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Has Paramount Pictures Lost The Rights To A 4th INDIANA JONES Film'
Has the last stumbling block been removed that was halting movement on the fourth Indiana Jones film? Have all the 'script problems' merely been a ruse to play the waiting game so that Lucas and Spielberg could take the Franchise elsewhere? Will an Indy movie be an Indy movie if it doesn't start with the Paramount Logo? Won't that screw up gigantic BOX SET issues in regards to the DVD releases? Inquiring minds like mine wanna know. We are digging further into this story, we will see...
Dear Mr. Knowles,
I have just received some new info that will answer some questions to the
Indy/Paramount contract situation.
Here's an updated version of the news message:
As we reported earlier that the unknown future of Indiana Jones 4 has been
under control by Paramount Studios for the past several years. In an
interview to Starlog and Empire Magazine Spielberg said "he and Lucas are
having problems with Paramount in getting the fourth Indiana Jones
installment launched." It may be that those problems are finally coming to
an end.
According to our reliable tipster who has send us accurate information in
the past reveals that the 20 year, dated Nov 81,Indiana Jones sequel rights
contract with Paramount Pictures has just expired. What does that mean?
Lucas can take it wherever he wants, whenever he wants. Maybe DreamWorks
fits into the picture. The video rights to the first three movies still
remain with Paramount, unless George wants to buy them back With no contract
in place, there will be no movement on anything, except possibly DVDs.
Please stay tuned as we get more information in the near future.
Sincerely,
Gilles Verschuere
Webmaster
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I still don't think they should make a Jones 4. It all seems to be going down hill anyway.
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I love 'em as much as anyone, but would we want to see another? Usual reasons: Ford's too old, no Marcus Brody, the ending of Last Crusade is the best place to draw the line etc. Remember what happened the last time we waited for the continuation of a beloved franchise? We could well end up with Indiana Jones and the Attack of the Phantom Menace Clones. Nein danke.
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remember that by the timer Indy 4 ever gets round to shooting he'll be older still.
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Dec 04, 2001 7:16:16 AM CST
put the old bag out of it's misery, terminate this franchise
by mooncake
they never know when to stop! just like aliens....they should NEVER had made any more after the 2nd one! let harrison ford shoot his next action movie in an old people's home & drop indianna jones 4
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Tut tut. You joyless naysayers. Indy 4 will happen because there's a generation that grew up being spoon-fed his adventures and we demand it. The point about Indy was that, no matter where he was, what he was doing, what age he was, he could never help getting neck-deep in shit. It was his nature and his curse. No reason to believe that would ever stop, whatever age he was. Hell, even on his deathbed there'd probably still be aged Nazis trying to steal his teeth. Here's what I say -- an Indy in his fifties is still Indy. He may be slowed down but he can still shoot people, drive fast, fail at flying planes and find rare ancient stuff. He may need the help of some sidekick; he may not. But if Connery could still tear around and be entertaining in the Last Crusade (and to all you people who are suddenly bashing it -- what the fuck??) then no reason why Harry Ford can't. I guess what I'm saying is: I'll stand in line to see it.
Let's see him die this time in a blaze of glory, and let's have a story that somehow spans the length of his life. But most of all, let's see the hat and the whip one final time and wrap it up with some gusto!
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personally, i don't care if any of you bitter losers doesn't want to see another indiana jones movie. it is amusing to see your words vomiting across the screen with smug futility. talking big from whatever surrounding encompasses your pathetic existence, it makes no difference, and neither do your comments. if they decide to go ahead with another indiana jones, what is the worst that could happen? it could "suck". but, it could also be "kick ass." so, wouldn't it be worth the possibility of a "kick ass" movie, even at the risk of one that "sucks." i hope that was logic you could understand. actually, i hope you couldn't, because that would be funny. yeah, episode one was generally bad, but i still got chills and smiled the first time i watched it. then the novelty wore off and i realized how bad it was. the same thing happened with the first trilogy, and the same thing will happen with the subsequent enstallments. i'll remember them as being good, and when i watch them i'll simply ignore all of the gratingly bad parts to the best of my ability. they're part of my childhood and i look forward to episode two, realizing the same aforementioned process. nothing new for a star wars film. their quality hasn't changed (other than production values and actors themselves, if not the acting), we have. now the indiana jones movies, which during a recent sporadic viewing, were still good fucking movies. solid acting across the board, atmospheric, funny, gritty, charming, violent, exciting, layered movies. characters with multiple facets to their personalities. i mean, this isn't the taxi driver but within the action adventure ridiculous nazi fighting face melting mayhem, i actually enjoyed the characterizations as well. now, my point is, is that there's no reason to assume the series would go from wonderful to suck in 12 years, considering speilberg can still be a good director. i'd watch another indy movie, with promise of being fucking good, and at risk of sucking. why the fuck not? what have you got to lose? 8 dollars (and the ever lacking self respect?)
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Didn't Clint Eastwood still look like Clint Eastwood in "Unforgiven"? Sure, Indy might not be able to duke in out with the average Nazi without risking a broken hip, but there was more to Indy than just fighting. Like all of us, Indy just has to rely more on cunning and than on brawn as he ages. If you think about it, Ford is now about the age that Connery was when Last Crusade came out. Sure he was older, but he still held his own.
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Set IV in Tibet during the Chinese invasion, or in Korea during the war.
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Hmmm... yeah Ford's old. Maybe Jar Jar could replace him.
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Ok, they made some good movies. But they are bullies. Since, they have trouble developing a lot of their own material they have to 'play the Spielberg card' and get studios to give them half of the movies that other studios have developed (ex. Private Ryan). Spielberg is such a colossial fucking pussy, he tries to play Mr. Nice Guy Filmaker but then has people like Walter Parkes run roughshod over filmmakers (read Jeffrey Wells article on Almost Famous) because Spielberg won't dirty his hands. HE's an jerkoff, and losing his touch as a filmmaker (AI was garbage, I dont care what anyone says.) And is there a more despicable person in the world than David Geffen? Pretty sad when the most respectable person in the outfit is Katzenberg.
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Harrison Ford in an old age home thriller. Here's your pitch: "Die Hard in an old age home. Ford takes on some greedy developers who want to take out the inhabitants of an old age because there is Nazi gold buried on the premises. Of course, the day is saved when the aliens from Cocoon show up, with Steve Guttenberg in tow, and give Ford a jolt of eternal life and laser guns to help in the fight." I'd pay eight bucks for that. Ford as Indy would be a joke, much like the old Barnaby Jones TV show: 80 year old Buddy Ebsen chasing down criminals. Someone mentioned Eastwood in Unforgiven. There is a huge difference, Eastwood's character wasn't expected to pull off the sort of stunts that we expect of Indy. I think a fourth Indy would work if it was made in the vain of Unforgiven, a more reflective piece, rather than pure action. Of course, I don't think George or Steven could pull off reflective.
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There's no way you can compare Ford doing a 4th Indy film to Clint Eastwood doing Unforgiven. In point of fact, Eastwood actually first read the script over a decade before the film went into production because he wanted to wait till he was old enough to play the role properly.
One of the main themes of Unforgiven is the age of the major protagonists - the age of the Western is, by extension, meant to have past.
Not that Ford couldn't pull off a more jaded, cynical Indy. But he'd couldn't just turn up and put in the same performance he did in the last 3.
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Yes. I'd be psyched if Paramount lost the rights. A different studio might push this project a little harder.
It has been a few years (12?) but the eventual filmmakers are not going to put Jones into situations in which he'll look like an old man. -
You realize how much it's going to cost against the movie's budget alone to have Harrison, Lucas and Spielberg on this project?
What the hell's it going to be about? Surely they don't intend to have Harrison at 60 years old running around kicking ass like he was before.
So...given the trend I have seen with Lucas and Spielberg, I definitely see a hack job ripping off elements from the other Indy films here.
Indy will kind of take the role that Connery filled in part 3. Comic relief with some action while he breaks someone new in and teaches them the ropes. Seriously, does anyone really want to see that?
Like Star Wars, I am waiting to see Lucas start working on "special editions" and "special, special editions" of these films as well.
We'll never see these or the SW Trilogy on DVD, at least not in the way we know them.
I am appalled at the blatant money grubbing Lucas is doing by retooling the SW Trilogy even more to run them through the friggin' theaters again?!?! Like he needs to make that much more money?!
Pardon this digression, but I wanted to make my point really clear and in the right context.
MY POINT:
I don't trust either Lucas or Spielberg anymore, so the idea of them ruining yet another beloved franchise makes me cringe with fear. There's way too much money and ego here to get something productive off the ground.
Like Star Wars, they are about 10 years too late to start working on this project. A fourth Indy film should have happened no later than, say, 1993.
It ended on a good note with Last Crusade! Leave it alone!
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I love the idea of an even more cynical, older Indy. They could do some kind of "pulled out of retirement thing for one last quest" or something. I definitely think Ford can pull it off. Why not at least hope they try? It's not like you hate the original Alien or A New Hope because some of the later chapters didn't live up to expectations, if anything, it makes you appreciate the earlier ones even more. If it sucks, oh well, like perusing this site isn't a bigger waste of your life than seeing a subpar sequal to some of the most entertaining movies of all time. I say, BRING IT ON!!!!
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Since Indiana drank thewater from the Holy Grail, does that make him immortal now? If so, seeing that he can't be killed, would that make the movie less fun, or would they just forget that aspect from his life?
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Dec 04, 2001 11:12:57 AM CST
First Lucas and Spielberg want to re-edit Raiders so that the Ar
by relayer
They don't like Harrison Ford's character to be too dark and mean. After all, he shot that guy in cold blood.
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In the new version of Raiders, all the Nazis will now carry walkie-talkies as opposed to guns. They want their kids to be able to watch the movie too, you know.
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Dec 04, 2001 11:28:24 AM CST
YWhat next, competing new Indiana Jones films from both Dreamwo
by arcturus
I liked this better the first time when the James Bond franchise went down this path. I can just see it now, Paramont re-making "Raiders" over and over again ala "Thunderball", (maybe Tom Seleck will finally get his chance, hope not) with Dreamworks issuing original Indy movies.
No, it won't be a real Indiana Jones film without the Paramont transforming logo, though. This is all b.s. posturing to give Dreamworks exclusive rights on the Indy franchise. -
if they make a fourth indiana jones movie i think they really need to have a younger actor but still keep sean connery because he was too young to be indianas father anyone cause they were only 10 years apart and why not have michael douglas as indy he was so so so cool in that stone sex movie and i havent read it because michael douglas isnt in the book.
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(Sorry about the double posting - mea culpa)
Indy IV will probably feature Indy meeting his illegitimate son who he had with Marion Ravenwood (forget Kate Capshaw - Marion is truly worthy of Indy) - the kid is truyly a chip off the old fedora and they team up with Gramps Connery and either visit Atlantis, aliens in Roswell or defeat time-traveling conquerors - then the fedora and whip are passed to the son, and the franchise keeps a'goin' - I would have thought Brendan Fraser would be the choice for Indy Jr., but he is all tied up with them Mummy films... Not Ben Affleck or Matt Damon... How about Haley Joel Osment (just kidding)... Anyway, I bet they will introduce Indy's heretofore unknown son (or daughter - hmmm - naw, that's Tomb Raider) - you watch - believe it... "I don't know, I'm making it up as I go"... -
Count me among those who wouldn't mind another Indy flick, as long as they acknowledge that we're dealing with an older Jones. More important, though, is how this affects a potential DVD of Raiders (and those other two also I suppose). The scoop said something about how this affect everything but DVD rights, but I want concrete information damn it. They've transferred a lot of crap to DVD, while classics (why the hell isn't Ikiru on DVD?) remain stuck only on video. I mean, damn it.
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I second relayer's notion. If they touch a single fucking frame of one of the very few perfect movies when they put them on DVD I will put a fatwa on the heads of all involved.
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There are so many ways that Lucas and Speilberg can make this film happen. For one thing, I will miss not seeing the Paramount logo before the 4th movie, if it ever happens. But if Dreamworks takes the rights, I wouldn't mind because the studio gave me Gladiator. Now, I can see Indy's son come with him on an adventure to Atlantis. Or I can see a new trilogy with a younger Indy, like Brendan Fraiser or Josh Harnett or Affleck. I would prefer Affleck because he is young and sorta resembles Harrison. Have Sean Connery still be the father, and Salha (sp) provide them with camels. I will miss the actor who was Marcus Brody. That dude was one innocent and funny museum cureator. Also, bring Tom Selleck in as the badass brother who wants to find Atlantis' power before Indy does. IMHO
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.... would be a terrible idea....
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Please, for God's sake, don't make a 4th movie! I remember reading about the possibility of a 4th film (possibly to be directed by Frank Marshall - remember that?) around the same time that OJ Simpson was arrested . . . SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS AGO! It sounded cool back then, but now it's just pitiful.
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Instead of a new film, they should have re-released RAIDERS for its 20th anniversary. Hopefully, they'll come to their senses and re-release it for the 25th anniversary (too long to wait!), but then Lucas & Spielberg will probably decide that it needs to be "fixed" in certain spots. Remember that these are the guys who decided that the reissue VHS & DVD had be to renamed "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark" just so the three tapes in the box set would match. When will these guys come to their senses and figure out that we don't want "improved" movies with Greedo shooting first and cops holding walkie-talkies? We want the films of our childhood, the films we love and cherish. Restore the picture and sound, sure, who doesn't want the best looking and sounding film possible? But don't mess with the content.
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nah im just kidding , i like all three indy movie , but its about damn time they make this one , but this is unlikely to happen until LUCAS finis the prequel trylogy and old spielberg finish replacing the gun by walkie talkie in his E.T.SPECIAL EDITION dont count on it until what 2006 ? at least .
Gave us the trilogy on dvd before the fourth movie is made cause i dont want to wait this long !
by The way with lucas planning to do another relase with the old sw trilogy in 2006 dont count on a sw trilogy dvd until 2008 !
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The only way an Indiana Jones 4 could work is if Spielburg and Lucas do something that Lucas, at least, has been avoiding: confront the mortality of their creation.
Heroes have to die. It's part of the job description -- they put their life on their line, they fight for what's right -- but then they take that final risk. Dying proves that they're human -- pretty much their only connection to us slobs sitting in the movie seats.
That's what Lucas needs to do before his job with Star Wars is over -- he needs to show us the death of Luke Skywalker. And that's what Spielburg and Lucas need to do if there's an Indy 4: show us Indy's last stand.
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Make the movie if it's a good movie. And if it's bad (which would be hard for it to be -- I even loved 'Temple of Doom'), it will in no way affect my love for the first three. They will always be the "Indiana Jones Trilogy", whether or not there's a fourth film. I've never seen Indy on the big screen, and I would be ecstatic for that opportunity. They could make it a bookend to the series, with an epilogue similar to 'Last Crusade's' opening, hinting at the continuing adventures of Indy's son while the aged archeologist hangs up his bull-whip for good. It might be apocryphal, it might be outside the untouchable character of Indiana Jones, but if it's a good film, by all means DO IT ALREADY.
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Dec 04, 2001 10:18:32 PM CST
People say Bruce Campbell is too old to play Ash again - yet eve
by elgyn6655321
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Because according to the young Indiana Jones adventures , he's still around now as an old git with an eye patch.So the most that can happen ,is a Nazi poke him in the eye!, .As for the Main news of his Aicn item.Surely Lucus isn't such a money grabber , that he's simply been waiting until all the rights to the character, return to him .It sounds possible ..I read ,just before work started on P.M. That the rights to produce toys based on stars wars characters had just run out...and everyone interested in manufactoring SW merchandise ,had to renogotiate under Lucas' terms.Forget waiting for technology to catch up{There was nothing in Menace {story wise} that couldn't have been achieved using the technology available five years earlier, It wouldn't have looked the same .but the story would have been told.Jar Jar would have ended up looking like one of the father T-Rex's workmates in Hensons dinosaurs..but he did anyway!As for a fourth Indy film.I dunno .He was looking a bit old and tired at the end of the last one.These days Ford seems like, that shot to his head in *Regarding Henry *was for real.Plus the Raiders movie just seem so predictable and almost ritualistic{All feature a start that has little to do with the main story, then you get a bit of Dr Jones teaching etc ..then hes told about the artifact that has to be recovered etc,the heroes always have to escape the enemy agents in a foreign country and are later trapped with a room full of nasty animals/critters and so on .They all seem to end with a religious artifact opening to destroy /melt/punish the villians .The script to a proposed fourth film {the one used as the Atlantis themed LucasArts game} was following this formula to a T.Loved the first Raiders , the others had their moments, but showed how low things could sink in many places. Perhaps it should be left at that.
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Lucas does show us the mortality of his hero Anakin Skywalker who dies at the end of Return of the Jedi (Darth Vader dies when he watches Luke be attacked by the Emperor.)
Harrison Ford will be lucky to live long enough to perform Indy's death scene because the Young Indy TV series features that 99-year-old one-eyed Indy in the bookending scenes and Lucas considers the series canon. -
Watch all the indianna jones movies. See how Raiders was so great. How Temple was cool. And how Crusade re-captured (To a meritable degree) what raiders was. Now if Indi 4 is to take place then it must go along the lines of Temple of Doom. But the thing is. Todays world doesn't have the good guys and the bad guys distiguished by red turbins and blue turbins. The Nazi's wont be in it because (assuming we keep with Fords age) the film will be set over 10 years after the last film. I keep hearing Roswell would make a good adventure.... would it? I mean it's hardly an archeological adventure. Look. I love Indianna jones. I REALLY do. But another film? now? I just don't see it working.
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People, it's not like they require Jackie Chan-style stunts. Nobody's asking Harrison Ford to jump off a building. Ford himself has said it's all smoke and mirrors. Besides, I challenge you to go listen to the Raiders Theme, and they come back and say you wouldn't be pumped for a fourth movie. BRING IT ON!!
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Dec 05, 2001 4:14:46 AM CST
Do any of you "Lucas raped my childhood" assholes REALLY hate th
by cruel shoes
Can't you creatively edit those out of your mind and enjoy whatever the fuck it is you enjoy without pretending to alter the course of the most successful filmmakers in the the history of film's decisions? I love sequels like crazy, the more the better, the closer to a mythology the better, the more the original visionaries have to do with it the better. Make Indy MMCXXXVIII and I'll be there. You act like Speilberg's got a bad track record or something, or that Harrison Ford can't possibly stand in front of a blue screen at his age. You people suck almost as much as I do for talking back.
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We love that character, but I have no desire to see Indy grow old. A fourth film in the series would be nothing more than a tired remake with more special effects and less logic. Say what you want about The Phantom Menace, but at least Lucas was trying something new, not just making another film with Luke and the gang.
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Here's an idea. . .the original Indy trilogy was a tribute to 1930s-style adventure serials. Since Indy would be at least 15 years older than the last time we saw him, why not set the film in the 1950s and make it a tribute to the films of the era, with dark urban settings, leather-jacketed teenagers, and weird space monsters? And before anyone jumps down my throat, I AM joking. More or less.
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Didn't Indy and his father both drink from the Holy Grail, thus guaranteeing them immortality?
OK, so how about setting the film in the present day. Indy is now over 100 years old but looks to be in his 60s. He and Dad have to go and get an artifact from Afghanistan...
"Taliban. I hate these guys."
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What do you mean he's dead? Okay - Totally CGI River Phoenix in a pre-Temple of Doom prequel.
Who's with me?
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It's sounds a lot more promising than the fackin Mummy Returns...or Scorpion King...
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River Phoenix forfeited the role BEFORE he died morons. They did a continuation of Young Indy's adventures. It was called the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, it was a great show save for two or three flat comedic episodes. There are currently 12 90min tapes available. (Wish they'd do DVDs) I highly recommend "Oganga: The Giver and Taker of Life", "Young Indiana Jones and the Phantom Train of Doom", "The Trenches of Hell", "Young Indiana Jones and the Attack of the Hawkmen". and "Dare Devils of the Dessert" (with Cathrine Zeta-Jones). Devils, Phantom and Oganga where all written by Frank Darabont (who I wish was the writer on AOTC). While "Hawkmen" was written and directed by Ben Burt. I love the climax in Hawkmen when Indy accedently blows upo the Zepplin factory. It helped one to understand why Belloq saw that kind of thing as Indy's calling card. :)
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He's gonna need a walker and depends by they time they get this made.
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