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TOY STORY 3 a complicated journey.

Published at:  Oct 17, 2001 3:40:00 PM CDT

Hey folks, Harry here... Pixar (aka the most brilliant film unit on earth) and Disney have been having 'interesting' backs and forths... A lot of this is about positioning Pixar for the next deal with Disney or as an independent company... Personally, I would love for Pixar to become its own releasing arm... Separate from Disney. Frankly they've been the jewel in Disney's crown since Katzenberg left Disney, and I would love for PIXAR to have the freedom to do whatever it was that Lasseter wanted to do.... Whatever directions he felt he wanted to go in. I know that John once wanted to do a CG adaptation of Chad Oliver's THE SHORES OF ANOTHER SEA, which was a heavy duty serious science fiction story. So that is in Lasseter or was at one point. The future of Pixar is bright no matter where it goes, but I would love to see what they could do on their own legpower.





PREMIERE MAGAZINE quizzes John Lasseter on whether or not "Toy Story 3" will get made. Originally you will recall, TS2 was supposed to go straight to video - Disney apparently want all their sequels to go straight to video. But when it went theatrical and made big time bucks, another theatrical sequel wasn't out of the question and is definetly still on the cards.The Toy Story 3 deal Lasseter hopes to get is : Equal share in profit and financing (Pixar and Disney).

So is Toy Story 3 in the offing? According to Eisner "definetely". Lasseter hedges He's still noodling with story ideas but he would never say never to another sequel. Catmull says that he hopes that Pixar make TS3 "sometime". However, both companies agree that it's not in the pipeline (the next 4 are Monsters Inc, Finding Nemo, an original movie from Lasseter and a film by Bird).

It sounds like putting TS3 on the backburner was Eisner's idea, so they could pursue Lasseter's next orihinal film. "I didn't want to wait until 2008 for John's original idea. We have the right to do a sequel irrespective of the two deals. I don't need a new deal to make Toy Story 3. I can get 5 movies plus Toy Story 3".

Finally, Pixar can't talk Toy Story 3 to another studio. Life is Long though and the brains behind the potential sequel hint that a deal will no doubt be negotiated in the future for the third instalment. "Audiences will almost demand that it be made" they say.
But because John Lasseter can pick and choose what he wants to do next, he will concentrate on his original film.

Clint Morris

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  • Oct 17, 2001 4:17:08 PM CDT

    first?

    by matrix69

    Surely not...

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  • Oct 17, 2001 4:27:53 PM CDT

    Personally, I'm against it, if only because I don't want

    by lance rock

  • Oct 17, 2001 4:53:25 PM CDT

    I agree Chastain! AICN is disappointing me more and more.

    by invader

    Put actual scoops on here or none at all, Harry. After 4 years, I've seen a decline in quality info. I'd rather see fewer topics that are actually "NEW"sworthy, than read an old magazine article. (They begin to remind me of the standard month old "time killing reading" in the dentist's office.)

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  • Oct 17, 2001 4:55:05 PM CDT

    Actually, its more interesting than that

    by leescoresby

    Actually, Harry, Pixar and Disney's Toy Story 3 wrangling is a lot more complicated than this. Pixars original production deal gives Disney four more films. However, Eisner is set on having TS3 be one of them, while Pixar is still under Disney's umbrella, and has (reportedly) been putting heavy pressure on Pixars people. I can't remember the details exactly, but I BELIEVE that the problem stems from Eisners insistence that TS3 come out with the Disney partnership still in existence. If Pixar makes 4 films first, their contract is fulfilled and Disney is left out in the cold. I've read something somewhere about Eisner attempting to strong arm Lasseter into doing TS3 by promising cut advertising and promotion for the originals if Lasseter doesn't see it his way. Conversly, Pixar doesn't REALLY want to strike out independently without the benefit of Disney's releasing arm, so they are using TS3 to negotiate a much fairer contract for the next go round.

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  • Oct 17, 2001 6:06:17 PM CDT

    What the f*** is going on ...

    by horus

    On this site?Half the time the only page loading, is that pesky pop-up!It's not like the sites are being overloaded with traffic , theres very few posts visible on the pages I can actually get to.I used to come here several times a day ..but the pop-ups , real problems loading up pages and lack of any real *cool* news is really starting to show.As for Toy Story 3..why not? I prefered Bug's life to the Toy films ..but theyre still fun.

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  • Just go to panicware.com and download Pop-Up Stopper. It's easy to download, easy to install, easy to use, and it doesn't get in the way. Best of all, it stops pop-up windows before they happen! Now that whoever reads this topic knows this, can they please spread the word so everyone can STOP WHINING ABOUT POP-UP WINDOWS?! It's driving me NUTS!!

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  • Oct 17, 2001 7:00:33 PM CDT

    This is sad.

    by jonquixote

    A months old article. The rapid decay of what used to be my favorite site on the net (and my former homepage). And to top it all off, someone actually expresses a preference for A Bug's Life over the Toy Story movies??*** Anyways, Disney has a deal with Pixar, requiring them to give the Mouse their next few pictures. Eisner, however, does NOT feel that Toy Story 3 is included in this deal..in effect, he's trying to get Pixar to deliver an extra movie under this very pro-Disney arrangement. Let's hope Pixar can get on their own ASAP; they really have been propping up Disney these past few years, and it doesn't look like the house that Walt built is in any danger of shoring up their own weak animation department. *** And as an addendum, does anybody else notice the irony of Harry railing against the 'corporate evils' of companies like Disney, but his own bread-and-butter has been committing the same evils at an accellerated rate (poor service, slow servers, decrease in quality, corporate sellouts)?

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  • Oct 17, 2001 7:14:36 PM CDT

    If, and only if...

    by prometeo

    ...the story focuses now in the little bratt finaly growing up, and those toys going to the attic, or maybe going out on garage sel... anything but yet another "quest"

    I would love to see some dramatic developement of the story.

    oh! and, please, no freaking songs. thanks ^-^

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  • Oct 17, 2001 11:26:58 PM CDT

    Storyline

    by tbrosz

    "...the story focuses now in the little brat finaly growing up, and those toys going to the attic, or maybe going out on garage sale... anything but yet another "quest"..." Been done: "Brave Little Toaster." Could work though--especially if toys are separated widely and have to find each other.

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  • Oct 17, 2001 11:36:24 PM CDT

    Not only an old story

    by niaiserie

    But its an old story from this website, with the same quotes recycled and no new info, what a great way to scrape for hits:

    From AICN in August:
    http://aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=9841

    Bah...

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  • Oct 18, 2001 1:02:38 AM CDT

    You Magnoliafan Whiny Undersexed Dudes

    by jcasnaw

    Over the past 3 years ive came to this site sure ive seen stories that ive seen on other websites before here but above all else Harry Knowles is in a elite class for movie rumour and so forth scoops. His staff is top notch. I come here once twice a day to see his update to look at a review of a movie coming soon between him and Garth Franklin and a few other sites Harry Knowles is Da Man. So what if he puts up a story which is old hes just trying to keep new and exciting stories and not trying to appease some undersexed overweight CGC Player who makes movie rumours his life and knows all even more then comic book guy from the Simpsons. I find it ironic you take time to give these long talkbacks for a story you hate. Damn guys theres a real world out there.

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  • Oct 18, 2001 3:30:30 AM CDT

    Two movies are just fine!

    by essemtee

    The second Toy Story contained so many jokes related to the first movie, and wrapped up everything nicely, especially the way it ended with its big finale. You'd have to have a really, REALLY damn good script, or else it's just going to look like a sequel for profit only. But if anyone can pull it off, it's Pixar. Speaking of which, there sure is a lot of Monsters Inc. merchandise popping up already in stores, even so far as to sell related Halloween costumes... for a movie that opens after October! Now, where's my stuffed Sulley doll?

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  • Oct 18, 2001 3:58:32 AM CDT

    The whole point of Toy Story 2 was growing up and moving on...

    by enigmainyourhead

    ... so doesn't another sequel seem STUPID?!?!?

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  • Oct 18, 2001 1:45:31 PM CDT

    I agree, the third Toy Story must be of exceptional quality

    by jonquixote

    If it isn't, it will just look like a for-profit only sequel. But, then again, the second Toy Story was a for-profit only sequels, as are 99.9% of all sequels. I have faith that, if and when a third one will arise, the quality will be there, provided Lassiter is at the helm.

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  • Oct 19, 2001 9:02:20 AM CDT

    I'm out

    by j. leeland

    I have been a regular reader of this site for five years. I have tolerated the pop-ups(including the Iron Monkey ad which took over my browser). However, I cannot allow to have my time wasted by reading a story that is a virtual reposting of a story two months old which itself was copied from a magazine. Whether it was an honest mistake or just plain lazieness, it most certainly is not 'cool' and categorically is not news.

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  • Oct 19, 2001 1:16:02 PM CDT

    What about "The Invincibles"?

    by ~thesaint~

    Does this mean that "The Invincibles" will not be a Disney release? Or are its characters already part of the Disney staple?

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  • Oct 19, 2001 6:37:59 PM CDT

    Oh, heavens, what will Harry do?

    by mrbadexample

    Why on earth would you post a message saying that you're allegedly going to stop coming to this site? To begin with, you'll be back tomorrow. Also, assuming you don't ever come back, why would we care? Why would Harry care? You're one self-righteous misanthrope who's sick of his valuable porn-time being wasted by pop-ups that finance the free content on this website. Damn... I'm sure Harry is forlorn over your boycott.

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