugh and watch most of you previous posters rush out with your $8.50 to get a cheap thrill watching N'Sync get it. What's wrong with N'Sync anyway? They are just a bunch of kids that got lucky. Personally, I don't like their music, but so what? You have to learn, in this world, it isn't always the talented people who reap the rewards. More often than not, it is just the lucky ones. Good for them, I say. I don't begrudge anyone getting lucky. I'm not jealous of their success. Doesn't make me feel insecure. But it seems to make a lot of you feel that way. Live and let live, people. Their luck doesn't actually impact any of us in any practical way at all, just them.
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From now on, I don't want to hear any of the die-hard Star Wars geeks try to defend Lucas anymore whenever someone calls him a sellout. Because this PROVES that that is the case. Goodbye, Mr. Lucas. We thought we knew you. The old gods are dead; long live the new Messiah, Peter Jackson!
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A movie which some of you didn't like? A director which some of you don't have a favorable opinion on? A tralier that only showed a few clips of the movie? A cameo by a boy band that has nothing to do with the plot of the movie? C'mon, you haven't even seen the movie yet! Why get all pessemistic? Cant you just wait till the movie to bash it? I mean c'mon! And don't bash the people you defend the movie. They have every right to defend the movie as do you to bash it. And don't turn it into a LOTR vs. SW debate again. If LOTR is good, so what! I bet when ATOC turns out to be better than expected you people are still going to be complaining about "The movie was good but he still didn't listen to the fans". Knock it off! No wonder this talkback is considered a joke on some other boards on the net.
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After sitting in line to get the Tickets for TPM it think its cool that some girls will go to and possibly see this film just for its boy band content. It beats the scary guys that dressed up as princess lea and amidala that showed up for the last one.
I saw Lord of the rings and other than some cool fight sequences the movie could have been cut down at least another hour. I even laughed when they pumped Mark Hammils voice screaming no no!!!!! when Gandalf gets pulled off the ledge by a Diablo Clone!
(i am aware that the story of lord of the rings came out before StarWars)
People wake up you bash Lucas because it its cool. Ive said it before most of you probably purchased the Vanilla Ice records then said you hated it when it wasnt cool to like him any more.
The jokes on the people who think Starwars will flop anyway. He could put OJ Simpson in the film and still have a record number of people go to see it.
I don't like boy bands but that fact is people they sell. If anything they shoud get points for being fans of the films.
As for people attacking Lucas's kids thats just plain sick. Maybe your parents should limit you computer time and send you to bed without desert. If your willing to kill someone over a film that your going to complain about no matter what lucas does in it then I pity you I really do.
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AP - Skywalker Ranch, Jan 2, 2002: A computer generated Ralph Malf has signed on to play the crucial role of 'Gummy' Skywalker in TPM III, Lucasfilm announced today. "What you find out is, Gummy and Jar-Jar are old yuck-yuck town perfomers, which is kinda a vaudeville thing. Anyway, they were separated, so there's a whole backstory there, but in the movie we focus on getting Gummy and Jar-Jar back together, and how their Laurel and Hardy antics sort of help to bring a little tenderness back to the universe, after the rise of the Empire and the Emperor, which, will all happen off screen, between the 2nd and 3rd," Lucas noted from his Ranch compound, surrounded by midgets from fourteen different countries dressed as ewoks, sans mask, and carrying AK-47's for protection of "Daddy." TPM III is expected to be released in May of 2005. ... and you, bitch, were SCHOOLED on Jan 2, 2002! LOL! by the KING of TALKBACK! Whip-TASH! (The Balrog's bullwhip to signal my departure, and, of course, in my honor)
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> Everyone keeps saying that the Attack of the Clones story looks like "Something from 90210" or now Dawson's Creek. Um, except for the young age of the participants, how is this so? did I miss the storyline when Dawson became the member of a religious order of bad ass knights who had vowed to a life of celibacy. but then Dawson fell in love with the queen of another world and they began a romance that could threaten both their worlds? Oh wait, that DID happen on season two. My bad.
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... some of you geeks are just shit beyond all belief. Holy Christ, if Lucas wants to put *NSYNC in his film, he can put them in. It's his film. And the very fact that they're in it for two seconds or whatever getting killed just makes your bitching look even more pathetic. Seriously, think about it. You are crying and bitching and moaning over a couple of seconds of film that you haven't even seen yet. That is a sad reflection on your lives, if you get so worked up over a few seconds of a film. Not even the film as a whole, but a few seconds of it. I mean, come on... Mark Wahlberg didn't ruin Three Kings or Boogie Nights or anything because he used to be in Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, and he was in a leading role! Donnie Wahlberg was good in Band of Brothers, and he was in New Kids on the Block. But the thing is that *NSYNC aren't going to have anywhere near as major role as the Wahlberg's have had in their various films - they're just EXTRAS for god's sake. So shut your bitch-ass mouths up and crawl back into a hole, like the pathetic little slugs that you are. And another thing, stop hailing Peter Jackson as the second coming of Christ. Face it - he took a well established novel with a pre-sold fanbase, took the talking and character development out of it, and formed an epic action film. Does this make him a genius? No it doesn't. It means he has made a fairly good action film. Nothing more. FOTR is not a classic film.
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ITS OVER
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If he really wants to put in 5 sorry excuses for musicians,he should make up for it by giving David Bowie, Billy Corgan, and the members of Garbage cameos as well. I would love to see Shirley Manson as a bounty hunter. Mmmmm......
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Star Wars is now officially in the same class as Pearl Harbor and Batman & Robin. That's just a fact we will have to live with.
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In Star Wars they mention Clone Wars. Who won? Did the Jedi kill off all the clones, or did the clones kill the Jedi? And if they killed the Jedi, what hapend to the clones? I bet they are the Imperial Commanders. They all have the same accent and look the same. Lucas doesn't even mention the clones in ESB. Why bring something up if your not going to follow through on it. That is bad film making.
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Jan 02, 2002 8:58:13 PM CST
Damn, why couldn`t Lucas` daughter be into Norwegion black metal
by elgyn6655321
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I'm not sure but if a man forces his wife down on the bed, beats the living shit out of her, and penetrates her every orifice while she screams and pleads for him to stop is that considered rape?Hmmm....why don't we ask GL?!
If it were possible to bring up charges for battery I would be first in line. I sat by after being thoroughly dissappointed with TPM, but convinced myself that is was the beginning, the time to lay down groundwork for the next two kick-ass episodes. I guess I was wrong. This must be GL's demented albeit, successful attempt at dismantling the world's greatest (film)trilogy (so far) with the same amount of films.
I always cringed when I entered a movie theater with my wife to see the next Brad Pitt movie. Not because Brad Pitt starred in the film, but because I knew that I would have to contend with some 13 year old teeny-bopper who would have no idea what was going on in the film and would just scream every time Brad showed up.
Well, I know I won't have to worry about it for ATC, because the teeny-boppers can have the fucking theater. I absolutely will not put more money into a man's pocket who has no respect for the series of films that made him famous or for the people that made the film's famous!!!!!
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Actually you may have a point, let's bash it some more and maybe it'll reach the status of not-offensive-to-any-lifeform-whatsoever..........
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I hear Lucas is going to re-release Star Wars as A New Hope. What is this, a soap opera? It sounds like a name for a douche. Why not call it Love Story or something similarly inane. As far as I'm concerned, it will forever be Star Wars and Luc-ass can go to hell.
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really have to be in this film, why do they have to be Jedis? Putting them in the same league as Yoda and Samuel L Jackson is just not right. Make them put on Jar Jar masks so they can leap about like the pathetic gimps they are in Naboo scenes or something. But Jedis? the survey says WRONG. Even if one of them has conquered the Jedi-like feat of slipping Britney the pork sword..
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Jan 02, 2002 9:03:34 PM CST
In the end, it's only a movie - but still, I think the dream
by moviet00l
I actually enjoyed TPM, but it gets weaker and weaker with repeat viewings. Jar Jar has gone from annoying to intolerable. They'll just be extras, it's true - but can anyone doubt that George will feel it necessary to give them a nice close-up before they're killed or whatever? This, much like the whole Greedo-shoots-first thing, is yet another drop in an allready too-heavy bucket. Yes, these are George's movies and he can do whatever he wants with them. But I must admit that with every new change, that Star Wars universe I used to get so lost in seems less and less mystical and more and more - well, fake. It seems written with a calculator rather than imagination. It's not because I'm getting older. I still love "The Sword and the Sorcerer" as much as I ever did - and it's easy to still love "Beastmaster" because the sequels were SO bad that I could ignore them alltogether. But with every step, from Jedi to the special editions to TPM, Star Wars has been . . . . oh, hell, maybe AOTC will be brilliant. I suppose I can hold out my hope for one more spin.
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George... sweetey... you wanna make your movie? You go right ahead. Knock yourself out. If you need me, I'll be down the hall from your movie... watching Peter Jackson's movie... again. Seriously though, it's not about whether or not I can see them. It's that they are there in the first place, and I will know they are there. It's about discovering the man behind the curtain controlling the great and powerful Oz. It's about Star Wars being turned into a 2 1/2 hour toy commercial. It's about the wisdom of Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher, who have put as much distance between themselves and this piece of festering shit as possible. We all could learn a lot from them. It's about waiting years for a new SW movie, and walking into something vaguely resembling Star Wars, but with fart jokes. FART JOKES IN A STAR WARS MOVIE! It's about Ewan McGregor, who has gone from the happiest man in the world to being embarrased to talk about the title of Episode 2. If he had been told the title before filming of Ep1 commenced, no doubt he would have agreed it was a great title, just because he was so utterly excited to be in a Star Wars movie. Now look at him. He's hating life right now, hating that he didn't follow his Uncle Denis' advice : "Stay away from Star Wars." I still have some hope that Ep3 will be watchable, but not if Ewan isn't committed to the role he is playing anymore. It IS about Greedo firing first. It IS about "You were lucky to get out of there." It IS about "It's alright! I can see a lot better!" Above all, it's about the Peter Pan we once knew turning, painfully, into the Robin Williams we first meet in Hook. George and Steven need to sit down and watch Hook together some night, they might learn something (You'd think Steven would be hip to the irony already... oh well). They might discover that they need some Julia Roberts enhanced pixie dust shoved up their asses. Then again, even Peter himself took some convincing. Maybe we should all chip in to send George and Steven to Never Never Land for a month. Attack of The Clones and Ep3 might even become worthy of the name Star Wars after a trip like that. "Think of the happiest things.... it's the same as having wings... what the fuck? Joey! Lance! Get your pansy asses off of my set!" Now, everyone, altogether, clap very hard, and say you believe in fairies. It might be our only hope.
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The key term is extras! Do you guys realize how many extras there are in films that you never actually see on screen? It's not like they were given staring roles. It is just Lucas, being the centimillionaire that he is, using his said hundreds of millions of dollars worth of power to get his spoiled daughter a chance to meet her favorite (of the month) "band". And I'm sure that the guys from Shitfest USA, as I like to call N'Stynk, would gladly blow Lucas, especially for the chance to be anywhere near Star Wars. WHO GIVES A FUCK IF THEY ARE IN THE BACKGROUND, OUT OF FOCUS! IT WON'T RUIN THE MOVIE!
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Whether that guy Connery is making that up or not, about a cousin interning at the Carson Daily Show, (God I even hate typing that), N'sync will make a bid deal out of this. They will be on Leno, Letterman, shitty TRL, and the rest of those garbage MTV shows TALKING ABOUT THIR CAMEOS IN STAR WARS. No matter what, the members of N'SYNC can now say "WE WERE APART OF STAR WARS". We Star Wars fans only have one person to blame for that. George Lucas. That is why several of us despise him. I wish I were Lucas' daughter, I would tell daddy to give Conan's DUDEZ A PLENTI cameos in Episode Two. Has anyone else seen that? O'Brien is a genius.
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http://www.theforce.net/ - So much for holding out hope that it was BS. Sorry TerryK. I'm not saying Lucas has no right to destroy his franchise, but I won't hold back bashing him into oblivion for it either. That's MY right. God, and to think I actually believed that BS about these films being written back in the 70's before IV,V,VI but being put off because they didn't have the technology to do them back then. Guess they were waiting for the invention of Boy Bands. /shrug I'm going to go watch some foreign films, this is depressing...
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Amen...
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"Be like Gandalf. Have no children, and remain cool until a Balrog drags you into hell." --> that was hilarious!
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Dudez-A-Plenti would kick butt. I'd also want Conan in there as a Jedi Master, and Andy Richter as one of the clonetroopers or something. Oh, and I may have more old talkback stuff. It's fun to go back and look at that stuff after a few years. What were we thinking back then??? But it's getting to be too much work for me. I have to port all that stuff over from my old Apple II.
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I can't defend this. This MIGHT have been cool if this wasn't going to be used as a way to sell the movie. Even though Lucasfilm won't overtly promote N'Sync being in the movie (because they're "extras"), it's still a fucking gimmick. That cheapens it. You know the movie mag shows will be selling this like no other. MTV will be selling it. I can see one of these bastards on Letterman or the Tonight Show. "Yeeah...I called my boy up and said I wanna be in the new Star Wars movie. He said yeeeah and we git to play some Jedis in the background. Yeeahh, everybody was real cool and stuff. We might be in the next one...yeeeah." If their appearance was somehow kept under wraps and then discovered as an easter egg, it wouldn't have been as bad. Regardless, AOTC will rock your asses...but this is a chink in the armor. Fuck.
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*NSync will release their new single in May 2002 - "Forbidden Love (I'm A Jedi)"
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This would be the only thing at the moment that would make wanna buy a ticket for this one. The Chad wielding a light saber and screaming frantically - somebody give Lucas a call!
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I know plenty of people who don't have kids and they still think they are cool. I'm afraid they are not. I don't have kids either. Means nothing except to give yourelf slight hope and a veneer of coolness. And dude, two cats? Your cool days may be numbered. You'll be the old couple with 60 cats that everyone talks about. But you'll still be cool I guess. My advice, get a dog. Chicks loves the dogs.
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Conan would be a sweet Jedi Master. Hey, did you see when Andy came back to the show as a guest and came with his posse? Too funny. Now how bad-ass would Triumph the Insult Dog be as Yoda?
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Scene: Anakin has inadvertantly crashed his fighter inside a ring-shaped Commerce Guild starbase. Surrounded by Clones, he accidentally fires a proton torpedo, blowing up the Spacestation's shield generator and saving Naboo. Anakin: Oops, I did it again.
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Scene: Amidaala and Anakin are alone in her chambers. Amidaala: You are a jedi, Anakin, pledged to your order. If they hear of our relationship, you would be cast out. Anakin: We could keep it a secret. Amidaala: We'd be living a lie. I couldn't do that. Could you Ani? Anakin: Quit playing games with my heart! -
...a friend of mine is one of Christina Aguilera's dancers and hangs out with her a lot. She says Christina is working on a song for the AOTC Soundtrack, called "I'm A Jedi In A Bottle".
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Jan 02, 2002 9:25:54 PM CST
AND AGAIN TO ALL OF YOU DIPSHIT IDIOTS WHO NOW THINK THAT EP. II
by smeg for brains
If I was Lucas I would be INTENTIONALLY DOING THIS KIND OF SHIT! I would be looking for ways to piss all of you off! For every thousand of you people who say that you won't see Ep. 2, there is maybe actually one who will actually stick to their word, and for every thousand of you who say it there are 100,000 normal people who will go to see it, so don't think that if Lucas pisses off his fans by doing stuff like this his movie will fail. This is going to be the same movie it was going to be before this news was confirmed, except now you will know N'Stykn is in the background, as unrecognizable as all the other extras that you never see clearly. If that ruins the movie for you GOOD! I applaud Lucas for having the balls to do something that will so obviously anger so many loser idiots who have nothing better to do with their lives! It shows that he really doesn't care about those extremist retards, and is making the movies for himself (which includes his pocketbook). Why don't you guys put your extremist attitudes into something that is actually meaningful, or productive?
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It's the eleventh commandment and I quote: "THOU SHALT NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE INCLUDE UNTALENTED SINGERS OF BAD MUSIC AND DUBIOUS INTELLECT IN ANY MOTION PICTURE THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE IMP KNOWN AS FREDDIE PRINZE JR. OR THE FULL WRATH OF THE LORD OF MOVING PICTURES WILL BEFALL YOU LIKE A TON OF FAIRLY HEAVY AND JAGGED BRICKS"
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"Just imagine a Tom Green cameo... "I'm using the FORCE! I'm USING the FORCE! I'm using the FORCE! Hey! I'm USING the FORCE! I'musingtheFORCE! I'm USING THE force! I'm USING THE FORCE! I'm USing IT! The FORCE! I'm Using the Force! I'm A FORCE USER! I'm A JEDI! I'm A jedi! I'm A Jadi! I'm a Jediiiii! I'm a jedi! I'm a jedi! I've got a big LIGHTSABER. Check out my Lightsaber!" -ZeroCorpse
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When these boy bands are on MTV I don't care, because I don't watch MTV anyways. But once they start bleeding into my world that's when I do give a shit. Lucas has robbed me and every serious Star Wars fan of what little integrity was left in this new trilogy. Fuck Lucas, that flanned piece of shit. I hope he and those Queens of pop N'Suck read this. Assholes.
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Jan 02, 2002 9:36:40 PM CST
AND AGAIN TO ALL OF YOU DIPSHIT IDIOTS WHO NOW THINK THAT EP. II
by smeg for brains
If I was Lucas I would be INTENTIONALLY DOING THIS KIND OF SHIT! I would be looking for ways to piss all of you off! For every thousand of you people who say that you won't see Ep. 2, there is maybe actually one who will actually stick to their word, and for every thousand of you who say it there are 100,000 normal people who will go to see it, so don't think that if Lucas pisses off his fans by doing stuff like this his movie will fail. This is going to be the same movie it was going to be before this news was confirmed, except now you will know N'Stykn is in the background, as unrecognizable as all the other extras that you never see clearly. If that ruins the movie for you GOOD! I applaud Lucas for having the balls to do something that will so obviously anger so many loser idiots who have nothing better to do with their lives! It shows that he really doesn't care about those extremist retards, and is making the movies for himself (which includes his pocketbook). Why don't you guys put your extremist attitudes into something that is actually meaningful, or productive?
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Made ya look.
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This article was posted today and this thread has grown tremendously. I'm a new poster here and was curious if Harry stops the thread or puts a new one up. BTW, I hit the T instead of the F, ROFL-ROTL, but perhaps I can say I was rolling on the table laughing. However George Bushish that may sound.
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I knew Star Wars was on life support after I watched that steaming pile called The Phantom Menace. Star was isn't what it once was. Admit it. Lucas has lost it. The fact that there are actually some on this talkback still trying to defend Luca$ is astonishing.
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Let's all applaud Mr. Lucas.
After all, it takes a man with great integrity to put N'SYNC in his movie.
If only Peter Jenkins would be so bold as to transcend genres in this clever and thoughtful way.
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It seems all you have to do to get in a Star Wars movie is let Lucas or McAllum know that you're a big fan and they'll give you a part. How long before Lucasfilm figures out a way to sell fans background roles in these movies? People could send in their picture and $100 dollars and ILM's super-computers can paste 'em on a CG extra in the Episode III Jedi massacre. Imagine Georgie counting his money while fan boys scan frame-by-frame on the DVD to point out their millisecond appearance to all their friends. Heck, he can insert everyone into Episodes 4-6 & TPM in New special editions, too! And in the future he'll find a way to make customized Special Edition DVDs where you can pay to have your likeness replace you favorite character. But, he wouldn't do that, would he?
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I truly hope you are right, and that AOTC kicks my ass so hard that I don't land until Ep3 comes out. Seriously tho, do you honestly think that this doesn't damage Lucas' credibility? TPM was an INSULT to Lucas' older fans. TPM is THE cause of all the bad karma towards Star Wars. We had indications before (such as the cleanup of the original trilogy and Greedo shooting first), but this shit indicates a trend. Did you enjoy TPM? Compared to the previous films it was a gut-renching, anal explosion of tripe. Don't tell me that I just don't like the originals because I am not a kid anymore either, because I still like the originals a LOT as an adult. I like them because they are interesting and involving, something TPM certainly was not. The chances of TPM kicking ass because of the events in AOTC are slim to none... it's just another love story, with wars going on. That's not very different from Pearl Harbor, it's not very original, and it's probably just plain pedestrian. I expect PERFECTION from Lucas due to his track record. He is simply NOT allowed to mess up, most of his older fans (the ones bashing) feel this way. We got screwed by TPM and the "Special Editions", what proof can you offer me that it won't happen again? Admittedly, my expectations will be in the gutter for this one, so it has that going for it as well. My expectations were in the gutter for Black Knight, and guess what? It sucked. The Clones trailer got BOOED out in every theater I've seen it in! Our only hope is for this one to fail miserably so Lucas gets scared enough to hire a talented writer for Ep3! Did you ever think you'd be hearing that kind of talk about Lucas?
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After getting back from seeing Flash Gordon today, I have entered it into my top 10 movies of all time. It totally kicks ash. SW and ESB have nothing on it. In fact, I believe after SW and ESB have faded into obscurity, Flash Gordon will live on with the greats. Mike Hodges is GOD. Lucas is dead. Long live the new king (Hodges).
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Flash is "ok", but Battlestar Galactica is the grooviest movie ever. Glen A. Larson should be worshiped. At least Hodges and Lucas can be mentioned in the same sentence, but come on. They couldn't carry Larson's jockstrap. Keep on truckin'.
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There's a problem with your posts... nobody based Lucas back then except the critics and a few oddballs! Change the date of all of them to reflect the release of TPM and you'd be right on target.
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Where have all the Lucasfans gone?
Apart from Vicconius who doesn't make much sense at all, they have all but vanished.
Why? you ask?............
Star Wars just became impossible to defend....Whatever the fanboys say, you can always counter it with these words: "But, bloody N'SYNC was in Attack of the Clones".............. -
There are no people left to school!!
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Flash Gordon comparable to LOTR??? HAHAHAHAHAA. I guess you just can't recognize a good movie when you see one. Hmmm.. maybe there's a reason LOTR is garnering near universal praise from critics and fans alike, has already gained Golden Globes nominations, and is an early favorite for the Oscars. Oh I don't know... MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE LOTR IS NOT ANOTHER CRAPPY MOVIE LIKE FLASH GORDON, BUT A GREAT PICTURE WHICH WILL BE REMEMBERED FOR YEARS TO COME. You know like, the original trilogy of Star Wars was. That's sad that you even remember that a Flash Gordon remake came out in 1980.
As clever as you think you're being, you fail to make a valid point because none of the scenarios you imagine are comparable at all to having NSYNC IN STAR WARS. You also forget that while maybe there were a few naysayers, most people LIKED the first three star wars movies when they were released, and would thus SUPPORT them, not predict their failure. It's just a sign of what Lucas has become that he seems to have more friends than enemies. -
Jan 02, 2002 10:06:44 PM CST
Now I will be forced to get piss drunk before I see AOTC.
by darth ranik
I'm getting old too, so getting piss drunk isn't the fun time it used to be back in the day. Damn you George, what the hell are you thinking?
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Even thinking about N'SYNC being on the bloody set makes me feel physically ill.
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...and thank him on behalf of us fans for creating the spectacular Fellowship of the Ring movie by using his OWN professional judgement, and not letting any children or mentally deluted directors wearing flannel muck it all up.
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Is how all of these SW-bashers are under the assumption that only their opinion matters and no one else's does. That, my friends is pure arrogance. It is exactly why they attack anyone who tries to defend ATOC, even when they claim to get so offended. They are the biggest hypocrties in the world because they want to rant but think no one else can. I'm sorry if I sound offensive, but it seems like tolerance is not allowed on this board. I don't care you if you no longer like Star Wars, but quit acting like you the smartest people on earth. In this country people have OPINIONS, and you have no right to look down on someone because their opinion differs from yours. To conclude, I do think ATOC can be good, because I have no concrete evidence that it will be bad. If you don't want to see it, though, but don't try to make me look like an idiot. It is my right to see Episode 2.
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These actual posts from back then (from an alternate dimension, I didn't want to upset this timeline) show that if the Internet was as publicly popular at the time everyone would be the same nay-saying, annihilistic, faux-anarchist pricks that everyone seems to think they are now. Nsync as extras is worse than Fozzie Bear and Miss Piggy as The ultimate Jedi Master?? OK.
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Theforce.net reported this rumor over a month ago! Way to be on top of things, Harry. Were you just too caught up in your LOTR-induced stupor to hear about it?
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I wish I had all the money in the world so I could make expensive home movies for my kids.... This is pathetic. It's time for protest and wait until EP4 comes out on DVD before I give double chin any more of my money. I think he needs to get into another car wreck...Thank GOD for Peter Jackson.
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hey lucas, lord of the rings rocked, it had no contemporary references. kind of like the original star wars. too bad you forgot what made that film great. as it stands the lord of the rings trilogy will kick star wars ass all the way back to the seventies. n'sync is the biggest pile of shit ever. i hate them. my favorite band is the ramones, but i would have hated to see them make an appearance in star wars. they would have distracted from the film, simply because they are cooler than anyone else. n'sync will distract because they suck harder than any band has ever sucked.
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I heard this a long time ago too. Everyone has LOTR on the brain. Slows brain function doncha know.
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they'll be seen for a fleeting moment during a huge battle scene (and they're gonna be Jedi Knights), on Genosis (?) fighting battledroids. There's more, but check out Coming Attractions. Sorry. goddammit George - where's your head?
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Jan 02, 2002 10:18:07 PM CST
This Is Fucking Great...Never Have I Seen So Much Unity Since...
by jollydwarf
Okay, here's how I see it after a few hours of cooling down. (Relatively speaking, of course) Vicconius is primarily playing the 'get the geeks riled up' devil's advocate here (because every great talkback needs at least one)probably because he gets off on the instigation factor. But he and probably others bring up a valid point. What if this cameo were learned of AFTER opening day? What if the first round of reviews and viewings went smashingly well? Do we hate the movie then? Well, no, probably not. BUT...THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE SHOULD BE PISSED AS HELL. This could've been an innocuos "Easter Egg" to find, but Lucas and that "Wormtongue" McCallum have obviously spilt the beans with the intent to drum up an uproar. He hates us, guys. So many of you now see this. We are weak. We at the end of the day will not be able to resist the urge to see this film. We bashed his kiddie film. Rightfully so, but it hurt. I saw this coming when he made his painfully lame acceptance speech at the 2000 MTV Movie Awards. We didn't get older. He did. Bash A.I. all you want, but at least you can't say that Spielberg has gotten lamer. If anything, he has inched away from such summer fare. I don't expect Lucas to try and emulate Fincher or the Coen brothers, but it is very possible to make a classic swashbuckling, pulse-pounding adventure extravaganza without such pointless diversions. But again, he hates us. And so does much of the industry, I fear. Just remember the Scooby Doo casting/script debacle and let's just wait and see if Spider-Man isn't more condescending crap. Oh well, I must now write my next sermon, "Fanboys In the Hands of an Angry Nerd". B-Spears and J-Lo as cum-guzzling Twi'leks in Ep III! And Beetlejuice (from Stern) as BizarroYoda. Or just throw the 1979 Holiday Special up there as the Epilogue. Whew....
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Hmm... I don't remember any Muppets being in SW. MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T THERE. Just because Frank Oz is involved with the movie doesn't mean that there were muppets there. Frank Oz has done some great work, and is a respected man in the film industry. Trying to compare the Muppets to Nsync is an argument you can't win. They are nothing alike, and nsync is actually IN the movie, while the muppets weren't. Oh and you conceded my argument that most people SUPPORTED Lucas back in the day, so you lose.
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Jan 02, 2002 10:19:11 PM CST
boy i can't wait for spiderman to come out this spring!
by yeah i'm a jerk!
i'm gonna laugh when spiderman kicks episode 2's lame ass! by the way i really hate n'sync!
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Not being a Star Wars fan I can say that while I don't really care, it does kind of cheapen the movie and Lucas as a director if this is indeed true. And to all of the fan boys whining about it, you know you're going to go see the movie anyways so stop crying, hell Lucas could shit on a strip of celluloid and call it Episode 2 and you people would go running. So to all of those, I believe Michael DeLuise said it best in Encino Man, SHOOSH!
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Joey Ramone was a big ABBA fan. He even re-recorded some of his songs on one of the Ramones 80's albums in ABBA's studio so that he could get some of their magic. He said he wanted it to be as good as theirs (ABBA). He even wrote a great article on them for a 1999 Mojo magazine. Are the Ramones now something less to you? I hope I didn't ruin Joey's reputation for you.
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No one is denying you the right to see "Attack of the N'Clones"
It's just that many of us consider ourselves old Star Wars fans, but feel that GL has taken the series to crap-city.
Star Wars IMO aren't supposed to be "just movies".
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Fozzie Bear and Yoda share the same voice. Exactly. "How you grow so big eating food like this wacca wacca wacca". He a puppet...operated and voiced by Frank Oz...Jim Henson was originally supposed to do it. Yeah, you're right, no muppet connection at all.
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Ok bitches, the KING hereby DECREES that RECESS is in session for my LOYAL SUBJECTS. Why? I'll tell you why, bitch. Because we've SCHOOLED every Twatty Nelson and Nickel Whore dragging their Vader cape (mudhole stopmed in it -tm- GENERAL JACKSON) through the mud. No bitches worth left SCHOOLING. Sure, there's a few Twatty Nelson's and bitchy-bitches here and there who MISS THE POINT of what it means to even put them in the flick (we know they arent in it for long, BITCH, its the PRINICIPAL of it all. You see BITCHES, after GENERAL JACKSON marched on Skywalker Ranch, the stakes were raised, and we dont have to take this BS anymore). In other words G'nite Lucas, G'nite ILAME, G'nite Bitches, here's the directions to the theater, FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING is playing all day and night, enjoy. And you have just been SCHOOLED by the KING of Talkback! Whip-Tash! (The Balrogs Bullwhip, in my honor)
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You know, you can try (and some of you already have) to defend this rumour all you like: it won't change the fact that George has shown a phenomenal lack of taste, not to mention a complete disregard of the feelings of his millions of paying non-N'Sync fans, in this embarrassing, ham-fisted and ugly to reaching a wider audience. Of COURSE it matters that N'Sync will be there in the background of a scene. Not for me personally: George lost me at TPM. But I would hate to be a full-on SW fan right now . . .
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A cold November day, circa 2001. Rick McCallum enters Lucas office on the Ranch - Rick: George, I've got a TERRIBLE idea! -- Lucas: SOLD! And that, BITCH, is how TPM parts I - III are written. LOL. SCHOOLED by the KING of Talkback! Whip-tash! (The Balrog's bullwhip, hitting its mark - the calendar, the day and year Lucas started writing 'the prequels' in my honor and to signal my departure)
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"You can break these things you know"
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My argument wasn't that THERE'S NO CONNECTION BETWEEN THE MUPPETS AND STAR WARS. My argument is that just because Frank Oz is connected with the movie doesn't mean that everyone will assume that he will resume his Muppet mode. That's like saying that because Kubrick directed Spartacus, he will throw gladiator fight scenes into eyes wide shut. Frank oz directed Bowfinger... boy that movie was abounding with Muppets!!! AND ONCE AGAIN you fail to answer my argument that most people didn't feel pissed off at Lucas back in the day because most people loved the original three, unlike TPM, which had a mixed respone at best.
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My argument is that members of Nsync will be extra's playing Jedi and will in no part be Nsync singing or dancing or lipsyncing. They will be actors in a movie, like everyone else in it. If the Emperor walks them into his office and introduces them to Amidala as Nsync, Lance, Joey, Justin, JC and the other guy, then you have a point. But otherwise your point makes no sense. Two of them have done a movie outside of Nsync. TOUCHE. TOUCHDOWN. HE SHOOTS HE SCORES! THERE IS A NEW KING NOW!
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It's N'SYNC.......in a Star Wars movie........nuff said.
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Jan 02, 2002 10:57:39 PM CST
Lucas should grease up and get REAMED by both 'N Sync AND BU
by jaxx man
I can't take this crap anymore!!! THIS MOVIE SUCKS. WE ALL KNEW IT. At least there is a bright side.
We can write off this second trilogy as pure junk and dismiss it outright like we do the later Pink Panther movies.
I don't consider the new films "canon" - the stuff at http://www.geocities.com/buttbackender/ButtBackender.html is just as much "canon" to me as this new drivel. I knew it when I saw TPM and I have never been more certain. -
Crowley wins. Still sad, though.
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...trying to use logic and facts, tempered with (hopefully) well stated opinions and views. I don't care that Greedo shoots first. I loved Phantom Meanace without reservation. I don't mind Jar Jar. But, I've gotta say, this really sucks. I know that we won't be able to see the little pipsqeaks, and ultimately, it really won't affect the quality of the film at all. I know he just had the boys on the set to make his daughters happy. Hopefully, their cameo won't be any more prevelant than that of Mark Hamill's son (of course, maybe Hamill's kid can act, who knows?), but damn...A boy band in Star Wars. That really sucks.
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This is just too much! Marketing at it's worst. But fear not, my young geeks, for I feel that NSUX will be nothing but a blip on the radar. But it is a sad day indeed for SW fans everywhere. Including me.....**snif**
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Jan 02, 2002 11:02:02 PM CST
Vicco, you're actually proving the point for us naysayers...
by the killer-goat
We should just pretend that 25 years of internet technology don't exist to speed along the gossip and rumors, just to keep the objectivity of the first trilogy? As if word of mouth wasn't enough gossip back then? GL has already stated he won't pay attention to the internet, like that means anything to the millions of us (yes, you too) who DO see this shit online. As I said, it ain't old-school Star Wars, it's a whole new ballgame and George can do whatever the hell he wants but media is media and it WILL work against him if he's not careful. Us geeks are only a nominal percentage of sales, but we eat the stuff up--IF it's good. As posted before, the NSYNC rumor may be used for the wrong purposes. If not, oh well, but why not get EXTRAS who can actually ACT? Or don't act but come much cheaper!
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I heer Darth Vader is going to tern evil. It would so ruin the movie Luca$ has established. I love Episode I and II, but I won't spend my Euros on this sellout. Plus thair going to kill off Jar Jar and replace him with a guy in a COSTOOM? Luca$ has lost his mind. I hope thare wont be an episode IV, this franchise is DEAD!
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The comparison between these films is no longer valid.
IMO STAR WARS best hope is to be compared to CANNONBALL RUN 2.
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I've come to the realization that even though FOTR has some flaws, it is at least 100 times better than TPM. Star Wars is officially in the toilet.
But let's face it, like someone mentioned above, the original trilogy wasn't exactly the pinnacle of filmmaking either.
We were kids, we liked the spaceships and stuff. Our pre-1999 nostalgia was shattered by the abomination known as TPM. Poop and fart jokes and a Stepinfetchit CGI monstrosity brought a once-proud franchise to its knees.
This is simply the final nail in the coffin. Lucas doesn't care about Star Wars anymore. He cares about making a movie for his kids. Which is fine, but I'm tired of pretending that he's just in a slump. Episodes 2 and 3 will suck. No, I don't know this. But I don't know that the sun will rise tomorrow morning, yet it's a safe bet.
I'm going to see FOTR again tomorrow. We need a new trilogy to replace the rotting carcass that is Star Wars. I encourage everyone to see FOTR over and over again.
It's time to stop pretending that TPM was an aberration. I think Empire Strikes Back was the aberration. TPM and ROTJ are more representative of Lucas' "vision".
Even though Peter Jackson didn't bat 1.000 with FOTR, at least he swung for the fences.
I apologize for criticizing FOTR. We need more filmmakers like Peter Jackson who are willing to put it all on the line.
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Jan 02, 2002 11:10:07 PM CST
Funny how many people in this talkback profess to hate anything
by llghtst0rmer
...if you hate this movie because NSync is in it, you were already going to hate it regardless. If this ruins the movie for you, it's pretty sad. I can say with all certainty that when I see the flick in five months, I will NOT be scanning the screen for any of these fucking guys; I'll be watching the damn movie. Shit, I loved Final Fantasy and James Woods was one of the main characters. If you ask me, James Woods is a bigger asshole than all five of these boy band bitches put together. So why should I hate a Star Wars movie just because these guys are in the flick in such a minor capacity? If I don't like "Clones," it's because the film itself turns out to disappoint me. Who gives a shit who the extras are?
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happy holidays everybody!
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I'm using irony as a weapon. Turning the mirror on everyone else. Showing that the same lame anti-Lucas stuff could be applied to the old movies. Everyone today is just bitchy and whiny. LOTR is the flavor of the moment. People will whinge later. I'm just sick of everyone making a big deal out of what is really nothing. Like someone else said, no planes were flown into a building. Get over it and yourselves. BTW, I doubt the Nsync guys got paid. Lucas (or McCallum) probably saved 50 bucks x 5. Thats 250 bucks that can go towards improving Jar Jars animation.
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just like in Willow when Fin Raziel "morfed" from a tiger to a woman? George is OVER.. well to be honest he has been "over" since the last 2 star wars movie... Here is the Truth: george has ONLY made one movie on his own.. TPM..that was all him. Truth:*Star Wars.. his wife helped him a lot in editing,story changes,ect.*Empire... he was BARELY on the set.. ( he has said this in tons of interviews BEFORE the movie came out)*Jedi.. he puts out blame and take credit for many things .. because the director is dead.. so who knows??*TPM.. is ALL HIM .. (enjoy!). WHY didn't George in the original Star Wars put : Leif Garrett , Shaun Cassedy, Andy Gibb, Donny Osmand & or Bobby Sherman in the first movie in "cameos" or X Wing fighters??? hmmmm MAYBE because George wasn't a HASBEEN! also his EGO wasn't SO BIG, that he would actually listen to "close friends" advice to help his film...now it's all him.Having Nsync in this new movie TOPS it for me.. I am NOT going to ever see this one.. or the 3rd one.. ( in theater or on dvd)George is so desperate to put these "cameos" in.. is he thinking "hey, if I put in these cameos for different "target groups"(13 year old girls) they will come see my movie more then once LOOKING for my "teen pop Cameos"... "but I'll make sure to hide them.. so they have to come back and see the movie 3 or 4 times.." I NEVER thought I'd say or think this.. BUT George TOPPED JAR JAR Binks with this one!!! I never thought it would be done.. but he did it. Such "Douche Chills" thinking about this. I could only imagine this scene in the new movie.. Jar Jar telling Anakin " Meeeeza.. go seeea N sync-a!"
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... who here REALLY LIKES the idea of N'SYNC being in the movie? Be honest. If you do, then why? Are you into the band. If you do, fine. But from the perspective of what will contribute towards a better film, from an artistic vantage point, how do they really "add" to it? Or do we all chalk it up to artist's conceit. Maybe, in the long run, the sum of it's parts will eclipse the occasional lapses in judgement -- I hope so. All I'm saying is Lucas has his work cut out for him. He has much to make up for. So many of his own fans are becoming naysayers. Good luck, George. I wish you well.
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lucas makes star wars, he has the power. Crying about it is not gonna make a difference. Besides whats a 2 second shot where some dumb extras die? not like hes giving them title roles. Hey, look on the bright side, they DIE! any movie where nsync dies is ok in my book :)
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Jan 02, 2002 11:16:27 PM CST
Ritter, Guns, you're a minority for the time being...
by the killer-goat
at least on this talkback. That is, since you want to turn this into a Star Wars vs. LOTR debate. I liked the old trilogy and I like the LOTR, but TPM's only real fully engrossing moments are the jedi and space battles, which still left plot, characters, acting, and theme open to debate (and debate there was!) There're alot of solid SW fan posters here expressing disappointment. Any other folks here under 17 disappointed with TPM in the slightest? That's the crowd that determines the future of the franchise more than us old folks, and if the next film fails to please that group, it's all over.
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Sammy Davis jr will be resurrected courtesy of the magic of CG in the new Star Wars movie ;"Attack of the N'Clones".
He will play a hilarious starfighter pilot named "Alo Jolsono" who bumps into Obi and Ani on Coruscant.
The reason for this according to Director/Producer Rick McLucas is he felt that the chase sequence on Coruscant was too exciting and tense.
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ZeroCorpse, I soooo agree with U! Breakin' was 2 fresh for wurds. I heer that thair ging to make a sequal called Electric Boobaloo. That would be such a sellout! I hope its not tru. That would be like calling a Star Wars moovie Attack of the Clones, as though Empire Strikes Back wasn't already bad enuf.
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Cheesy titles, the horrid goofy alien characters as comic relief and now this...the lowest possible denominator, boy band jedi. For those of you decrying this and laughing at the ribing SW fans are going to take, let me say do not not choose the quick and easy path. Despite the "family consulting" that has tainted and in some respects tarnished a once admirable franchise, allow me this one simple question: Can't it be said that depspite all the crap that can be laid at George's doorstep, is still one true crime is that he's been unable to write dialogue effectively? Naysay boy bands and Jar Jar all you want, but the fact of the matter is, these easy targets will ALWAYS be eclipsed by a lack of story. With any luck, most of us will revel in the idea of NSuck being disemboweled...so let's get on with it, and concentrate on more pertinent issues like writing...if there's any left.
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Last week I took my 14 year old nephew and 10 year old niece to see FOTR. And my niece thought that Legolas was Justin Timberlake. "It is him, Uncle Comedian! It is!" Having the actual guy now in Star Wars makes me suspect that there is something seriously wrong with the space time continuum and my niece is actually some God-like monster like that kid in that Twilight Zone episode.
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Jan 02, 2002 11:26:03 PM CST
re : lord of the rings rocked, it had no contemporary references
by azure tyger
Uh, wrong.
FotR was a pretty good movie, and once all of you social gimps finish with your masturbatory delusions you'll see that it has plenty of flaws.
How about this line: "Nobody tosses a dwarf!" That is exactly the kind of pop culture, cheap reference that you mongoloids are bitching about. Or how about Merry and Pippin in blackface from the fireworks? Wow that was original. Or how about the casting of semi-talented Cate Blanchett as Galadriel the mystic oracle?
Fact is, while it was a good movie, it paled in comparison to the books that it raped. Its pacing was so poorly conceived that I had to explain the timeline to about 15 people afterwards.
So get off the Peter Jackson bonded love wagon, you little mouth breathers. The guy did a good adaptation of a great book that will NOT stand up over time as a classic. You guys can beat off about it all you want, but your need to use Tolkien to bash Lucasfilm smacks of lackwit desperation.
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When I read that N'Sync was going to be Jedi Knights in Episode 2 I felt my heart jump to my throut. Nothing personal against the group, I would have love to see the Ramones or other ultra cool group. I was wondering if George had forgotten the fans that keep his franchise alive. Upon doing a little research (including checking out this site) I discover they are going to be killed off fast, and by androids no less. George has not forgotten about his fans. Thanks for giving us a new movie memory.
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HEY, We're bashing here!!
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I nearly fell off my chair with that one : )
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I heer thair going to start filming Episode 7. Those of us that grue up with The Phantom Menace," "Attack of the Clones," and "Return of the Sith Lords," are being SOLDOUT by this roomer I saw on CNN's The Naked News. Luca$ is actually casting Destiny's Grandcild as extras in "Episode 7 . . . Return to Oz." What's a prison show dooing in the title anyway? That series wasn't even science fiction and portrayed gay rapes as bad!, if I recall corectly. Luca$ has soldout, but at least we have that new Lord of the Rings movie coming out, "A New Hope."
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now i can hump my pillows and picture beefy joey fatone in jedi gear. dreamy!
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GunsBlazing, what does this have to do with LOTR? It's like every time someone criticises Star Wars, you are straight away ranting about your hate for LOTR. Who cares? What does LOTR have to do with GL putting *NSync into his film? NOTHING. What does LOTR have to do with GL selling his soul for those ever-important marketing dollars? NOTHING. Get over it. The inclusion of *NSync in Star Wars will weaken an already-struggling franchise. Bleating about your dislike for LOTR won't change that fact.
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Aragorn: Are you scared?
Frodo: Yes
Aragorn: Not nearly scared enough!
I'm sure Ewan Mcgregor (sic) is just gonna' love this development, as well.
Why wasn't Lucas walking on that lonely Maine road instead of Stephen King!!!!
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god, you will probably have to pause the damn DVD to even notice where they are in the film, get a life!
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...is that Lucas obviously put N'Sync in the film in order to give a big middle-finger to all Original Trilogy fans. He is actively trying to incite us, to aggravate us, to make us mad. And you know what? He's winning...just look at this talkback for evidence. How do we win? Don't see the film. If you must, wait until an ignorant friend rents it on video, and watch it then. Or wait until it premieres on FOX circa 2004. But before that, don't give that cocknocker Lucas a dime of your hard-earned cash. That is, if you don't want to be Lucas' personal cock sucker- "It's OK George, you can piss on me all you want...I'll love you no matter how much you abuse me. Now hand me that cock so I can suck it off!!!"
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You cocksmokers actually LIKED that Lord of the Rings flick?? It was more boring than a sloppy toothless blowjob from your mothers.
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All your irony is well placed and Star Wars would have been different if web geeks had the opportunity to pounce on tidbits like this. But after that, what's the point of hindsight? If you've been watching the AICN talkbacks then you're more than aware that TPM was a hilly ride for fans rather than a full sweeping success. To anyone reading between the lines, you're irony only broadens the gap between the trilogies and reinforces that the franchise has so much to live up to here and now, especially with these kinds of sites, and based on the level of industry that Lucas and his own ILM helped propogate. Put it another way: it didn't cost PJ anywhere near as much to recoup the FOTR production as it will for Lucas for AOTC--that's a hell of an expensive film to throw ambivalence at in the face of our current media matrix. NSYNC may not hurt the film for such a negligible appearance, but you're witness here to the fact that it ain't helping our mass pre-release impressions.
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Jan 02, 2002 11:39:43 PM CST
I'll Wait for the DVD, then program it skip over the crap.
by billy_zardus
Like with TPM, where thanks to some slick editing the movie is: Opening credits,lightsaber duel,closing credits.
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I'm one of the biggest fans ever and no matter what anyone says that will never change. When I heard the N'Sync story I just rolled my eyes and thought "Oh the talkbackers are going to eat Lucas alive." That's my only concern, not them being in the movie cause it means nothing to the plot. This in no way alters the movie... only difference is now instead of that guy getting blown up it will be that guy from n'sync getting blown up.. and the only way you'll know is that you read it on the internet, and we all know how accurate the internet is. I wouldn't like it if they were clearly standing there. If they had a line I'd be pissed, but I'm totally happy about how they are depicted.. It's almost a shot at the group, they get blown up for god's sakes. People always joke that they wished N'Sync would die... well Lucas is making that dream come true.
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From TheForce.Net:
"Brace yourselves: The boys of 'N Sync will have a cameo in the upcoming Star Wars: Episode II--Attack of the Clones. A Lucasfilm spokeswoman confirmed what Star Wars fan sites had been buzzing about for days, saying the fivesome will appear briefly in a "big scene."
A SPOKESWOMAN FOR LUCASFILM. There you have it, for those of you who STILL think this is a rumor.
There is, is, is, oh god I can't stand it anymore! We are all FANS IN THE HANDS OF A PUSSY GEORGE.
Okay, now, I've got it out of my system. I think George has always felt like this. This is what happens when his TRUE vision comes to life. The Greedo thing should be put back to rights, but if he wants it there, he deserves to be the producer, writer, and director of the biggest bombs.
Greedo's surprised ass now lies in the heap of edited dreams alongside Penisbreath. We are all doomed. I'm just glad Peter Jackson isn't stupid enough to change the name of The Two Towers to The Happy Hobbit's Second Adventure. -
I've seen his reaction to the title, but what other negative comments has he said about Ep II? Anybody have links? Just curious...
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Yes - just read it at http://www.geocities.com/buttbackender/ButtBackender.html in the movie news/reviews section - trying to find more news at Hasbro.com....
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Jan 02, 2002 11:41:56 PM CST
So nice of you to quote me. Now permit me to return the favour.
by ol' painless
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The boy who put the "U" in "IGNORANT"
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Obviously there isn't enough baseless lamentation about absolutely nothing, so it's time for me to put in my two cents.
First off, I probably know more about Star Wars than most of you, and I have the balls to say that, despite getting flamed by people with a far lower social status than myself. So here's a pre-emptive FUCK YOU to the smart-asses. But then, everyone has the right to their opinion, no matter how closed-minded, or misanthropic it may be. Now, on with the show...
When I heard that N'SYNC were getting a cameo in Attack Of The Clones, I chuckled, then I moved on with my life. I wasn't upset, I didn't call Lucas as sell-out or whatever is the word du jour, I simply moved on. But then I have a life, and I have to take into account that some of you do not, and that's...ok.
Look, If Lucas wants to put Barney in his film, so be it, it is his film, not yours, no matter how much you devote your life to it. And if he wanted to do it for his daughter, step-daughter, foster daughter, or even god-daughter, Fuck You for even saying that it's wrong. Where the Fuck you any of you get off? Seriously.
For everyone of you that say that Lucas has sold out or that he has raped his own creation, think of this: Yes, he sells out...every theater in every metropolis, small town and burg. For every freakazoid fanboy that swears that he refuses to see this "dreck", there will be 6 or more to take your place. Plus, that will be more seats open for me and my more humane and objective people.
But then let's be honest, each and everyone of you will be there, despite what you say. LOTR isn't the be all to end all, but rigt now, it is one of my favorite films of 2001, and worthy of repeat viewings, which I have done. But then I'm not on LOTR's nuts either. It's a movie, not a life altering event, and if any of you think that film was, then it's obvious that you haven't had good pussy in like...ever.
Do not live vicariously through your favorite films, because you will be disappointed. I love Star wars, I play Rogue Squadron every weekend (with friends), Hell, it's the reason I bought a GameCube, but all the triviality will not consume me, not like the majority here.
If you don't like N'SYNC, fine. Leave your basements and bedrooms and do better. Think Lucas failed you? Make me a better film, and do it in a way that will appeal to the masses, fuck, do it how you want. Just don't bitch without basis.
You know, I didn't hate the Phantom Menace. I didn't care for Jar-Jar, but you know what? It was part of the story, and I will see it again, and that's that. I'm a fan. That is what it means to be a fan of something, to support it, to enjoy the work. None of you are fans, because you spend more time bitching about how things should be and not accepting how they are.
Call me what you want, and I'll provide multiple e-mail addys for you to say it...if you have the balls. Or the gumption. hrhathaway@msn.com, hhathaway@wireamericainc.com, DirtyRatBastard@BlackPlanet.com...if you need more, I'll deliver them. I'd post my number, but that is for more normal people, not Troglodytes.
Take a step back, breathe, and think, "Why Does This Matter?" If you can come up with an answer, please let me know. Remember, George Lucas thinks about you as much as YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT HIM. In other words, enjoy the movie, and shut the fuck up. That simple. Flame on...Oh, and P.S. If I like Star Wars in its current as well as past forms, does that make me any less a fan or my points any less relevant than yours? If so, why is that? Sleep on it. -
I was already disappointed by just having heard Anibitch's whining in the trailers along with Natalie's extremely pinocchio-like wooden deliveries (One day I'll be a REAL girl! "Ani.. I am surprised at how you seemed.. to have... grown.. exclamation point") Now I've truly come to the realization that George has totally lost touch with who we are - and by "we" I mean the guys and girls that helped make Lucas rich in the 70's and 80's. The people who never had a bad thing to say about Star Wars until Jar Jar Binks. And Annie. Baby Greedo. Bantha shit and farting, boring plotlines (you cannot have exciting trade arguments, you just can't)and especially actors who HATE the roles they're now contracted to do for two more movies. I looked at Viccy's post above about the girlfriend you loved way back when who you simply made god-like in your eyes.. but upon meeting her again, she's not the same. That's so true. Unfortunately she came back a wasted Honduran crack whore with knocked out teeth and a wad of cash stuck up her cooze. You're more than a little disappointed.. you're more shocked and disgusted than anything. "What in the FUCK happened to YOU?," you ask, a little sad, very concerned. "Lucas did this to me.." she'll whisper as she attacks you with leftover talking Jar-Jar dolls and warehouses full of Darth Maul T-Shirts. She needs cleaning up - Which is exactly what we need to do to our tripple-chinned, hooch-guzzling, fan-raping, bloated son-of-a-bitch once-god .. Pork Lucas.. Man, you goddamn Kenny-Rogers-Crazy lardassed, kooky motherfucker. If this is the way you repay the people who stood behind you through the ewoks of the 80's and mediocre re-releases of the 90's.. well guess what you porky, sweaty Taco Bitch.. you're falling right on your face in handing us these piece of shit excuses for movies - Well, fine, make your movies, but don't expect another penny out of me, this is a promise, and by the way the TB looks, a lot of people (once true fans) agree with me. Lucas has officially fucked up. RIP Star Wars.
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Ahem, quit stealing my thunder. The thing that bothers me IS that no one seems capable of viewing either LotR or Star Wars with any rational human moderation. Indeed, Fellowship is beyond criticism just as Star Wars is apparently without redemption to the boiling masses on AICN. I can't for the life of me see what the big deal is with this non-news about NSYNC anymore than I can fathom the orgasmic bleating of the LotR flock.
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Jan 02, 2002 11:45:18 PM CST
it doesn't bother me, they get killed right away, anyway, do
by joeypogi
dude
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It will be a small cameo, no dialogue, big deal. Perk of being a celebrity, you get to do really cool shit that most wouldn't like appear in a Star Wars film. You don't like their music? Fine. But the whole boy-band bashing is getting about as old as the whole "jump the shark" and "has a beer and cheets" shit. Get over it. They may not be the greatest singers and dancers but stop hatin' cause they are rich, get a lot of ass and one of them is banging Britney Spears. You'll all go see the damn movie anyway, even if it had Kathie Lee Gifford doing the Cha-Cha w/ Jar Jar Binks.
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When exactly do you think the exact moment the Star Wars series "Jumped the Shark".
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i blame Lucas's daughters. those fat little fucks. i want to sniff their bicycle seats.
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If you have a life, why the long post?...sorry ,you make a valid point..:).....But seriously guys (and girls?) George Lucas put N'SYNC in his new SW movie.
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my kwanzaa was pretty good, how was yours?
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I didn't get a kwanzaa for Christmas this year, but I really liked my gift certificate for Media Play.
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Ok, ok. I'm sorry if I may have offended anyone in my above post. I guess I was just kinda angry and wanted to let off some steam. Look, I'm not trying to say that not liking the prequels or Lucas is wrong. That is your opinion and I respect that. The problem occurs when you start personally attacking people. I'm not saying that all SW bashers attack defenders, but some do. I feel we should express our opinions without inmply that the opposition are idiots. I admit,TPM was not good in a lot of areas. However, I am still holding hope until ATOC actually is realised. I feel that you shouldn't bash a movie until after it comes out. But thats only my opinion, if you disagree thats fine. But just make sure you respect it. I realize it is good to have dicussions, because it can help strenghen ones viewpoints. Peace, to all bashers and gushers alike.
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(An even more pallid Neo cowers under a desk, praying that the storm may pass without his being drawn into it yet again)
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Gimmicks are bad. Do YOU know why? If not, you will know when all the 14 year-old girls swoon, hoot, and holler.
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emotion was what got this whole thread started. Gut reaction, over-protectiveness and shock. You achieve the somber passivity to let it go sooner than many, grand master, but don't go away mad! Give us another chance!
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Jan 03, 2002 12:06:46 AM CST
Jimmy Hoots, One of my internal organs are going to explode laug
by billy_zardus
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LOL...oh bitches... You know what BITCH I love? This GUNSkindaSMOKIN'. You remember him, right SUBJECTS? The same Star BORES bitch who tries to act hardass by using swear words, yet he's BASHED Fellowship, but with EVERY fiber of his being DEFENDS all things ILAME...LOL! SCHOOLED! Give it up, bitches, you need to go back to Pokemon forums, that's where your intellectual equals are. LOL...you see we fans of LOTR, the Matrix, etc, don't want to BABYSIT you Twatty Nelsons anymore. LOL...here, we'll put on TPM I (aka Ewan McGregor's Greatest Regret Pt. I) on for you in the kiddy room, it outta keep you bitches quiet. LOL...SCHOOLED! Seriously, Star Wars should no longer even be discussed in the realms of LOTR and such...Think about it, would it be a big deal if Ani-Sync and his crew were in Pokemon II or the latest Disney flick? LOL, hell no, so who cares if they're in Duck Tales in Space Pt. II (story -tm- Aaron Spelling)? I mean, its not like GENERAL JACKSON is letting them into his one flick to RULE them all. LOL...Man, too bad Harry didnt have a talk-back for when GENERAL JACKSON absolutely SCHOOLED ILAME and Lucas in some paper. Face it bitches, STAR BORES is DEAD. You've seen the 90210 Trailer, you know what's coming. Oh, I forgot there's that AWESOME shot of the stiff, cartoony clones walking onto ships. LOL. And you, bitch, have just been SCHOOLED by the KING of Talkback! Whip-TASH! (The Balrogs bullwhip, to signal my departure)
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This one point I will concede to your ilk: don't underestimate the misplaced power of 14 year old girls. After all, it was this demographic (and one or two really wierd 30-something men) that made the pedestrian and cloying "Titanic" the highest grossing film in American history.
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You're attacking SW effects? You actually believe LOTR had better effects than TPM and AOTC? Now you can attack other things all you want but don't attack what we all know is great. Even the biggest Star Wars ripper has to give props to film's technical aspects.
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Jan 03, 2002 12:15:28 AM CST
Holy gangsta tripping stereotypical bunny rabbits that get their
by neosamurai85
Hey Everybody I
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Jan 03, 2002 12:16:27 AM CST
You know, if ever I need a good laugh, all I have to do is read
by exit272
Anyway, if N*Stync all get kilt by androids, what's the problem?
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I would care about this news if I actually cared about Star Wars Episode two. I mean, these people who are so excited about AOTC, did you even watch TPM(Big dissapointment)? That was a horrible, horrible childrens movie(at least I hope it was trying to be a childrens movie, otherwise, OMFG!!!). I've seen good childrens movies before, but that wasn't it.
When I heard N'Sync(whatever) where going to have a cameo I was thinking, "Figures". It seems so right after having Jar Jar and casting whoever played anakin in TPM. It all fits! Come on, The new trilogy is a comedy to make us laugh at how horrible it is, sort of like "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes". Sit, back and relax for some horrible film making.
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Ah, GunsBlazing. I am left gaping at your witty wordplay and well-reasoned arguments. Surely I cannot reply until I have thought up a similarly pithy comeback! Think think think ... (I could be some time) ...
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Lucas is so fucking weak. I bet that he used to change his kids diapers and still washes the dishes when his wife tells him too. Fucking weak. His daughter is gonna get shit at school. I hope Sam Jackson and Ewen McGregor kick nsync's ass. I dont mean in the film either, I mean when they're singing and dancing around the pissing off the caterers.
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Jan 03, 2002 12:22:59 AM CST
Nsync Should Not Be IN AOTC, And I Can't Speak For Anyone E
by the founder
Everytime someone speaks out about Nsync or Britney, they are labled either jealous or a hater, now while some have merit, a lot of the critizism is honest. I don't hate Nsync, in fact I've liked a song or two by them, but my biggest problem isn't with them, it's with corperate america, and their desire to control, and own everything. If you think a big deal isn't going to be made about them being in AOTC then I honestly do have a bridge for sale. I stopped watching MTV because of the shamelss overexposure, and promotion of certain artists that sell, while others that will give a diverse flavor to music is locked out. All this because record giants want to keep these good selling artists at the top, and the threat of any new artist capturing fans is out of the question, so all you see on MTV is the same posse of good selling artist videos being shown over and over until they come out with their next one, with Nsync and Britney being the worst of this crap. I'm a young man,and I like my fill of videos as the next guy, and at least BET was more diverse with different artist, but that's starting to end with Viacom buying the station, and now it's slowly becoming a clone(this is the real Attack Of The Clones) of MTV, and the most annoying thing is that with all the R&B and Hiphop acts out there I should never have to see Nsync on BLACK ENTERTAINMENT TELEVISION.
Nothing about Nsync screams urban music, but because urban makes up 40 percent of music sales in the US, greedy music giant BMG have Nsync adding urban influenced tracks to their music, and putting them on BET, trying to sale them to the demographic that buys urban music. If the cameo wasn't talked about then I wouldn't have a problem, but i know this is a marketing ploy to sale more tickets for Lucas, while BMG's boyband gains more popularity, and credibility outside the pop music demographic, which a lot of adults over 21 see it as teen music, but teens are fickle, where adults are more stable, and usally remains loyal to an artist, so both parties win. I'll bet my life savings that Nsync appearing in AOTC is going to be made a big deal, and the other poster is right, their will be a special with Nsyns, and Star Wars on MTV, mark my words. Corperate America is determined to make Nsync this century's Beatles, and Britney into MaDonna, and they'll be damned if we don't like them, they will force them on population. The worst thing about this is that the Nsync members actual believe they are artistically talented, and even going so far as to say the academy members of the Grammy's are dated in their judgement, because they haven't won a Grammy. These guys need help, they think they should be respected by the entire music industry because they've sold a lot of albums, when they hasn't even paid their dues in the business, they came in and sailed right to the top, god help celebrities who think they are important, when in reality the truth is they are the case of quinity over quality. -
My gods. What in the living blue FUCK was Lucas thinking? If there are any Lucasfilm people reading this: Hey, guys, I think it's about time for a coup. Lucas has become the single biggest danger to his own success. What a letdown. And I was all happy about 2002... Sorry I'm rambling; it's because I'm too utterly fucking shocked to think of anything witty.
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As far as I'm concerned, this whole franchise can burn in Hell. Doesn't Georgie Boy have enough money without catering to the pre-14 year old girlies and teenieboppers??? Why didn't he cast Leonardo DiCaprio in the film as we all first feared? At least then it would have made this simple.
I DONT CARE IF THEY ARE ONLY in the background - IF it was SO INSIGNIFICANT, then WHY EVEN MENTION that N SYNC is in it? Its the principle that count. I dont know about all of you, but I'm going back to
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I guess it was only a matter of time before someone revealed the evil plot between George Lucas and American big business to destroy American pop culture. I just wonder where Microsoft fits in? My bet would be that Lucasfilm makes very little issue of the whole thing. That will likely be the determining factor in whether or not I ever buy into the Luca$ $ux crowd's dogma.
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Think of the movies that stand the test of time...Gone With the Wind, Ben Hur, The Godfather, Star Wars and many more.
Do you think these movies would hold the same credibility if they featured Pop stars of the time, even in cameos? How much credibility would The Godfather have if David Cassidy were one of the Wiseguys?
Would Star Wars be the same if the Bee Gees were X-Wing fighter pilots?
NStync being Jedis, even in cameos, is just as ridiculous and would seem to indicate that George is not taking these films as seriously as he should.
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Well I think it
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But it certainly wouldn't surprise me at this point. The EP II trailer with Portman changing into Britney outfits sort of paves the way. He's probably better off hedging his bets with the next generation.
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Man that was funny. Anyone who calls 1980's "Bubblegum Metal" GLAM needs a severe beating.-----later-----m
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According to Conan O'Brien George Lucas put the boy band in there in an attempt to make C-3PO look less gay... heh...hehehe... HAHAHAHAAHAH!!! So I hope this matter is settled.
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Did anyone hear that joke on Conan about Star Was and the whole boy band thing? HA! HA! HA! GOD I LOVE CONAN!
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Exactly. Is this genius or sell-out on Lucas' part? Possibly both, in his mind. It will be interesting to see the teeny-boppers in theater and their reaction to the AOTC. I can see it now, "Where the hell is N'Sync!!?!!?!" OR "WHOOOOOHOOO!!!! N'Sync!!! WOOWOOWOOOOOWOWOWHHOOOOO!!!!" (which pisses everyone one in the theater off). In my opinion an artist shouldn't need gimmicks to get people to see/hear/read their work, and CLEARLY, AOTC doesn't need them. Hell, name another film franchise with a larger fan base? Again, this will not affect the quality of the film...but it will affect the image. I believe there is a distinction. I still believe AOTC-THE FILM will be great based on what I know of it, but Star Wars-THE IMAGE has been slightly tarnished. Again, if this had somehow been kept under wraps and "discovered" after release, it wouldn't be as big of a deal. Lucasfilm knows the "media" will run with this N'Sync thing and play it up. Free advertising. They could have easily refrained from confirming or denying this, but alas...
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I predict, in fact, that if Ewan doesn't commit suicide, then at the least, he tries to take a few N'Syncers out with him. Anyway, does ANYONE BELIEVE THIS STORY IS REAL?!
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PLEASE JUST LET ME SEE THEM GET SLICED IN HALF DARTH MAUL STYLE!!!!
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This is fairly weird though. It's just amazing that the fights still break out in here when the words Star Wars are uttered. I didn't realize that a straightforward fantasy series could be so controversial. I have a shitload of SW stuff, but even I have to say it's only a movie. They're all only movies. And Jesus Christ, did someone up there actually say "Schooled?" Who started letting THOSE people in?
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Why all of this hate towards N'Sync? Oh, I see. You hate them for the same reason you hate Hanson and Backstreet Boys: they are young, they are famous, they are millionaire and all the girls wet for them. They are all that all of you, losers, will never be.
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The King and his FELLOWSHIP of Samwise, Gandalf, the Balrog, Lurtz, and Ewan McGregor walk along the wooded path, pausing when we hear a movement in the brush...Samwise: Bitches be near sir, and that's a fact! --- KoTB: Gandalf? --- Gandalf (Casts a dull, yet full light with staff): Ha! There! Bitches, three o'clock! Lurtz: PAAAAAAAIN! -- KotB (Looking at bitch in homemade Fett armor, but speaking to group as a whole): I must break you... (The Fellowhip charges into action, utterly SHAMING and SCHOOLING the bitches beyond belief.) Gandalf (lighting his pipe): Nothing starts an evening like brow-beating a Twatty Nelson like a nickel bitch in his Sunday best! --- McGregor: Thank you, KING, for allowing me to gain a shard of my pride back by brow-beating these bitches. --- KotB: Thank you, loyal subjects for the deserved praise, but we must be off. For there, in the distance, yes, by the Pokemon dolls, bitches remain to be SCHOOLED. LOL... And you bitch, were SCHOOLED by the KING of Talkback! Whip-Tash! (the Balrogs bullwhip, in honor of my regal departure)
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You know, Lab Rat, I think you make valid points. But in the end, Lucasfilms' actions and motivations won't matter one whit because there is a large and vocal base of people lined up to bash it at all costs. I just think it is sad. There is this segment of fandom that simply lives to find fault in everything done with the Star Wars license. The same people wringing their hands about the lack of DVDs would fume at the mouth if Lucasfilm released the original trilogy separately and then again as a box set with the prequels. Logic and reason fly out of the window with these people, and I am frankly embarassed for them.
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Pardon my catchphrase splice, it's late.
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"Report has it that N'YSYNC will star in the next Star Wars". Crowd BOOS "Yeah, Lucas wants to make C-3PO less gay".
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Now that is out the way to my Star Wars nuts.. it's only a few minutes. Hopefully they will die a most gruesome death. As long as they die you should rejoice. Maybe the Backstreet Boys will be cloned Siths and they will battle on an active volcano and by the grace of God will all perish when the volcano erupt. We can all dream right?!
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Jan 03, 2002 1:20:18 AM CST
on the plus side, look how tiny the ET, 2001 and Blade Runner ca
by tall_boy
you probably won't see 'em at all. his daugher is 13, let her get her kicks before the weight of the world crushes her young soul.
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...we hate them because they suck. We don't hate everyone who gets paid and laid and shags Winona, Heather, Drew, etc. Just the ones that really bite. And I say Georgie Porgie can redeem himself to at least the lowest level of Purgatory by including any of the following in Ep III: Weezer, Thom Yorke (as if!), any Beasties and/or Mixmaster Mike, Q-Tip, Tenacious D (especially them!), Scott Weiland, Shirley Manson, David Grohl, or, of course, Beetlejuice (with or without the Smut Peddlers) from the Howard Stern Show. How would YOU counter the poison? The only rule? Keep your choices reasonable from a popularity standpoint. No Beta Bands or Jon Spencers (Sorry). Although the Strokes could be projected to be huge by '05, arguably. All Queensryche, Dream Theater, and Joe Satriani fans should sit this one out. Oh, and I almost forgot Flea. He IS an alien, after all. A kick-ass bass-fiend alien, but an alien nonetheless.
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Jan 03, 2002 1:34:24 AM CST
Anyone who gives a shit about this news needs to go get laid.
by happywaffle
I've got fifty bucks that says our favorite boy band will be COMPLETELY unidentifiable, at least to anyone who doesn't pirate AOTC on their home computer and stay up until 4 in the morning going frame-by-frame to find them. Lucas did not rape my childhood, but pissy Star Wars fans gave it a good hand job. I can't believe we like the same movie.
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Jan 03, 2002 1:34:34 AM CST
I See It's Some Diehard Nsync Fans In Here, And Like god Nsy
by the founder
Some of yuu are quick to point out that because we are bashing Lucas for putting Nsync in AOTC, that we don't have a life. How are you any different that are defending Nsync, and George? It seems you don't have much of a life, because your ass is here posting as well. Not that I need to justify myself, but I work nights, and I have access to the net, and since it's boring as hell I surf the net, and get paid, and if you ever wanna check my posts they are always late night, and as for being jealous of them, please, I could care less if Justin is f%cking Britney, she's a cute girl, but I'm not into white women so you can axe the jealously notion, and as for money, well yeah they are rich, but so are a lot of other celebrities, and you don't see me bashing them. I've said before
in an earlier post that I don't hate Nsync, IN FACT I'M PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE HERE WHO WILL ADMIT, AND NOT BE ASHAMED THAT I'VE LIKED A SONG OR TWO, BUT THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN THE MOVIE. It's another case of corperate greed, and benifit in my opinion. I'll accept them in the film with no problem if it wasn't announced, but if they are doing cameos why is it important to announce it officially? Corperate America is determined to control what we watch, listen to, and probably sooner then we think eat, and sleep. -
The only Rock figure I want to see in a big movie is David Bowie in LOTR! He wanted to do it so bad but they thought he would be too noticeable. WTF!? People kept whispering
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I'm laughing so hard my rectum is bleeding...
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How the hell can a guy in lame ass band standing in the backgorund of a scene determine if a movie is good or not? YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET! That won't stop everyone from saying it sucks though! FUCK YOU ALL! And by the way, LOTR was three hours of trolls walking with cheap scares thrown in so no one would notice it was the most overrated movie of the year.
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I agree with a prior post - (if the rumors are true, which I think they are) we must boycott this movie for a week. Just a week.. Lucas and company depend on us standing on line a week in advanced regardless of the quality of the film. Fan boys watching garbage like Phantom Menace 10 times is what really drives the box office - we gotta use this power.. Wait a week and then see the movie.. Lucas is simply manufacturing a movie to compete with Titanic's record (forbidden love, boy band cameos - teen girls WILL go see this movie in droves JUST to see their heros for 10 seconds.. It's a brilliant tactic actually).. Why doesn't he just show commercials every 15 min? That would be far less degrading
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Did I mention that Grand Theft Auto is a great game! Peace.
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GTA3 and MGS2 have been spinning through my head and PS2 since Christmas Day.
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While the original trilogy featured Oscar nominated writer Lawrence Kasdan, AOtC features... Jonathan Hales (writer of the Scorpion King)... Doesn't that bother you guys at all???
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When was the last time they printed a movie story that was actually true?
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I think its a great idea, I think Justin would have been a good Anakin and Britney can wear that Jabba the hut slave girl costume that would be great, Joey Fat One playing Jabba the Hut. Seriously I was hoping that George Lucas will do us all a favor and make Attack of the Clones the best way he can, this obviously tells us where his head is. He doesnt take the legacy of Star Wars seriously, well he created it so he can destroy it.
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Jan 03, 2002 2:05:15 AM CST
Wow! This has been the longest, most pointless talkback reading
by bry-guy
That took me three hours. Everything was said. Over and over and over and over....and...I just realized that there is absolutely no point to these talkbacks anymore. Any talkbacker with wit, is either frustrated by the vast throngs of, what seem like, 15 year-olds, or relegated to a poignant, funny, 15 line post amidst ten thousand screaming lunatics who all think they are "original". And yes, even what I've just typed has been stated before in this talkback. These hold no meaning. I hereby relinquish my goddamn badge and...
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Since most of you don't seem to get it, cameos are not major parts of a film. NSync will be among lots of extras. You more than likely will not hear them speak(and hopefully not sing), and probably won't even be able to pick them out of the crowd unless you know what they look like. And since all of you hate them, you shouldn't know what they look like. So all of you need to calm the fuck down. NSync's cameo role will not affect the quality of AOTC one way or another. And if you "decide" not to see AOTC or say the film sucks due to this miniscule appearance, then you are petty and had no intention of seeing or liking the film to begin with. So why are you even complaining?
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Jan 03, 2002 2:11:13 AM CST
oh yeah...LOTR is guaranteed ownership of the screen now....
by jezabear
you poor poor poor SW fans.how i pity you. its so sad.
he he he ha ha ha HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA !!!!!
well, the new Anakin does he like he would fit into their group...
maybe they could sing a song together while fighting....
you know do moves to the beat while flashing their man sabers...
oh boy this is hilarious...
BUT, in all seriousness guys...
I remember a small rumour about 6 months ago of Alanis Morisette doing music for LOTR, but that was crap. She even spoke about it somehow....maybe she applied for it or something...
thats what i think of this rumour...UTTER CRAP.
what next...Oprah Winfrey and Bill Clinton smoking a cigar...
come on....this can't be true..
otherwsie LUCAS IS A FOOL and
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Jan 03, 2002 2:12:43 AM CST
Listen...off in the distance.You can hear Spider-Man laughing hi
by spiderblood1969
Yep.It's now official.Star Wars:Episode Two:Attack of the Clones will be Spidey's bitch.But Spidey is a nice guy so he'll let Episode Two make a couple of hundred million.Most of that of course being the overflow crowd that can't get in to see the box office king of 2002:THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN!!!! Eat hot gooey webbing you Jedi fanboys. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ahem...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!! :)
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Oh my god. Say it aint true. i'm never seeing this movie. it's completely ruined. I can't even watch the original trilogy anymore. Seriously folks. Are they singing the end theme? no? then let them fill the scene. It could be worse. you could have no bodies with really bad facial acting. "show me angry" 'grrrrrr'.
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What's the problem? They'll be on screen for two seconds, and then get killed. They're extras. Big f'n deal.
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Jan 03, 2002 2:33:43 AM CST
You people bitched about Jar Jar, and NOW look at what you'v
by wesreviews
I dont' know about the rest of you, but I'd much rather see Jar Jar goofing off on-screen than to see any boy bands associated with the Star Wars universe. Twig's absolutely right. It seems so many LOTR fans feel intimidated by Star Wars and have been so for so long, and they'll do almost anything to put it down. Forgetting, that if they were kids, they'd probably have been bored to death by the film version of Lord of the Rings. I'd much rather see a complete "mindless" FUN movie any day than to sit through a "deep", "intellectual" 3-hour film WITHOUT AN ENDING, which leans on the following movies to tell it's stories. Folks, say what you want about Star Wars, but at least each movie has a clear beginning, middle, and end. Yes, even Empire. Hell, each of the Friday the 13th movies had a definite ending and they're much shorter than LOTR. I had to have somebody check my pulse after Lord of the Rings to make sure I wasn't induced into a coma by the end. It keeps you in a state where you're not quite asleep, but you're not quite awake either. Not a good state to keep an audience in, if you ask me. I think they should have shed about 45 min from the movie and then released it. Until then, I'm firmly on the side of Star Wars, despite the grim cameo news as of late. Besides guys, they're just cameos. Lest you guys convieniently forget about the horrid cartoons from way back when that were made of Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. LOTR hasn't had a 100% perfect cinematic life either you know. Go play with your golden magic rings and leave the Star Wars fans alone. We'll see who kicks whose ass at the box office when all is said and done.
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Why is everyone freaking out? Don't you understand that you won't even be able to see them if they're even there at all. Is it the thought that somewhere in this film is the band N'Sync... I don't know where... but they're there like Waldo... He's in this crowd of thousands somewhere I just know it! I can't believe that the content of the whole movie is being judged by this... Can you honestly say that this ruins the movie, I mean fully? If the movie was oh let's say a 9 before it is a 5 now because of this fact, or fiction for that matter. This is news that will be forgotten by Monday I guarantee.
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Jan 03, 2002 2:52:02 AM CST
Please sat it with me and email it across the Net...
by randy(ask randy)
THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES ON!
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Would we really be upset if Peter Jackson cast N'Sych as hobbits and they appeared in Hobbiton? You're goddam right we would. This just goes to show you that Lucas really does have his head up his ass. This is absolutely ridiculous! This will date the movie something awful. So much for Galaxy Far Far Away. Goodbye Star Wars. May The Force Be With You. Harry I'm lookig forward to your review in the spring where you tear this trash a whole new asshole.
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once i said lucas was just a suit, that star wars had just become a big commercial for him, that all he cared about were the toys and the products and the money he made from it. once he was a budding film maker, with some great ideas for movie making that needed to be honed. but then he got a big movie out. and stopped making movies. he produced them, but never directed again. until phantom menace. lucas is outta practice. his vision has changed. we're arent seeing the star wars the way he originally saw it in his head. we're seeing the new version. the i want kids to love me for no real reason version. hence there was jar jar, for the kids. and the bad acting, so the kids wouldnt get lost in emotion and wouldnt not understand something. and now nsync. and oh, to the guy who wont believe it till he see's it on theforce.net, they too reported this story, a week or so ago, actually maybe a couple weeks ago. they got it from what was supposedly an inside source. and to you who say, so what, they may just be an easter egg like the et's. ofcourse we'll be able to see them if theyre in it. why else would you put a popular boy band in it, unless you wanted them to be seen. et was a kinda inside joke, like the tennis shoe in return. but having a boy band appear in star wars, because his kids wanted them in the movie. talk about selling out. but then again, thats lucas. in the dictionary, when it says sell out there is a picture of georgy right next to it. lucas has done nothing but destroy everything about the originals we all love. the sense of adventure and danger. the characters, or well, the fact that the characters in the film and character, or personality, instead of "couldve been done by anyone". and heres a thought. for all those that say star wars is aimed for kids and always was(which is a lie) why is it that the originals are more grown up, then the ones about the rise and fall of darth vader? shouldnt vaders story be a little more grown up. but no. the story of vader is light harted and unthreatening. the original trilogy will live on. this new shit is dead. and he just keeps beating the horse.
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Neo, I think it's safe to stop hiding under the desk now. They're not even paying attention anymore. Well, this has been great, fellas (that's not sexist, just true). We've heard all forms of 'logic', no matter how twisted or how significantly spun for the purpose of further instigating frothing fanboys. These TalkBacks were made for Talkin', and that's what we're gonna do...I still can't get over how nothing has ever or will ever get resolved on the most fundamental levels here. It's not about differences of opinion. It's about hypocrites and those who must tell others to "Get a Life!" This is AICN, after all. No one said that having a "life" was a prerequisite. Sure it's a cameo, but it touched a nerve, didn't it? Listen to your fucking heart once in awhile? Does this sort of thing 'feel' right? No. Are most of us bellyaching waaaay too fucking much? Yeah. But this is an unholy matrimony in the Church of Pop Culture and this is one wedding where the ring is far removed and held in contempt by some. Hey hypocrites! This is the shit that this site is founded on. Sure, there will be hundreds of 'legit' and 'serious' talkbacks, but boy, if this one isn't the ultimate cyberpunching bag. I can respect everyone in here except those whose insist on correlating overt concern with serious deficiencies. A.)that's obvious and B.) it's not NECESSARILY true. We just don't get the opportunity to go off on such an easy target that often. And, hey, Captain Condescending! Everyone KNOWS that this is all about a literal second or two of a film. It's just that surreal. Look, it's like when your favorite baseball team trades a Hall of Famer for a handful of adequate players (Robertoalomarhackcough!) You're incredulous, you're livid, you vent, but at the end of the day, you always go back to bitching about the same team with different problems. And this is like when the White Sox had that midget pinch hit once. It meant nothing, amounted to a walk, but baseball enthusiasts are still talking about it to this day. Unfortunately, I don't think Lucas is doing this for zany humor. Again, I don't think that this will sink the film. I think many other things will conspire to do that, without any assistance from a handful of spiky-haired "Jedi" with shit-eating grins. But hey, if ya can't geek out here, then where. Those of you who don't recognize this for the sort of forum that it is need to either leave or get blown up yourselves. Really, now, who has less of a sense of humor? The whining fool, or the fool that whines about him?
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king george has a message for his minions ....
drop to your knees .....
open your mouth .....
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Jan 03, 2002 3:03:54 AM CST
So long as they all get killed off in the most disgusting, gory,
by kingkrypton
In fact, in addition to N Sync, here are some more acts who should get iced in the STAR WARS films: 98 Degrees, Youngstown, the Spice Girls, Dream, M2M, 3LW, PYT, Innosence, Hanson, Steps, A*Teens, Nobody
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LOOK AT THE TRAILER PEOPLE. LOOK AT N'SYCH. DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT GEORGE LUCAS IS GOING TO MAKE ANOTHER STAR WARS or EMPIRE? DO YOU FOR ONE MOMENT BELIEVE THAT HE WILL HAVE THOSE N'SYNCH BOYS DIE A VIOLENT DEATH!????!!? IT IS OVER.
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I saw FELLOWSHIP for the 8th time on Friday (oh, and by the way BITCHES, still #1, stomping its way to TPM) and you know, they showed the Saved By The Bell TPM II trailer -- it's a new one. How new? Oh, just the music, BITCH. Yeah, they play TAPS over it now.
IT IS FINISHED. LOL...Face it bitches, it is OVER. Boy Bands, the 90210 Trailer - Lucas has popped countless caps into his own ass -- IT IS OVER, STAR WARS IS DEAD. Yes, bitches, you may see it like you may take your kid sister to Pokemon, but PLEASE, do not consider it part of OUR films, such as FELLOWSHIP. I want to thank GENERAL JACKSON for being here. -
Jan 03, 2002 3:29:36 AM CST
after a spectacular film like LOTR, Lucas should do humanity a f
by mooncake
it's so sad to see one of the greatest film franchises in history to be *ssraped like this! how can Lucas drop to such a low level? thank god we have peter jackson now!
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sO hOW lONg Do yOU fAGS WaiT to tAkE dOwN ThE ChRisTmAs TrEE?
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i wished extreme badness on the sabrebutts that polluted the LOTR talkbacks. sometimes even excruciating pain ... but there is no way, not even in my most depraved moment, i could have ever conceived a torment that so perfectly fit the crime of blind stupidity of which georgie's followers are so obviously guilty.
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What's next? Jar Jar imitating the Backstreet Boys? George, how low can you go? This is just awful. I had such high hopes for Episode II and now, within seconds, all hope is gone. Vanished forever.
George, this is just a joke. Right?
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Jan 03, 2002 4:07:02 AM CST
BUTT BACKENDER bends Lucas over and REAMS HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by jaxx man
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's what would serve justice!!!!!!!!!! http://www.geocities.com/buttbackender/ButtBackender.html TAKE NOTE!!! POST A STORY LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jan 03, 2002 4:09:39 AM CST
then BUTT BACKENDER turns around and REAM Lucas' daughters!!
by jaxx man
GO BUTT, GO! GO, BUTT, GO!!!
GO BUTT, GO! GO, BUTT, GO!!!
GO BUTT, GO! GO, BUTT, GO!!!
GO BUTT, GO! GO, BUTT, GO!!!
GO BUTT, GO! GO, BUTT, GO!!!
GO BUTT, GO! GO, BUTT, GO!!!
GO BUTT, GO! GO, BUTT, GO!!!
GO BUTT, GO! GO, BUTT, GO!!!
GO BUTT, GO! GO, BUTT, GO!!! -
Jan 03, 2002 4:11:07 AM CST
and THEN....BUTT BACKENDER REAMS Baby Fett, Baby Greedo AND TH
by jaxx man
BUTT....BUTT
BACKENDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -
Jan 03, 2002 4:13:02 AM CST
the name is BACKENDER......BUTT BACKENDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by jaxx man
plus, a top fashion consultant...
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Jan 03, 2002 4:58:00 AM CST
BACKSTREET BOYS to make a surprise cameo as Orcs in THE TWO TOWE
by psyclops
Hmmm... perhaps this will all turn out to be a bad dream. Who knows? If we get to see them die, maybe it won't be such a bad thing!
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Jan 03, 2002 6:41:58 AM CST
...And a shudder was felt throughout the kingdom as the skies be
by psyclops
George Lucas was once a talented director with a promising future. What began as an epic journey in a galaxy far, far away has become a mulitmillion dollar toy commercial, an expensive Pepsi ad campaign and yet another opportunity for Kenner to waste 10,000 tons of plastic to create action figures that will eventually find their way to the bottom of the discount bins at TOYS R' US. The dream is dead. Actually, it's worse than dead... it's been beaten within an inch of it's life and coated with some sugary substance to be made digestable for 14 year old girls. Some of you may think that Lucas casting a popular 'boy band' in his latest creation is not that big of a deal. Well,... I'm afraid I don't agree with you there. This is the beginning of the end. When will he stop himself? How far is he willing to go to broaden his audience? This goes for Spielberg as well (I'd hate to see what parts of SAVING PRIVATE RYAN will be redubbed and edited so as not to offend his grandchildren in twenty years). These were men of great talent and now they have fallen way below their potential. Hey George, while you're at it... why not cast Carson Daly as Boba Fett in EPISODE III? Oh,... and don't get me started on N'SYNC. They are not actors, they do not act, they sing... and not very well.
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I'm off to seduce GL's daughter...
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there is a drug dealer in the new star wars bar scene... his name, i shit you not, is "Elian Sleazebaggano" ..sigh...
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Really, people, you're complaining over absolutely NOTHING! So, N'SYNC will make a SPLIT SECOND cameo in AOTC. So what? Who the hell cares?! It takes exactly ZERO acting ability to play a background extra. Plus, they're going be killed off by the battle droids, anyway. So, what's the big deal? Answer: there is no big deal. You fanatics need to calm the hell down and worry about something more important then who's going to appear for half-a-second in a scene with hundreds of extras.
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This whole thing about NSYNC has been taken out of context. First off let me say that I hate these cock suckers, they have no business even being considered for a role in a movie like this. They are lame entertainers, stupid looking, and I could kick all of their asses myself. That being said, I saw on MANY other sites the past few weeks that they are only going to have small roles as Jedi's in the arena scene. And in the arena scene they will be far off in the distance (in the stands) during shots of Anakin and Obi-Wan on the floor of the arena. So that being said I wish people would report the real news rather than twisting it around, but as one person above me already wrote 'I'll belive it when its on the Force.Net.'
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Who's paying you guys to say this shit? So what if it's only for a couple seconds, let's go back and look at the true fact: 'N SYNC IS IN STAR WARS. If you guys were real Star Wars fans you'd know why this is so outrageous. Star Wars and boy bands should never mix, everybody knows that. The reason the original Star Wars was so good is because they knew how to make movies then. If they didn't, the Bee Gees would appear in the background, and the Star Wars Trilogy would never get off the ground. Star Wars and boy bands are like pizza and chocolate sauce. Sure, they may taste good by themselves, but DON'T mix them together! How would you LOTR fans feel if the Backstreet Boys popped up in the background? How would you feel if the theatre that's supposed to be full of die-hard LOTR fans like yourselves is now full of swooning teenage girls? I am seriously thinking of not seeing this movie, not just because of 'N Sync, but because of the terrible title and the weak plot. My goal was to be first in line for the next Star Wars movie, but maybe I'll change my goal to exercizing more instead.
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Jan 03, 2002 8:17:22 AM CST
THE EPIC BATTLE OF 2001 - GEEKS VS. AIRHEADS - COMING TO A THEAT
by oatu
Because of this idiotic move, it will be a grand cross-cultural summit of idiotic teenybopper airheads and film geeks which will degenerate into name-calling, popcorn-throwing conflicts in theatres across the country... that's what this will become... ready your verbal repartee, my friends, the storm is coming... a kind of cultural World War III, as we settle once and for all where the culture of this country is headed, whether we keep pandering in movies, music, etc. to the MTV youth culture or whether we renounce it once and for all and start making QUALITY films and music...
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Make your choice now.
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Jan 03, 2002 8:20:49 AM CST
N'Sync are just a rip off of Obi-Wan in Spice World: The Mov
by spacepervert
So, um, this story is in the Sun. Well known for their integrity and respect for the truth. This is about as likely as the Celine Dion rumour. Show me the press release from Lucasfilm or the record company.
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Listen, this movie might not be a pile of shit. Just probably. OK definitely. Face it George, you hairy old lame brain, the games up and Jackson's wupped your ass.
The King is Dead etc...
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Man, I wish there was a font or graphic thingy that unambigously, with absolute clarity and with no questions asked said to the reader... I TOLD YOU SO..!
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....There are some wierdos out tonight!
I bet none of you are over 14. or where anything but black.
UKS
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...WTF has LOTR got to do with this TB? Some people seem to think the best way to defend SW/GL is to attack LOTR/PJ! I'm sorry, but I don't see how bashing LOTR makes SW greater, or vice versa. Secondly, it isn't the fact that n'sync are going to be in the background for a split second of film, that nobody will notice, that has us so disappointed. It's that GL has allowed this to happen is what's so disappointing. I ask you, how many serious directors, making serious films, would allow a here today/gone tomorrow boy band cameo in their film? What is GL's motivation in doing this? The only sort of films I can think of that would sanction such a cameo would be a film aimed at the early teen demographic or a film that needs all the publicity it can get (ie, a very bad one). The original SW trilogy was such a brilliant set of films that appealed to such a wide audience, that's why it's so disappointing that GL abandoned his winning formula with TPM. And now, with news like this, it suggests TPM wasn't a mere aberration, as most of us hoped. Of course I'll reserve final judgement until I've seen it, but the signs so far have been very ominous.
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Not that I am in any way in favour of this little development, but the way I see it, there are two ways this could end. One, this is a rumour encouraged by Lucasfilm to agitate us TalkBackers. (Would Lucasfilm do that?! Um, yes...) Two, the band will be in the film, relegated to the background, likely in heavy alien makeup, or even relegated to "Easter Egg" status along with the potatoes and ET's of the previous SW films. This would be annoying, yes, but not tragic!
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That is the dumbest name I have ever heard.
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"It's DEAD... Jim"
Time for all you geekboys to A) Get a job. B) Move out of your mom's basement. C) Unload all your Star Wars collectible on Ebay, and... D) Go on a friggin' diet, geez, you're disgustingly huge!
It is over! Get used to it. Like Saturn devouring his own children, the bearded, man-boobed, devolved former genius one has destroyed his own creation. I will not be attending any further installments of this pathetic spectacle no lend it anything more than my disgusted derision. It's over! Star Wars SUCKS! -
LOTR equals ownzorz bitch!
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I so raped that little slut
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Is a bloated fucktard!
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Can wipe Peter Jackson's ass!
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Wants all you fans to suck his fat bloated ass.
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Wants all you fans to suck his fat bloated ass.
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Is for fucktards who wish to suck it down hard on Lucas cock.
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Oh fuck me, who cares anymore. Later Star Wars losers.
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O.k not only is lucas a money hungry bitch but he's a sell out too. Let me demonstrate. He has in the past rereleased all the remastered,new footage and limited vhs but he's gonna do the same crap with the dvds $$$$$$. Same with all the future movies and now he's gonna roll in the cash for putting the backdoor boys in another crappy installment so all the teenie boppers will throw down $$$$$. You never saw Capt. Kirk riding shotgun with New dorks on the block!!!
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You got me running
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You've got me searching. Sigh!ILM3looks at the hatred and btterness oozing from the LOTR clones and sadly wonders at their teenage girl-like nano-second attention spans and short-lived memories knowing these were thevery ones praising you to the skies not so long ago, George, perched on the edge of their cans as the Falcon weavedpast the imperial destroyers and hid in the asteroid field. Gaping in adolescent lust at Leia's FIRM BAZOOKAS and rejoicing when Han blasted Gredo into next year. Some of us haven't forgotten, G-man. Bring on those happy Backdoor Boys -- just keep the mincing, lisping, tights-wearing elves out of it and I'll be happy. You're all class Cox, bet your girlfriend's pretty. What, no lovely to squeeze? Maybe that foul mind of yours is one of the reasons you have to constantly choke the one-eyed Chinaman in the can with last year's sticky SI swimsuit edition. -
Ha! I knew it! The Emperor plans to off the Jedi with..... a live NSYNC performance! Oh, the agony! Darth Maul had a kinder death! Lucas obviously saw what a Blockbuster Lance Bass's movie was and said to himself, "George my boy, I'll bet I can get a piece of Brittany's sweet lovin if I put her Bo and his friends in my movie.... Heck I might consider raping a legendary series for some of that, I changed my mind, You Go boy!
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"all of us SW fans that number in the millions" - Switch to Crack Ultralite, or at least get your dealer to stop putting DrainO in your Cocaine. Millions of children perhaps, but only until they grow up and develop real taste.
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To be honest, I quite like the idea of N'Synch getting splatted by killer androids. I'd pay money to see that.
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it's JAR JAR JAR. This is why 10 years from now LOTR will rule this now pathetic piece of crap for a series of films. Save episode III and sign my petition.
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Jan 03, 2002 9:37:36 AM CST
Yes, it is true - London Newspaper did a short bit on it today s
by methestel
Ha Ha Ha... well, I guess that's it then.
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It makes sense, doesn't it? Lucas has been kidnapped (along with Steven Speilburg) and been replaced with a mass marketing machine incapable of taking risks for fear that they may affect proffit. In fact, that is the name of the machine model, the Proffit 9000. This is hilarious and very sad at the same time.
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Is there 1 person here who DOES want Nsync in this movie? Why cant Lucas get the point.
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I've tried to believe that George Lucas always knew what he was doing even though some of his decisions are utterly retarded. Now I know for sure he has totally checked out. He has just pissed on his fanbase.
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The Sun is not the most reliable newspaper in the world. It is, for lack of more graceful language, a fucking tabloid. Even if it is true, then Lucas is doing us a huge favor by simply killing the bastards off rather quickly after they show up.
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Phantom Menace sucked so much and this one is next. Lucas should make another small movie like American Graffiti to get his head out of his ass.
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Maybe (hopefully) the girly boys will be in makeup as aliens (but I doubt it)!
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I, like most posters, feel this is an unncessary detractor from the film. It would be very much like putting the Bee Gees in the the early SW films. It doesn't really matter if they are "killed" off in a crowd scene...it is just a distraction. I don't really know what motivates Lucas anymore. From the lame "Attack of the Clones" title to pop culture fluff (insert boy band)...it really does take away from the SW legacy (ironicly SW itself might be considered pop culter fluff by some.) Actually, I shouldn't be that surprised. I was pretty disapointed in the PM. There were just too many moments that made me cringe...from the annoying kid, to the unfunny and idiotic Jar Jar, to the two headed ESPN announcer...it just seemed like Lucas had lost touch. I expected these newer films to be darker...considering the subject matter, but certainly taken more seriously by its creator. The guy needs to let others direct and be involved in the script writing. He is a great idea man; he just doesn't seem to be all that good at the complete follow through. Oh well, they are his films...and he pretty much does what he wants to do despite the fan outcry.
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Palpatine: The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire. Yoda: Put your hands up in the air, put your hands UP IN THE AIR. If this is true then I'm embarrassed for Star Wars and its loyal, long-suffering fan-base. My cheeks are actually red with embarrassment for them. They will never live this down. I FEEL THEIR PAIN! But this clearly explains who's been advising Lucas all along -- his daughter(s). 'Daddy, I like JarJar, he makes me laugh. I'm going to hug him and squeezehim. And those funny wobots.'
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Jan 03, 2002 10:16:32 AM CST
This puts it in perspective, I think (quoted from Dark Horizons)
by lobanhaki
Star Wars: Episode II: News to scare you - N'Sync in "Star Wars"? It may happen. Both Nsync-land.com and Prequel-Spoilers report that Justin, JC and the other boys are rumoured to be playing Jedi Knights in the very distant background of the arena battle in the scenes set on Geonosis. They'll be amongst hundreds of Jedi Knights in the scene thus will be lucky to get a blurry half-second background shot in the large scale battle scene. Hmmm, wonder if it'll be a short but gruesome on-screen death? Thanks to 'Shazam' and 'Porter Beyond 2000'.
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there is a drug dealer in the new star wars bar scene... his name, i shit you not, is "Elian Sleazebaggano"!!! are you catching this? ..sigh...
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oh, c'mon.
we all know the reason he's adding NStink to the film is to guarantee his opening box office. since EP1 sucked, and his loyal fans are now questioning him, he's going to bring in another fan base to hedge his bets.
if he really wanted to win, he should've put britney spears in one of them metal bikinis.
yum
--mego spidey say booya!
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Jan 03, 2002 10:22:44 AM CST
Hey! So the scenes featuring NSYNC are not made yet?????????????
by burp fartman
Oh! And LOTR trolls can kiss my sorry ass! Thanks!!!!
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Jan 03, 2002 10:31:23 AM CST
Star Wars will go the way of the HIGHLANDER-Franchise...
by blake falls
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This is really unbelievable. Why is this so terrible? Are you afraid that someone other than SWsuperfan will go see the movie so you can no longer be elitist? Ultimately aren't all of these movies about ENTERTAINMENT? Two guys in the background with no speaking parts getting killed. Is this worse than Samuel Jackson begging for a part? Or is it simply that you cannot have any cross culture in your movies? I'm sure no one wants to take away your Geek Crowns, so relax.
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Obviously GL thinks he'll succeed where Pearl Harbor failed, as in to re-create the box office bonanza that was "Titanic". Hence, the love story. Hence, the 'NSYNC debacle.
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jollydwarf, Do you really think it was cool to post this?
>>GRANTED, I WAS NOT THE FIRST TO POST THIS ON AICN, BUT WHAT DID WE/I TELL YOU?! All because of Lucas' fatass daughter who probably had Hayden do a couple Jedi Tongue tricks on her to get the role! Again, I don't care if O.J. is on the screen for one second (Although Orith Maul would be funny), but Jesus Christ, what is he trying to do?! I've all but bailed for Lord of the Rings now. Ep II may still rock, but he keeps testing us...P.S. BIG shrill screams for N'Back, muted smattering of "Yeahs" for Star Wars on TRL. Here we go again<<
The girl is fourteen or something, and does not deserve to be slandered in the sickening way you have.
It's people like you who are killing fandom. NO, not because I disagree with your opinion, but because whenever there's a chance to have an good debate over the merits (or lack thereof) of a work of film, you start calling names. I liked TPM, sure, but I realize it had flaws, and I'm willing to listen to anyone who has rational points to make about it.
Fandom, in general, used to bring people together. Now people like you want to build walls, create factions. Why? Because you feel insecure if people don't agree with you? Is that it? Is that why you have to talk trash?
I hope you open your door tomarrow and find Jay and SIlent Bob waiting for you.
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(Loud applause can be heard from the audience.) ***** Well said, indeed. **** It's easy for some to see this as a boiling down to a simple cause or reason and then using that sole idea as an excuse to heap disdain on people. One thing is obvious here, the people who are bothered and who are not bothered come from both sides of this who SWGeek or not thing. Some here want to heap crap on people bothered by it by assuming they are losers, but yet many, like myself are fans but not that avid of fans. And I am still bothered by it. Not a geek. Get laid regularly. Not a purist. I just enjoy good movies. ***** Cameo or not... half second or not... a climactic final scene... an epic battle of jedi armies has sadly become "The Scene Where We Will All Look For N'Sync"... and THAT's where the tragedy lies, people. ***** Now excuse me while I finish wading through the rest of this talkback... surely, Mercier is buried in here somewhere....
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If this was never released to the public, but occurred anyway, not one of us would be able pick them out. Sure, at first the concept sounds a bit nonsensical, but it really makes no difference. If we knew how many queers made cameos/extras in our favorite movies, we'd shit fire. I can guarantee you all that at least one person you loathe in Hollywood has made an appearance in a favorite movie of yours that you don't even know about. So let's fuck the whole issue, jesus. And Harry, you should have thought a little about posting this stuff, but I am sure you realize this will not affect the movie one iota. Plus, who the hell is Lucas selling out to?! The man has more money himself than most studios and owns every bit of production effort that is going into this film. You could say Lucas was selling out if he sacraficed creative aspects of the film or abandoned his goals for those of the studios, but kids, he IS the studio, he makes the decisions from the creative to the financial. Christ, we all need to quit basing our opinions on our own vision of the outcome and start implementing some objective thought. I know I'm guilty. Okay, enough preaching, on with the knee-jerk reactionary criticism: "George you marketing slut!"
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Even if NSync, the boy band for girls, is only in the movie for a Second will you still get their action figures?? There will be NSync action figures!!! I'll stick to my LOTR action figures thank you. http://www.petitiononline.com/dgkomxpq/petition.html
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So is this the state of genre-fans? You must profanely insult, threaten, and bash GL when you hear something that will "ruin" a movie? Then some of you "threaten" to not see Ep 2? Whatever. You'll see it. Oh, you might not tell anyone, but you'll go.
Besides, GL doesn't need your money, so I DARE you NOT to see it, NOT to rent it, NOT to buy it, and NOT to see the network release on TV...you'll see it. You'll gripe about some of it, but you'll be there, forking over your 10 bucks. But if you want to bash, threaten, and profane GL, can't you take it somewhere else?
He's not making the movie for you. He's making it for himself, in order to complete his Campbellian/Eastern good-and-evil-is-all-one mythology. And if he happens to rate his daughter's opinion over yours, then so much the better for him. Once YOU make a blockbuster on limited funds, then YOU can create your own mythology the way YOU like it.
SW2 will have amazing lightsaber choreography, with a blazing, (if overbearing) score beneath it, incredible special effects, and maybe some Obi-wan (my fav) character development, and that's reason enough for me to see it. I can ignore the Jar Jar's, the philosophy, and the boy bands. I just hope you aren -
at least they won't be singing during the movie....I'm trying to be a "glass is half-full" gal.....
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This is the most disgusting display of hatred in the history of AICN. I try not to cuss in my posts but grow the fuck up people. Lucas did not rape your childhood, he did not sell out, and he is not deserving of the acts of violence people apparently want to carry out on him. He put his daughter's favourite band in as EXTRAS and they get killed, end of story. Big fucking hairy deal. Do you act like this on the street when you hear bad news, do you threaten people with disembowling? I don't think so! So why bring your disgusting diatribe about what you'd like to do to Lucas in here? Because it's safe, because you are annonymous? That's childish and it's that sort of attitude that has made AICN talkbacks the jokes of other message boards. Jesus Christ, people!
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This is the most disgusting display of hatred in the history of AICN. I try not to cuss in my posts but grow the fuck up people. Lucas did not rape your childhood, he did not sell out, and he is not deserving of the acts of violence people apparently want to carry out on him. He put his daughter's favourite band in as EXTRAS and they get killed, end of story. Big fucking hairy deal. Do you act like this on the street when you hear bad news, do you threaten people with disembowling? I don't think so! So why bring your disgusting diatribe about what you'd like to do to Lucas in here? Because it's safe, because you are annonymous? That's childish and it's that sort of attitude that has made AICN talkbacks the jokes of other message boards. Jesus Christ, people!
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Jan 03, 2002 11:22:37 AM CST
Hahahahahaha You Lucas butt bitches are amusing. You losers must
by hugh g cox
Old senile George Mucus isn't even deserving of wiping that great man's ass.
LOTR equalz own0rz bitch! Suck it! 'Cause that's some tasty shit! -
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Why oh why is Lucas so influenced by his daughter? Come on George, love can only make someone do so much! Inside sources have given me these two possible origins for JarJar:
Veruca: "Daddy, Daddy! I want you to make me a really fake, non funny, ugly rabbit looking thing. Put him in the movie for me.Oh, and here is a great idea! Make him talk like a really bad imitation of Bob Marley!"
George Lucas: Honey that would just be stupid.
Veruca: (While wailing in tears) I want you to do it now!!! I want a CGI character now daddy!!!
GL: Whatever you say pumpkin!
and:
Veruca: I want a hip-jive-talking alien that looks like a disturbed space penis, and I want one in the movie NOW!
Ugh!
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I defy any star wars fans left standing after Jar-Jar to defend this. To say this doesn't matter is insane. This is like the atomic bomb of stupid movie decisions. Star Wars, RIP. SPECIAL NOTE TO HOLLYWOOD: So much money, so little talent. Please hire me. I have no experience, but am sure I can exceed your current standards.
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Maybe my lack of credentials as a Star Wars Geek is showing, but was Chewie REALLY on Frosted Flakes?
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Jan 03, 2002 11:47:01 AM CST
At least Richard Greeko, Corey Haim and Scott Bayo arn't in
by darth ranik
God wouldn't that suck? Ah, if we could only time travel back to the George we had while TESB was just being finished, wipe out the existence of the last two films and just start freash from TESB. Anyone who says Star Wars has always been just a kids film wasn't alive back in 1977. ANH and TESB were in some ways like LOTR, in that they were something for all ages really. Star Wars and TESB were movies that a 12 year old kid would just be mesmerized by while sitting in the theater next to his mesmerized parents. From ROTJ to TPM most adults I've talked to just think of them as kiddie films and rightly so. The tone of the last two films is definitly more childish in nature, what with the Ewoks and Sy Snoodles, Jar Jar, etc... The last two movies are vastly different from the first two...anyone who doesn't see that is just hopeless, and no amount of explaination and specific examples will show them the light. George Lucas has changed, and his films have changed and the Star Wars saga over the last two films has de-evolved to the level of entertainment for 5 yr olds.
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Jan 03, 2002 11:49:46 AM CST
"Daddy would you like some sausage, daddy would you like some sa
by hugh g cox
I feel sorry for you Star Wars fanboys! Suck it!
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The biggest movie of 2002 will be: SPIDER-MAN! But say hi to Justin for me, Georgie! He's soooo dreamy!
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is that NONE of the people you mentioned are stage performers or even singers, but at the very least actors. Try a little harder you can come up with something to shock not just us, but yourself as well.
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Jan 03, 2002 11:52:13 AM CST
That tasty bitch Britney Spears should star in EP III. Watching
by hugh g cox
Suck it!
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you need to move ahead by about 20 years or so to see how much expectations have grown by everyone, geeks and not. You're coming from the other side of the line which might respect the original trilogy just as much as the other fan group. Be positive, that's good. Even if this isn't the old trilogy style, there could have been a little more respect for the business. Think of any Quentin Tarantino flick with a Britney Spears gangster cameo. Takes away from it just a *little* bit, eh? Sure you get used to it after a day or week or whatever, but you'll know it's there.
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Jan 03, 2002 11:59:23 AM CST
Wait, they're not singing so what the fuck is the uproar? Ho
by matrix_sux
Christ, I hate them as much as the next guy but as someone just said, "What the fuck do they look like?" I haven't a clue so where is the distraction?
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Hell, Liv Tyler was in LOTR and was good in it, even after folks bitched, BTW
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Get a grip folks. Who cares who he uses as extras in his film? Should NSYNC be disallowed from being extras becuase they sing music that targets a young demographic?
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I was around '77, saw ANH in the theater. And yes, the original Star Wars movies were for kids. But I mean that in the best possible way. They were unsophistocated, simplistic, yet pure. They took themselves seriously, didn't have flagrant in-jokes or potty humor. The heroes didn't accidentally stumble into victory (with the much lamentable exception of the demise of Boba Fett from Han bumping into him), they earned it - either with their wits, or their surrender of their sensory awareness to their inner awareness (the Force). Even when they indulged in whimsy, they didn't talk down to their audience. And I liked Ewoks - like Hobbits, they are quileless innocents, and hence foil evil's capacity to prognosticate because they defy even good's desire for domination; they could have been better visualized, but I don't hold the hatred most have for 'em. The early movies, even with the blemishes in Jedi, are good in the way The Hobbit was good - children's literature in the purest most complimentary sense.
Star Wars went wrong when characters began to stumble into victory (oh, yippie, I accidentally blew up the space station), involved reams of self-referential, contemporary, and scatalogical material. Even the "jesters" of the original series, R3 and 3PO, weren't slapstick buffoons like Jar Jar.
So yes, the original movies were Children's movies. Good children's movies. The canonical popcorn dumb fun flick you watch over and over again. But they were never "great" movies.
TPM (and from the trailers for AOTC, it looks like the trend continues) represent the worst in Children's entertainment. The story is simplistic and confused, the heroes bumbling or whiny, the grown-ups mean for the sake of being mean (poor Annie! Look how the Jedi council mistreats him! He'll get them!). The back story is poorly thought out. Scatology, in-jokes (the two-headed sports announcer? How pathetic!). The thrills no longer advance the plot; they exist to generate motion sickness and nothing more (the useless pod race). The consequences of violence are downplayed, to make it "safe" for kiddies. Heroes are always reactionary when it comes to violence, they never initiate it (Greedo shooting first).
Star Wars had its place - it *was* kid's storytelling, and we were kids when it came out. They were greatest common factor kid's movies, to coin a term. That's why we're so upset that it's turning into the worst of Saturday Morning cartoons, with poop-and-fart-and-ethnic jokes thrown in for the lowest common denominator. -
...if this is true. i absolutely can't imagine that it is. i really can't. sinking to this level is incomperable. there is NO WAY. However, if it is true. Fuck episode 2. i won't see it. ever. really. im not kidding. there's not a whole lot out there that you could do to stop me from seeing this film...BUT undoubtedly stop me. sacrilidge.
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I mean it, as a die hard Star Wars fan, I love casting NSync as extras. I mean really, it pisses off the fickle fanboys, and anything that does so pleases me, because fanboys can't be pleased anyway. Second, I get to see a boy band get KILLED! Wonderful! I mean, they're going to be on the screen for but a couple of seconds, and then they get filleted. Onscreen. What's the problem? I bet if no one had mentioned that they were in the film then none of these fanboys would have even noticed. You bitches are crying about the casting of EXTRAS, for fuck sake! EXTRAS! You're bitching because you don't like who Lucas cast as "Third Dying Jedi from the Left." And I laugh at you. And Nordling, even if KC & the SUNSHINE BAND were cast in Empire, I bet dollars to donuts you wouldn't even know. It's not like they're going to sing. It's not like they're going to dance. They're going to show up in full costume, looking like everybody else, and be used simply as a bullet stopper. I mean, supposedly Cliff from Cheers is in that exact same scene in Empire that Nord mentioned, but to this day after having seen Empire hundreds of times, I still can't pick him out. BECAUSE HES JUST AN EXTRA. Seriously, you people need to find something important to bitch about.
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Jan 03, 2002 12:20:52 PM CST
I thought this was laughable when I heard it at first, but...
by wardog
If Lucas can't stand up to his pleading daughters, then he'd damned well better learn soon, or they will run and ruin his life in the years to come. But Harry has a point....maybe they'll all die horrible, messy (even if heroic--ah, who cares?) DEATHS. Then again, I suppose there will need to be camera shots where we can see and easily recognize their faces as they're fighting and dying. Maybe Jar-Jar will die along with them. That'd be COOL!
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Jan 03, 2002 12:21:10 PM CST
About half of the SW-philes of old school won't even recogni
by terry_1978
So what the hell is the problem? The only ones that'll know who they are are people born around 1970 and after, and even then they will probably have just as much screen time as any of the other hundreds of extras that Lucas will have. I'm not fans of theirs, per se, so it's not even bothering me at all.
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This is a sad day. A sad day indeed.
HuggyBear --
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Lucas fucking his sons (the fans)
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Personally this is the last straw, the despressing thing is alot of people will still go see Episode 2 and it doesn't deserve it. Not now. Not after Jar Jar Syncs and N'Binks, This is horrendous. I though that we finally had a movie with Boba Fetts origin and a basis for a Fett filled movie. Now Lucas has let this become complete shit. FUCK STAR WARS, FUCK GEORGE LUCAS, FUCK N'SYNC, FUCK LUCAS FILM, FUCK YOU ALL WHO WILL LINE UP TO SEE IT, THis piece of shit doesn't deserve the time of day. And Believe you me, if Spider-Man bombs, because of this pile of monkey shit thats coming out I will PERSONALLY BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF LUCAS myself. Fire will rain from the heavens. This movie doesn't need my hard earned money or my time. It definately doesn't deserve my time to stand in line for tickets, let alone the film itself. BULLSHIT! BULLSHIT! MUTHER FUCKING BULLSHIT!
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Jan 03, 2002 12:35:16 PM CST
To all you Star Wars haters and dissenters. I will kill you. I w
by starwarsfanone
and frying your fat. All you fuckers don't deserve to live anyway. Time to die and squeal like a pig! George Lucas is God almighty, motherfuckers. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Yes, I suppose NSYNC in AOTC may be a problem, but probably no more than in TESB: "Say, isn't that Cliff Claven (John Ratzenberger)?"
Yes, even great authors don't mind listening to their audiences. I read an article recently that said that Tolkien inserted the character Eowyn (in The Two Towers and The Return of the King) out of pressure from his daughter to add a strong female character.
But then Tolkien was not writing for fanboys-- if anything, he put his family first in his storytelling efforts. I think Lucas and Spielberg have gone through a similar process (Greedo shoots first-- an explanation that might please a 5-year old, but probably no one else).
However, the best storytellers don't try to hide the darker elements-- it's important to show scary elements, and show characters dealing with their fears in a realistic way. I've heard J.K. Rowling say the same thing-- it's important not to hide darker elements, and apparently the next Harry Potter books will be even darker, with more deaths.
So the challenge for AOTC is to make sure additions like NSYNC are trivial like Cliff Claven. Otherwise, any moral authority in the story will be lost. Tolkien may have introduced Eowyn and Jackson may have expanded Arwen, but there is a weight to their roles and the decisions they make that isn't papered over in phoniness (did I say Greedo shot first?)
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this is what you get for loving crap like Star Wars.
thank you George Lucas!
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Who really cares if AOTC is good or not? This has been more entertaining than a movie ever could be. MUWHAHAHAHA! They had to shut down the debate at theforce.net because people were making death threats. DEATH THREATS!!!!!!?????? Hilarious! And yet, what is almost as funny, is the fact that there are still people out there that are trying their hardest to find ways to defend N'Sync in a Star Wars movie. The movie may still be good, but it will never be as entertaining as this Talkback. Thank you Harry, you've made my day!
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The only good thing about this is watching the so-called 'true fans' (you know, the ones who claim TPM is every bit as good as the originals) wiggle their way out of this one, telling us how "it's really not that bad..." (like they tried with the midiclorian debacle). Still, as a fan since the old days, I can't help but feel saddened by this: yet another blow to what was once the saga that cinema was all about. Oh well, the originals will live on.
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But I am done. I'm not going to burn my collection, but I'm done buying any Star Wars related material other than the DVDs. I know nobody knows who I am, and nobody cares, but I will not feed Lucas's Machine any longer. When I was young I believed he was a rouge moviemaker, uninfluenced by Hollywood and relentlessly sticking to his own vision. Now, there is no more perfect way of saying that the above is completely false and that the old republic has rotted from the inside. There is nothing more Hollywood right now than N'SYNC. I know it's just a little part. I know I probably won't see them. I know, I know. But it is a signal. It is a symptom of complacency and carelessness that has consumed the vision of LFL. George Lucas is dead. So is my support.
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i cant believe that there are people out there who would disappoint their little children with an action figure of an homosexual elf (i think he is an elf, isnt he? sorry, but i fell asleep for a while because the movie was long and boring. but he is homosexual, thats for sure) in tights. could you really do that vaan, making a little child cry with disappointment? you are really heartless. this is a star wars talkback , so its not a place for lotr fanatics who claim that they have seen this movie 34 times already and are proud to tell us that it is getting better with each viewing, it doesnt get better, its not even good, so it can not get better. its a mediocre little movie (altough fun at times). i dont think that the nsync appearance affects the new SW movie as a whole, its just a little gag, definitely not cool news but we have to live with it.i dont think that AOTC will be a masterpiece, but it has a good chance to become the 3rd best SW flick behind ANH and ESB. and to these few lotr fanatics: you will get your new lotr talkback soon i am sure, because your leader owns this site. an important thing i have learned from lotr: when a movie gets 100 positive reviews and just a few negative ones, forget it, it means nothing.
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the originals werent kids movies. watch the original versions(not the s.e.) and tell me they were made soley for kids. jedi was starting the trend and got more humor and wimsy with the ewoks. star wars was a good, family adventure the way that indiana jones was. serious, yet fun for everyone. Han shot first damnit. he was a rogue, a pirate, a smuggler, not a nice guy.who changes at the end. empire was a darker, more adult movie. but it was still good for everyone. no in joke references to pop culture. no fart jokes. untill return. then we got tarzan. i dont mind the ewoks, but if they ewoks were made today, they wouldve spoken cutesy broken english and dont try to deny it. star wars did not become what it is because it was soley a kids series of movies. it was pure adventure. the kind that all people can like. that is what was so awesome about it. it made you feel like you could be part of it. it didnt get bogged down in star trek techno babble. you just hopped in, and could help the rebels. you could become a jedi, all you had to do was train. but now. you have to have midichorlians, and be a certain age. and the fart jokes. the olsens twin lines spoken by jar jar. the accidental victory. the uninteresting cgi battle of the gungans. it wasnt very interesting. i read the book before i saw it. and i thought it would be so good. i thought that jar jar wasnt that annoying. darth maul had several more lines. but then i saw it. and the pain begain. this movie had wooden acting, uninteresting characters, a rather stupid storyline. the only cool thing were the jedi. and that just means the fight at the end. just give me the ending fight, and thats it. cut out everything else. neither the force nor the dark side could fight the power of the twinkie. and why wont we see clearly where nsync are if theyre in the movie. and how do we know they wont sing. maybe they will be leading the chorus in a jedi burial hymn or something like in the end of henry the fifth. look at jedi, the s.e. has a musical number. you really think lucas is above having a musical number in ep2? i think not. the only good sci fi anymore is farscape. its funny, dark, and whitty. and its got the adventure and the heroes star wars use to have. im not asking star wars to be like farscape. im just asking lucas to watch the originals and stay true to how he originally did it, instead of making what should be a darker set of stories then the originals just because of the subject matter. but no, he's got to cutesy them up, and make them so kid friendly that the new ones could be shown and a saturday morning. he's not staying true to the original feel of star wars. the original story telling. he is making the story of darth vader, a jedi who betrays and murders hundreds of jedi, into a light hearted family romp. anyone else see the irony of this. if pm had been half the movie that star wars and empire had been, we would all really care about annie, and not want to see the innocent little boy become the evil monster he becomes. but we dont. infact, im just so utterly happy that he's not the character anymore. that someone else is playing him. i couldnt care less about any of the characters in pm. the originals you could. they had personality, they came to life. they didnt just stand around and say lines. with the cast of pm it shouldve been awesome. but no. the only people who absolutely love it are the star wars fans that love anything lucas does. which reminds me of the trekkers to some degree. and theyll watch anything no matter what the quality is just cause its got star trek in the title.
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I used to be a huge fan.. HUGE fan of Lucas's. I jumped off while the Hindenburgh (aka Phantom Shitstain) burst into flames.. and guess what assholes - this baby is going down! Orion is the WORST kind of fan - the kind that blindly defends Lucas, blames "fanboys" for him hating Episode 1 (come on, retard.. the movie sucked, that's why you hated it - baby greedo, jar-jar and actors so bored they were practically catatonic - that's what you hated). In addition Orion defends his preciousss Star Wars by saying, "No matter how much you geeks complain this movie is going to make millions!" Jesus Chris on a Pogo Stick, HELLO! A movie making millions doesn't make your franchise any better, you blind assfucked clown! This movie makes millions because of its brand name.. if we were all smart we would stop GIVING THIS FAT BASTARD dinero and START GIVING OURSELVES CREDIT for waking up! So Orion, you are awarded the prize for stupidest bastard on Talkback, if not for your retarded rants, for your mindless devotion to a dying franchise - I think we need a petition to make Lucas stop drinking homemade moonshine. It's not just NSync, it's everything - wake up people and stop forking over your hard-earned money only to get buttfucked by 600-lb Georgie.
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Isn't whether or not GL puts N'STINK or Carson Daly or the whole goddamn cast of Real World and Road Rules in this flick. We've all read the treatment for this one and it looks balls to the wall Star Wars. Come on, you don't think a room full of a hundred lightsabres "vwoom, vwoom, crackling" back and forth isn't gonna be the most badass thing you've ever seen (at least on the screen). This film is gonna kick serious ass and you'll all be there. Don't kid yourselves. Stop all this "SW vs. Spidey vs. LOTR vs. Matrix vs. X-men vs. Kubrick vs. PTA" idiocy already. As my pal, Buzz once said, "It's alright kids, you can see both films. George and Peter don't mind sharing your money." The only problem with Star Wars and George Lucas is that he is desperately out of touch. All of you who blame Natalie Portman and Ewan McGregor for their wooden performances really don't know the first thing about what directors are really supposed to do. You see, the director's job first and foremost isn't to design blue screen effects, CGI aliens with shitty Jamaica accents or think up dumb names like Dexter Jetster. No, a director's primary job is to get good performances out of his talent. George Lucas doesn't know the difference between a good performance and a shitty one so most of his talent just sleepwalks through their lines because their annoyed by the fact that he gives more of a crap about the green golf ball their doing the scene with than them. Now in this age of all these great Sci-fi / Fantasy / Comic Book movies coming out, all these real directors are showing him up because they've got the brains to let the effects company(9 times out of 10 ILM, ironically enough) worry about the effects while they concentrate on the actors. It's the talent that draw the audience in more so than any effect. If you can't get goods performances from your actors than you're pretty much screwing yourself. That said, in the case of George Lucas Star Wars is now such a phenomena in and of itself that he can afford not to really care. He'll keep making these movies with fanstatic action sequences and mediocre acting and he'll continue to make millions. It's just a shame that if he took that one extra step he could actually make great movies and not good movies. AOTC will make a shit load. We'll all see it once or twice. The problem is that like most modern blockbusters it will make that money only because of Hype and a decent marketing campaign and like TPM it won't have legs past July. Anybody remember the old blockbusters that were so good they stayed in the theater from May all the way through August. What am I talking about. Judging from the level of maturity in this talkback half of you were probably twinkles in your father's eye when Gremlins came out.
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I'd just like to point out that I'm the only one here who acyually PAID MONEY to see On the Line in theaters (easily the funniest film of the year... poor Dave Foley, poor poor Dave Foley), so take your comments and shove them up your asses. I have no problem with the members of N'Sync as people; I have big problems with them as actors (because I know they suck) but I especially have a problem with Lucas thinking it's a good idea to put them in the film. It's not a difficult concept.
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LOL...Lucas and ILAME are being SCHOOLED so much by my LOYAL SUBJECTS (such as VAAN who is laying it down on you bitches with BOTH BARRELS) that the KING is just sitting back and laughing his ROYAL ass off at all the Star Wars bitchy-biches and Twatty Nelson's that in these moments of overwhelming dark fear, are realizing their 'Daddy' Lucas REALLY is theultimate evil. LOL...they dont know what way to turn! "DUH! This is a good move, because...duh...duh...uh, girls will come." Oh, I see, BITCH -- it's a good idea because LUCAS IS SELLING OUT EVEN FURTHER? LOL...Sorry, BITCH, according to the KING, playing demographics and slutting your "film" for dollars doesn't = to impressing the KING and his COURT. You want to do it right, BITCH, make the damn movie not the COMMERICAL, check out what GENERAL JACKSON is doing. LOL... the KING hereby decrees that WE need to take this story back, and start from scratch. That's right, a new EP1, the whole shebang. Afterall, how much ACTUAL WRITING did Georgie do on Ep4-6? He had the concept. Ok, we have the concept - Obi-Wan and a his apprentice, Anakin Skywalker. Give that to GENERAL JACSKSON and after he's done making the three GREATEST FILMS of all time, MAYBE he can take the time to straighten out this COLLOSAL MESS that Lucas has made of Star Wars. LOL...seriously, are LUCAS and ILAME that OUT OF TOUCH with their fanbase that they thought we would STAND for this kind of shit and accept it? Oh, I know the BITCHES do, look at them give reason after reason (all of them having to do with how COOL they think it is to sell out), but WE, your KING and his SUBJECTS, under the guide of GENERAL JACKSON NO LONGER have to. We have TTT, ROTK, and that DVD footage to look forward to. LOL...yeah, see ILAME and Lucas, with all that, you CANT do whatever the $$$$ leads you to and expect us to still take it. WE HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE AND EVEN IF WE DIDNT WE AINT GETTING INTO BED WITH YOU ANYMORE, YOU NICKEL WHORE. And you, BITCH, were SCHOOLED by the KING of Talkback! Whip-tash! (The Balrog's Bullwhip, to signal my departure)
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http://www.ifilm.com/ifilm/product/film_info/0,3699,2410845,00.html ++++++++++++++++ In which good old Nippon George hawks cameras and sells out his storm troopers. This is the funniest shit I've read in the morning in a long, long time. Star Wars' prominence in the hearts of an entire generation just took a nose dive, whether or not you care about N Sync being in the movie.
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I was hoping he'd cast them as members of the Jedi Council or some such. Then I could finally experience firsthand a great disturbance in the force - like the sound of a million fanboy heads exploding..
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Ok, I am a big fan of Star Wars, I like FOTR as well. The reason why I got upset with this NSync news is because, I am a true fan of the Star Wars movies. I felt like a slap to my face to have NSync do a cameo. It would have been ok, if they didnt tell anyone and it will come as a surprise when you watch it, but since they made it public it is just a ploy to win more fans or sell more merchandise. Even if they are unrecognizable or just in it for a few seconds it ruins the credibility of the movie. I am not here to bash George Lucas but obviously he had made a mistake, I just hope AOTC will still be a good movie but it doesnt sound like it would be. He should ask Kasdan to write with him again.
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You're sure right about the fact that people did die in 'Episode 1', boy I guess George Lucas really IS aiming at making films for adults, oh wait - he's not.
By the way, I resent you implying that I'm not a real fan of 'Star Wars'. Just because I think the new film sucked and an even suckier one is on the way doesn't mean I'm not a fan of 'Star Wars', since I don't consider these new abominations to be the 'Star Wars' of old. Also, I don't "live in my own reality" - I obviously wasn't being 100% literal when I said no-one will die in 'Episode II' because George won't show people dying anymore. Obviously characters died in 'Phantom', but it didn't really mean anything in the scheme of things did it? I'm sure it did to you, but to me I didn't even feel irritated when Qui-Gon died - now the death of Gandalf and Boromir - THAT is on-screen dying. Also, do you really think you'll see people blow up in the film? When Qui-Gon and Darth Maul died there was about 1 teaspoon full of blood in the shot(s), come on - I was talking about REAL violence... -
...is the cluelessness, UTTER FUCKING CLUELESSNESS, that Lucas has about it all. Did you see the Phantom Menace DVD? In his director's commentary he totally glosses over Jar Jar Binks, saying only that it was sorta neat to work with a totally computer animated character. He blows past the whole medichlorians controversy with an equally easygoing attitude. He's pissing off the people who made him rich and it's not so much that he doesn't care, but doesn't even seem to notice. He's in his own little flannel surrounded, money oozing out of every orifice, insular little world. I suppose that some would argue that he shouldn't listen to fans--that he should follow his own artistic vision first and foremost--but I hardly believe that "yippee," "how wude," shitty subtitles, Greedo firing first and countless other attempts to homogenize and sanitize his film to be any kind of "artistic vision." Oh well, Spider Man and The Two Towers will still rock.
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Yes, I think that SNL is funnier
than MadTV. It was a close match
during the first season, when I
would actually have to struggle
to decide whether or not to change
the channel at 11:30. But it has
since adopted all of the bad
habits of SNL, and raised them to
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jesus christ!
the retribution for george: he has to read THIS WHOLE DAMN COOL T A L K B A C K ! ! ! !
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P.Parker, you're my hero now. LOTR fans should leave. You're under the delusion that Star Wars and Lord of the Rings are having some "war" or something. They're just jealous that Star Wars is more popular than Lord of the Rings will ever be, despite how "disappointing" the newer films might be. LOTR was a "good" movie, but far from perfect. Far from the greatest thing I've ever seen. If they'd trim about 45 minutes from it, it'd be better, but then most of you would bitch about them cutting out too much from the book. You love LOTR, that's fine. I'm glad. Just don't criticize Star Wars. They're too completely different properties. Star Wars wasn't meant to be "Deep". It is meant to be fun. If you can't handle that, go put on your rings and be merry. I for one, don't see the point in getting bent out of shape over seeing N'SYNC GETTING KILLED. Personally, I think it's a brilliant move, as I think a great number of people do want to see them bite the dust. Not to mention the fact that it's just CAMEO appearances. Meaning, a second or two of screentime only. They won't even have real character names.
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Woo Hoo, we got a live one here! OrionsAngel backpedals and pretends to be all "who gives a fuck" after he defends lucas 16,000 times in one thread - it's like GunsBlazing, but without the ability to spell and form ideas! Holy shit, I think this is what Lucas is depending on: 13-year-old ignoramuses whose idea of Star Wars revolves around shitting banthas, prancing baby greedos and roger-rabbit aliens taking turns ruining a franchise - HOLY SHIT, OrionsAngel, you suck! Wake up and smell the coffee dude - you come off like a weak, bitch-ass Afghanistani slave woman! Take the veil off and quit getting buttfucked by your bearded master! If you'd take Lucas's jar-jar-smelling prong out of your li'l mouth, maybe you'd wise up and stop posting such pussy-mouthed messages - Sleepy Woman, LaTrice and Re-Run OUT
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Jan 03, 2002 2:09:57 PM CST
"GREEDY" Trade Federation??? (From TPM Opening Scroll). Is Luca$
by billy_zardus
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N-sync will not ruin this movie but this is SELLING OUT by standard definition. Here is the funny thing. I can piece together this movie from the 90210 trailers and this news and the outlook does not look good. Frankly, LOTR is not the second coming but by God, Lucas had better prepare for another schooling after FOTR. Yes, I mean TTT. Oh and a little movie comes out two weeks before Star Wars - Spiderman. Something tells me there is going to be a serious backlash and that Lucas is going to be on the receiving a severe critical and commercial ass whooping from the webbed wonder. The Styler has spoken. Let the people know.
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When this scene happens, I will put down my large nachos, drop a Nagasaki-leveling load in my plus-sized BVDs and fling them right at the SCREEN. The sight of my corn and poop splattered shorts sliding down the screen will be much more entertaining than ANYTHING involving N'SPHINCTER.
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rick mc callum is a speechifier!! that doesn`t mean that i don`t believe the confirmation but he mostly babbles!!! otherwise mainly in the case of indy 4....
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Defend Star Wars against the frisky TB
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this is why he should have no part in the making of his movies, he's not in the same frame of mind that he was twenty years ago. No he wants cute little kiddies and happy things in his movies. Ah bite me.
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Three linear miles of talkback, filled with utter despair at Lucas casting band members as an in-joke. Jesus, have ANY of you ever been laid in your entire lives? Or more to the point, is there anyone else out there with their own kids who might have some perspective on this? If I were Lucas, I might have done the same thing for my kid, who is 14. What's the fun of being George Lucas otherwise? Remember, this is not Lord of the Rings, with a decades-long literary history from a major author that has to be cleaved to. George INVENTED Star Wars. He can basically do what he likes with it. If the fans and their fantasies don't like it, they can stay home. Sorry, but the franchise is not your property, guys, and George Lucas is not your lackey. If you don't like it, do what one guy here on the talkbacks said he would do: make your own damn films. With luck, you might make it big with a quality movie. It happens. More likely, you'll make one of those artsy films that shows up for a week in that theater behind the dumpster, makes $18,000 at the box office, and wins all kinds of rave reviews from the Right Critics and wins all kinds of awards from the Right Film Organizations. You know, the awards that will look so good on your orange-crate furniture. Hell, no one is going to read this. Anyone who has read every one of these talkbacks not only has never been laid, but probably won't get laid until there are six-foot drifts of frozen hydrogen in Hell.
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One, don't ever associate Re-Run with your fucking drivel. Two, Mark Hamil's whining bitch performance in A New Hope was every bit as horrid as your laundry list of complaints. "I was supposed to go to Tashi Station to pick up some power converters! My pussy hurts so bad I can't stand it!" Start realizing the first three movies will look just as good to kids of this generation as 4-6 looked to ours. In the long run, fuck the whole goddamned series, it was doomed from the beginning. And your bullshit retorts about Lucas ruining the franchise are as much horseshit as saying Mark Hamil was good in any of the originals.
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the fiddler on the roof is a good musical, but star wars is the greatest movie classic of all time. i think fotr is highly overrated. please harry, we need a new fotr talkback, these two or three star wars bashing bitches start to annoy me, they need a place where they can masturbate over and over again, and from my point of view, a star wars talkback is the wrong place for such...uhhh...important activities.
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Why should you expect anything from that point on.
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Freedom I think when you compare TPM to the first 3 perhaps 'shit' works as an adjective though I would call it average and well the fight at the end pulled it up to there. I hope George is aware that his last wasn't his best...god I hope. The box office would lie though seeing how it's one of the top of all time. Still until you see the finished product, it is difficult to Judge his next one ehhh.
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The only reason you fanboys hold the original trilogy so holy is the fact that you saw it as children. I myself saw Star Wars when I was eight and loved it. By the time Return of the Jedi came out, I was in my early teens and was starting to realize how cheesy it really was. Believe me, if the original Star Wars came out today, you'd all be ripping it for its terrible acting and preposterous dialogue (with Carrie Fisher's apalling off-again, on-again English accent receiving special mention). The only thing that elevates it above Roger Corman's Battle Beyond the Stars is the special effects! So, if Lucas wants 'N Sync in the damn thing for a split second, let him. I couldn't care less! Personally, I think it would be worth 9 bucks to see them disemboweled! Phew!
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You don't even know Re-Run! Re-Run hangs with us 'cause she's our girl - yeah she fat, but she can dance like nobody's business! She ugly, too, but one day she's gonna grow out of it - like that girl in the Princess Diaries - we just gotta straighten her hair and teeth, get her some new clothes, slap a tiara on her and she can be Queen Amidala! --- As for Star Wars.. Don't you EVEN TALK about my Star Wars - shit, son, did you even SEE the Phantom Menace?? For GOD'S SAKES how can you compare it to the original???? I mean in Return of the Jedi, you could tell Leia had been snorting something before the shoot and the ewoks were pretty much midgets in reeking costumes, but I will slap you into 2005 if you try to compare the two. Yeah Luke was a whiny bitch, but he was a likeable whiny bitch who turned into a damn DAMN cool jedi. Leia was beautiful AND LIKEABLE. Hell everyone had personality in those films - and what do we have now? Qui "Bored and Embarrassed To Be a Part of this" GonJin** Ewan "WHY OH WHY Did I sign this contract" MacGregor, Natalie "I have nice tits but deliver my lines like an ironing board" Portman, Jake "I Would look JUST LIKE Shirley Temple If I Curled My Hair - tee hee" Lloyd, Senator Whogivesaflyingfuck, boring trade agreements, overly-saturated CGI, borderline racist JACKASS Jar-Jar "how wude" Binks (you cannot.. CANNOT deny that), jackass two-headed announcer, jackass baby greedo, jackass shitting bantha, jackass Chinese Laundry lifepartner aliens, etc etc etc etc - the list goes on and ON - My qualm isn't so much that the movie won't work with children.. hell it works GREAT with kids - but what about the people that allowed him to make the new trilogy - what about us? We're not 5-year-olds anymore and shit&fart jokes don't cut it - As an adult my reaction to Jar Jar is to mame and destroy. Seeing the bored countenances on the actors' faces throughout the entire movie irks me. Realizing that the entire production was blanketed with an FX-heavy gloss doesn't make the plotline or sequences any less asinine. It only makes me angry. Which is what I am. Kidding aside, Lucas has dug his own grave by handing us this bullshit and expecting us to stick around to watch "Annie" skywalker dryhump the most boring queen in cinema. If anything this new series is as stupid as it is unnecessary. Let's not even begin discussing the idiocy that is the theory of midachlorians - oh god, that is wretched. Long live the original trilogy and let's stop accepting mediocrity with the Star Wars brand stamped on it. Wise up, kids, we got the shaft and will through EP3.
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He's gone to the dark side...
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My post was mainly just to garner your response, but in the end...you had to see it coming. What no one want to admit is that Lucas got himself a fanbase that he never expected with the 4-6. Whether we loved the originals or not, I really don't think they were ever intended to play to people over thirty. Now that the unwavering fanatics are grown up, we have to live with the fact that Lucas is a director of children's movies and that is our personal hell. It was kind of like watching Eddie Murphy sign his life and soul away to Disney. I've still got my original copies of 1-3, sans re-edits, right along side my copies of Delirious, etc. The next five years are all about humbling ourselves into the sad fact that Lucas is just like Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny. They're all really cool until you find out they don't exist in the way you thought they did.
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Jan 03, 2002 3:12:48 PM CST
Extra, Extra, read all about it: GunsBlazing believes everything
by sleepy_woman
AP Jan 3, 2002 - New York, NY: In a press conference today, George Lucas stood before an angry, torch-weilding mob and delivered this speech to the many once-fans who contributed billions to his Star Wars Franchise: "Fuck you, you stupid dumb fucks HAR HAR HAR. Jar-Jar was my kids' idea, yeah I'll admit. Bantha shit? My kids! [eye twitches uncontrollably] NSync?*snicker*... uh yeah.. that was uh.. Rick's!! It was Rick's idea!.. oh fuck, who cares, yes, my fatassed daughter wanted those crazy kids in the movie.. hehehe.. Fuck everyone of ya! [walks like an Egyptian] I'm making the movie I should have before I went crazy! [flips off crowd]" After his speech, Lucas ran behind the stage and molested three boys whose names have not been announced at this time, but are known only as "GunsBlazing", "Orion'sAngel" and "DrCool". When asked about this horrifying act, the boys looked up at "Unkie George" and then back at the camera. "Daddy can do no wrong!" said "GunsBlazing", while combing what looked like a Padme doll .. "DrCool" began squealing and jumped on Lucas's leg, undulating his hips as if he needed something. "Orion'sAngel" mumbled something about wishing he was dead and then screamed, "HOW WUDE" as he jumped into the crowd, which ripped him to little bloody pieces. The whereabouts of Lucas are unknown at this time, but rumors indicate he's busy creating more shitty characters to hate for his Episode 3, what some are calling Return of the Retards. - AP Wire
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Well, SelectD, I think you're probably right, although I really can't agree that ESB was really made for kids. It had mature themes, lots of wonderful violence.. a dark resonance that wasn't really in ANH.. but more than anything, it was entertaining. I cannot say that about EP1. Saying something is a children's movie doesn't excuse it from having redeeming qualities; there's no comparing Power Ranger: The Movie with Harry Potter.. or Pokemon 3 with Wizard of Oz. What Lucas did was replace plot for CGI. He introduced characters that are simply, ludicrously boring, and actors who really really did not want to be saying their extremely trite and cliche lines. He played to the most lowbrow of moviegoers, and that is unforgivable. Let's face it, kids are dumber than they were 20 years ago. I don't think Lucas had to cater to our ADD-riddled, retarded children and sacrifice the quality of his movie. We're talking lacking movie-making now.. not just Nsync or Jar-Jar. The whole she-bang. His entire approach to cinema has changed. I don't want to be a part of that, and i don't think I should give my money to support that... In fact, I don't think anyone should.. but since i can't control people from wasting their money, I can only steal their wallets and sabotage movie reels. If we all attempt to kidnap Ahmed Best and destroy film stock, we can make a change, people. Please, my friends.. do or do not.. there is no try.
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THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE WHERE the truth is told about these lame-ass movies!!!!!!!! They SUCK. THEY FLAME! LONG LIVE
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Oh bitches. Bitches, bitches, bitches... sigh. IT IS OVER. Do you understand? WE DO NOT have to accept this crap! The KING hereby DECREES to his LOYAL SUBJECTS - how hard will it be NOT to see this flick? SCHOOL! IN SESSION! That's right, bitches, thanks to GENERAL JACKSON we have Fellwship (breaking records and playing NOW at your local theater) we have TTT coming in LESS than a year, we have the DVD footage, ROTK, plus all the trailers that go with it. LET THIS ANI-SYNC BE THE LAST STRAW. If these bitches like getting brow-beat by the American Corporate Slut Machine and think we have to take it because the same guy thought of Darth Vader in the 70's, lol, well... (Twisted Sister enter, playing "We're Not Gonna Take It") GUESS AGAIN! DONT BUY OR SELL, ITS CRAP! And how much you want to be Lucas and ILAME put a nice little behind the scenes Jedi fight on the Star Wars site or something? That's right, bitches, I bet they try and toss a "fanboy bone," in the next few days after this FIASCO - DONT GIVE IN. I dont care if we find out someone has a TRIPLE BLADED saber, DONT BUY OR SELL, ITS CRAP! READ - IT IS OVER! And you, BITCH, have been SCHOOLED by the KING of Talkback! WHIP-TASH! (Lucas, beating you bitches with the bullwhip, since you seem to enjoy it so much, until the Balrog takes it to snap in honor of my departure. Then hands it back to Lucas, as you beg for him to brow-beat you bitches even further)
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I had three filmmakers as heroes as a child: George Lucas, Steven Spielberg and Jim Henson, because they made the movies that spoke to me growing up. Jim Henson died, but never lost his taste, his soul or his sense of humor. Spielberg made great movies, but since the pussification of ET (walkie talkies to cover the shotguns? What's next? Removing the shotgun scene from "Babe?". . .say what you will about the movie, but like the early days of Jim Henson productions, it was NOT condescending to kids, which I will always respect). This makes Spielberg a sellout. Changing the integrity of the true and pure vision. . . which then brings me to George Lucas. Sellout to the maximum. Again, sold the pure original version for a new, sick perception. It was fine before, with relative unknowns, no big star power, no big names vying for roles. THAT's what's wrong with NSUCK being in the movie. George Lucas is a panderer to the lower orders, those who would prefer to be condescended to, like Rosie O'Donnell fans, and I for one, as a scifi fan, will not be forced to endure shrieking, screaming little girls in line with me to see Ep II, just so I can listen to them yap, and whine and squeal and be friggin' overdramatic like little teenage girls do because of this convoluted vision of girl power they possess, which is all a facade of who can buy the most merchandise to prove who's the biggest fan of someone who will never love them back. Fanboys beware, for perverted "girl power" is taking over your world. And another thing -- I'd rather give my right ovary than see Ben Affleck as "Daredevil." Thank you for this entry into my madness and grief.
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Yawn...so this is what it has come down to. A Talkback that you could read from now until May 16 (even excluding Fuck'face'talkback's assault of redundancy). So let me see if I've got this straight. Everyone's childhoods have been raped. But who cares? It's just a cameo for like one second, dude. N'Sync are without a granule of talent. This means nothing. This is a sign of how bad the movie is. No one in here is ever going to get laid, except the hundreds of people who insist on leaving "no one here is going to get laid" posts. We're jealous losers. We care and that's why it hurts. Peter Jackson and George Lucas can, depending on the perspective, wipe each other's asses. It must be some sort of toilet paper Mobius loop! It's George's fault. No, it's McCallum's fault. No, it's the fatass daughter's fault. No, it's Harry's fault. No, kids, it's OUR FAULT. We painted ourselves into this corner. George is showing his Palpatine insidious stripes now. Thank the media for giving you time to meditate on whether you will see this film once, twice, or maybe, just maybe, not at all. It may be one fleeting moment, but I think that this hopefully has awakened many of us. We should stop caring. Not because caring makes you a virgin/loser/basement dweller. Rather, because if you honestly feel that you have been betrayed, you shouldn't be the low self-esteem beat-down blondie that goes back repeatedly to her wife-beater shirt-wearing trailer trash boyfriend. Stand up for your integrity and walk away. (I know the cross-gender analogy makes some of us uncomfortable, but how many of us have lost out repeatedly to such a syndrome or waited for our John Cusack Hollywood ending only to see Girl X grab Mr Neaderthal's hand and assist him in pounding her over the head with a club again and again and again) It was all roses and smiles a long, long time ago. I challenge some of you to see this film through the eyes of a casual moviegoer. You shouldn't punish yourself by hoping for a single flawed man to do a miraculous about-face. It porbably won't happen. So my best advice is not to "get a life." Instead, get on with YOUR life. Sometimes I honestly feel glad that Jimi Hendrix died when he did. I certainly did not want to see his "comeback" album with Rob Thomas and Wyclef Jean or whoever. Many circumstances have conspired to insure that Lucas can never go home again. He probably can't comprehend the clamor. He had to deal with his life for sixteen years while we hardly thought about him. George isn't even MTV. He's VH1 trying to get cool suddenly. So...what have I learned? That was then, this is now, and we will NEVER as a group 'get it.' There are pits of dissension and animosity everywhere and we are not exempt. Defend your opinions. Call out the posers and pretenders. Scuffle with the resident dickheads. Fight back. Just try to keep the shots above the belt (well try for a little bit). Finally, one more thing. George, I'll bet your daughter makes Veruca Salt look like an exemplar of patience and selflessness. "But Daddy, I want an Oompa-Loompa in the Jedi Council...daddy, I want a dress just like Padme's!" This post will be buried like Haley Joel Osment under tons of ice...oops! No! Wait! I didn't mean to bring up A--reaching for the post button--al...most...there....
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N'SYNC are shown in the background during a Mandolorian attack led by Jango Fett, barely holding their own miserable, "feen tuckin'" azzez, before being inhaled LITERALLY bu Darth Blizzard of Oz and Darth Jay of Jersey.
Before being inhaled into the left nostril of Darth Ozzie, using his rolled up republic hundred cred, Jedi Justin is held in the force choke and forced to watch the young maiden Brittany teabagged by the evil BeetleJuice the Hutt...
gotta run...the thorazine is kicking in...wasn't LUCAS daughter actually WILLY in FREE WILLY or was she the villager you get for giving Sally Strothers a $20 each month?!!?!?!?
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Doesn't anyone else think that it's cool that they get f'ing blown up?! That rocks! I'm looking forward to it....
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Jan 04, 2002 7:19:43 AM CST
ATTENTION! TO ALL STAR WARS-BASHING, LOTR-CRAZY BITCHES! ATTENTI
by pparker
ATTENTION! this is a star wars talkback, not a talkback for homo hobbits! stop bashing star wars, you jealous bitches. i hope your film will get the golden globe for best comedy/musical, because there were a lot of laughs in this movie. nsync is gay? perhaps they are, but you will see them for a few frames only, and in lotr, we got a homosexual elf in tights and his homo fellowship for almost three hours!!! running around in the woods in tights like errol flynn in the 30s!!!!! but i have to admit, the cgi work would have caused a sensation during the black and white period in the first half of the century!!! plus overacting, laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame fights, the lamest fights ever, the opposite of cool. just lame. you jealous assholes, please stop bashing star wars. i hope the academy gives all oscars to this so called masterpiece, perhaps these bitches will stop this laughable behavior towards star wars....but no,on second thought better not, because then jealousy will turn into a feeling of being superior (haha, our movie got 12 oscars, what about yours?). you are not welcome here. ATTENTION! this is a star wars talkback!!!! please harry, a new lotr talkback is needed for these two or three bitches that wont stop bashing our beloved star wars films. i have nothing against people who compare these two movies, or against people who claim that lotr is the better movie, its their opinion, and thats ok. but insulting lucas, writing horrible things about what they want to do to him ( i know you mean it as a joke, but this goes too far!), just to show us how good their little homo movie is, thats definitely not ok. you are not welcome here!!!! go away!!!! go to www.theonering.net and masturbate there together with your homo friends! its a good homopage,
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Jan 04, 2002 7:34:14 AM CST
about schooling, star wars bashing, homo fellowship, and much mo
by pparker
we dont want to be schooled. please sir, king of, whatever, go away with your homo fellowship, go to www.theonering.net and masturbate there with the balrog (nice pet), gandalf (b
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I'll still go see it... Too much of a Star Wars fan not to. Although, I'm of a mind to see it at a matinee first. Then we'll see if it merits repeat viewings. But the boy band being in there will certainly grate the nerves. It already is. It's like as one talkbacker put it: it's like if Peter Jackson had the backstreet boys in the hobbiton as hobbits during Bilbo's birthday. No speaking parts; they were just there. Eeeeeee... That would oh so make me sick. It's the point of it. See? 'Like I said though, I'll still have to see it anyway. Unless, gasp, gasp, the unthinkable happens. If NSYNC sings some stupid Star Wars pop song I'm out. Through. Gone. Lost me. If they even hint at even a single scene in one of their lammo songs and I have to hear it, I'm thorougly through. 'Only so much one can take. Please, Lucas, if you have to have them in... Please make them sign a contract that they can't sing about it... PLEASE!!! Anyways, around that same time we'll have Spidey coming out and FOTR coming out on DVD. This can oh be such a brilliant year for film. Such Possibilities. And of course the crowning achievement in the end again will be LOTR, with The Two Towers. Just think folks... Fellowship is the dullest and most drawn out portion of Lord of the Rings. TTT and ROTK are 10 times better parts of the overall story. Its where all the excitement is. 'Going to make for wonderful cinema. Fellowship was basically an introduction, and look how gagga people went over it. Just think... :) Anyways, let's hope the NSYNC thing was just a bad burrito Lucas had for lunch and that it's not an indication of things to come. There's way more room in the world for an infinity of great films. One film doesn't make or break the bank... Culturally speaking.
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I wrote it eloquently yesterday and it was deleted. So I'll write it in true fanboy fashion today and maybe it will stay. Ahem... HARRY SUCKS BIG SWEATY DONKEY BALLS!! HE CAN'T WRITE WORTH SHIT!! THAT PIECE OF CLAPTRAP READS LIKE IT WAS SPEWED FORTH FROM A 4-YEAR-OLDS SNOT COVERED PEN!! HARRY: IF YOU'RE GOING TO POSE LIKE A WRITER THEN LEARN HOW TO FUCKING WRITE YOU TUB OF LARD!!!
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Hey!
I really do hope that the rumour of N*sync beeing in Star Wars isn't true!!!!! AHHH! This will totally ruin the film...(I think). Of course this is just another way to make some extra (like they need it) cash! Hmm... Like Harry says they should do the
"ginsu blade of death routine on them all"!!!!
But if it's true it wouldn't surprise me if Britney herself became a stand in for Yoda...
/Emo
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Jan 04, 2002 12:54:53 PM CST
Ooh, mi finger is num an my mommy sez u r all a bunch o drug fee
by pretty much yeah
Oh, wait, that's the taliban. Eh, same difference.
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...The Horror...
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I love science fiction. I would like to consider myself a sci fi writer, maybe one day, maybe a published sci fi writer. Now that i have learned what I learned I feel dirty inside, like someone not only took my innocence, but also like they killed my God, (I could go on, but i think you get the idea). I swearthis makes me want to boycott Star Wars, which stole everything good anyway from most of the other great sci fi series out there,and i am going back to my pure love for Frank Herbert's DUNE. Star wars may have created the obsession, but my belief in the Force is dead. Long Live the Maud'dib!
and movie wise, I am now living the Lord ofthe Rings dream.
Lucas sold out like a cheap corner crack whore. Screw that, time for a better, purer Sci Fi vision. -
Lucas did not do it for his daughter, he did it for him self, cuz, he has a secret homo thing with the boys, not that I am against the gay I strongly support them, but I thought it was time Goergie boy came out. Also, the Kids ain't gonna get killed and they will have at least two scenes.
Enjoy Sukas! -
to even consider doing something like this, let alone do it.......could u imagine peter jackson putting backstreet boys in lord of the rings? no, cuz he wanted to make a good movie, not kiss pre-teen ass
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Jan 04, 2002 11:47:21 PM CST
Just to clear it up, Rick McCallum is NOT a real producer, he is
by jettison
In a standard Hollywood movie, the producers hire the directors and are the main shit. Rick doesn't have the authority to put extra mayo on his sandwich without first checking in with Sir George. So any bullshit about Rick setting this N'Stync mess up and George having little or no knowledge about it is RIDICULOUS. George slapped Rick on the ass and said "Go make it happen bitch" and Rick went a-runnin'.
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You'll all go see it anyways, just like me, even if they replaced the Yoda muppet with Whoopie Goldberg.
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Why is everyone so pessamistic about it? N*SYNC gets to DIE! Its not like they're major characters who steal the show -- The get to die!!
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Again, hillarious talk backs from the Star Wars fans. They have truly mastered the art form. This news is kinda crazy, though. Inserting big (and in some social circles, much hated) celebrities into your movie just to maul them seems like something that would be more at home in Spaceballs: The Return. It obviously won't ruin the movie, but I think it might have offically stripped the franchise of what little credibility it had left. Oh well. I think this whole trilogy is just going to be written off as a Godfather Part III. A failed but good natured attempt to rekindle 20 year old magic. There are worse crimes against humanity.
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Well that does it for me. Later George. You are not getting my 8 bucks to see those assholes. I am done with You. I can deal with the bad acting, the story being eclipsed by the special effects and the stupid characters. But this? THIS! NO WAY! NO! FUCK NO! I am through with star wars. Thanks dickhead Mcallum..loser! Fag! I QUIT - You win George...........shithead.
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thanks George for making me not give a damn about your silly new movies!
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im not looking forward to this
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Ok, maybe it was Extra, I can't tell the difference. However, they did give the rumor airtime. Given that these entertainment "news" shows are such tools (in every sense of the word) of the industry, it has GOT to be true. They wouldn't risk offense...
I doubt I will even rent this one...
Is it true that Brittany Spears will play the part of the Queen and Marilyn Manson that of the major evil dude?
I hear the plot involves the rescue of the Burger King... -
http://www.theforce.net/episode2/index.html#13803
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