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UPDATED: A Review Of The ATTACK OF THE CLONES Teaser On Front Of MONSTERS INC!!!
Harry here with clarification:
Harry;
Saw your report on AICN about the teaser trailer. I just want to
clarify that we have posted TWO trailer descriptions. The first we
posted Monday and it is identical to yours:
That is the one attached to Monsters Inc. We then posted a SECOND
one which you linked to on your site.
That is for the next trailer which we've been told will be attached
to Harry Potter. I can confirm that it IS a legitimate description.
You can also expect a THIRD teaser exclusively online on November
9th. They're releasing like one a week.
I'd be most appreciative if you'd clarify this on your site so nobody
else is confused.
Later!
ScottHey folks, Harry here... Got this trailer description of the EPISODE II Trailer... I compared it to the one that TheForce.Net got and it appears to be fairly radically different. SO... Is their trailer description bogus or is this one? Well time will certainly tell, to read TF.N's CLICK HERE and to read ours... read on...
..if you want it. I attended a screening of Monsters Inc. (wonderful, by the way, but not on the level of Toy Story) this morning and attached to it was the first Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones teaser trailer. Quite frankly, I was floored. In fact, it took more than a few minutes to calm down and concentrate on the actual feature I was there to see. Of course, as I had this same reaction to the Phantom Menace trailer, I remain cautiously optimisic about how this second film will actually pan out. But anyway, here's what I saw (and forgive me if some of the details are hazy as I sat through 90 plus minutes of Pixar and then made the long drive home before sitting down to email).
The trailer starts with the standard "Lucasfilm" logo and then fades to black. Out of the total silence we hear the sound of Darth Vadar breathing menacingly. Then a montage of shots from the new film begins. The breathing, however, continues throughout the entire thing (i'm guessing 30 seconds, but that could be way off). In fact, there is no music whatsoever and certainly no voice over (thank god). Besides Vadar's breathing, there are only a few sharp, pointed and deep notes that sound as if they've been lifted from Maul's TPM theme.
The images themselves are breathtaking. There is a long shot of what I think is Theed, although it appears to be on a shore line of some sort.
There is a close up of a fully computer-generated Yoda and much to my surprise, it looks great. Very, very detailed. The wrinkles in his forehead are clear and move in conjunction with the rest of his face when he raises an eyebrow to ...
... Mace Windu, looking very thoughtful and wearing the same brown rope he wore in TPM.
We see shots of Anakin and Amidala (Natalie Portman looks GREAT) and a fairly passionate kiss between the two.
We also see someone rocketing up a tall spire (but not the Jedi temple) in a Boba-Fett back pack. Probably Jango Fett. Very cool.
There is another very interesting shot of Obi-Wan floating in some sort of man-made, bluish force-field. It looks like he's either asleep or has been knocked out. Could this be the cloning proceedure?
We see Anakin and Obi-Wan charge down a walkway, sabers drawn. Cut to a shot of Anakin in a furious light saber battle with a figure too shrouded in the darkness to make out.
We see a city of orbital structures built right smack dab out of the middle of the ocean. Kinda looks like the Stromberg's lair in "Spy Who Loved Me."
We also see Watto floating around with a saucer-like hat on, (the same one that the actual actor {Andy something, I can't remember his name} wore while walking through the scenes with Liam Neeson) as well as C3PO looking a bit more finished. Then there's Artoo standing in eery blue light lined out like a grid on the floor.
Mixed in with all these images (they're probably out of order, sorry, the ol' brain ain't what it used to be) is a terrific shot of literally thousands of droids walking up a HUGE ramp into a HUGE transport ship of somekind. The sheer number of droids (could be battle droids, the shot is from far above the action) dwarfs anything we saw in TPM's final battle. Amazing.
Well, that's about it. The words "The saga continues: summer 2002" pop up following the preview and then there was only stunned silence in the theater. Lucas has said this installment is considerably darker and judging by this short, short trailer, it appears he wasn't pulling our collective leg.
By the way, Jar Jar is nowhere to be seen in the trailer, nor is Palpatine, Dooku, or Jimmy Smitts.
Well, thanks Harry. Hope this helps.
Darth Chode
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I can't wait to see this. I hope the movie lives up to what we all hope in can be!!
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I guess the wife is going to make me see Monsters Inc. now for sure. It should be worth it for this, and hell I liked Toy Story 1 & 2.
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So this could be the teaser which is short. We are in for a more mature film and it will knock the socks off anything out in 2002. We are in for a classic and this will put the end to the TPM bitching, and at long last Harry you find its newsworthy.
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This is the film that will get me back to a theater.
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God I can't wait to see this trailer.
when can we expect this stuff to be online or on tv???
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Oct 24, 2001 5:00:18 PM CDT
I read the teaser-description on theforce.net and i am not buyin
by e_man
But if it turns out (although very very unlikely) that the one described on theforce.net is accurate then I will scratch this movie from the "must see in 2002"-list.
Really, the dialogue described sounds really really corny, even by Lucas standards.
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I hope but this trailer sounds good. Can't wait to see this film!
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Oct 24, 2001 5:01:42 PM CDT
At least we dont have to buy a ticket for MEET JOE BACK this tim
by jefferylebowski
AOTC will blow Matrix 2 out of the water. If Matrix 2 ever actually gets in the water to begin with. Half the cast is dead already, and Silver keeps pushing this thing further and further back. Anyway, Lucas is back on his game. And I'd still prefer to watch Episode 1 than any piece of shit I went to see to last summer. Ill take Jar Jar: The Movie over Tomb Raider 2 or Mummy 3, please.
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Is it just me, or is that the new talkback mantra. Seriously, take that Fight Club DVD out of the machine for one night. Great movie, but I'm sick of hearing the guy's name. Would any filmgoer in his right mind really want to take Star Wars away from Lucas? Whether you like it or not, it's his goddamn story, let him tell it. In fact, I think I'm done with Star Wars talkbacks until 2005, when somebody might finally know that theyre talking about.
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...and the one at AICN is the teaser...the Force.net one goes deep into the story line of Anakin and Padme, and I think that one may be released later on...it shares similar shots, and all, but the AICN guy is very positive about no speaking in the first part of the Monsters, Inc. teaser, whereas the Force.net starts with the Darth Vader breathing but quickly goes to dialogue, as if it is invoking the teaser trailer...
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Geeze I can't stand all the fuss over stupid Star Wars movies. F*cking geeks!
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This is the first one......the calm before the STORM! Attached to Monsters INC as a favor to Lucas' pals at Pixar. The most "Subdued" of the bunch. A taste............
Number 2: An Internet exclusive (at least at first). Could be on the DVD-rom link. Insiders regard this as the best of the three.
Number 3: Attached to Harry Potter. Description has been leaked. The "Romantic" one of the three. I'm actually looking forward to this one the most.
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dont know if anyone mentioned this, but the description on TFN is of the second trailer, to be released on the 9th, and this is the teaser which is in front of monsters inc
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While I don't know about Fincher being the man to take the reins, there is nothing wrong with putting someone else at the helm. Empire, generally considered the best of the series (and the only one really worth a tenth of the worship this franchise gets), was written by Lawrence Kasdan and directed by the reletively unknown Irvin Kershner. Kasdan also stuck around for the Jedi script. So why not get HIM to write and/or direct it? Lucas did himself a favour by enlisting some help for the Episode II script, but he's proven to be so self-indulgent and ignorant of the fan's desires (or apathetic), that he should just confine himself to the room where the special effects are implemented and the Jar Jar Piggy Banks are put together.
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The trailer as described above is very similar to what has been described in other spy reports on such rumor sites as theforce.net a few days ago all the way down to Vader's breathing and the silence of it all. Don't confuse the previous posts on the trailer to the new one on theforce.net. It's possible since there are three trailers that both the one described here (and earlier on theforce.net) and the detailed one now at theforce.net are legit. I suspect however that this report is fabricated from the spy reports seen on theforce.net earlier. I mean, the new description on theforce.net I think is a better description of the old report and this probable fabrication varies from the old report enough to be dissimilar from the new one. I suspect that in the final trailer, things are not silent. But rather quiet with lots of voiceovers as described in the new report. The new report contains all of what was mentioned in the old one such as clone troopers at the end and a mysterious cloaked character (likely Dooku). The difference in the new report and older reports is mention of music (which may not have been added in when people saw it originally) and the dominance of Padme and Anakin in the trailer. So I suspect we only know of one trailer right now. One focuses on Padme and Anakin. I think it is safe to say that we will see one that focuses on Obi-Wan and his investigation into the clones and the corruption. Oh well, it seems at least one trailer will focus on Obi-Wan since the movie cuts back and forth between Obi-Wan and Anakin. I'm not sure what the third trailer will be unless it focuses on the brewing civil war and perhaps the Jedi's role in it--Palpatine, Padme in senator mode, Jedi Council, Count Dooku could all be players in the third trailer. But of course, my guesses on the other two trailers is purely speculative. Keep in mind though that Trailer A as described on Force.net (the newest description) is probably accurate.
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And no fart or poop jokes. Period. Ever. Also, maybe I'm losing my mind, but Attack of the Clones doesn't sound nearly as bad as it did when I first heard it. Wish they'd forget about the midi-flouride things (which were like a bad Star Trek idea).
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I'm pretty sure the "droids" being loaded into the transport ships are actually clonetroopers.
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Depends on the delivery. Lets just hope that Lucas doesnt develop the relationship of the two like the Neo + Trinity relationship was developed - few long looks at each other throughout the film followed by "you cant die because I love you!" Jeez...Go Episode II !
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E-Man: The "stilted" emotions of the galaxy was a PLOT point. It is a FLAW of the Republic. And this includes the Jedi. They are so worried about emotions that they cut them all out (kind of like Reese in TERMINATOR). Only "rebels" like Qui-Gon, Jar Jar (an extreme on the other side- "an emotional basket-case"), sweet Anakin (non-jaded,non-cynical exhuberant kid-----read: NON-FANBOY.......Ha ha ha), and the QUEEN in her handmaiden persona go against this convention. You'll see in AOTC, how Anakin is a REAL LOOSE CANNON to the Jedi (especially for Obi-Wan). You'll get the cockiness of Han times 10 with Anakin's feeling of Emowerment. And the dialogue of the Teaser ROCKS!! E-man, you obviously don't KNOW SW, so Shut yo mouth!!!! And I bet you're one of those fanboys who never even saw a great movie like FIGHT CLUB in the theatres. Now because of DVD............you act like you're David Fincher's bitch.
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As for Empire Strikes Back and who wrote it, Lawrence Kasdan and Leigh Brackett wrote the screenplay, and George Lucas wrote the story. Granted, I agree that Lucas has his flaws: poor dialogue, character development, Ewoks, Gungans. However, I wouldn't want him locked up to only work on special effects. The Anakin/Luke story is his idea and it's a good one--and it's the soul of Star Wars. For the main plot, I'm willing to let Lucas tell his story. It's just some of those choices that aren't essential (like Gungans and Ewoks) that can drag things down. But there are all sorts of conspiracy theories about Lucas not deserving any credit which seem ill formulated. Also, the midichlorians don't cheapen the force.
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...with typically embarrasing George Lucas dialogue and only a brief snippet of Obi-Wan fighting some hooded figure. Must be the one they show during Oprah and stuff like that - ya know... the chick version.
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The first film TPM for kids, The Second Film for teenagers and the third film for Dark Minded Adults. This is the way it seems to be going, and good on it. Fincher would be ideal to direct the 3rd one, but if Lucas does a good job with AOTC give him the 3rd one and let us dwell in its fantastic glory. And to the person who said to not bother with a review of the teaser, and only focus on film reviews:- I didnt hear you complain when the first LOTR trailer was described before shown. This is a movie news site and the trailer for AOTC is one of the most newsworthy pieces of info regarding film this year. What would you prefer to hear a review of the DVD for Pearl Harbour or this?? AOTC, LOTR and Monsters Inc are going to be the stuff that dreams are made of, after the year we have had thank GOD for that. When the hell do us Brits get this trailer??? Anyone know???
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I didn't mind TPM, but it felt more like a prelude to the "real" story than a story in itself. Knowing what's to come between now and ANH, I'm worried that Lucas is going to try and tell too big of a story in too small of a space. Or will Episode III be a 4 hour film?
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Luc Besson !!! Just imagine what he could do visually. Let Lucas write 'em but let someone that has an actual talent for directing direct them! If you've seen the documentory on the DVD people come to Lucas with great ideas and then he pulls out his big "I'm George Lucas" magic marker and fucks it up! Lucas has even out-legened himself. He walks in a room and people are so nervous (to be in THE MAN'S presence) they can't be creative. Such a waste.
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You gotta be joking. The Messenger was just godawful, and the Fifth Element was just silly. If he did direct a Star Wars film, it would be nothing but facial closeups, and ridiculous outfits. What's up with Besson's obsession with head shots? The Messenger should have been called "The Facenger"...
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Did you see ? Phantom Menace? If that wasn't silly I don't know what was. Fifth Element had great performances. Great comedic timing and we know Besson can get a great performance out of Natalie Portman. The Professional anyone???
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Oct 24, 2001 6:08:09 PM CDT
Even Without JAR JAR - Lord of the Rings will kick the clones bo
by hate_speech
Star Wars is for little kids..
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I'm one of the biggest fans you'll meet but I'll be the first to say that Star Wars is completely ridiculous and silly and that's what makes it so great. Gungans, and wookies and jawas oh my. Just think about those 3 words. They're completely stupid, yet we love them. Bib Fortuna, Ki-Adi Mundi, Yoda, great characters, stupid names. Yet we love it. And I know I'll love AOTC just like the other 4 films. In fact I'm even more pumped than I was for TPM cause AOTC has much more to offer. I only hope Jango and Dooku and Zam kick butt. 2 more stupid names, yet everyone will love them! I know I'll have the action figures.
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If the thing is already in theatres, then post it online so we can see it! Nuff said...
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well all the reports of the trailers and the alleged story are making ep2 look like it might just kick ass. The TPM trailers made the movie look much more serious then it was though. in the trailer, the battledroids are these cold, skeleton warriors, i was like cool, evil, until i saw the movie and they said things like "uh, um, uh, uh oh, blast em, uh um, uh, roger roger!" totally killed the intensity. if ep2 just delivers something akin to WHAT IT FEELS LIKE IT MIGHT, we'd have a serious kickass starwars movie. if TPM the movie matched the feeling of TPM the trailer, my god it would have ruled.
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Is Robert Rodriguez. Personally, I think it's fine for Lucas to direct Episode III, especially if Episode II comes through. But if Lucas decides to hand the reigns to someone else, I say Robert Rodriguez. The two of them are already colaborating in the way of HDDV film-making, and Rodriguez is a fantastic director with a sense of visual style and action along with the ability to develop characters properly. But again, I think Lucas will do fine.
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C'mon guys, Star Wars is silly, but at least is believable. The Fifth Element is just silly in an incredulous way. There simply is no comparison between Star Wars and a forgotten Star Wars ripoff piece of trash like The Fifth Element.
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...but this sounds fucking awesome. The whole Darth Vader breathing thing is a damn good idea. God, I sound like such a fan-boy. Um... Star Wars is shit! Yeah! Ahem.
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Ya gotta realize when you see a shockly good trailer and then sit through a ok movie. It's torture... it's like having the hottest woman in the world ask to make love with you and then while durin mid-cortus she passes this ID4'sized gas that shreds buildings and flips cars. The mere distraction of it made you forget how the previous events led up... this reviewer mind you just said he only remembers what he saw in pieces and it was all mixed up. All the minor details sounded the same as TF.net's cept mixed up and not as detailed in this one. BTW... has anyone even gave a review of what was seen on the TPM dvd on a dvd-rom.. isn't the trailer on that?
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The typos continue...anyway, as I'm sure it's been reiterated many times before, I will still further reiterate it--you can't tell the quality of a movie from a trailer. I am guardedly optimistic about the film, but as the TPM DVD demonstrates, there's plenty of cool imagery in a Lucas movie, but 2 minutes and 12 seconds of it can be extremely misrepresentative of (and superior to) the two hour movie it is representing. It's hard to believe that I first saw the Queen's ship almost three years ago. These trailers will have to sell the film this time, as opposed to the Episode I ones, which were meant to start an inevitable six month frenzy. I just hope everyone learned their lessons from last time. By the way, I truly believe that the only title for Ep III can be..."Revenge of the Sith". Why? Well, Ep I and IV were both three words. "The Phantom Menace" (a vague sense of impending doom) and "A New Hope" (the promise of redemption and salvation in the galaxy). Ep II and V are four word titles ("The Empire Strikes Back", which is an aggressive action taken by a particular side of the battle and "Attack of the Clones", also an aggressive action). Ep VI was originally "REVENGE of the Jedi", of course, until Lucas decided that the Jedi didn't believe in revenge. And we all know how Lucas likes to resurrect his unused ideas. Oh yeah, and ROTJ is of course four words. It would make each trilogy similar in path, but headed in opposite directions. Maul also said "At last we will have revenge." But of course this all probably makes too much sense for George. And I also think that in Ep III you'll see that the Emperor gets exponentially 'older' looking because he uses all the dark Force energy he can muster to save a barely living Anakin. I would also expect to see Chewie and the Falcon, as Obi-Wan seems to know Chewie in the cantina. Finally, I would ASSUME that Beetlejuice (from Stern) will play an "unsavory character" in it, preferably an aspiring Sith reject who keeps calling Palpatine "Bin Aladdin". Or something.
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I think the trailer will be shown on ET or online Thusrsday, the night before the release of Monsters, Inc. I'd be surprised if it wasn't. I'm torn being seeing it as soon as possible and seeing it on the big screen! If given the option, I'm afraid I'd have to watch it on t.v. or download it. But if I couldn't I will definitely be seeing Monsters, Inc. on November 2.
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Oct 24, 2001 8:24:01 PM CDT
The other 4 SW films take place in a period of a few days......
by attackingclone
so Anakin and Padme are going to meet and fall in love and get married in a few days, someone who has read spoilers please confirm the time area. Both the descriptions, this one and the romantic one, sound darn cool and meesa cannot wait to see them.
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...is saying that his story is cooler. Our own council we will keep on whose story is cooler. P.S. How dare you take out the double-edged lightsaber and put poor Ray Park out of a job and the life sentence of the convention circuit! How wude!
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...that an extremely well-hidden teaser trailer will be found on the DVD as an Easter Egg shortly after its release in theaters. And by some 'inside' anonymous source. Yeah, I know, I know...the DVD has a starwars.com special DVD-ROM link. But that doesn't change my mind.
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Before actually reading any of this talkback (I mean, it is a Starwars talkaback for crying out loud, 95% of it will just be brain wasting rubbish), I would like to point out the fact that this description is in the same order and description as the one on theforce.net, despite what Harry wants you to believe. It is just from someone else's point of of view (Rashomon!) so it sounds a little different. Otherwise I would say this holds up and is going to be schweet.
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Oct 24, 2001 9:34:27 PM CDT
"Everything I've head so far says Episode 2 is gonna rock" W
by []d[][]v[][]d
and don't email me about it either fuckers. We were given cool original characters in Episode 1 with Darth Maul and Aurra Sing. We are we givin in Episode 2? (This is confirmed by the Official Site, starwars.com, so this isn't spoiler material) We are given a 80-year Count Dooku, a recycled character from Empire Stikes Back, Boba Fett, now named "Jango Fett", played a Maori whom you know most Americans will think is one of those "Muslims", and oh yes, a cute little 10 to 12-year old Boba Fett. To add insult to injury, Obiwan is given a short on top, long in the back, mullet-style haircut. Hayden kid, you are OUR LAST HOPE!
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Oct 24, 2001 9:41:26 PM CDT
Apologies for my Kountry Gramma... I'm heavily medicated at
by []d[][]v[][]d
"Everything I've hear so far says Episode 2 is gonna rock" WHAT THE FUCK IS SO GREAT ABOUT A 80-YEAR OLD SITH APPRENTICE AND A 10-YEAR OLD BOBA FETT IN EPISODE 2?
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and don't email me about it either fuckers. We were given cool original characters in Episode 1 with Darth Maul and Aurra Sing. What are we given in Episode 2? (This is confirmed by the Official Site, starwars.com, so this isn't spoiler material) We are given a 80-year Count Dooku, a recycled character from Empire Stikes Back: Boba Fett, now named "Jango Fett", played a Maori whom you know most Americans will think is one of those "Muslims", and oh yes, a cute little 10 to 12-year old Boba Fett. To add insult to injury, Obiwan is given a short on top, long in the back, mullet-style haircut. Hayden kid, you are OUR LAST HOPE!
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Oct 24, 2001 10:44:42 PM CDT
I have a sneaky suspician this will be much better than "Phanto
by elgyn6655321
I mean, title notwithstanding, the movie sounds cool, based on the previous review and now this.
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That was a damn fine movie! How did it rip off Star Wars? It didn't! That's crazy talk! Crazy talk for crazies! We need a Special Edition Tucker-less DVD right away! And a Special Edition for Leon, one of my favorites. Also. Subway! See Subway! End transmission. This has been a Moment with User ID Indeed!
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...not enough attacking clones. I just can't get enough of clones attacking things.
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...that the PHANTOM MENACE trailers kicked ass too --- and the movie was... well, you know... not very good (to say the least).
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Oct 24, 2001 11:48:08 PM CDT
even though i'm perfectly happy with Lucas directing episode
by a goonie
seriously, if anyone was to take over as director for Episode 3, my choice would be none other than Ridley Scott. me and him have our differences (i hate Gladiator), but the truth is, he's a brilliant guy, and he made two of my favourite movies of all time, two of the GREATEST SCI-FI PICTURES EVER: Alien and Blade Runner. so if there's anyone out there who can do justice to Star Wars, it's Ridley. oh, and by the way, cuz i have to share it on every SW talkback, i love that fucking title!!!!! Attack of the Clones rules!!!!
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Forgive my randomness but...I just bought the new Holy Grail DVD and it has this glitch where the very first word spoken pops up as a subtitle and then remains off for the rest of the movie. My subtitles definitely weren't activated either. Weird. Anyone notice the same thing? You're all going to make fun of me, aren't you?
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when will you learn? WHEN WILL YOU GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING LEARN?!?!?! i cannot freaking understand how y'all are letting your sorry asses fall into the same trap again. i will say this: i was not excited about episode 1. loved the original tril. as any male, american human born in the 70's. not at all caught up in the fervor for episode 1 like all of your sorry asses. you know when i forsook lucas? when those re-releases came out in '97. that's when i knew lucas was lost to this earth. all the changes, save two, in all three films were shit. the two changes i liked where the added scene with biggs (BIGGS!) in ANH and the added shot of the snow creature with all the blood and flesh dripping from its mouth in ESB. all the added effects were shit, the cantina lost its charm, the scene with jabba in ANH was atrocious, and the ending in coruscant of ROTJ was... shit! and he took out the beloved lub-nub ewok song!! anyways, that's when i knew episode 1 would suck. many of my friends were excited, but i didn't give a rat's ass. i saw the first trailer, and everyone was like, "ooh, ahh, this is gonna be fuckin' awesome, my life will have meaning again for the first time since 1983!" and i was like, "what the fuck are you talking about? did we just watch the same trailer? is it fucking opposite day? hey, moose, this is alister. are these the fucking opposite sketches?" because the trailer I SAW sucked! the second i saw jar jar, i was like, it's totally over. and the rest just seemed like flashy, but soulless special effects and really weird acting from natalie portman. so i didn't care about the premiere. but i did see it on opening night because my sucker-ass friends had camped out for tickets. and when the familiar logos came on then the scroll back, all of a sudden, i was like, "holy shit, this is episode 1! i've seen episode 4, i've seen episode 6, but i've never seen episode 1!!" but my excitement died down in about two minutes. then there was the remaining hour and fifty-eight minutes. the degree of it's suckiness far exceeded my wildest negative fantasies. so, now here, we are, waiting for episode 2, and what do i hear over and over again on this sorry ass talkback? "wow, it seems like AOTC just might kick some ass." "wow, if these reports are true, episode 2 is gonna rock!" "wow, i can really taste my own shit with my head shoved this far up my ass!" lemme just say for the record: these reports sound AWFUL! that dialogue on the TFN site is crappity-crap-crap-CRAP. lucas cannot direct. i was so happy when i heard that he was getting help writing the screenplay, but then who did that person turn out to be? A WRITER WHOSE MOST DISTINGUISHED CREDIT THUS FAR IS WORK ON THE YOUNG INDIANA JONES CHRONICLES, which was not even a mediocre show. this is going to be bad. it just is. there was a long period after episode 1 came out where a lot of the fanboys were living in denial, saying to themselves, "it was pretty cool. no, it was a decent star wars movie. no, it really wasn't that bad. it was pretty good." gradually, that was replaced with bitter resentment and hatred. except for a core group who will probably go to their graves telling themselves they liked episode 1. and to those people, i would like to say: you did not like episode 1. no one liked episode 1. even george lucas didn't like episode 1. george lucas hates himself, even more than he hates people in general. in fact, every night, after his wife has gone to sleep, he goes into his bathroom and stares at his face in the mirror and weeps. then he sits on the floor and, still weeping, he wanks it to the thought of jabba's dancing girls. why does everyone lie to themselves like this? it's simple: you poor saps have attached so much importance and anticipation to these films because there is precious little else in your life to actually look forward to, so you can't deal with it when it doesn't meet your expectations 'cos that would force you to face the fact that your lives are meaningless and miserable and empty and completely unsatisfying. before you get angry and think i am attacking you, i say it out of empathy, for i can relate. in fact, i am currently going through a very similar process with the lotr films. but anyways, that's why you now think episode 2 will "kick ass," despite all the excruciatingly obvious evidence to the contrary. so, really it's an understandable reaction. in fact, i take everything i just said back.
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In the start of the second making of AOTC feuture on the official site George says and I quote (well sort of quote) "I'm not a literary film maker, I'm a visual filmmaker, my stories don't rely on the dialogue." And there you have it. Pure genius heh?
Yippeeee!!!
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Your a very strange fellow. Yes indeed......... Speaking of strange chaps, why do Star Wars geeks always have to bash this and that- ie "EpII will kick Matrix2's ass". Maybe you guys just have to enjoy more movies, take them lightly, get over the fact that Phantom Menace wasnt so good and get over your negative attitudes towards every fucken movie. (oh and the trailer seems it will be cool, here's hopes for the movie!)
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Congrats, you've submitted the best anti-SW essay rant for this TalkBack. Is it twisted that I purposely look forward to reading the TalkBacks of the latest AotC news to find the best rants? Well, guys, I admit that that's exactly what I do. Somebody on a previous AotC TalkBack suggested, perhaps sarcastically, that a book of anti-SW rants should be compiled and published. Actually, I think that would be a really good idea, and it would probably sell quite well.
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"the experience of watching Episode I was akin to a raping in a crib"
Let's not exaggerate TOO much. If you really feel that way, you need help buddy. Most of the questions you asked were answered in the movie, you just needed to pay attention. And I'm sure a lot more will be answered in the next two movies.
"Who are the Sith?"
Obviously they were bad guys that were defeated by the Jedi Knights a long time ago. They also come in pairs.
"Why is Naboo important?"
Its Palpatine's homeplanet, so by having it invaded, he stands a good chance of acquiring a sympathy vote.
"What is Obi-Wan's backstory?"
His backstory began with Episode I. Up until then, he was just a Jedi Padawan.
"Why hire Liam Nesson-who looks miserable in his role-for the lead when you have Ewan and Samuel Jackson, two guys who begged to be in the movie?"
I thought Liam Neeson portrayed a solemn, seasoned Jedi Knight perfectly. In a way he is miserable, because he's always making difficult decisions in complex situations. How do you expect him to act?
Ewan plays a much bigger role in Episode II and III, as does Samuel L Jackson.
"and a senator who is a Sithlord for no apparent reason."
For no apparent reason? Jeeze, no wonder you didn't like the movie, you missed the whole point of THE PHANTOM MENACE!
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When the trailer goes online, Im wondering if it will beat the records set previously by The Lord of the Rings? For that Ep2 is coming out in Summer 2002, later than I expected, to trade off with The Lord of the Rings this winter and next winter. This will be the box office battle like we've never seen. The top ten movies in box office came out all in different years. Could we see two movies in one year running to the top. There are other good movies coming out, Spiderman, Time Machine, Matrix2, etc, but my hope isnt with them. To Star Wars and Lord of the Rings fans, see the movie alot, beat the crap out of Titanic's 600 million first place slot.
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Sounds promising. I certainly hope it's a good one. I liked TPM for what it was... An introduction to the saga. I don't really count it as part of the main adventure really. A lot of time, setting up the main background and plot points for an entire series can sometimes get a little boring, seem a little dry, and make the characters one dimensional because you're trying to setup everything and forcefeed the audience a lot of information. My main complaints from TPM were the terrible acting from Jake Lloyd and the actress that played his mother, Jar Jar Binks, and the fact that they can digitally create entire characters yet insist on using the worst looking rubber masks and makeup jobs out of any contemporary SciFi/Fantasy films. Did that last not bother anybody else? For example, in Tatooine (sp), Anakin's little Greedo looking alien friend. It was sooo obviously a little person in a badly fitted rubber suit, and right beside him bounced around the fully cgi Jar Jar. Hmmm... Anyways, still, my complaints aside, I still enjoyed TPM for what it was. 'Thought it was fully entertaining. Definately still posessed the spirit of Star Wars. Looking forward to seeing this one, definately. And as we're talking about alternative director's for Star Wars films, I'm surprised no one's mentioned Speilburg. I think another Lucas/Spielburg collaboration would be awesome. Of course, you'd probably face some of the same quirky problems you face now with Lucas. An obsession with kiddyisms. Anyways... Speaking of Luc Besson, I think the guy that did City of the Lost Children could probably pull off a really cool yet dark Star Wars. And don't hold Alien 4; Resurrection against him. He walked right into that one. Three other directors had previously walked out of that project. That script was doomed from the start. That guy can create some visual masterpieces. And he can still keep it a family film... Albeit an extremely dark family film. Also, I love Ridley Scott, but I don't think it would be good for him to do a Star Wars. He's visually creative... Beautiful, stunning images... But he's way too serious minded. Then again, Legend wasn't bad. But I don't think Scott would be a good choice for the same reason I don't think Gilliam would be a good choice. I think Peter Jackson would do an awesome job with it. But who are we kidding, PJ's schedule should be locked up for the next 3 years. Hmmm... I wonder how weird a Tim Burton Star Wars would be. Though, after PotA, I'm thinking he should stick with his own original scripts. Well, damn, I can't think of anyone else who could do the work justice. Luc Besson? Besson's entertaining, but I think he too should stick with his on thing. Someone else said Rodriquez would be good... After seeing Spy Kids, he could maybe pull it off, but I wouldn't want to chance it... Beside he'd probably insist on making Antonio Banderas a jedi or something. Sam Raimi is too state of the art and experimental with his film style, and the Coens are just too goofy and darkly demented in their own little geeky way. Nope, I think we're stuck with Lucas. Let's see what he does with the second film. Again, I'm looking forward to it.
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Lion King and Forest Gump both came out in '94 but anyway the message is beat Titanic.
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You have the answer and you're not telling? FOWL! Actually, Christopher is right that the movie didn't bother with telling us who Obi Wan, Anakin, or Padme were. I think I read Padme was a pacifist, but that wasn't brought out very well in the film because she's kept mysterious the whole time--she was a character seen from Anakin's point of view, who himself was seen from Qui Gon's point of view, who was seen from his student Obi Wan's eyes, ugh. We certainly didn't know these three characters like we knew Luke or Han or even Leia at the end of A New Hope. Lucas's feeling I think was that he has two more films to tell us who they are so for now he just introduced them. That was unfortunate, I can understand it really pissing off fans. But I really don't see what you think Palpatine's motivation was other than two-dimensional ambition. If that was enough for you, well then you are on Lucas's wavelength. Good for you. ***** As per this rather lame and increasingly redundant "it's only a movie, stop bitching" line, WHY THE HELL NOT BITCH?!!! I didn't hate TPM like so many other people did, but you know what, no one is really being hurt by all this banter. No one is arguing about anything but harmless issues like storytelling charm and dashed expectations. It's useless argument, but at least it's a topic that won't lead to anyone killing any body else because they are so fanatical that they must irradicate the non believers. So some people are exagerrating as if they were getting money for it, big deal. My ass can swallow the moon. You think I'm joking. If it really bothers you, don't read the talkback and you'll feel better. It's not a problem that follows you into that life you want everyone else to get.
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Lucas has said he made all the Star Wars films for kids. BullShit!! Ep 1 is a kids movie. Star Wars was a science fiction film. I say give George $50 million to make Ep 3 and we will see a good film. George is so worried about making a "technical wonder" that he has forgotten the heart that went into Star Wars. Sad, sad, sad.
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Just wanted to say that I really appreciate all the "get well" cards and letters, fellas! The tech's say I should be getting better soon !
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not because i care about the prequels, but because i care about all of you.
just to clarify.
and i kinda take exception to the dude who likened me to the homophobe who is subconsciously worried about his own gayness. not the the point was necessarily not apt - just a harsh comparison.
and if you'll notice, i wasn't lashing out - i retracted everything i said.
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not because i care about the prequels, but because i care about all of you.
just to clarify.
and i kinda take exception to the dude who likened me to the homophobe who is subconsciously worried about his own gayness. not the the point was necessarily not apt - just a harsh comparison.
and if you'll notice, i wasn't lashing out - i retracted everything i said.
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You rule.
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Oct 26, 2001 8:21:09 AM CDT
What is this XXXXX HAS A BEER AND CHEATS ON HIS WIFE shit? Is th
by mad maximus
I've been seeing this alot over the past month or so here, so could someone explain it to me? And Estvez Rex explain to me how you can say write an essay that basically berates SW fans then do an about face and say that you care about us. Somehow your essay did not convey that feeling.
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That is why he doesn't have a father. Notice Shrmi didn't say she was his (natural) mother, but that "the boy has no father." The Sith attempted to clone a pure midichlorian and resulted in Anakin.
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I can' hear it anymore... George Lucas promising: THIS TIME, it will be GORGEOUS!! Bah. He should shut up and practise more!
Episode I was a shit, it was ridiculous, and without ILM, George would direct gay porn... Just imagine, Jar Jar Binks and Boss Nass wrestling in a mud hole, suckin' as hard as they ever did! -
You wouldn't know what entertainment was if Natalie Portman was sucking your dick while watching The Matrix.
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Estevez, you spoke the truth in that post.Don't be ashamed of it. I have very low expectations for AOTC, due to the evidence you mention. However, for LOTR, i have the highest expectations and i expect the film to exceed them.
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