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Hey folks, Harry here with the brilliant uber Disney Sleuth, Jim Hill. Jim's been away a bit, healing it seems... (Brother can I relate, if only I had Hugh Jackman's immune system) ...But he's back with the latest dish on what's going on around the Mouse House and threats of new glorious potential stories on the Horizon!!! Meanwhile, the one bit he seems to have missed in all his microscopic study of all things NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS is the Broadway Musical that is in full development. Seems that Danny Elfman has signed up and is working to produce a lavish Broadway adaptation of the Henry Selick/Tim Burton/Danny Elfman Masterpiece!!! I would fly in a heartbeat to New York for that!!! Maybe even take Kitten to check it out. If she was on purrrrfectly good manners of course. Here ya go folks...

Hey, Knowles !

Jim Hill here. I know, I know. It's been far too long between e-mails. So what rat hole did I fall down? Well, given your own continuing problems with your back, I'm sure that you'll appreciate how health-based problems can sometimes make it pretty damned difficult to do everything that you want to do. I myself had a truly crummy summer, health-wise. Which meant that I wasn't able to deliver on a lot of stories for AICN when I had wanted to. (I should have clued you into all the trouble that Disney & Pixar were having back when I first heard about it, back in July.)

Anyway ... Thankfully, I'm back on my feet now and ready to start shoveling some truly cool info your way. Stuff about animated films that the Walt Disney Company has already acknowledged as being in the works (I.E. "Sweating Bullets" & "Bears") plus toons that no one outside of the Mouse House is supposed to know anything about (I.E. Disney's return to fairy tales: A lushly animated version of Hans Christian Anderson's classic tale, "The Snow Queen," as well as a wildly comic all CGI version of "Chicken Little" that's being put together by the same team that did "The Emperor's New Groove"). Plus some other snazzy stuff.

But I thought that I'd clue you in to several truly cool things that are going on in Southern California this month. Since you're such a huge fan of Tim Burton's "The Nightmare Before Christmas," I'm sure that you'll be pleased to hear that the Mouse is bringing this masterful motion picture back to the big screen. Mind you, it's only in one location (Hollywood's El Capitan Theatre) and it's only for a brief 10 day run. But -- if everything that I've been hearing about this special limited engagement (Which Disney is hoping to turn into an annual Halloween event in Tinsel Town, by the way) turns out to be true -- it'll still be well worth it for Jack & Sally fans everywhere to come check it out.

Why for? Well, let's start with the stuff you'll find in the lower lounge area. Here, there'll be a display of the actual sets and props used in the creation of this stop-motion masterpiece. Or how about the stuff that will be accompanying every screening of "Nightmare" : Uncut versions of Tim Burton's acclaimed early shorts, "Vincent" and "Frankenweenie."

Of course, if you opt to attend the film's opening night (Friday, October 19th), you're in for an even bigger treat. Noted animation historian (Not to mention the guy who's behind the acclaimed animation website, cartoonresearch.com) Jerry Beck will be hosting a panel discussion about the making of "Nightmare" prior to the movie's 6:30 p.m. screening. I could tell you the names of all the animators who will be taking part in that night's program, all the guys who'll be spilling their guts about what it was like to work with Burton & Selick on this much beloved film ... But you don't want me to spoil everything now, would you, Harry?

Speaking of spoiling things, below I have attached a note that I just received from my pal, DizBiz. He lives in Southern California and the lucky bastard actually made it over to Disneyland last week where (Harry, get ready to personally wet yourself) it seems that Jack Skellington himself has done a floor-to-ceiling makeover of the park's venerable "Haunted Mansion."

WARNING!! Dozens of spoilers lie right ahead. If you're headed out to Anaheim anytime before January 6, 2002 and want to experience Disneyland's "Haunted Mansion" in holiday mode with all of its seasonal surprises in tact, skip on down to the bottom ... where I'll clue you in on some other "Mansion" related surprises that the Mouse supposedly has in the works:









On Friday, September 5th, Disneyland took the wraps off its latest holiday attraction, "Haunted Mansion Holiday." If you are even the slightest fan of Tim Burton's "The Nightmare Before Christmas" and can haul your ass to Anaheim between now and mid January 2002, you owe it to yourself to see "What happens when two holidays collide!"











For a reported $1.2 million (all of which appears to have been spent on guest experience), an entirely new story has been laid over the original Haunted Mansion. From the moment you spot the original ante bellum façade from across New Orleans Square you are aware that something's different. Jack O Lanterns sprout from the wrought iron fence that surrounds the Mansion. Evil wreaths decorate the Haunted Mansion plaques at its entrance and Jack Skellington in his Sandy Claws suit beckons guests to enter.











The Mansion itself is decorated from top to bottom with Jack O Lanterns, skulls and black bunting everywhere. A field of mist enshrouded menacing pumpkins overlooks the courtyard queue.











In the Mansion's lobby, we learn that the Haunted Mansion's 999 happy haunts have heard of Jack Skellington's efforts to transpose Christmas Town's holiday trimmings to his own holiday, Halloween. So they invited him to work his holiday magic on their home. As the doors to the stretching room open, you immediately notice that the familiar mansion portraits are missing. In their place amid the horrid holiday decorations are four lovely stand glass windows of festive holiday images, like children snuggled in bed.











After being told to step to the "dead center" of the room the lights go out and the cutesy images disappear only to be replaced by stripped snakes, ghouls and ghastly creatures of the Nightmare kind. The lights flash and giant cat eyes appear. There's a lighting flash and thunder crash and what to our wandering eyes appears but a ceiling sized grinning Jack Skellington complete with a Sandy Claws hat and beard.

As you exit you find that the gallery too has changed. Filled with images of Jack, Sally and snowmen, each changing the tone of its portrait depending on your point of view. And - it's a whole lot darker in here too.

One of the dumbest things about the old set-up for Disneyland's Haunted Mansion was the huge wasted space opposite the doom buggy boarding area. Not anymore. A giant holiday combination mobile and banner featuring Jack, Lock, Stock, and Barrel wishes you a Merry Christmas. That is until you look closer. The two faced mayor of Halloween Town is holding up the right hand side of the banner. As his face rotates from happy to mad - as in insane for those of you who missed the movie - Merry becomes quite Scary.











The lap bar clamps down and off you go into the bowels of the mansion. Bizarre and oddly shaped presents are piled all around. You pass by a hallway decorated with bones and a memorial dedicated to the memory of Zero, Jack's reindeer dog whose ghost can now be seen floating off in the endless hallway.

Coffins make perfect Christmas gifts and Jack's wrapped one for you complete with a body eager to get out. Meanwhile, Poinsettias with faces and teeth serenade you on your way. Soon they join the Evil Wreath decking himself about the hallway.

Madam Leota's chamber awaits you next. Madam sings the "13 Days of Christmas" as giant Tarot cards dance about her torso less head. Look close if you're a fan of Oogie Boogie. You'll only see him in this room.

In the grand ballroom, where Jack has out done himself spreading holiday cheer, decoration abounds from floor to ceiling. Ghostly gifts dance into the room from Jack's sleigh. The banquet table is all decorated in orange and black tableware is piled high with treats. Pumpkin faces are everywhere and just after the table and before the ballroom dance floor stands the magnificent dead Christmas tree. Decked with orange and off black lights, it's studded with spiders and webs galore. The library too, now exposed for the very first time, gets in on the holiday mode as dancing and twirling books form their very own tree.

It's then off to the attic where presents are stored guarded by a huge snake who's eating Sandy Claws' list of good little girls and boys. Out through the rafters to the graveyard next, it's made over by Jack and frosted with snow supplied by dear Sandy Claws. Made over to resemble Halloween Town's graveyard it even includes the movie's signature curly cue hill. Jack and Zero welcome you to the party. Haunted angels herald the holidays and the graveyard's residents sing a medley of the 999 happy haunt's "Grim Grinning Ghosts" and "What's This," the song that Jack sang in the movie when he discovered Christmas Town.

Ghosts still want to follow you home as you prepare to exit the mansion but not the ones you've come to fear. A group of Jack's favorite frights vie to follow you out into the night. And as you go up the exit ramp, you pass Sally thanking Sandy Claws for making things right.











Sounds truly cool, doesn't it, Harry? Executives at the Oriental Land Company (the folks who actually own and operate Tokyo Disneyland as well as the newly opened Tokyo Disney Seas theme park) seem to think so. They're already allegedly asked Disneyland's entertainment staff to do a "Nightmare" based make-over of their "Haunted Mansion" starting in the 2002 holiday season. And who knows? Maybe WDW's "Haunted Mansion" will also experience Skellington's decorative do-over sometime soon too.

Of course, I know that there are theme park purists out there that won't approve of Disney doing anything to change the original "Haunted Mansion." But what these folks need to remember is that this is only a temporary "Nightmare." That this old Disneyland favorite will go back to looking just as it always has come January 2002. Though -- based on the already overwhelmingly positive response that guests have given the "Mansion" makeover -- it's quite likely that Jack will start calling this part of New Orleans Square home from October 1st through January 6th for many years yet to come.

Again, I'm sure that this news may upset "Mansion" purists. But not as much as *THIS* news probably will: As part of Disneyland's 50th anniversary celebration (Which will kick off in January 2005), the Mouse is supposedly talking about making over several of the park's signature attractions. Rededicating them, if you will. Among the rides that have been reportedly tapped for this special treatment are the "Jungle Cruise," "Space Mountain," "Pirates of the Caribbean" and -- you guessed it -- the "Haunted Mansion."

What would this make-over allegedly entail? Well, at least in the "Haunted Mansion" 's case, it would probably involve swapping out a lot of those 1969 era special effects and replacing them with some state-of-the-art stuff. Plus there's talk of upgrading a lot of the audio animatronic figures as well as folding a few new scares into the place (Free floating holographic spectres, anyone?).

So you'd best check the place out by the Spring of 2004. Otherwise, you're in for a really rude surprise come the Summer of 2005.

Anyway ... I hope that this story (And thanks again for DizBiz for providing such a detailed report on "Haunted Mansion Holiday") is an appropriate seasonal treat for AICN readers. Sorry to have been gone so long between notes, Knowles. I promise that I'll be back with more Disney related goodies very soon.

That's it for today, Harry. Hope you enjoy the story. And please give my best to your Dad & Moriarty, okay?

jrh

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  • Oct. 11, 2001, 10:50 p.m. CST

    FIRST....er...wait

    by rageliss

    No one gives a damn, do they?

  • Oct. 11, 2001, 11:08 p.m. CST

    sweet!

    by Humpmaster 2k

    If only I didn't live in the Boonies of Connecticut I could go see this. Nightmare is one of my favorites, unfortunatley all this cool stuff happens like 900 miles away ah well, c'est la vi...or whatever

  • Oct. 12, 2001, 12:44 a.m. CST

    Nightmare on Broadway

    by TruPhan

    Yes Yes, I am excited. Please, dear God, let this be true.

  • Oct. 12, 2001, 1:13 a.m. CST

    Animator's Panel

    by huck500

    I'm going to this showing of NMBC at the El Capitan on the 19th...would never have known about it except I went there to see The Princess Diaries with my wife. Thanks, Garry Marshall! Is that even how you spell his name?

  • Oct. 12, 2001, 2:27 a.m. CST

    Jack Rules!

    by The Game Master

    The Nightmare Before Christmas is my favorite film of all time. I even make my own Halloween displays in my yard that usually make the city paper, and always is a life-size Jack Skellington the centerpiece. But now, damn, I've got to return to Mouseland! And, I heard about the Broadway show a few years ago, though I thought it was a joke, considering the news appeared on April 1st. Could it be . . . COULD IT BE? that Disney executives are finally taking their heads out of their arses? This, ladies and gentlemen, is a step in the right direction, a glimmer of hope from the Mouse House. Now, I am indeed a "ride purist" (I detested the PC changes to Pirates with the damn food trays), but this seasonal makeover/takeover by Jack sounds like pure bliss for those who visit! My savings are about to be depleted, going into airline tickets and other arrangements . . . see you all in Cali!

  • Oct. 12, 2001, 4:06 a.m. CST

    11. September - a "Nightmare before Christmass"?

    by Blake Falls

    Is

  • Oct. 12, 2001, 4:22 a.m. CST

    Ah..........

    by changoona

    ....that would be sweet. I would give my right Testicle to see 'Nightmare' on the big screen again. I saw the poster at the El Capitan in August and got very excited. But alas, crossing the pond from the U.K again just to see a movie is out of the question, isn't it?

  • Oct. 12, 2001, 4:46 a.m. CST

    I saw Sellick introduce Nightmare in UK

    by batjack

    I was lucky enough to see Henry Sellick introduce 'Nightmare' at the Welsh International Film Festival back a few years ago. So I saw it cold. Still sends tingles down my spines when I remember the impact it had on all of us, even hard-bitten old journos like me. I got to talk to Henry post-showing (I have a feeling that maybe it was the world, or at least, Brit premiere) and he said how thrilled he was at the reception his baby got. I've never been to California, but I think I'll be booking a trans-atlantic flight for November.. Hey, I just found the press pack and bugger me if there isn't the Pin they gave me still in it! Whoa!

  • Oct. 12, 2001, 5:38 a.m. CST

    What about them removing all the guns from the park's attrac

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    It's true, folks. Frontierland, Adventureland, Tomorrowland... anywhere where you might see guns being used in any show / ride / attraction at Dizzy Land is going bye-bye. No more shooting at the hippo on the Jungle Cruise ride, no more air-rifle games at the arcades. All guns are being removed. You heard it here first, I guess.

  • Oct. 12, 2001, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Over 2 Years In The Making

    by DizBiz

    Hi, Just wanted to point out that Haunted Mansion Holiday was over two years in the making. Entertainment - supposedly - refused to do it last year when the budget for the project was cut. As the story goes they opted to wait for a year until they could get full funding to do it right. As far as Sept. 11, goes, the layover was already in full swing when NY, the Pentagon and United Flt 93 were attacked by terrorists. Trust me there was much disscussion in Anaheim and Burbank about wether or not to pull the plug on the Mansion project. Disneyland Resort DID postpone the official announcement of the construction of Tower of Terror coming to Disney's California Adventure. MY 2 CENTS In the end I think they - DISNEY - did the right thing. If we stop doing all the things that define us as a free people or denying ourseleves all forms of diversion then the terrorists have won. Dig out a history book and take a look at the British during WW II. The West End of London was full of theater goers and the movie houses were packed all through out Hitler's bombing raids. They were vigalant and took to shelter when alarms were sounded but for the most part they thumbed their noses at Hitler and continued to live full lives. If I gotta go that's the way I want to do it. MOUSE TRIVIA If you are a Hidden Mickey fan and you ride Holiday Mansion you may notice that the Hidden Mickey on the banquet hall table is missing. If, however, you spotted the Hidden Mickey in NMBC you will have no problem finding him in Haunted Mansion Holiday. Let's just say he is an integral part of the show. C'ya real soon!

  • Oct. 12, 2001, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Over 2 Years In The Making

    by DizBiz

    Hi, Just wanted to point out that Haunted Mansion Holiday was over two years in the making. Entertainment - supposedly - refused to do it last year when the budget for the project was cut. As the story goes they opted to wait for a year until they could get full funding to do it right. As far as Sept. 11, goes, the layover was already in full swing when NY, the Pentagon and United Flt 93 were attacked by terrorists. Trust me there was much disscussion in Anaheim and Burbank about wether or not to pull the plug on the Mansion project. Disneyland Resort DID postpone the official announcement of the construction of Tower of Terror coming to Disney's California Adventure. MY 2 CENTS In the end I think they - DISNEY - did the right thing. If we stop doing all the things that define us as a free people or denying ourseleves all forms of diversion then the terrorists have won. Dig out a history book and take a look at the British during WW II. The West End of London was full of theater goers and the movie houses were packed all through out Hitler's bombing raids. They were vigalant and took to shelter when alarms were sounded but for the most part they thumbed their noses at Hitler and continued to live full lives. If I gotta go that's the way I want to do it. MOUSE TRIVIA If you are a Hidden Mickey fan and you ride Holiday Mansion you may notice that the Hidden Mickey on the banquet hall table is missing. If, however, you spotted the Hidden Mickey in NMBC you will have no problem finding him in Haunted Mansion Holiday. Let's just say he is an integral part of the show. C'ya real soon!

  • Oct. 12, 2001, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Chill the F-out captainmanhatten

    by Patch

    Fuck off you tool. Every message board does need need to be a place for us to go "oh, holy shit, the world is going to hell what will we do, here's what we can do, I KNOW WHATS RIGHT FOR THE WORLD, FUCK ARABS, LOVE ARABS, BLAH,BLAH,BLAH, ETC." If you want that, dick, then go somewhere else but don't come here and call people nerds cause they want to talk about something else, and (god forbid) try not to think and worry about things out of our control.

  • Oct. 12, 2001, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Am I the only one...

    by Boneyard

    ...who thinks it's just WRONG to have the Haunted Mansion CHRISTMAS themed BEFORE HALLOWEEN??? It's bad enough that Christmas encroaches in earlier every year, but the ONE PLACE ON EARTH that should stay scary on HALLOWEEN is the Haunted Mansion. First they have that overbearing Fantasmic music that spoils any mood when visiting the Mansion at Midnight and now this? Sure I know all about set-up time and all of that, but it seems short sighted at best. I just pray this isn't a yearly tradition like "It's a Small World" - to not be able to visit the "true" Haunted Mansion on Halloween would be a great, great loss...

  • Oct. 12, 2001, 7:22 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith Was Right

    by DizBiz

    About starting Christmas early at Disneyland. For the past five years the crowds of Sothern Califronia locals who visit Disneyland during the holdays have increased steadily. Last year after adding a snowfall to the nightly fireworks program the park became so popular they had to close the gates and not let anybody else in on three separate occasions. So yes they have been pushing the start of the holiday season back a little more each year. That bit of news not withstanding this TEMPORARY layover of a new story to the Haunted Mansion is based on Tim Burton's story of how Jack Skellington the Pumpkin King longs to have his holiday HALLOWEEN look all pretty and bright like well Chirstmas and the disasterious results. BTW: Fantazmic is down for the rest of the year. You can enjoy the Mansion without its booming score in the background. I gotta tell you, however, I miss Fantazmic. It made walk-ons of Indiana, Pirates, Mansion and Splash Mtn.

  • Far from it: I swear every stroller had my name on it and every stroller was loaded with clones of my neighbor's screaming, spoiled, heathen/child. But luckily I got in early enough to where all the heathen children had to be fed breakfast first - so NONE of the kewl rides had lines. I got to ride twice in a row, the (at the time) brand new Indiana Jones ride and then it was off to the Haunted Mansion and Space Mountain - both of those we got to ride like three times a piece. Oh and then of course, it's off to the Peter Pan ride, which will always be one of my all time faves! After a day at Dizzneyland, it was OVER. And time to get to Magic Mountain for the Grups (grown up) stuff.....he he he

  • Oct. 13, 2001, 7:10 a.m. CST

    Disneyland's California Adventure: The Unluckiest Place on E

    by derubermax

    Okay, so before the "Star Limo" ride was completly imagineered at Disney -- a ride in which you were SUPPOSED to go at break neck speeds in a limo trying to avoid paparazzi, there was a major tragedy that shocked the world. Princess Diana was killed in a limo accident while speeding away from paparazzi. So the ride was turned into an incredibly slow moving boring ride, go to the above mentioned www.mouseplanet.com for details on what some call the worst ride ever created by Disney. NOW, we have Disney announcing "The Tower of Terror", coming to the California Adventure, and for those of you who have rode this, it is an EXTREMELY COOL attraction. Just like Star Limo would have been. But, of course, another tragedy. September 11th there was yet another Tower of Terror. Twin Towers, in fact. I would like to dub this "The Curse of Disney's California Adventure". We need to be on the lookout for more strange coincidences like this whenever DCA announces another ride to be opened. Let's pray that whole "Armageddon" ride is NEVER EVER MADE!!! Peace out. DerUberMax

  • Oct. 13, 2001, 3:17 p.m. CST

    It's such a minor point I hate to bring it up, BUT...

    by Groovy_Chainsaw

    ... aren't Skellington's li'l ghoulish helpers named Lock, SHOCK, and Barrel ? Just sign me off as another former Suncoast Motion Picture Co. employee who kicks himself every time he thinks of all the NMBC trend merchandise that got marked down to nothing, then eventually thrown out, only to resurface years later selling for fat $$$ on ebay ( wah-wah )

  • Oct. 13, 2001, 4:16 p.m. CST

    MousePlanet had all this first Harry!

    by TourGuide

    Want to really see what happened at Disneyland's Haunted Mansion for the Christmas makeover? MousePlanet.com has the best coverage on it, with a special section full of photos that ran a while back: http://www.mouseplanet.com/images/mansion/index.htm Also their columnist Al Lutz had the info on Disneyland's 50th makeover a few weeks ago: http://www.mouseplanet.com/dig/docs/update.htm Lutz even has some neat info on Danny Elfman's disappointment with the Nightmare / Mansion makeover - they didn't use any of his music.

  • Oct. 13, 2001, 6:19 p.m. CST

    My Bad

    by DizBiz

    You are correct it is Shock not Stock. I plead spell checker laziness. Hey it's hard to proof your own work. Besides I had hoped Jim or Harry might have caught any screw ups. BTW: Tecnically I had this stuff at the same time MousePlanet had it. Things just didn't work out sending it to NH and then on to TX to get it up at the same time. Besides as my editor tells me speed isn't nearly as important as getting the story out to the fans of the movie - that's why it's here instead of a theme park fan site. I too missed Elfman's music but it is NOT completely missing. The music playing as you travel through the graveyard is a medley of HM's Grim Grinning Ghosts and Elfman's, What's This number from the movie.

  • Oct. 14, 2001, 6:16 a.m. CST

    Disney Land was never truly scary at Halloween, in fact they nev

    by Doctor Fate

    Disney land uesd to have a trick or treat type set up around Halloween but they have perty much abondond the idea. People who wanted a truly haunted version of Disneyland found it to be to tame, and when Disney tried to make it a slight bit scarier, the families hated it because it frightened young children. Add to this the fact that a rival park called Knotts berry Farm( not as well known internationaly, and I am not shure of any national intrest outside of the western states, but a very popular in California and neighboring states as a tourist attraction) runs Knotts Scary Farm around Halloween. Knotts is very close to Disneyland and claims Knotts Scary Farm is "the Scariest place on earth". It is not recomended for children under thirteen, and has live monsters which wander through the park and do numerous things to frighten people, they also have six to eight mazes a year, desinged around a theme with live monsters in them also. Because of this event being so close to Disneyland, and thus atracting people who want a scary experience, as opposed to the Happiest place on earth, Disney has sort of given up on Halloween theemed events until this years revamp of the Haunted house.

  • Oct. 14, 2001, 9:49 p.m. CST

    When are they making the "Monkeybone" ride?

    by Elgyn6655321

  • Oct. 15, 2001, midnight CST

    Scariest place for Halloween

    by SK909

    By far, the scariest place I have ever been on Halloween is Halloween Horror Nights at Universal Studios Florida. It was insane. There was practically no light in the park. I remember walking onto Amity Island with my girlfriend and they had so much fog that I could barely see a foot in front of my face. Some monster came out of nowhere and handcuffed us together with some weird things and then just left. We panicked for a little bit, but then some zombie guy came up and said there was a trick to getting out of them. Anyway, other than that they had unbelievable horror mazes built on soundstages, about five of them I think. One of them was set up to be like sunken ship, and I remember the movie maniacs one had a maze section like the shining and an area that looked exactly like the Exorcist with her head spinning and the bed going up and down. Scary shit... ******** About Disney and always cancelling the building of their rides due to tragedies... sounds to me like they do it to save money. They always open parks that barely have any rides in them, and then expect people to pay $50 to get in without complaining. Animal Kingdom is a really good example. Nice park, too bad it only takes 4-5 hours to see the whole thing. My guess is that California Adventure is the same thing. Just like MGM was when it opened in Florida.

  • Oct. 15, 2001, 3:37 a.m. CST

    Haunted Mansion & The Truth about the Tower

    by RobinP

    Ah, on my oft mentioned Florida vacation around Memorial Day of this year I got to spend 5 days at WDW. The highlight for me was The Haunted Mansion. Not scarey, just good old fashioned Halloween fun with Uncle Walt. I loved the dancing ghosts in the ballroom. In fact, I enjoyed it so much I went again. Too much to take in the first time round. I'd love to go again with the "Nightmare" theme. (Have to save up, though. WDW is a loooooong way from Wales) The Tower of Terror was a real close second. Being a total "Zone" geek I was duty bound to ride this. Damn, that WAS a scarey ride. I swear to God on one decent, I couldn't feel my ass on the seat, but I sure felt the restraints on my shoulders. We were falling THAT fast ! Now, on to the proposed reconfiguration. I was told by a guy working in the souvenir store that this was going to happen. They're making it so there are four possible variations on the ride, so you could ride T.O.T. four times and have a different experience each time. The original ride is, as they put it politely, "retired". He wouldn't be drawn on exactly what the changes were though.

  • Oct. 15, 2001, 6:05 a.m. CST

    halloween

    by thebugman

    Halloween is slowly dieing. With more scary stuff on the news, haunted houses are so 1991.

  • Oct. 15, 2001, 10:34 a.m. CST

    DoomBuggies.com

    by ghosthost

    Hey, If you're at all interested in Disney's Haunted Mansion and the NBC makeover, you really should check out www.DoomBuggies.com. The site has everything you could ever want to see or hear about the Haunted Mansion. It's also got free email from HauntedMansion.com, which is the coolest trick-or-treat I've gotten this year.

  • Oct. 16, 2001, 12:05 a.m. CST

    It Was Either This Or Kevin Smith's THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE ASH

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...which would have been quite a ride in itself, with Jay as our host, all covered with ashes and actually groping women when you crowd into that room with no windows and no doors. And they wouldn't be Doom Buggies any more, they'd be Doob Buggies and in that wasted space you'd have moving images of Silent Bob, Walt Flanagan's dog, Trish the Dish and Bartleby but not Loki. Burton had to consent to letting Disney do this ride in order to pay Smith his court award for stealing the ending of JAY & SILENT BOB comics for PLANET OF THE APES. It was proven that Burton was lying when he said, "Anyone who knows me knows I don't read comic books, especially those created by Kevin Smith." Since I know Burton, I can vouch for that. Fairy tales, yes. Comic books, no.

  • Oct. 16, 2001, 7:17 a.m. CST

    Buzz! Where the hell have you been?

    by TimBenzedrine

    You've been away too long, man.

  • Oct. 17, 2001, 1:41 a.m. CST

    I'll withhold my judgment...

    by DarthSnoogans

    I just hope the changes aren't permanent though. Yeah, I'm a crotchety old bastard that wants to relive his childhood. I loved everything about going to Disneyland...even staying at my aunt's apartment which had that odd but not unpleasant smell, the horrible tap water, staying up late riding Big Thunder. The best times were when Papa Doo Run Run, a Beach Boys cover band, would play in Tomorrowland. Going through It's a Small World when you were hot and tired and just needed to unwind for a few minutes. It's just got an atmosphere to it that no other park in the world has been able to duplicate. The Six Flags park near me just doesn't have the same effect when you're riding the tour train and you can see office buildings off to one side. What's really going to be cool is when I take my 2 year old niece there next year, to watch her little eyes light up as we're going through the park. Yeah, Eisner has repeatedly dug up Walt's cryogenically frozen corpse and violated it a few times over the years, but Disneyland's still pretty much the same.

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