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Ed Norton To Play John Connor in T3'
Hey folks, Harry here... Well, if this is true, then dear God that's cool.... We'll have to wait and see if it gets confirmed before getting too excited... I'm already checking around! Here ya go...
Thought you migh be interested in this little nugget. According to the Guardian website ( http://www.guardian.co.uk ) here in sunny Britain, Edward Norton is to play John Connor in the new Terminator movie, which is set ten years after the first installment. Hope this was of some use.
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Shit! Do I actually have to see this now?
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If there's any validity to that, T3 has just scored some brownie points from me.
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Now all they need to do is convince Arnie not to do it.
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Don't you mean this is supposed to take place 10 years after the second installment.
Wasn't John Conner like 13 years old in Terminator II already? Having Conner be about 23 years old in the T3 would be about right to go along with Norton starring.
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Ed Norton would chew some serious scenery!
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With all due respect to Edward Norton, one of my favorite actors, what's wrong with Edward Furlong playing the role of, and being recognized as, the person he played in T2? Although, admittedly, I have greater confidence in Norton's abilities of pulling the role off..
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Now let's see,Edward Furlong's already signed for the movie,which takes place supposedly 10 years after T2,Michael Edwards played him at age 44 in T2,and now Edward Norton is going to play John Conner in his early 20s? So if both Furlong and Norton are in the movie,does that mean the movie will go back and forth in time showing both young and older Conner? Or is Furlong playing him 10 years after T2 in his early 20s,and Norton playing an even further future Conner,who was already played by Michael Edwards,who...OH MY LORD-MY BRAIN IS BURSTING!!!!
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Dec 06, 2001 1:23:13 PM CST
Are you guys fucking stupid? (and I am referring to both talkba
by jonquixote
Did any of you actually read the article? Painfully obvious that the moron writer simply typed Norton when he meant Furlong. Grab...a...brain!
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Please this is a lie. Look at his work, the guy does high scale stuff, and although I'm sure that T3 will have this huge budget, it's sure to not do as well as the two before. Needless wonderings from some crazed loon. Look at what he did in American History X...do you think he won't try to take control if the script is bad, or the director isn't doing what he likes...too much bad stuff surrounding this thing
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I don't know how many of you visit other movie sites, but am I the only one who saw the report that Ralph Fiennes is playing Dollarhyde in Red Dragon? It's on like three fucking sites since yesterday. So we get this shit from Harry but not that? What the Fuck!?
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Well, if it's in an ENGLISH newspaper, it must be true. Their journalistic integrity is beyond reproauch. Was this story between page with the toppless girl and the story about Prince Charles being a crossdresser???
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Norton was the first name to pop into my head when T3 was announced so long ago...
Maybe the fact that Norton is onboard means that there's a good script behind this?
Norton isn't stupid. He already has exposure, so he doesn't need to gain anything from doing a big budget movie like this. So it must be a good script.
It must be...
...don't let it be bad
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I like Ed Norton, think he's an unbelievable actor. But this makes me wonder what type of direction this movie has. Basically he is too old, and I don't see him in the part. Sorry. I can't be asked to think outside the box here. Especially when I believe they shouldn't even bother with a T3. Seriously.
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Hows about... Michael Biehn as the clone of John Connor's natural father? Kind of like the father he never had only now re-instated in human form.
It could all be about a boy who's had a fatherless/time travelling Terminator killing machine childhood teaching his clone replacement how to 'be a dad' whilst learning something of his deeper self in the process. A good title might be 'Terminator 3: Reconnections'.
I for one would prefer this to all those explosions etc. that, frankly, have been done to death. -
Methinks young sire Linkin hath a few wires crossed in yon young nogging of his. Or elst, he be a skulduggerous troll, hoping for a bite so he may have a laugh at some poor gentle's expense.
As for master Norton being in this flick, he hath wrought some of mine favorite movies in the last few years, and I am wont to believe his acceptance of such an arduous task as acting for yon master of the Titanic or any of his foul henchmen. -
Being that the third installment is ten years later, and T2 was ten years ago, it would make all the sense in the world for Eddie Furlong to play his original role, since he's TEN YEARS OLDER!
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I hope LPR's post was supposed to be ironic. If not, I'm not even gonna waste my breath explaining why that was one of more retarded & uninformed posts I've ever read.
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YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE! Second rule of Terminator 3 is YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE! HIS NAME WAS KYLE REESE! HIS NAME WAS KYLE REESE! HIS NAME WAS KYLE REESE!
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As much as I would love for this to be true I don't see it happening. Our only hope is that Furlong continues to screw up like when he got arrested out here in L.A twice in one day! However, he is banging the hot vulcan chick from the new Star Trek. How can she be a vulcan when boffing that guy is so illogical!?
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Ed Norton has said before that he would never play a part in films such as this. He stated that what he looks for in a part is a challenge and a good script. You will never see him in T3, but you may fantasise how much you want. He is just too good an actor to appear in this.
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Edward Norton is in the upcoming Red Dragon, which starts shooting next month. T3 is set to start sometime in April or May. So, unless Norton finishes his work on RD in three months, he won't be doing T3. Besides, last time I heard, Furlong was already signed. Also, as far as the plot is concerned, no one knows what's in the latest version of the script. There's only two copies and the producers have them under lock and key.
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Since both of them became stars, people have been mixing up Edward Norton and Edward Furlong. I've met a lot of people that will be talking about Furlong and slip and say Norton, because his name is the more recognizable. This isn't news--just another example of the brilliant and accurate reporting of the British entertainment press.
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Yeah, after reading more of the talkback, how could Harry even give this statement any credence, knowing that Norton's preparing for Red Dragon. Ralph Fiennes as a twisted serial killer, now THAT'S breaking movie news.
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You must be under 14... to say that T2's Effects are unimpressive is a statement of naivity. T2 was made in 1990/91, and was revolutionary in visual fx; just as the original Terminator was revolutionary in stop-motion. - Don't knock the work of those who contributed so much. We've come a long way, but that movie still really impresses. Since 3D and compositing is at a point now where almost anything is possible, we will never be as astounded as we were when we first saw Robert Patrick morph into liquid metal. And speaking of liquid metal, that character was an improvement on the "water weenie" that was created for the Abyss by Digital Domain and James Cameron - the director of BOTH films. Do your research, before you bitch about bullshit, retard.
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Based on what Harry has said in previous articles, I hope that Ed Norton himself rewrites the script. I don't know about a T3 film that doesn't have James Cameron at least helping to shape the story.
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That was freaking genius! I'm still laughing! :D
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. . . for being the hundredth person to reference the Big Lebowski today. ----------------------------------the movie is fantastic and every bit as good as the Philip Marlowe classics which it satirises (probably better than Dead Men Don't wear Plaid) BUT WHY OH WHY DIDN'T THE COENS ACTUALLY THINK OF AN ENDING. The film just stops suddenly, and you're left feeling extremely hollow and empty. Its a shame.
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Just a little correction for you dude. The effects for Abyss and T2 were done by ILM not Digital Domain. Digital Domain started with True Lies. I agree Linkin Park is a complete fucking retard, so no offense ment to you.
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Seems to me the guy got Norton and Furlong confused. Furlong makes much more sense. And what's this about Peter Jenkins directing? Can't wait -- such a fan! :O)
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Dec 06, 2001 4:52:38 PM CST
HARRY: Why did you post this nonsense but you didn't post th
by cash bailey
Where's your priorities, man?
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Harry, did you even read the article? It was obviously culled together in about five minutes from the various movie rumor sites, and I'm fairly sure the Ed Norton reference came from the author reading that it starred "that kid from American History X." Goddammit, I can't believe retards who write articles like that get jobs. I hope the ass loses his over such a glaring error.
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...Professor Slocombe, resident of The Butts Estate, Brentford I believe!
Truly I am impressed
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You're right about the ILM bit... an old habit of associating everything Cameron does with ILM... thanks.
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Dec 06, 2001 5:42:12 PM CST
about as likely as Julia Roberts playing the love interest in Au
by jason blood
Cripes.
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Ed Norton??? Ugh. Looks like the machines win after all. HEY HARRY...I DON'T MIND POPUP ADS (YOU HAVE TO MAKE A LIVING) BUT THAT ONE THAT AUTOMATICALLY LAUNCHES A DOWNLOAD TO YOUR SYSTEM IS A BAD MOVE! ESPECIALLY WITH THE VIRUS PARANOIA OUT THERE! Sorry, wasn't yelling Really. ;)
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What next? Lord of the Rings has a bad review? It weakens this site to see such bullshit being called news.
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Ive seen this before on another site, They comfused Furlong with Norton. Because they both have the same name i guess.
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Whoa.... wait a minute. How can Ed Norton be Edward Furlong ten years after Terminator 2? Edward Furlong got shot by that black kid in the toilets just before he was about to hand in his clever essay about American History X, didn't he? It would make no sense, Norton attended his funeral and everything and wept for the brutal death that had befallen his younger, somewhat- less-talented-as-an-actor brother.
And before anyone else sings about the wonder of Ed Norton can I just say three words: Keeping The Faith. A 2 hour insult to the senses that had me reaching for the creosote. -
"James Cameron sold his rights in the property to the first Terminator's co-writer and producer Gale Anne Hurd for $1 on the condition that T3 would only be made with Mostow at the helm." (The Guardian). So are mostow and Cameron friends or something?
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I dont think He should be wasting his talent on a movie doomed to fail but if hes in it Ill go see it. I cant wait to see death to Smoochy.
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He may not be right for T3 but I think your stepping into neck deep shit questioning Ed Norton's acting ability. He got nominated for his first film role in Primal Fear which was brilliant; nominated again for American History X, which beyond an incredible physical transformation was a powerful performance; add to that his roles in Rounders (a marginal movie but good performance), ...Larry Flynt, Everyone Says I Love You and the upcoming Death to Smoochy and you have a pretty solid body of work for a guy who hasn't been in the business that long. Calling Fight Club a "bland" performance? That's a gross description of a very layered performance. People wouldn't be calling him the best actor of his generation if he were doing Scooby Doo.
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Death to Smoochie will be a classic. Terminator 3 on the other hand is just an extra pay check for Arnie being as he actually knows now that he was never an actor, more like a retard. Terminator shouldve stopped with the first one, which was a good film.
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Dec 06, 2001 7:27:35 PM CST
no more TERMINATOR films please! the 2nd one was a masterpiece,
by mooncake
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i enjoy ed norton's acting very much, but Keeping the Faith was awful, and The Score was a total waste of time and talent. American History X is an average movie, but it's only strengths lie within Norton's talents, which seems to be a pattern he has. too good for the movies he picks.
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Norton's quote on The Score was "some movies you do just for the poster". How do you pass up doing a movie with Deniro and Brando? As far as Keeping The Faith, I think awful is a strong word. You also have to remember Norton not only starred in the film, but was a first time producer/director on the project as well. It was a dedication to his mother who died from a brain tumor...so, maybe there needs to be a little slack cut there. Anyway, I agree that not all the movies he has done have been stellar, but no actor is going to hit it out of the ballpark everytime (re Pacino in the awful Revolution movie, Deniro in Rocky and Bullwinkle, Brando in everything since Apocalypse Now...)
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NO OTHER female in the world could play the 'Terminatrix' than DEMI MOORE! Demi is HOT, HARDCORE, TOUGH, SEXY, her voice is awesome! She is tough! She has star power! GIVE IT UP!!!
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He's aged. Unless of course he's just a complete burn out.
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You wanna give this unknown a huge role like that? Hell, even on the special edition we barely heard him speak.
Unknowns can be good gambles and should have been used in the new Star Wars films, but here?... Not so sure. Maybe Edwards is a good actor, but we have no way to gauge that.
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this is what it says:
Arnie picks up record payout for Terminator 3
Thursday December 6, 2001
The third Terminator film will at last start filming next April under the directorial helm of Jonathan Mostow, with Arnold Schwarzenegger again in the lead role of the T-800 cyborg. Set ten years after T2: Judgement Day, the film will find John Connor (played by Ed Norton) and his cyborg protector up against a female Terminator, a Terminatrix of sorts, whose powers and morphing abilities outdo anything seen before. For his role in the film, Schwarzenegger will be paid an estimated $30m ( -
"James Cameron sold his rights in the property to the first Terminator's co-writer and producer Gale Anne Hurd for $1 on the condition that T3 would only be made with Mostow at the helm." If that was direct quote, then boy, did they EVER get that one wrong. That's just a really bad re-appropriation of anecdotal history from the first Terminator flick. The story goes: After Cameron went through hell with the Executive Producer of "Piranha 2," he wanted to ensure absolute control over his next film, The Terminator. So when he sold the script to Gale Ann Hurd, he did so under the condition that she would produce it and ONLY he would direct it. He wanted the two of them at the reins and no one else. She agreed and he sold it to her for a buck under those conditions. Now at this point in time, 18 years later, Hurd has no rights at all to the franchise and regrettably, neither does Cameron. When Hemdale (the studio that produced T1,) went under, the rights were split between Hurd and Carolco Pictures; essentially, Mario Kassar and Andy Vanja. Some years ago, Hurd sold her share of the property, Carolco went bankrupt, the entire thing went on the auction block, and even though Cameron talked with Vanja about the two of them picking up the whole enchilada together, Vanja went behind Jim's back and bought the entire property without saying a thing to Jim about it. (THAT's the reason why Cameron will have nothing to do with T3, BTW. I'm so sick of people saying Cameron's stupid for not "stepping in" to direct the flick.) Anyway, the long and short of it is, the article totally screwed the pooch if that's what they claimed happened. Hurd had nothing at all to do with anything on this production, let alone the decision of who directs. And I have no clue if Jim and Mostow are friends, but I can guarantee you he wouldn't have given up the Terminator franchise NOW for a buck, no matter WHO else was set to direct.
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yea, thats what the stupid site says. they dont even know the difference between ed norton and ed furlong
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Now don't get me wrong,I think Ed Norton is a great actor but I don't think he can play a 10 year old.Ya friggin idjits!!!!
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I'm not even going to bother
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My God, man! It's a typo, not even a rumor!
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Can't wait to see Art Carny in this!
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I am a cyberneticaly enhanced elderly gentleman with saggy man boobs. Fear me.
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Dang, THAT'S what I call information. Good job, bwoy .. good job!
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This is hilarious. One minor typo on The Guardian website (not a tabloid paper at all, but nevertheless well known in the UK for their typos) sets off a storm of dumb squealing over here.
Anyone would have thought the writer had anally raped your grandmothers while pouring sugar in your gas tanks. It was a mistake, a very human condition you'll find, live with it. -
If there's one thing I can do well, it's discussing the career history of the mighty JC. (Ad nauseum.)
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Jesus Christ, Harry... I know some of us always said you should stop criticizing and start making movies of your own, but... it sounds like like you just ripped this mother off those kids' books! What a fucking hack you must be! Have you no original thoughts of your own?! I mean, whoop-dee-doo, it's number one now, but... when it comes down to it, Harry, when you copy other peoples' work... you're only cheating YOURSELF. (Or is it "you're only CHEETING yourself?")
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Seriously? I have no idea where "Has a beer and cheets" comes from? Am I not cool? Oh, wait, what I meant to ask is "Am I cool?" Seriously, what is that?
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The Terminator goes through the wrong porthole and ends up plugging into the Matrix. He meets Agent Smith and likes the cut of his gib. So much so that Agent Smith morphs into the Woman in the Red Dress, and the two spawn a replica of Robin Williams in Bicentennial Man, who overloads Neo with lame ass "Na-no, Na-no Humor" and not funny non sequitors. "Shazbat! I should have taken that fucking BLUE PILL!" We'll call it The THE TERMINATRIX! It'll kick Harry Potter's prepubescent, pimply ass!
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if we were smart, we would stop wasting our time bitching about this. T3 is a waste. everyone knows it. of course Norton would rule, but its useless anyway cuz he aint that stupid. end of story.
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Dec 07, 2001 9:32:35 PM CST
Purple Toup: The ever-elusive source to Beer Cheeting...
by llghtst0rmer
Actually, people have been asking about this for the entire week. "What the hell is this cheet crap?" Well, it all started here: >> http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=9819 << If you just want the Cliff Notes version, though, it came from this fanboy review of a draft of one of the new Batman films. The guy reviewing the script apparently had no grasp whatsoever of the English language, nor any clue how to run a spell-check. He repeatedly referred to recurring scenes in the screenplay where Commissioner Gordon "HAS A BEER AND CHEETS [sic] ON HIS WIFE." He either found it so repetetive or so blasphemous that he made a point to write it all in caps (with the same bad spelling) every time. When the Talkbackers pounced on the review, they showed no love for the script, the writers, nor, least of all, the reviewer. And thus it was started. And now it seems to be AICN's very own "All your base..." mantra. Personally, I'd like to see the phrase "Go away, bird teacher; I've had enough" spread like wildfire, but it's a big site and I'm but a small voice.
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Dec 07, 2001 9:35:01 PM CST
This just in... according to the Guardian, "Attack of the Clones
by llghtst0rmer
Now why the hell didn't they ever mention THAT little detail on StarWars.com???
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that *seth green* was being considered for the role of john connor.
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=9990
not that i don't like seth green or edward norton, but come on. they're both ridiculous choices for one reason (or ten) or another. when's he gonna get a lackey who's job it is to check these things out first? -
Ed Norton is without a doubt one of the best actors around.
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If it aint Cameron it aint Terminator. "Sentient Frequency Matter"... Anyone ever notice how much radical R&D old SkyNet did in its final days? "Female Terminators"? On the one hand it makes sense that there would be some, but then again the only T-800s we've seen so far have looked like ripped bodybuilers. This makes sense from the SkyNet aesthesic point of view, it sees humans as inferior to itself and if IT MUST go around dressed as one it might as well go dressed as a perfect example of the best the species has to offer in terms of rugged lastability. If the Terminator is again to be sent back in time why not send him back to 1857 and have him either lie in wait or start building steampunk tech? OR Just give us the FBI chase for the Conners and the Dysons; no way are their records untarnished after T2. They could attempt to break into Cheyenne mountain military complex just as in the future SkyNet emails a copy of itself down the timestream awakening with full knowledge of the future to be. A Terminator could send itself back a few times to destroy SkyNet each time it fails its mission creating a "Groundhog Day"-like repeat, repeat, repeat scenario where it just waits until walks into SkyNet to be refleshed and resent through time to start again. I see Terminator dogs being sent back, fleshbags filled with phased plasma rifles, huge fights using many of the T-70 Terminators and the liquid metal T-Meg etc, etc, etc. All cool stuff for sure but do we really need another Terminator movie? How long before they set one in space? That's usually left for number 4 in a series. They could turn it into a TV series combining the concepts of TimeCop with The Terminator: SkyNet keeps sending back armies of 'naters which Conner's troops have to go back in time, to different eras and countries, to stop before they cause to many ripples in the timefield or something. Boy I just read back over this and it sure sounds like I'm typing with one hand, I should be a Hollywood producer. I think I oughta do a scene-for-scene colour remake of "The Third Man" I'll have to drop the "The" (too wordy) and call it "Th3rdMan" it'll star Guy Pearce as Holly Martins and Denzel Washington as Harry Lime. I'll have to update the story from post World War II Vienna to post Third World/2nd American Civil War South Central. That way we can get a lot of hip'n'cool funky R&B rap and techno tunes on the CD. Oh just think of the action figure and T-shirt sales alone. Ah FuckIt I'll probably go and see "Terminator 3" even if it stars Eric Roberts, Frank Stallone, Don Swayze, Chad Lowe, Joey Travolta, Clint Howard and Roger Clinton.
Harry Lime: Using the internet as it was originally intended to be used - for the further research of pornography and pipebombs. -
It only takes a spark to get a fire going....
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Dec 09, 2001 7:01:53 AM CST
Incidentally, if anyone wants to learn the source of the "Bird T
by llghtst0rmer
... you can find it here: -- http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=10961 -- Enjoy! (Better learn it now before everyone else runs with it and you're left scratching your head.)
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Try: http://www.aintitcool.com/tb_display.cgi?id=10961#376563 --That'll do the trick.
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Excuse me but isn't this movie set 10yrs after t2 ,when john conner was 11.ed norton sure a damn fine actor but isn't he like 30yrs old!!!
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They should keep Furlong, he was good in T2. But if Norton gets it, does that mean he gets to bang T'Pol now too?
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Finally, I have created one theory to combine Terminator with Star Trek. Do I get a No-Prize now?
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Think about this. Furlong is John Connor at 20, right? But Norton is Connor at 30, coming to assist himself because Arnold and Vin Diesel are two terminators joining forces to finish this kid off once and for all. And since Reece is done, and Sarah, well badass or no, she's still a little stressed and tends to freak in overwhelming situations. Put Furlong on a weightlifting program and pump him full of Androstenedione, and Norton (after seeing Am. His. X) can obviously rise to the physical occassion. I know. Arnold is the hero now. He can't go back to being a bad guy. Sure he can. Just program the new one to kill John Connor... or not
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This seems a little strange; recently as 1998, Norton played Furlongs older brother in American History X. Now he will replace him? Strange. I am a huge fan of Nortons and somewhat of a fan of T2 so I would love this movie if Norton did pick up the role... but it seems very doubtful.
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OK, the first terminator takes place in 1984. The second one takes place in 1991. Yet John Connor is about 12 in Terminator 2. This is fucking weird, and it's been bothering the hell out of me for a long time. For a little bit, I tried pretending that T2 takes place in the future...but the beginning of T2 says the machines get smart in 1997, and at one point in the movie Ah-nuld talks about how the machines become self aware "in six years."
All this said, is it really so unthinkable that there would be more time consistencies later? However, this Ed Norton rumor is shit. I seriously doubt it. The first two were damn good movies, but i have no desire to see this. -
'Some movies you just do for the poster' - Ed Norton.
'Edward Norton made Keeping The Faith as a tribute to his mother who died of a brain tumour, was feeling bereaved and it turned out to be a two hour priest and rabbi joke with no punchline and no joke' - Me.
De Niro got into real estate and signed to 'We're No Angels', Pacino got bored and did 'Sea Of Love' and Brando got depressed and did 'Don Juan De Marco'.
Ed Norton is just another 'intense' white middle class actor waiting for a white middle class reason to piss any talent he may actually possess down the Hollywood latrine.
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would this be considered as JUMPING THE SHARK?
HEY NORTON! -
1. You can't predict nor presently proclaim shark jumpage. To accurately identify the location of a shark jump, you need to see every film/album/whatever spanning a full, complete, (dead or retired) career. It pisses me off when I hear "Yeah, when Ben Stiller made that face in Zoolander he jumped..." So I guess you're not allowed to ever see any of his movies ever again, since you know they all suck and you wouldn't dare endanger your Talkback cred!!!
(This is the longest lesson. Skip it if you never have or will snottily proclaim that a badly edited ten second spot proves that Joel, the announcer for Late Night, has jumped the shark.)
Proper:
"I love Black Sabbath, but they jumped the shark big time when they kicked out Ozzy."
Improper:
"I saw one bad episode of the Simpons, and although it is the greatest show ever, this one episode (which was a rerun from the third season) was a shark jump and a half."
NB: The Simpsons did in fact jump the shark in the "Springfield Gorge" episode. Actually, the stuntman jumped great white sharks, electric eels, alligators, pirahna, and a lion.
One more...
Proper:
"MST3K jumped the shark when Dr. Forrester jumped ship. They should have junked Crow and built a new bot."
Improper:
"Although Beck hasn't released an album in a few years, his appearance on Futurama counts as two shark jumps! Two!!
2. Female Terminators make sense. In the original film Reese describes the concept of terminators as robots who are designed to INFILTRATE and therefore should BLEND. A handful of Arnies wouldn't. Sure, it reeks of
exploitation, but shouldn't HAL, er, Cyberdyne improve its designs?
3. I agree, it's a typo or something similar.
4. I liked Keeping the Faith. Call me a putrid slop-swilling philistine, I don't care. What did you expect, anyway?? If you don't THINK you're going to like a movie, DON'T SEE IT. We could have prevented a "Kiss the Girls" sequel, people!!
5. New flash: Trey Anastasio of Phish is taking over all the voices on South Park. Call Rolling Stone!!!
6. All your beer are belong to us. -
Don't flame me, but I just wanted to point out that The Guardian is a broadsheet newspaper, not a tabloid.
Of course, they could still be wrong, but they're not the gutter press.
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