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HERC Reviews X-FILES 9.2!!


What’s it called?

“Nothing Important Happened Today II.”

Who’s responsible?

Teleplay is again credited to Chris Carter and Frank Spotnitz.

What does TV Guide say?

“Conclusion. Reyes is defiant when questioned by Follmer about her activities with Doggett; Scully meets Shannon McMahon (Lucy Lawless), who offers an explanation of who she is.”

What is TV Guide not telling us?

There’s a ship. Docked in Baltimore. There’s a lab on board. Its captain inadvertantly reveals to the lone gunman Frohike, of all people, that there are “horrors” aboard.

Does the “previously on” clip package remain after the teaser and title credits?

It does.

Does the Lawless character drown Doggett?

She does. But she eventually un-drowns him with her magic underwater lips.

Does Doggett name her “Madison”?

Aquagirl already has a name: Shannon McMahon. McMahon served with Doggett in the Marines, and has gone on to become both a Department of Justice employee and a bio-engineered Aquagirl, the latter thanks to the government’s supersoldier program. She tells Doggett that she can’t be killed, and neither can another supersoldier recruited out of Bravo company, Knowle Rohrer.

Does Rohrer turn up this week?

He does.

Is Aquagirl evil?

Perhaps not. The men she killed, she says, were among those involved in contaminating the water supply. She says she hates who she is and tells Doggett that “the program’s expanding in ways no one ever dreamed of. I need your help to stop it, John.”

Can she breathe water (like a shark) or is she just super-good at holding her breath (like a dolphin)?

We don’t really learn.

What’s going on with Scully’s baby?

Scully tells Skinner her baby’s “not normal,” but declines to go into details. Listen carefully when the executive producer title comes on screen at episode’s end.

What do we learn about Mulder?

When Skinner advises Scully to advise Mulder of what’s going on, Scully shoots back: “Mulder can’t know. He can’t be brought back into this. He can’t be brought to the FBI. It’s just too dangerous for him right now.”

What’s going on with evil FBI supervisor Kersh?

The Kersh saga takes a strange turn at episode’s end. It is he who supplies the episode’s title: it turns out that “Nothing important happened today” is what King George III wrote in his diary on July 4, 1776.

What does Scully learn from her meeting with Aquagirl?

A chemical compound is being added to the water supply “to prime a population to breed a nation of supersoldiers,” explains Aquagirl. “Something which promotes the mutation of offspring in fertilization, in pregnancy.”

How does one recognize a supersoldier like Rohrer and Aquagirl?

The one thing they all have in common is that famous bump on the back of their necks.

So the Lone Gunmen turn up again?

They do. This time to visit Reyes.

Are they in the company of Jimmy and/or Yves?

Of course not.

Is Langley still blue?


What’s good?

The ending.

What’s not so good?

We don’t learn why Mulder has to go into hiding but Scully doesn’t; if evil forces really wanted Mulder, couldn’t they just hold Scully and her baby hostage? No sign of Lawless’s naked body-double this week. One wearies of all the dead ends the protagonists continue to run into week after week.

Herc’s rating for “The X-Files” 8.21?


The Hercules T. Strong Rating System:

  • ***** better than we deserve
  • **** better than most motion pictures
  • *** actually worth your valuable time
  • ** as horrible as most stuff on TV
  • * makes you quietly pray for bulletins

Beware the Triffids.

I am – Hercules!

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  • I love X-Files. I don't care what those naysayers say about how 'bad' the show has gotten. Get over it you stupid over-analyzing freeks! I have the pleasure to say that I will watch the Files with no regret over missing some 'babe' who has an alias duking it out with bad guys. That's all the show is! A babe who wants to kick some ass. Talk about a marketing tool to capture those young boys'/mens' attention spans. Scully has been doing it for 8 years, and the show has won Emmys. Ever wonder why it's still on? Because there are those loyal fans who will watch no matter what...just like me. Adios

  • Nov. 18, 2001, 5:49 p.m. CST


    by VarietyWriter

    Tonight is significant for X-Files and its future. If ABC's Run-Lola-Run-meets-La-Femme-Nikita series clobbers XF in the ratings, this could very well be the last season for the show -- FINALLY. XF is now a relic from a bygone era: the Clinton-era, darkness-before-the-dawn-of-the-new-millennium-paranoia of the 1990s. Frankly, 9-11 changed the pop culture zeitgeist of this nation; I don't think Americans are quite as comfortable or interested in watching a series that depicts government conspiracies, especially during this time of war and the fact there's a Republican as President now. (This is also the same reason why I expect 24 will tank, too.) If tonight's episode loses against Alias, I don't see how any of the subsequent episodes will manage to score higher in the ratings. I predict FOX will soon try Dark Angel out in XF's timeslot and they'll discover that this series will do better than XF and maybe match Alias in the ratings. If by some miracle XF is renewed for a 10th season, I foresee FOX moving it back to its Friday at 9/8C slot. This might not be so bad, without Gillian Anderson, I would suggest that Carter & Co. do away with all the government conspiracy/UFO bullshit and do the series as a supernatural investigations and scary technology stuff format (like what they were trying to do with Millennium in its 3rd and final season). That would be the best way to do X-Files from that point on: Like Millennium's Season 3 but without the coming-of-the-new-millennium angst. The characters of Doggett and Reyes would work best under this format.

  • Nov. 18, 2001, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Umm, does anyone still watch this show?

    by happywaffle

    Other than Z0D, I mean. I don't know how they even plan to do a second X-Files movie. The first one seemed to bring the whole giant conspiracy into focus; since then it's become the most rambling show on television.

  • Nov. 18, 2001, 6:01 p.m. CST

    "Millenniumizing" XF

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    I think Carter should do that too if XFiles goes for another season. Replace Frank Black with Doggett, and that African-American female agent from the third season of Millennium (totally forgot her name, sorry) with Reyes and I would watch. If it aired on Friday nights, funny enough I think I would be more interested in watching it then. I guess I like X Files more when it had an underdog status. I say take the revamping even further. move the X Files unit to Quantico. Don't have Skinner around anymore (yes I know he has fans but let's have a fresh start), nor the Lone Gunmen, Cancer Man, Kersh or any other side character from the original era. They can keep Carey Elwes as their supervisor, and if they investigated mostly supernatural stuff like what Frank Black did I think this revamp could work. I don't think the ratings would be as high but as a Friday night series it might just be good enough for FOX.

  • Nov. 18, 2001, 6:27 p.m. CST

    No ZOD, you're an X-PHILE Drone

    by thorne76

    You have no standards. You don't care about the quality, as long as you get your fix, the show doesn't have to make sense.

  • Nov. 18, 2001, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Good thing Fidel doesn't run the network

    by coop

    If you want monster of the week crap shows watch "Special Unit 2" or the "The Chronicle". The monster episodes are only filler for the more interesting alien arc and I for one could do without them. I wanted the show to end last season but it's still better than all the other sci-fi investigation shows out there. Also, 24 is a great show and just because there are so many flag waving - "don't worry be happy" types out there right now doesn't mean those of us who like quality dark escapist drama have gone away. Do you stop liking Twin Peaks when Lee Greenwood sings?

  • Nov. 18, 2001, 7:47 p.m. CST

    corelli, There are still some fans watching

    by valeriann

    Unfortunately, like another poster mentioned, their standards are low. They either have never watched Seasons 1-5 or they simply don't care if the show is dragged on and on. While the rest of us, either have MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER Type Parties when a particularly bad episode airs. ;-) Or we mourn this once great show for the sorry, inconsistent mess it has become. Great TV shows should not end like what The X-Files has become. I only hope other writers, producers, etc *LEARN* from the mistakes Chri$ Cartier & company have made.

  • I am not a Files drone. I just don't give in to the new crap that some people seem to like after ditching the show they were previously enamored with. Some of you may think the show has been going on too long. Sure, it's been going on for 8+ years. So what! They have just started a new show with new characters to deal with new mysteries. Gillian is forcing herself out, and now Reyes and Dogget are the stars. If you would know about these changes you wouldn't be talking smack. Have fun watching a different show.

  • Nov. 18, 2001, 8:41 p.m. CST

    ZOD, I've seen it and still sucks

    by thorne76

    They can add all the new cast members they want but it still won't change the fact the writing is a mess. They have yet to adequately finish any story arc. We're fed up with the endless plotlines that jump in different directions. One minute its the black oil, them we have Gibson, then now XENA is Aqua Woman. It proves what hacks they are. For every good story, there is a beginning, middle, end. They should have planned things out instead of making it up as they go along, but hey if you like being conned and manipulated thats your business. There was a time this show flowed in a coherent manner. Now it doesn't. And considering how it dropped 35% in the ratings in its second half hour, its obvious people are waking up.

  • Nov. 18, 2001, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Dead to Me

    by Mr. Smegma

    Tried, couldn't help it. Despite the piss poor first ep, I came back this week. Stayed for the first 30 hoping SOMETHING would happen, then switched off. Same old shit. Vaguely creepy intro solves privious week's cliffhanger, smarmy FBI higher up lords over erstwhile X-File digger, Scully evinces upset at something she cannot share, dark military plot in search of "super-soldiers", and although I didn't see it, I'm sure the Lone Gunmen turn up with exposition and yukks. That's it, I'm done. And I'd wager season 10 never happens.

  • Nov. 18, 2001, 10:18 p.m. CST

    Robert Patrick is the best thing on this show!

    by Woolam

    If there is no season 10 then I hope something good comes along for Robert Patrick. He is far and away the best thing on this show. Dogget is a great hard-boiled New York detective in an FBI uniform. I think that Patrick would make a great Mike Hammer. He is the reason I still watch the X-Files.

  • Nov. 18, 2001, 10:23 p.m. CST

    What the hell? It makes perfect sense...

    by horror vacui

    Mulder was in a grave for 5 months. He's living proof for all the alien/supersoldier conspiracy going ons. Of course he's going to be targetted, and of course Scully is going to force him to disappear. After everything that's happened, they're together and they have a child. She's not going to let him risk his life dodging forces that they now know are directly unstoppable - as was pointed out in the first time half of the premiere. They wouldn't target Scully or the child to get to Mulder. That would just blatantly expose them. "An FBI agent and her child have gone missing. The FBI is launching no investigation." Yeah, I can see that happening. I'm not even going to go into how perfectly this 'supersoldier' stuff fits in with the previous/continuing Alien colonization conspiracy. And yeah, I'm an X-Phile and a half. No need to point it out. I'm sad. I know.

  • Nov. 18, 2001, 11:36 p.m. CST

    I'm glad Gillian is "forcing herself out" of this thing.

    by Sith Lord Jesus

    That woman can act--anyone who's seen her as Lily Bart in THE HOUSE OF MIRTH knows that--and she's still young and beautiful enough to get a real career going in the movies. Lord knows she has the *talent.* She certainly doesn't need to be tied to the boat anchor that X-FILES has become. I hope she gets a part in EP. III or something, or maybe the lead role in another historical piece. Oh merciful Cthulhu, it just hit me--if they EVER EVER decide to finally make that fangs-out, hair-on-fire epic about the Iceni Rebellion, she's a shoo-in as Boadicea! And of course you'd want Poledouris for the soundtrack. ARE YOU LISTENING, HOLLYWOOD?! Quick, somebody (WITH TALENT) write a script!!

  • Nov. 18, 2001, 11:42 p.m. CST

    The truth is out there alright

    by samspade

    The truth being that this show has gone to hell and should die before it becomes even more of a joke. To the person who said the writers are making it up as they go along. You are right. And you can see it in the writing. Anyone who wants to see this show go past this season is nuts.

  • Nov. 18, 2001, 11:49 p.m. CST

    Two-parter sucked, but still hopeful

    by OneAngryDwarf

    I gotta admit, Nothing Important Happened Today 1 and 2 were really weak. It felt like they were just going through the motions of a standard X-Files mythology story. Scully looking for her name in a row of tons of other names reminds me of countless other episodes, except the feeling wasn't there. I'm still hopeful though. Vacui is right. It does make sense. And the X-Files has bad and good episodes. It's only two episodes of the season so all hope is not lost. The next episode looked interesting at least and I do like the tension between Doggett and Kersh. I think its the best acting they have on the show by far. And even if the X-Files does die a painful death this season, the movies will be the X-philes' savior. I'm on board for season 9 and probably beyond. My faith in Carter's faultering, but I think he knows how to get stuff working again.

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 12:37 a.m. CST

    Doesn't anybody on this show ever turn on the lights???

    by jocutus

    Seriously, these people work in a federal office building and no one ever seems to tun on the overhead lights. Same thing in every hospital, office, school, and home in every episode. Even when they're looking for evidence and there are lights available, they use dinky flashlights. That alone is reason enought to drive me insane. But if I have to hear the same dumb lines (such as "This is the Key to EVERYTHING!" or "Its too dangerous - But I can't tell you WHY!" or "This goes all the way to the top" and do on) my head explodes. And yet, sometimes I still try to watch. When Alias isn't on.

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Oh dear...

    by Dr Lex On Mars

    Someone on here thought that the audience would be LESS open to accepting stories of Government conspiracy with a Republican President? With 'W' running the show? Now that's funny, not to mention amazingly politically naive. If that's how you think then The X Files was never the show for you.

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Buffy vx. X-Files (revisit)

    by twitaman

    [I originally posted this in the forum...I thought this was a good time to revisit these ideas of what a truly consistently creative show is] You know, I used to be a HUGE X-Files fan. I thought it was the best damn show on tv and one of the best I'd ever seen -- not just in its genre but in any one. But when it went off track the train really derailed. It's a show that should've ended the season after the movie (the last truly great episodes appeared that year --none of them were "mythology" eps, in my opinion...some memorable ones were, The Alien Black Baseball Player episode, the Ocean Liner Time Warp, etc.) and it should've ended with a bang! Instead, it looks as if it's going to go out with a wimper... It'll be one of those shows that years from now airs in re-runs and you'll know in the first few seconds whether or not it's worth watching by who's in the cast. "Oh this is one of those Doggett ones, I'll pass..." Or, "oh, this is one of those UFO ones..." And yes, even though some of the UFO mythology episodes were cool and seemingly classic when they first aired, because of the shows own disrepect for its own mythology, continuity, and storytelling you cannot really watch them without snickering at yourself for falling into what amounted to pretty much NOTHING. For instance, the episode with the boy, named Praise (with Mimi Rogers) was on FX recently. Though I remember loving it when it first aired and being in to all the portentious aspects of it I had to laugh at myself during the repeat. I thought, "oh brother, here's another f*cking story that went nowhere." And that's the difference between Buffy (another "genre" show) and the X-Files. Buffy so far has not disrepected its own little cosmos. Stories arcs have a beggining, middle, and yes Chris Carter...they eventually END. And then new fabulous plot-lines are developed because the writers have NO fear and they respect what has gone before and evolve the show from there. Think about it, The Master from Season 1, Angelus from season 2, The Mayor... all were terrific stories, all were eventually closed. Had this been The X-Files these "mythology" stories would just continued to dangle or be lost in a convoluted labrynith that only the show's creator could understand. From a recent ( I end with this: [And "Buffy" never takes advantage of viewers' suspension of disbelief; strange things happen in Buffy's universe, but Whedon and his writers don't screw with the mythology for the sake of convenience. Nothing ever happens here without a darned good explanation, which is more than you can say about "The X-Files." But what's truly extraordinary about "Buffy" is how the show keeps moving forward, how its characters continue to evolve. Now four and a half seasons old (it premiered at midseason in March, 1997), "Buffy" is as whip-smart and unpredictable as ever.] The characters on the X-Files never truly evolved, at least not after the 5th season. They just got stuck in some kind of eternal bull-shit loop

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 9:36 a.m. CST

    How sad it's come to this

    by cjc_36

    I faced the truth that Carter was a hack back at Two Sons/One Father. There (what, 3 years ago?)Mulder/Scully never made anything important happen. They just chased after one silly clue until the real Smoking Men decided to send them on another meaningless quest (one with no connection to the previous one). Carter is no lover of character or character arc. And this, to me, is the saddest of all this. If there were changes and consequences and people-driven plot dynamics going on, I'd more than likely still be there. I still got the first five seasons on tape. Great TV in those. But..... It's just to f'n frustrating to type now. TV Overlords, please kill this zombie before it's too late.

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 9:46 a.m. CST

    This is to Horror Vacui...who is blinded by a sad devotion to th

    by IrishManDoyle

    Here's a question for ya... Now I haven't seen any of Season 9 yet, but I saw the excuse for TXF that Season 8 was. You say that the reason these stupid Super-Soldiers won't kill Scully and Kid is because there'd be a massive investigation if an FBI agent went missing. I do believe an FBI agent went missing last year and there was little to no investigation of it. This is not coz the FBI didn't want to, it's coz Chri$ Carter didn't want to bother writing the X Files as much as he did The NeXt Files. The only reason Mulder was found in the end was coz some geek with a disposable camera and a modem tracked UFO's to find his friend. He obviously cared more about his friend than Scully, Skinner or anyone else cared about Mulder, since they had the full resources of the FBI at hand and didn't find diddley-shite! What a crock of monkey turds! Chris Carter is a scabby bollox who hand't the guts or be loyal to his own story or his audience. He is now a joke, as is The X Files, and it serves him right. Pitty though because it is no longer possible to think of The X Files as the greatest TV show ever as it once was. Seasons 1 to 5 were the greatest TV show ever. 6 and 7 were still The X Files and still entertaining but what has happened since then has tarnished the good name and memory of this show forever. But who really gives a flying fuck anymore eh? Not me, nor the 10s of millions of people around the world who won't follow it anymore. Sad, sad, sad!

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 10:08 a.m. CST

    I realise there wasn't actually a question in my last post b

    by IrishManDoyle's one for ya. Wouldn't you have prefered if The X Files ended when Mulder got abducted(season 7 finale) and an eagerly awaited finale to the whole show\mystery was given to us in the second feature film, where Mulder finally completes his life-long quest? Or are you glad the show is now but a mere shadow of it's former self with Terminators running around whacking peoples heads off, with Scully's character being re-written from an amazing human being, a beautiful, smart, strong woman into a whiney, weak-willed tart, and with no end in sight of any explanaition of any of the events of the last 8 years, and absolutely no chance now of a resolution to the whole fucking point of The X Files in the first place: Mulder's quest to prove to the world (and to himself) the existence of alien life and the government's crimes relating to it??? Please feel free to answer honestly! I'm amazed that people who actually watched this show from the beginning are actually happy with the direction it's been taken in. I really am!

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 11:04 a.m. CST


    by horror vacui

    There was massive investigation into the disappearance of Mulder, and the entire reason Dogget was originally brought into the show was for that very reason. Scully and Skinner did not have access to the resources of the FBI. They were officially disassociated from the FBI's search for Mulder. They also both knew that no official investigation would follow up on leads or theories regarding UFOs and Aliens. So where did that leave them? Alone, following the only lead they had - Gibson Praise. Of course, that was a dead end. What lead to the recovery of Mulder was Absalom and his 'Cult' and Jeremiah Smith. I'm actually quite happy with how the show has continued. The Supersoldier storyline is pure brilliance on Chris Carter's part. The aliens want a way to combine a resilient human body with their essence and mental abilities. The Syndicate forms to assist in exchange that their families and loved ones be spared, Samantha's abduction, yadda yadda yadda, Alien-human Hybrids, Casandra Spender, yadda yadda yadda, and the rest is X-Files history. But how do you organize a project of such massive proportions as creating indestructable alien-human hybrids and keep it a secret? How could you convince all these scientists and associated persons that this 'planned armageddon' should carry on? Easy. DON'T TELL THEM. Cover it up as something else. A conspiracy within a conspiracy. Thus, the military's high level of hinted at involvement over the past 8 years - the 'Supersoldier' project. They think they're just making living weapons (which they've toyed with before, remember the soldiers that were surgically altered not to sleep?), when in fact they're figuring out how to make human beings vessels for the aliens. Scully isn't whiny or weak-willed. She had her firtility stolen from her. She had her soulmate stolen from her. She's had both returned. She's been forced to make Mulder leave because she doesn't want him to be killed, which would leave her to raise William alone. Now she's being lead to believe, though falsely I think, that her child is the result of an experiment and may be in danger. Suffice it to say, she's been through a lot. I think we'll see the 'Supersoldier' plot tied up by the end of the season, and then if Mulder and Scully's storyline continues it will do so in the following movie(s). The show itself could carry on, with Dogget and Reyes investigating other non-Alien related things like evil forces (as have been tied to Dogget), Demons and what not. Hey, you asked.

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 12:13 p.m. CST

    I'm free

    by GadgetBoy

    those were the lines Mulder said just after finnaly knowing what happened with Samantha. That's when the show should have ended. To me, the show has always been Mulder's quest for his sister. It is not the same show anymore...

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 12:31 p.m. CST

    horror vacui

    by IrishManDoyle

    First off: Well said Slime Guy 1. The announcement of another movie with Mulder and Scully is PURELY a trick to keep people who may be thinking of leaving, due to the re-invention of The X Files, so that they will keep up with the story until Mulder returns. Same trick they played last year when they claimed that Season 8 was about the search for Mulder. In reality 3 episodes were given to that story. The ratings this year will speak for themselves! Now two points: (1). This kid was tracking UFOs with a fucking disposable camera and an internet connection. He missed his friend, he cared for his friend, he loved his friend. And fair play to him...he found his friend. Now Scully, Skinner and The Lone Gunmen loved Mulder, cared about Mulder and wanted more than anything to find him. This is what I was thinking when I saw the Season 7 finale. However Chri$ Carter did not put this down on paper in a believable way in Season 8. Skinner broke the rules so many times to help Mulder, in much more trivial cases. And in this most serious case, he does jack shit. The same for Scully. The Lone Gunmen had all this technology to track UFO's in the Season 7 finale, where was it in Season 8. I mean this kid who tracked the UFO(s) had none of their fancy satelite gadgets and he sucessfully tracked them. The Gunmen must not have even tried. There was not even a mention of an attempt. UNBELIEVABLE! And Scully says "This is the break we were waiting for". Which proves they didn't try very hard and were waiting for a break. This all says something to me very loudly. THEY DIDN'T GIVE A SHIT!!!(But by 'they' I mean the writers) They expect us to beleive that The Lone Gunmen never thought to follow up on the whereabouts of the UFO(s), that Skinner wouldn't in this most desperate hour go all covert like he did so many times before, and that Scully would simply sit back and wait for "a break". GIVE ME A BREAK! This was all pushed aside while Chri$t Carter tried to sell us The NeXt Files. Way to sell out your audience Carter you hack! It's a have writing're just a greedy, undignified fuck! (2). It fair enough that you still enjoy the show, but it's way too science fiction now to be scary or dramatic. The X Files rarely stepped too far outside the bounds of speculative fiction into science fiction. The X Files was not a Sci-Fi show(as that term is widely used-incorrectly I might add). It was speculative fiction. Was this happening or was it not? Are there aliens or aren't there? Eventually it was a given that aliens existed and wanted to colonise the earth, again fair enough. But it was still dramatic. But these Terminators running around invincible, being able to regenerate from a single piece of metal. THAT'S BULLSHIT!!! That belonged on Voyager or some shit, not The X Files. There's no paranoia about the show anymore and no sense of Mulder against the Government which made The X Files dark, dramatic and kept it in the realms of speculative fiction. If I want to see Robert Patrick fighting a man with a metal endo-skeleton I'll watch Terminator 2. The neXt Files is unoriginal, badly (re)-written garbage, which only serves to make a joke of the greatness of the story lines that came before it. The worst thing is it ruins the magic of going back and watching all the old mytharcs knowing the BULLSHIT direction it all goes in...and knowing that at the end of the day Mulder will never complete his quest, never become the ultimate hero/martyr and that the fans from the beginning will never be rewarded for viewing. This sums up my annoyance with the direction of this show has taken: It was much more dramatic, frightening and interesting to think that the military were involved with the "greys" abduction of people for reasons unknown, or even for exchange of aircraft technology rather than for making fucking Terminators out of the abductees. If Chri$ keeps getting payed for this, then by Season 15 there'll be another story-line which will contradict the Terminator one. BUNCH OF ARSE!

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Alias beat X-Files in the ratings

    by raingirl

    According to the fast nationals " The CBS movie "In Love and War" led the nine o'clock hour with an 8.9/13 (8.5/13 from 9 to 11 p.m.), followed by NBC's "Law & Order: Criminal Intent," 8.5/13. ABC's "Alias" and FOX's "The X-Files" took third and fourth respectively with a 6.9/11 and a 5.8/9 "

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Perfect example of my new feeling for X-Files

    by Jack Burton

    I saw Harry Potter last night at a 7:00 show. We got there a half hour early to get seats, etc. Anyway, when I got home at 10 I turned on TV and realized I hadn't recorded The X-Files (or any Fox Sunday programming for that matter) and found that I didn't care. I've loved the show from Season 1 and now I'm just sick of it. Reading the little synopsis on here and IGN is more enjoyable then wading thru an episode. Altough I'm still gonna check out the stand-alones, at least at first. What's next week looking like?

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 2:50 p.m. CST

    W. and a new era

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    Boy this is going to sound both geeky and political, two subjects I nor most people I know like to mix together. I followed the series from the very start when it premiered and championed it on the early Internet, during the pre-Web browser years, and encouraged friends to watch it. But I can acknowledge and see that the series probably took off thanks to the general mood of the American viewing public at the time: angst over the end of the millennium, and interest in gov't conspiracies, which was a trend du jour throughout the 1990s. In case you haven't noticed, throughout the 1990s, the pop culture was rather "gothic" and "dark" (movies like Seven, American Beauty, Fight Club; alternative music being popular; and so forth). If you pay notice now, the general public just doesn't seem to be into this kind of stuff anymore. (And for the record, I don't like Dubya. I think he's lucky as hell that a war erupted, thus, cementing his "legitimacy" among the public.) I love(d) X-Files but I can clearly see that it's now part of a bygone era. Chri$ Carter and FOX need to let it go; otherwise, this enviscerated version of the series will drag down the network and ruin interest in another feature film. I'm the messenger, not the reason for the message.

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Geez, there's so much hate here it sounds like a Jerry Sprin

    by Fatal Discharge

    I can't follow the 10-year plotline! I want to watch a ripoff of Dark Angel/Nikita called Alias!! Skinner's bald spot is growing!!! Waaah!!!! Let me get your pacifier for you. Should the show have ended last season? Yes. This was the weakest season-opener yet. However, I did like last season and felt Doggett added some fresh blood to the show. The X-Files has been the best show of the last decade IMO. Do all the naysayers think it's easy to stretch a continuing plotline over 10 years? Even the bad episodes are better than 80% of most crap on tv. I'll continue to watch it not because I'm not a discerning viewer but because I care about the characters and don't feel I have to nitpick over every detail and drain it of any enjoyment I may get...sort of like why I route for the same teams year-in and year-out while fair-weather fans jump ship at any sign of floundering.

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Gillian Anderson is dreamy and she's especially gorgeous thi

    by Ncontrol

    ... But the show should've ended 3 years ago.

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 5:01 p.m. CST

    dohmersimpson what is there to follow??? This show never follow

    by samspade

    From the half ass way to they resulted the disappearance of Mulder's sister, to the black oil, the destruction of the syndicate, its obvious that the writers make it up as they go along and when they do finish something, its done in a ass way, or they take the plot on a sidetrip in the hopes the viewers will forget! Some of us are tired of being conned. A good show eventually leads you somewhere instead of continually lying to the audience. Its nice the ratings are going down the tubes. It means some people are finally waking up about the current condition of this show.

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 5:16 p.m. CST

    I don't understand this so called loyalty thing

    by valeriann

    Nobody owes anything to a TV Show. Those involved with the creation of the show are the ones that owe you for watching it. By continuing to support it, you're saying you acccept its lowered standard of quality where in fact it would be better to make a statement to FOX and the powers that be and change the channel. It would send a message that the fans are tired of the current writing standards and won't support a show that doesn't live up to the original stellar quality it had.

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Jack Burton, **Some Spoilers****

    by raingirl

    First, The X-Files is not on next Sunday. STAR WARS: The Phantom Menace will be airing on Sunday instead. And heres a standalone spoiler for you in an upcoming episode. "John Doggett ends up in Mexico where he gets amnesia and ends up smuggling immigrants across the border." I kid you not. This is an actual spoiler for an X-Files episode. Could someone please tell me where The X-File is? ;)

  • He let what was once the greatest TV show ever degenerate into pure utter trash. Something he said will never do. First all the gore last season and now they're doing skin teases with Lawless and Gish? Ugh. This show should have ended 2 or 3 years ago while it was still THE BEST and they could have just done movies. Now it's reach the point only the hardest core fans care (they lie to themselves that it's still good). When the X-Files movie came out it was an event. I mean the theater was packed, everyone was excited it kicked ass. Now maybe 10% of those people give a shit anymore. Part of it is the loss of the Mulder and Scully dynamic which provided the shows magic but the writing is subpar, more like an X-Files rip-off/wannabe then The X-files. Every story is a lame ass rehash of what's already been done. The only characters I give a shit about are Scully and TLG. (Why did they have to cancel their show? I liked it... Much better then this crap.). Dogget is just a typical Ex-Marine, Ex-NYPD straight arrow stereotype. Reyes is pretty but dull. They both could get killed and I wouldn't feel a thing. I remember way back when the show was great they had an episode all about Scully fighting her cancer with her writing a diary for Mulder to read if she dies and I just cried through the whole episode. The villains are now dull too, no Cancer Man, no Kycheck, no Syndicate. Just boring Adam Baldwin and now boring Carey Elwes (I like him better doing comedy). I seriously don't think I can make it through the whole season. Sometimes ya just gotta know when to walk away no matter how much it hurts.

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Z0D is because of "fans" like you they keep making crap!

    by JMYoda

    "loyal fans who will watch no matter what" Loyal to what? Loyal to Chris Carter who only cares about the fucking paycheck he gets? FOX who cancels good shows in their infancy like Space:ABB and TLG only to keep this rotting corpse of it's former self on? If your wife fed you great home cooked meals for 10 years then all of a sudden put a plate full of steaming hot dog shit on the table would you eat it? After all you need to be loyal to her! That's exactly what Carter and FOX are doing. For 6-7 years they fed us gourmet meals, now they're giving us dog shit and I've just about had it. The only thing that has kept me this long is I love Scully and I hate to think they might have shit that will pertain to a new movie later. Although I'm starting to see that Scully really isn't Scully anymore and there's never going to be anymore movies because no one will give a shit anymore since Carter is beating it into the ground. This is just like the SW fans who keep buying the New Jedi Order books. They kill of Chewie, kill off Anakin Solo and give us villians that seem more like something out of Star Trek yet people just keep reading them. Anyone who thinks that crap is Star Wars is as braindead as anyone who thinks this crap Carter is feeding us is The X-Files. 'Nuff said, I'm out.

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 6:36 p.m. CST

    A fan with a question about the episode

    by CuttingRoomFloor

    Who the f*ck "killed" Aquagirl last night? All we saw was the hand punching through, her falling in the water and then cut to a commercial. When we get back Doggett is running around with Reyes and Scully again. Whose hand was it that did the punching? Am I dim or something? Aquagirl had already sliced the head off the only known threat. And why did Doggett seem oblivious to the immediate threat as he watched Aquagirl fall off the dock??? Did anybody else notice this?

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 8:13 p.m. CST

    If you're on the bubble, I suggest just watching the mytharc

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    If those of you here are interested in keeping up with the series' mytharc episodes this season (or what's left of the mytharc), the next ones will be episode 9X08 and 9X10. 9X08 deals with Scully's baby and Mulder will have an "off-camera" role in it. 9X10 deals with a story that appears to have a connection to the Season 6 finale/Season 7 premiere storyline which was set along the African coast. Like Enterprise's FutureGuy arc, I've decided that I'll only watch the episodes that deal with the remnants of the X-Files mytharc.

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 11 p.m. CST

    Doesn't anyone pay attention?

    by horror vacui

    People bitch about incoherence and things never going anywhere, but it's really all plain as freaking day. The X-Files isn't just about Aliens, or the fight between Evil Vs Good, God Vs Satan, Spirituality, love, or all the different mysteries that it confronts - it's about ALL of them and how they all interconnect. Nothing is completely compartmentalized or seperate from anything else. I'm not saying that the storyline hasn't changed and evolved over time, and I'm not saying that Chris Carter is free from the influence of money, but none the less the X-Files continues to be one of the most comprehensively wowing shows ever made. The rest of the episodic, formulaic crap on television can't hold a candle. Though the 'mytharc' represents the major storyline, every episode ultimately matters to the complete story. What hasn't been followed through on? Mulders quest? He found the truth about what happened to his sister - but that's not all. Reincarnation in the X-Files universe was substantiated ('The Field Where I Died'). In 'The Blessing Way' when Mulder was near death he encountered the spirits of his father, and Deep Throat, but Samantha wasn't there. Was she alive? No. Her spirit was in a state of limbo awaiting reincarnation as we see in 'Closure'. You don't think that those ghosts of children including Samantha were just playing in the forest for the hell of it do you? This scene was a representation of the limbo state their souls were in. William is Samantha reincarnated. Williams birth sends the alien threat into submission, if not completely ending it. Mulder, quite literally, found his truth in Scully. If you'd prefer resolution in the form of Mulder running around inside a UFO, shooting Greys with his gun, I would suggest watching 'Independence Day' or something similar. I just watch the show. I don't pour over scripts or write essays on this shit - or at least not until now. I just watch. Doesn't anyone else? And CuttingRoomFloor, that was the headless Rohrer's fist going through Aquagirl's chest.

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Entertainment Weekly rates TXF a......

    by parnellbc

    If you've seen the newest EW w/Superboy on it then you know that The X-Fils scores a solid "B" rating. Pretty good for a show that should be dead according to all the "bandwagon talkbackers" who think they know s*$t about TV. You want to praise "La Femme Nikita Revisted" fine its an entertaining show but not superior to TXF. You have a poor opinion of the new characters fine. Some say the "monster stories are old" fine. Those same people are probably the same ones who love "Smallville" and its kryptonite 'monster' every week. But *gasp* its new and must be the greatest thing sliced bread. The X-Files will live or die on its on merit and not cause "Alias" is delivered by God to rescue Sunday night. I have the opinion this new "water conspiracy w/the military" and the new characters can&will be as good as the alien arcs. If you choose to stop watching fine, just admit your attention span shifts with whatever the marketing exes on Madison Ave. tell you is cool. Long live the X-Files. ZOD is right.

  • Nov. 19, 2001, 11:53 p.m. CST

    The Entertainment Weekly Reviews DON'T MEAN SQUAT!!

    by thorne76

    Ken Tucker knows Frank SPotnitz back when he worked at the magazine and they attended the same college. Go ahead and continue enjoy being manipulated. Some of us are smarter than that. And now the hacks at 1013 want us to reinvest in a new conspiracy about super soldiers and the Justice Department when they haven't even resolved the conspiracy we've been watching for eight years. Fool me once....fool me twice.....

  • Nov. 20, 2001, 12:52 a.m. CST

    So, is this the band wagon?

    by CappyMorgan

    Do any of you have a thought of your own? I notice, no matter what is posted, about fifteen follow suit. I think X-Files is a great show. If you have given up, good for you, but others of us still find it interesting. To put it down, along with the viewers, just shows that Kevin Smith was correct in his evaluation. If you don't fucking like it, don't watch it. I have a feeling most of the negative reviewers do not, or didn't really care to begin with. Great, but don't try to review a show that you half assed watched in the first place. To call CC a hack only shows how damn idiotic you truly are. I'd like to see what type of gibberish you could produce.

  • Nov. 20, 2001, 1:13 a.m. CST

    CappyMorgan, I've watched since The freaking Pilot

    by thorne76

    I used to get people to watch this show. You tell me the truth. Is this what you expected when you started watching this show? Never finishing any plot point? The disappointed fans have a right to speak their peace. This used to be a great show. And now due to big egos, not being organized, lazy writing done by people who basically don't give a squat, this show has gone to hell. Because of this, the shows place in history will be stained. This show should have ended while it was on top. And yes, I can write a hell of alot better than what they have been spoon feeding and manipulating you with.

  • Nov. 20, 2001, 1:38 a.m. CST

    Thorne, give me a break.

    by CappyMorgan

    Spoon feeding me? You sound like you have been jilted by some lover. The show is enjoyable, and I still find it so. To be honest, I think they have been answering more questions than you have been picking up on. I thought about it, and they do need another season to finish up loose ends. Is it as good as it was when it first started? Yes. Just take a look at the show in the beginning from an ojective perespective. It was corny, it was silly and it was fun. I still get that same feeling from the show. I still enjoy it. So, how does this equate "spoon fed"? I think the acting is beyound that of normal shows, and I think the writing is still superior. It does meander, but that is what X-Files has always done. There is nothing new in that aspect. The super soliders of the opening season fit in perfectly with the alien conspiracy. I see a logical connection...just because Mulder is not in the show does not mean it isn't worth watching.

  • Nov. 20, 2001, 2:06 a.m. CST

    Typical. All you Xphile drones lump the disenchanted fans as bei

    by thorne76

    It was never about Mulder leaving. Its about writing that makes sense. A good writer should build a foundation, have a working bible and not wing it. They're making it up as they go along and that doesn't make for fun writing. There was a time when this show was unlike anything on TV and now its become like everything else. Now we see Scully transformed into a weepy tv character stereotype and we're supposed to figure out the connection between super soldiers and the aliens? I'm sorry but its bad writing. TV shows should end while they're on top. The longer this show runs, the more pathetic it becomes.

  • Nov. 20, 2001, 2:18 a.m. CST

    Still a fun show.

    by CappyMorgan

    Yes, of course, they are making it up as the go along. I believe ever show on TV follows the same format. Do the creators of a show have any idea that it is going to be as successful as it has been? Of course not. Has the X-Files tied in this year to the rest of the conspiracy theory. Yes. I think it works. It is working for me and I will continue to watch until the end. I think Carter has weaved a great tale and it still keeps me interested. If you don't like it, don't watch it. I know, I hate it when people say that, but it beats whining about a show that you apparantly no longer love to follow. But, you have to see my point...I've read here and on the newsgroups so much resentment...and it appears a lot of it happened because the "heart" of the show pursued a movie career. I'm a fan, you were a fan...the difference...I choose to cotinue enjoying the show. It will end this why bitch about it or don't. I don't think the writing is any worse than it was when it first began. If anything, they have been answering more questions the last two years than not. I don't know what your point is though, because I feel that the show has maintained its integrity and still supports the central conspiracy.

  • Nov. 20, 2001, 2:22 a.m. CST

    By the way...

    by CappyMorgan

    Simply because someone enjoys the show does not make them a "drone". I think jumping on the "I hate X-Files" bandwagon more reflects that type of mentality. I find it interesting that the talk backers tend to reflect whatever the reviewer posts.

  • Nov. 20, 2001, 2:52 p.m. CST

    I notice you're still watching

    by jtp8000

    I notice a lot of you who slam the show are still watching it. Do you just watch it so you got something to gripe about? Pretty pathetic life if that's the case.

  • Nov. 20, 2001, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Kneel before Z0D because the super soldier is back

    by Z0D

    I have come back to brainwash any previous and current X-File fan to remain faithful to the show. It needs to go on and to be successful so Chris Carter can reap the almighty currency you hold so valuable. I would like to proclaim that the main argument here is purely based on personal satisfaction. Since there are those of you who do not understand the mythos of the X-Files, you have become selfish and evil. I do not understand how, exactly, those who were so enamored with the show in its early days have become so furious as to flame those fans who still believe in goodness that is the X-Files. For thee I have my own proclamation. Kneel before Z0D! Those of you who pity the show are ignorant. You claim that Chris Carter has misguided you to believe that there is 1) A main idea 2) A main character and 3) Still a good reason for spending your time on it. Let me tell you that there are many main ideas for the show. It can be called 'branching.' In the X-Files, it may be that for every 3 new branches, there is 1 branch 'closure.' This closure may pass you by as a barely noticable piece of dialogue, or as complete episode dedicated to 'closure.' Another branch could focus on worm men and would still be open to future episodes. Listen to Z0D and pay attention! The main character is still the main character. For those of you who so dearly love Mulder and his quest, it has yet to be over. Let me tell you that the alien invasion has just begun, but there are many things that the US government is doing to fight back. For one thing, the super soldiers have been created and are in the final stages of approval. These super soldiers have been created to either save the human race from the threat know as the 'greys', or to destroy us. The supersoldiers aren't alien, but indeed they are. They're almost perfected to the point where we can create an army and begin to fight back against the alien invasion, or vice versa. This leads me back to Mulder. Mulder was to become a super soldier, but he was saved. He has more to so with the X-Files, and that is to make sure his son is the savior for the human race. Of course, Z0D could be wrong and all of what I just speculated could be inaccurate. Use your imagination, I tell you. The last thing I want to say is aimed at your elegant attempt to turn your back on your former favorite show. For one, all you flamers may be AD/HD people, those who cannot sit still and pay full attention. Or, you may be someone normal who thinks that their time is appropriate to use on new shows. I understand this point. I do because you drop an old (say, 1 month old) shirt like a bad habit and go buy three new shirts just because you lost faith in the way you look in your old shirt. I guess you would like to look snappy and up to date with the times by having new clothes. The same goes for the show. You drop it because you don't like it anymore and you want to fit in with the 'in croud.' It's too bad that the American society has become so enchanted with everything new and enhanced. You have to have everything your way, or no way. The majority of you ignore the simplicity of simplicity. Why buy a Mercedes when you can buy a used Oldsmobile? If you have the money, go ahead and buy a Mercedes. Your friends and foes will love you for it. Your friends will say, "Nice car! I wanna be your friend." Your foes will say, "Thank you for spending your hard earned cash on our hand made car. We will make more so you can enjoy yourself more." What if you buy the used Oldsmobile? Your buddy says, "Got a different car, eh? I am sure it's good enough to take us somewhere." No wonder those who live in different parts of your world look at you and think, "What the hell? They spend their money on useless things. I have to save my money so I can feed my starving chilren every 7 days." I guess I got a little excited in trying to explain my message to you disbelievers. Good day to you.

  • Nov. 20, 2001, 4:16 p.m. CST

    The LA Times On The X-Files ratings for Part 2

    by raingirl

    " The second half of a two-part "The X-Files" season opener on Sunday was trounced in its 9 p.m. time slot, finishing fourth with about 9.4 million viewers. It was the lowest-rated installment since the Fox drama moved from Fridays to Sundays in 1996. The first part of the season opener, which aired the week before, attracted about 10.4 million viewers, down about a third from last year's audience. The series, in its ninth season, stars Gillian Anderson, Robert Patrick and Annabeth Gish. "

  • Nov. 20, 2001, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Thanks for the answer ...

    by CuttingRoomFloor

    horror vacui. I had considered the Headless One as being AquaGirl's bane, but ruled it out as being too silly. I guess it's the only thing that fits. So, I suppose his torso was dragged down to the bottom with AquaGirl? Now from which part will he be resurrected, the Head or the Torso? This SuperSoldier stuff is SO CONFUSING. ;) _______ All this naysaying is confusing too. There seem to be four types of fans now: 1) Disgusted, who will never watch the show again, 2) Disgruntled, who still watch, but resent it, 3) Disappointed, who still watch, but long for The Olden Days, 4) Content, who still watch and understand that changes are required. Now why #1 and #2 still post here is beyond me, all we're gonna hear from them is gripes and trolling. After awhile it all starts to sound the same. ________ And would people stop beating up Carter and his writing. We've heard this Little-Johnny-One-Note crap for years before this season, so give it a rest. From those who believe he's a hack, is this really news???

  • Nov. 20, 2001, 6:09 p.m. CST

    Just random points

    by Losingit

    I'm just wating for Marita Covarubias to turn up - isn't she due for a return sometime soon?What is that? Okay, slight digression there. BRING BACK CANCER MAN! He doesn't die, he's like this random thing that keeps coming back from the dead! We need him - the constant symbol of the darker side of humanity. Didn't he (William B. Davis) say in an interview once that he was the star of the show ( as opposed to DD)? In a way I agree - villains are so appealing in a twisted way. I think in "killing" him off, the show lost far more than it did in Mulder's abduction, and abrupt departure this season. That was THE mistake. But that's just my bizarre take on the show. And the idea of having Frank Black on the show is an interesting one, but I'm not going into that cos it bring back anger over Millenium, and the msiatke there. My other problem is the whole Samantha issue - I'm not satisfied! I want an alternative ending. It could be done. Mulder was apparently dying - he was desperate to find the answer, and so accepted what he thought was the truth. Plus, he has a brain disease - it could have made him think that he "saw" his sister in that sequence at the end of Closure. It cheated the fans, it cheated the Samantha character, and it cheated Mulder. She is alive, as Mulder was told like how many times. I think he should have found her at the end of Season 7 - perhaps exchanging himself for her, and then Season 8 bout Scully and Samantha searching for Mulder - would've been more intense, more interesting. Okay, enough rambling for now.

  • Nov. 20, 2001, 10:20 p.m. CST

    The lost and unattainable

    by parnellbc

    There are those who are lost to their once loved show and there are some who never got it at all. One poster mentioned that the show is about more than just one easy 'fit-it-in-a-box' explanation. I think they came as close to an explanation as one could hope. Everything from monsters, mutant freaks, aliens, gov.testing & religious oddities ties loosely together. Zod mentioned the many branches of the X-Files and this is what the above sentence is about. This show is all about half-truths, partial realites and unmentionables. If you've watched the show so long that you thought you were going to get a nice gift wrapped ending w/a full explanation like a S.Trek series you deluded yourself. From the start this show has been bigger than any conspiracy. If your tired of following for the fun, fine, like any junkie sometimes you need a new fix. Thorne or someone has his own conspiracy for not liking/agreeing w/Entertainment Weeklys "B" grade for the show. I wonder what Thorne thinks of the praise bestowed to "Smallville, 24,Undeclarred" or others. Has EW missed the boat of entertainment? Or, has a Freudian slip occured. In Thorne and others hasty retreat they must find/invent answers as to their sudden disgust with TXF. The thought of,"Its not me thats changed, so it must be the show". Fact, change has happened to both. The difference is TXF has always been about evolving and changing and you(the disenchanted) have as well you just can't accept it or realize it. As far as the ratings go its Sweeps. Stunts and onetimers. This show will balance out and still prove over the season that it has quality. Long live The X-Files.