Dec. 21, 2001, 12:47 p.m. CST
by cameron fry
do you slaves even bother to watch the preview or just see that there haven't been any postings yet so you have to see if you can be the first retard to shout first? Anyway, this preview looked pretty cool...I hadn't heard about this movie
Dec. 21, 2001, 12:54 p.m. CST
Will it be dubbed or in subtitles? Will it be edited in any way?
Dec. 21, 2001, 1:22 p.m. CST
Mark Dacascos - remember him in Only the Strong and Double Dragon? Shivers galore.... he's a great martial artist - hopefully, this film will do him justice and allow his true potential to be shown...
Dec. 21, 2001, 1:35 p.m. CST
i actually posted that 4 days ago. i knew harry would have the link up this morning, but didn't want to wreck it for cooldan. jedi mind trick.
Dec. 21, 2001, 1:36 p.m. CST
I saw it this summer and it is definatly way cooler than "crying freeman" and if you get the european version it has lots of blooddripping action. But to be honest I had a problem with the change from suspense film to raw action movie.I would have prefered the story to stay more secretive overall as it started. (though I hated the bone-sword in the endfight)
Dec. 21, 2001, 1:57 p.m. CST
by The french man
This film is excellent. It's an Hk and french "capes et d'
Dec. 21, 2001, 2:34 p.m. CST
by Pallando Blue
All those trite, meaningless trailer cliches he was spouting, I kept thinking his next line was going to be "Coupon...The Movie..."
Dec. 21, 2001, 4:41 p.m. CST
Dec. 21, 2001, 4:43 p.m. CST
How do you say gay in french? Wizzo....
Dec. 21, 2001, 6 p.m. CST
I have wanted to see this movie for months! I have moved to the back of beyond, so lost my chance to see it at the upcoming film festival in my previous location, but would greatly appreciate knowing where and when it will be playing on the remote chance I can actually drive for 3 days to see it. Thanks, Harry.____Bee
Dec. 21, 2001, 6:02 p.m. CST
I got it over with!
Dec. 21, 2001, 11:56 p.m. CST
His daddy operates a martial arts school in Beaverton, Oregon. And I actually checked it out. However rather than discussing the school (since I was curious about the particular "style" that was being taught) - his dad kept bringin up Mark's latest and greatest direct to video flick. I never did join that school either..........
Dec. 22, 2001, 2:22 a.m. CST
.......but very entertaining nevertheless.It ran for about 2 weeks in the UK before being pulled from screens due to lack of interest! Shame.
Dec. 22, 2001, 2:52 a.m. CST
Seriously guys. I went into Brotherhood... thinking it would be the shit (my opinion, admittedly, having been supplemented heavily by the reviews I read on this website). Then I actually saw the movie. Sweet Baby Jesus on a motorbike, what a lemon. It's all cheeze-ball, desperate to be cool, almost pretentious bullshit. (I say "almost" only because most things that are truly pretentious have at least some claim, however shallow, to superiority). Don't be fooled. The whole thing is like some geeks like you (me) got drunk and sat around and thought of all the cool shit they had ever seen in movies, comic books or video games and tried to put all of it into one, messy movie. Never EVER let geeks have the final say on what should be in a movie... I don't harbor any scorn towards this movie, mind you, nor those that would like it. Just admit that it's bad. To even attempt to say that it's actually a quality film, or even "mindless entertainment," isn't really an affront to good cinema. It's more that saying that is....weird. Like I can't even understand how someone could think the movie was good...or maybe, perhaps, I do, and that's all the more frightening, because if that's the case it spells doom for film and even artistic culture in general. In which case, I'm holding each and everyone of you responsible. Seriously. Especially you, Harry...have some pride, man...
Dec. 22, 2001, 3:03 a.m. CST
didn't anyone else think the guy voicing over the first trailer sounded like an american doing a bad french accent... i kept picturing a guy wearing a beret, red scarf and striped shirt smoking a cigarette. -81666
Dec. 22, 2001, 6:06 a.m. CST
by Bob X
...except so far it's only playing in a handful of European countries. Anyway, saw it at a festival and thought it was a very well done (and fun) mix of epic, horror, fantasy and martial arts. It pales in comparison to FOTR but then again what doesn't - for me BOTW was still one of the year's best. By the way, was Legally Blonde really nominated for a "best picture" golden globe or was that just a bad dream and I am just waking up?
Dec. 22, 2001, 6:36 a.m. CST
BOTW...I saw this months ago.... A entertaining original film with a mad jaw dropping finale. But dont expect action,action,action cos a large chunk of it is a period piece (think CTHD). Theres about 3 fights in the film. Its a good film and is quite fresh but typically french.Mark decascos should be a bigger star and shold of been in this film a bit more.But all in all an original experience.I agree not quite as good as LOTR but cetainly should be seen. y aint seen anything like it!.But dont hype it up harry!
Dec. 22, 2001, 6:41 a.m. CST
Living in scotland i have seen this excelent film and would recommend it to anyone. It would be a great shame not to see it come out on a full release.
Dec. 22, 2001, 9:45 a.m. CST
at http://www.footlight.com for those of you who have seen it and loved the music. Hell, this is the guy who scored the EVIL DEAD films and HERCULES and XENA.
Dec. 22, 2001, 10:18 a.m. CST
by Mr Neth
Having seen this, it's fair to say that it's certainly an impressive attempt at genre-blending. Mark Dacascos does indeed kick ass and the fight scenes are superb (particularly the first, rain-drench whooping the guy hands out). That said, it loses its way BADLY in the last half hour and just becomes silly and trite. Still, definitely worthy of more attention than it got here in the UK.
Dec. 22, 2001, 7:45 p.m. CST
I think that BOTW is a good movie because its exiting, fun and different. It
Dec. 22, 2001, 9:16 p.m. CST
Saw it about a month ago in Britain. I found it more exciting than FOTR (personally), seriously good fighting, lots of sex (well, Sleepy Hollow didn't have a brothel scene, did it?) and the scene where the hero and heroine were cornered in the wooden house...
Dec. 23, 2001, 3:24 p.m. CST
by Bloke A
I loved this film. I saw it in the UK and I just loved the strangeness fights, sex and the beast was great, very original looking. Mark Dacascos was great as well. The only other film i've seen of his is Drive, ehich i bought on DVD and that is class. Apparently its a different cut to what was shown in USA, but it kicked Rush Hour's arse. Worth checking out. Time to blow!!!!
Dec. 23, 2001, 4:38 p.m. CST
by Witch King
This film isn't that good. I can't understand people who rave about the fight scenes, if you are a fan of Hong Kong movies you will probably be disappointed. The fights are shot from too close and edited horribly, which is the problem in 98% of the movies made outside Hong Kong, and in many new movies made even in there nowadays. Mark Dacascos is a great fighter but because of the editing theres no way you can tell if he is doing the stuff himself or has there been a stunt double. Also.. the rest of film is sloppy and pretentious as well... only good stuff is good production design and cinematography (except for the fight scenes) Overally its an okay/pretty good movie, but nothing to rave about...
Dec. 23, 2001, 8:23 p.m. CST
Not the type of movie I'd intentionally go see (a couple of gory scenes, accompanied by bone-crushing gory sound), but since we were invited to a private screning, to see the ORIGINAL FRENCH version, we went, and lucky US! The scenery was outstandingly beautiful, and the storyline was pieced together quite well by director Christophe Gans. Special kudos go to martial artist-turned-actor MARK DACASCOS, who does ALL his own stunts, and just plain steals this movie. I highly recommend this film for adventure, story, acting, "the view," and pure, raw excitement... and the aforementioned Mark Dacascos, who's finally going to get his well-deserved just desserts.
Dec. 23, 2001, 8:46 p.m. CST
I went into this film with an open mind here about 2 months ago and it seemed to be doing good for the first 20-40 minutes. There was a bit of suspense about it, was this beast real, is it a conspiracy etc etc.....then it got shite. The film is FAR too long, they could have left out a good 45 minutes of it and the thing cant decide if it wants to be a cult, epic or action movie. The director needed to be told enough was enough and obviously no one on his creative team had the balls to do it. Harry, you cant honestly think this was a quality movie?! Theres no other word for it....PANTS
Dec. 24, 2001, 4:17 a.m. CST
Saw FOTR on Saturday,and really couldn't see what all the fuss was about. It looked great and the performances were excelent but it just left me cold. Having read the book a few years ago there was a feeling that the whole movie felt a few degrees off pitch and swung wildly off the mark in scenes like Gandalf and Saruman's battle (how fucking Jerry Springer was that?) and Galadrial's scenes, she was less the powerfull beauty of Lothlorien than a creepy OTT panto witch. Brotherhood of the Wolf however is so perfectly on pitch it is unreal, how anybody thought they could make a Period,kung fu, horror, action thriller work amazes me, that they did amazes me more. It is one of those movies like Moulin Rouge that when you try to explain it to people you can't help but make it sound crap because on paper it shouldn't work, but triumphs through the will of a brilliant director whose sheer style carrys it through. Go see it, it kicks FOTR up and down the pitch!
Dec. 24, 2001, 5:49 a.m. CST
One thing I've learned about film is that one man's Fellowship is another man's Krull. I really liked BOTW, but I didn't like CTHD much (relax, Angel's Egg, think of your heart!). So, if you think there's ONE THING about a film you might enjoy, you might as well take a chance. Critics are full of shit, they just want to sound impressive. Fans are biased, or just plain ignorant. My advice to anyone going to see BOTW: relax and enjoy the movie.
Dec. 24, 2001, 4:44 p.m. CST
Yeah, pretty much agree - effective fight scenes, pretty lush visuals, nice characterisation and a damn sight more imagination than most action films, but - waaaaay too long (I'd actually say they could have cut down on fight scenes), and, even for a French film, a lot of the plot developments made absolutely no sense. Also, the CGI didn't gel properly with the rest of the film. But that didn't really matter. It has the best psycho peasants since the hey-day of Hammer. And it really got my heart racing. Mark Dacascos' bare buttocks were a bit gratuitous. Brothel scenes entirely aristically justified.
Dec. 24, 2001, 8:16 p.m. CST
My g/f liked the view of Mark Dacascos's buttocks even more than I liked the frequent flash of quim. I agree, more brothel scenes in future films, especially ones by George Lucas or Ang Lee! Merry Christmas, BTW. Too excited to sleep....