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What's The Truth About THE SUM OF ALL FEARS'!
Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.
Okay... so I got about three dozen panicked e-mails that all read about like this one from long-time contributor Otto Maddox:
Hi AICN,
OttoMaddox here again. You know, I don't know if anyone looked at the Internet Movie Database news, but they're reporting that we may never see the Tom Clancy movie THE SUM OF ALL FEARS on the big screen, since there are scenes that just seem a little too disturbing after the events of September 11. I have to say, I'd agree with their decision if we never saw it in theaters, particularly when considering that the movie contains a scene featuring a terrorist attack on a football stadium. It doesn't feel right at all. It should be released, eventually, just not when we're in the midst of a war.
Anyway, here's the link:
Too bad, especially considering that it came from Phil Alden Robinson, the helmer of FIELD OF DREAMS and the cool-as-hell SNEAKERS.
OttoMaddoxI’ve seen this story in a number of other places, too. Too bad it’s completely false. The Canadian journalist who started the ball rolling took an off-the-cuff comment from someone who was decidedly NOT connected to the film and turned it into a major story that’s been picked up by places like THE NEW YORK POST.
Not only have I spoken to sources at Paramount about this, but I’ve spoken to someone close to Mace Neufeld, the film’s producer. It’s not true. Not a word of it. Right now, the film is still set for release in the summer of 2002, with an eye on August. If there is a change in schedule, it wouldn’t be decided until after the first of the year.
There are a lot of asinine overreactions *coughredubbingETdialoguecough* happening in Hollywood right now.
This isn’t one of them.
"Moriarty" out.
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Oooo, look at me! I'm first, I'm first! Oh, and I wanna see "Sum of All Fears," damnit!
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In the book, the terrorists were middle eastern. The Hollywood pc machine changed the villians to neo-nazis so not offend. Now the movie might be delayed due to an actual attack from middle eastern terrorists. And I really don't want to see Ben as Jack Ryan.
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I just gotta say that this country has been filled with a bunch of weak and spineless individuals over the last few years.
We're overly concerned about offending anyone no matter how remote their connection to a particular subject that we can't accomplish anything.
To the studios thinking of pulling, altering, and redubbing films that might "offend" the victims, I say give me a break. Hollywood has a golden opportunity to use its talents to whip up a storm of patriotism and strength in the American people. Who wouldn't want to see Ahnold or Jack Ryan seriously kick some terrorist ass?
To Steven Speilberg: You made a wonderful film in E.T. It' ain't broke so don't fix it.
We've become too much the slaves to "political correctness" in this country. It's pure bullshit. But you can't even say that. After all, some female cows my be offended. Bovine shit doesn't have the same impact.
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I read that story and asked myself "Why are they going to shelve a film which was made on a summer blockbuster budget and is aleady in post-production?" People forget that Hollywood doesn't really have a heart, they only act as such because caring sells.
I guess this means that Sum of All Fears will be a bargain buy over at HSX. (And maybe my stock will go up again).
PS: Fuck your new server, Harry. Fuck it up it's stupid ass. -
I feel a little out of the loop, but will someone post or e-me what these edits are that Spielberg is planning on making? Geez, a little while ago we have "Greedo shooting first" and now this....sigh. Will Tarantino please get into production ASAP?
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I feel a little out of the loop, but will someone post or e-me what these edits are that Spielberg is planning on making? Geez, a little while ago we have "Greedo shooting first" and now this....sigh. Will Tarantino please get into production ASAP?
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I recently received my Godfather DVD Collection and watched the first movie. In one scene, the character of Michael Coreleone is waiting in front of Dempsey's Restaraunt for Solozzo and Capt. McCluskey to pick him up. Not only is Dempsey's no longer open, but Jack Dempsey is long dead. The sight of Dempsey's in this film saddens me. I demand you remove it from your film.
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(one hell of a great album, btw)... the ET edit has to do with the Halloween trick or treating scene when Dee Wallace Stone says that one of the kids looks like a.... get ready.... wait for it...brace yourself, now...a... A.... A TERRORIST!!!!!
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Yep, SUM OF ALL FEARS was at least partially shot in Canada on the cheap. First, I gotta say I LOVE Canada. Practically grew up there. And I also love "real" Canadian films, from LOST AND DELIRIOUS to THE SWEET HEREAFTER to all of Cronenberg's oeuvre. I don't even mind when a budget-skimping Hollywood production sets the film in a Canadian locale, a la THE SCORE. What I'm tired of is cheapskate Hollywood producers hiring A-list actors and directors then skimping on the production budget by filming in Canada, only to try to pass Toronto or Montreal or Vancouver off as a well-known American city whose geography and topography it no way resembles! The Jack Ryan series have up to this point been at the very least slick, well-produced blockbusters. Why switch now to this bargain-basement plan? How cheesy would it look if suddenly the Bond films starting filming in Toronto and tried to pass it off as England or Russia or Jamaica??? We all know what to expect SUM to look like, given the Paramount/DC-set precedent of ALONG CAME A SPIDER, which was in classic "shot in Toronto" style. Elie Samaha's Franchise studio is also legendary for this -- see ANGEL EYES, DRIVEN, GET CARTER, 3000 MILES TO GRACELAND, even THE PLEDGE. Even X-MEN suffered from this, as the "New York" on screen was entirely unconvincing. These films have good casts and directors, but suffer from a lack of strong production design, as the background locations are always wholly generic, with the well-known monuments of the city in which the film is set appearing only in all-too-obvious second unit footage as scene traditions. Again, that's not a slam against Canada, which is a GORGEOUS country. Unfortunately, we never get to see that in these American-set films, since the director's always too busy trying to mask that it IS Canada, leaving us with New York/Chicago set films with WAY too many shots in generic alleys (ANGEL EYES, BAIT, AMERICAN PSYCHO), overcast skies inexplicably popping up in locales that should be clear and sunny (3000 MILES, ALONG CAME A SPIDER, DRIVEN), forest-green trees appearing in the most unlikely topographical places (DRIVEN, RUMBLE IN THE BRONX, every movie ever shot there). Anyway, Neufeld and Robinson's choice to shoot this thing on the cheap shows they couldn't be bothered to go all out on their film. When's the last movie by Scorsese, Spielberg, the Scott brothers, Burton, Lucas, Fincher, PTA, Tarantino, Bay, Stone, Woody Allen, Boorman, Zemeckis, DePalma, etc., that tried to pass off obvious Canadian locations as America?
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Oct 11, 2001 5:07:00 PM CDT
So how come I haven't heard a single word about BLACK HAWK D
by cash bailey
Christ, if any movie was gonna be given the chop it'd be that one.
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Oct 11, 2001 6:29:56 PM CDT
So what? Hollywood butchers another good book into PC mush.
by will collier
This thing is already a travesty that should have already been shelved. I still can't believe that Hollywood is this gutless and hidebound by ridiculous political correctness. Oh, yeah, neo-Nazis. That's a believeable plot twist, and a completely reasonable villain for a movie set in the 21st century. You all recall how moronic, misfit, no-resources skinheads have been conducting international terrorism for the last thirty years--hey, how hard could it be for them to build A THERMONUCLEAR WEAPON?? In 1942, sure, that's worth a fictional story, and Nazis are great movie villains when portrayed in their true evil and correct era. But in 2001? This has to be the dumbest, most insulting waffle to being "innofensive" I've EVER seen. Wait, I thought the mark of a true "artist" was the ability to BE offensive (at least that's what we were all told about, say, "Last Temptation of Christ"). Hey, you movie morons--Tom Clancy knew what he was doing when he wrote the book. The book was a huge success. What makes you think you're smarter than Tom Clancy?
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Oct 11, 2001 8:42:20 PM CDT
The real story is Warner Bros. has stopped production of their C
by mgthedj
Before you flame please read. "Debt of Honor" is about how Jack Ryan becomes president. He's CIA director and he is picked to stay behind during the State of the Union Address. Terrorists crash a passanger airliner into the Capitol during the speech killing the Pres., VP, House Speaker, Pres. Pro Temp. of the Senate, and all cabinate members ahead of Ryan in succession. WB commissioned a script cloning this novel: an attack happens and the lone cabinate member is now Pres., but no charaters named Jack Ryan, John Clark, etc. This clone has been shelved as of this week. As for "Sum of All Fears", they should have kept the terrorists the same.******SPOILER SPOILER*******The novel ends with the masterminds being executed by a Middle Eastern government. The method is beheading with a sword. Very appropriate and sends a message to the rest of the region that these acts will not be tolerated.**********END SPOILER END SPOILER END SPOILER******* But I wish "Windtalkers" had not been pushed until Summer 2002.-----later-----m
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I once had an idea for a movie that was like this, though it was more of a dark comedy. In the President's cabinet, those who sit closest to him are the most important, and those who are fartest are the least important, such as the Secretary Of Veteran Affairs. My idea involved this one cabinet member being the one left out during a State Of the Union, and becoming President when the capital building is attacked.
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Just as those who said Sum would be shelved were wrong, there's a lot of misinformation floating around about what's in the film and how it's been made.
For instance, Will Collier is all upset about the bad guys being skinheads. There are no skinheads in this movie.
Charles Grady is convinced - without having seen a frame of the film - that it's "on the cheap" and "bargain basement". Not what I hear. The word in town is that it's got great production value, and is anything but cheap. (By the way, the decision to shoot in canada was the studio's, not Neufeld's and Robinson's.)
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For anyone that hasn't read it... or tried to, the first 600 pages are nothing of interest. Just a lot of personal and political crap that never amounts to anything storywise. But around pg 600 action finally happens in the form of a minor nuclear explosion of the superbowl. After that the last 200 pages of the book were a decent read. But I rank this book pretty low for the jack ryan series. Unfortunately I gave up reading the series after exectuve orders. It just got repetitve and bland after debt of honor. What I'd love to see made into a movie is without remorse. Now that would kick serious ass.
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Question for you MGTHEDJ, have you actually read "Debt of Honor"? If you had then you would have known that Jack Ryan was behind not because it was the State of the Union Address, it was because Vice-President Ed Kealty had resigned from office as a result of a sex scandal and the President Andrew Durling had appointed Ryan as Vice-President until the end of the term. He and his family were in the tunnel after the joint session of Congress had confirmed him when Sato crashed the jet liner in to the Capitol building. He was about to enter the chamber to take the oath when the plane hit. That is how Jack Ryan became President. If you are going to refer to a book, do us all a favor and at least get the plot right.
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