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Andromeda 2.1 FAQ
What’s it called?
“The Widening Gyre.”
When does it air?
The sydicated “Andromeda” will have its second-season premiere in most North American markets today, Saturday, Oct. 6.
What does TV Guide say?
Very little!
The big news?
We learn one of the show’s main characters will have to carry deadly Magog fetuses in his or her belly as this season wears on.
Ew! Who has to carry these deadly fetuses? Is it the Andromeda’s resident Magog, Rev Bem?
It’s not Rev. And it’s not the android Rommie.
Um, it’s been a long summer. What are Magog again?
They’re basically marginally more mammalian versions the title creatures in the “Alien” movies. They spew acid, they’re ruthless and violent, they like to rape, impregnate and cocoon other living creatures (not necessarily female living creatures). No one who carries a Magog fetus lives through childbirth.
This impregnated crew member? How long before he or she goes into labor?
Hard to say. The preggers crewmember is told to keep taking injections which keep the Magog fetuses dormant. But if this crewmember misses an injection, much unpleasantness will ensue.
So the Magog-carrying crewmember is safe as long as he or she remembers his or her injections?
For the moment. But we’re told that, at some time in the indeterminate future, the injections that keep the Magog fetuses dormant will lose effectiveness.
Can the Magog fetuses be surgically removed?
Nope. The little bastards wrap themselves around the impregnated person’s vital organs, preventing this.
I heard that Capt. Dylan Hunt & Co. will have a pressing need to rebuild the commonwealth in a big hot hurry this season. Do we learn why this episode?
We do.
Do we finally learn more about purple catbabe Trance’s origins or her strange probability powers?
(Herc sighs) No.
Back up a bit. How did last season’s cliffhanger end again?
Andromeda (the starship) discovered something in her memory banks about a 300-year-old botched mission, and freaked out. Long story short: everybody ended up at the Magog homeworld – actually twenty hollow planets joined together, lit by an artificial sun, filled with trillions of Magog and heading toward the Commonwealth.
Oh yeah. The ship was overrun by hoards of Magog!
Andromeda had giant holes blasted in her by point singularity bombs. Rommie got impaled by the Magog leader Bloodmist and stuck to a wall. Harper and Tyr were paralyzed, infested with Magog eggs, and taken back to the Magog worldship. Rev ripped off his peacenick Wayist medallion and went after them (but it was unclear whether he'd gone to rescue Harper and Tyr or switch sides and join his brothers). And Dylan, Beka and Trance were all lying unconscious on the shattered command deck.
Didn’t Herc say one of the crew actually dies?
Yeah. Trance has no life signs. For like five seconds. (She’s a catgirl, remember? More than one life? Get it? Get it?)
Didn’t Bloodmist offer to take Rev to his maker?
He did. Some key dialogue from last season’s finale:
BLOODMIST: Join us. We will restore to you all you have lost. Your history. Your culture. Your pride.
REV: We have no culture! We have no history!
BLOODMIST: None that you know of! But you’re of those who went before. The first ones. For ten generations you have lived in ignorance – until now! Now that the hour of the awakening approaches. Follow me, Redplague, and I will show you the face of God, then all will be revealed!
REV (brandishing his Wayist medallion): I have seen the face of the divine! I see it every day! In the Universe! In all the divine’s creations!
BLOODMIST: Do you believe you were made by The Creator?
REV: All things are created by the divine!
BLOODMIST: All things but us! Hear my words. There is still time for you. But now I must go. I have pressing business elsewhere.
Does Rev meet his maker this week?
He does. “Underneath the hatred there is love,” notes Rev.
Didn’t Herc have a bunch of spoilers for the second season?
He did.
What were they again? I mean, besides Trance dying for five seconds?
The ship puts the two giant battlebots in its hold to work. And the nerdiest Lone Gunman, Bruce Harwood, has reportedly signed on for a recurring role as a nerdy spy – a spy Rommie has to retrieve from a world that hates and fears androids. Oh yeah, and we’ll learn Enigma’s connection to the fall of the Commonwealth!
Do we see any of this in the premiere?
The battlebots. Rommie deploys them. They’re named Tweedledee and Tweedledum. They make the Magog hurt.
Anything else big happen in 2.1?
Beka has to decide whether to follow Dylan’s order to launch a Nova Bomb at the Magog home system – even though Dylan and Rommie are still stuck in said system.
What’s good?
Tyr’s tales of survival. Rommie’s combat outfit. The bouncing baby Magogs.
What’s not so good?
I was hoping Rev would learn more when he met his maker.
Herc’s rating for “Andromeda” 2.1?
***
The Hercules T. Strong Rating System:
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Syndicated or no, will have a hard time (at least for me) competing with Enterprise and SU 2...
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I wasn't a regular watcher of Andromeda at first but after the season finale this is on my list of season premieres I have to see a few below Buffy and Angel, just below the X-Files and a few above EFC.
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Sorry to sound like i'm gloating or something :)
A kick ass kick off to the new season from the one show that I think is constantly under-rated.
Glad to see that their is now a little more purpose to the show (instead of "one man's dream") but one gripe....
Why have they dumped the marvelously original guitar based theme tune in favour of the dulldulldull closing theme from last year... -
One thing is that it's nice to see is that the programme makers have basically said that the Magog are an engineered species, and so they get around the whole issue of how a species as markedly non-toolusing as they are managed to achieve space/star travel, let alone intelligence.
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I saw this episode 2 weeks ago. I live in Canada and I think that for once we got the jump on the States for a premiere.
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Honestly, I've enjoyed many a crappy TV show, movie, Comic, book, video game, etc. But how anyone can like and actually look forward to watching Andromeda is beyond me. Sorry fans, I just don't get it. (But what's scarier? Die hard Sliders fans. They're out there and they have no taste at all) Particularly with Farscape kicking so much ass. Why is Farscape news so non-existant? Not that's it's Herc's fault (even when I don't like the shows I like his rat-a-tat style.) It seems like no place has 'scape info and ahead of time leaks like Star Trek, X-Files, etc. Is Australia that far removed from everything?
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3. Kevin Sorbo's circa 1981 hairstyle. ***** 2. Make-up work looks as if done by Sid and Marty Kroft. (That rat guy in the pilot? Come on!) ***** 1. Technology on the show is brilliantly imaginative. For 1963.
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Roxanne Dawson is SO pretty, I can forgive a lot.
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Oct 06, 2001 1:53:10 PM CDT
Question will this season suck as much as what has come before
by spoits
well will it
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So you're saying that my user ID (heh-hee-hee!) "Village Idiot" (woo-ha-ha-ha!) is apt because you think I'm an idiot! HA HA HA HA HA! STOP IT. OH MY GOD, you're killing me!! BWA HA HA HA! Oh God, so clever! [Wipes tear from his eye.] Oh man!
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Oct 06, 2001 2:18:30 PM CDT
Andromeda is like a merger between Star Trek and Cleopatra 2525.
by bigw
...but it's usually OK as long as it doesn't take itself too seriously. I don't go out of my way to watch it, but if it's on, and I'm bored...eh...
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The technology of Andromeda and the affect on the surrounding culture all fits within the 19th century naval paradigm (BWOO-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA! I'm sorry, it's just that whole "Village Idiot"/apt thing. Still cracking me up! God!), ahem, the 19th century naval paradigm of so much mass science fiction of the 20th century. Take for example the development of artificial intelligence. The implications of artificial intelligence (i.e., new, differently dynamic forms of consciousness) extend way beyond what they've presented on the show in the way of Rommi. In another example, all aliens conveniently fit within the anthropoidal configuration. There is absolutely nothing innovative about this show or it's view of the future. Again, it fits, like Star Trek, within that 19th century naval paradigm. Other science fiction works have been able to look beyond that, and I had been hoping that perhaps Andromeda would as well. It doesn't.
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To paraphrase: "Worst show... Ever!"
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cause Trance and Andromeda are the hottest sci-fi chickadees after T'pol. I think Andromeda should copy Broken Bow and do a jelly shower scene...
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I can tell this is going to be a fun topic already the ST geeks are already bashing this show and the new season hasn't even started yet.
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Wait a danged minute here HERC! You said that Tyr and Harper were dragged off, infested with maggog babies (little bastards!!). Ok, but now it seems that only one character dies and that is for 5 seconds. Well wait a damned minute here...if only one dies for 5 seconds then how come only one member has to take injections to survive. Shouldn't either Tyr (yeah right) or Harper (dead man walking) be dead by the end of episode 1??? So doesn't this mean that TWO people died in this episode! -
Oct 06, 2001 6:05:38 PM CDT
Hard Sci -Fi , low budget looks equal another craptacular series
by electric_monk
I've never bashed this series, but I have to say, it's about time! My God, what an awful piece of flotsam this is (of course, its better than, say NightMan ever was). This is like a good show to watch if you only have one year to live, because every show is an eternity. As for the show being hardcore sci fi, is really streching things (beyond Sorbo's bad Charlie's Angels haircut). Just because its got Artificial Intelligence does not make it a freaking Isaac Asimov novel. The show is silly, like Sorbo's pedantic Hercules series. It has no redeeming value otherwise to fill an hour of TV on Saturday afternoon between wrestling and reruns of Baywatch. The series cannot even hold a candle to Blake 7 or even Babylon 5, a series that never captured my attention for its bad acting cast of characters, but at least was better written. Tribune likes to produce this shit cheaply, so they can produce other shit cheaply. Andromeda is what it is, which is bad, bad, bad, and badly made escapist TV. If you like that sort of thing, go ahead. However, for something that is better, watch Farscape. Now that's quality.
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I don't like the set design. The ship just doesn't look like I think a ship should. I don't like the looks of the alien cast. I don't like the way everyone always wears the same cloths. When they aren't in uniform they always wear the same outfit. The damn show just isn't advertised enough to succeed. I have no idea when this show is on the air. It may have some good points, and be worthy of a good long run, but they have to advertise the thing.
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Credibility fading, fading. . .I meant to say *Lexa Doig* aka Rommie. Although I have nothing particularly against Dawson, I was referring to Doig, who, let's face it, is a real 20th Century Fox!
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I have greatly enjoyed probably 5 episodes of the first season (Fear and Loathing..., 'That bride episode', Harper 2.0, Season Finale, and the 'Q episode'.) Problem is that there were a lot of 'bad' episodes, too. 'Prison Planet'-Seen it a million times before and knew how it was going to end. 'Baby Borg'-Yup, I pretty much guessed Rommie was going to be screwed with. 'Dr. Daniel Jackson episode'-Ok, but I think the 'bare arms=bad asses' motif was starting to get overused... Andromeda is not the greatest SF show to ever hit TV, but I suspect that this next season MIGHT just kick it up a level or two. BTW: I don't mind Sorbo's hairstyle in the show, but please return Trance's hairstyle to the one she had in Harper 2.0 (Kinda straight and parted a bit over her forehead, looked a lot nicer than her 'pulled back' style.)
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Yup, you heard me right. Farscape has seriously spun the wheels so far this season, with so many non-deaths that it's getting to the point where we don't feel any threat to the characters. I like Andromeda because it has a pulpy, Lensman sort of feel to it, and frankly, I think the Andromeda universe is incredibly imaginative (check out the historical info on the official site, it's pretty detailed). And to answer 2Gold's question, Tyr WAS infested. They used him as a guinea pig to test the procedure for removing the larvae, and it damn near killed him, which is why they don't want to try it on Harper.
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Oct 06, 2001 10:48:55 PM CDT
Saw it last month, plus the next one, empire strikes back + trem
by harry oaks
What's the deal with Hercules' weapon? It's embarassing - just like his hair. That robot girl is super foxy and why don't we get to see more of the purple girl? I was hoping Gordon M. would just throw himself into the nuclear reactor. Shit or get off the pot, Reb!
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Man, I was channel surfing today and I discovered that Video & Arcade Top 10, the glorified Nintendo infomercial, is still being shown on YTV. Man, I thought they cancelled that in the mid-90s. It's a terrible, terrible video game show, but I have to be thankful that it did give Lexa Doig (Rommy) her first big break at Canadian superstardom. (Gordon Wolvett (Seamus) was also a host of V&AT10 actually; for a much longer period of time too. By the way, does anyone else find it ironic that "PJ Gord" plays about the most aggressively heterosexual character in the history of syndicated sci-fi TV? Almost as though Gord is overcompensating for something, hmm? Not that there's anything wrong with that.)
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I just heard the new opening... God it sucks. I mean, the original opening music wasn't great to start with, but this new opening credits sequence is the most pussified SF opening I've seen/heard in a while...
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For those who are complaning about Kevin Sorbo's hairstyle I believed he changed it if you look at the opening credits you can tell that he got rid of his long hair and cut it short btw what is up with that new intro music I really like the first season into better.
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It was fun to see some ass-kicking in Andromeda, and finally some plots that did NOT involve the bad guys of the week merely flying into their perpetually open hangar doors and taking over. C'mon, haven't they ever heard of CLOSING the damn hangar door? Still, magog are fun, lots of magog are more fun. I did have a problem with the point singularity weapon. Not in its execution, but why they kept flying in front of the damn thing. It was coming out of one of the planets in the array, yet all they had to do was launch the nova bomb from the other damn side and stay on that side. Sheesh! It's not easy to aim a damn planet at you, c'mon Rommie! I am excited about this season though. Finally they have a clear and present danger to help them form a commonwealth and a REASON to do it. Hopefully this will give the season a strong story arc like Buffy or Farscape.
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What I like about Andromada is the characters. Every character in the show is interesting. You've got Tyr, who is both incredibly strong and intelligent. Also, he has no interest in forming the Commonwealth and is purely self-motivated. It's great that the rest of the crew must continually convince him this is in his best interests. Also, he is complex and simple at the same time. We can always expect Tyr to do whatever is best for Tyr. Then you've got the Idealist reformer, the recovering drug addict, the Spiritual guy, the genius who never hesitates to remind you he is a genius, and the voice of Innocence. It is the characters that make the show. When I began to watch the show, I knew I'd like it when in the second episode, an entire star-system was destroyed. Andromada is a much darker show than Star Trek. In Star Trek, they'd never allow ten-year olds to blow up whole star systems. Andramada is in a darker universe, where they don't have the luxuries the crew had in Star Trek. This and the use of Nietzschean philosophy are what make Andromada interesting.
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Give me a break! Andromeda is good, fun SF: pretty people playing interesting characters taking part in a noble endeavor (often in spite of themselves) with plotlines that are not resolved at the end of each episode. Isn't that enough?
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I come to this site in order to pick up news on Farscape and the new B5 TV movie and what do I find?
Bizarre news reports on obscure and poorly written shows such as Andromeda and news on E.R.!!!!
What is going on? Farscape is creating a real buzz here in the UK whilst news of a new Trek series has simply made people groan in dispair.I don't remember ever seeing any mention of Farscape in the news pages which is odd since its knocking out breath taking episodes. Not just my view but that of TV critics.
If Farscape has yet to catch on in the States, then I'm sure it will. I'm just surprised that AICN is so slow to recognise this.
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There has been very little coverage of Farscape on AICN.Just this past week, Sci Fi annouced it had odered two more full season's of 22 episodes. That's 44 for the idgits who can't add. That brings it too a record five year run on the cable network. While Sci Fi has it own site, both AICN and Dark Horizons have used links to them when news breaks over them. Strangly, I had to read about it in the newspaper. The freakin' newspaper, that's not very instant as this site. Look how quickly you guys brought the cancelled Emmy's. Why no Farscape news?
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Damn it damn it damn it. This show is one of the few good sci-fi programs out there and it works, if you'll take five minutes and watch the show with and open mind.
yes there is some formula to the show, and yes the production values are not the highest, but at least they can get a full body costume and haven't done some stupid cartoon episode, and their ship doesn't need birth control pills.
Lets be honest Farscape scraps the bottom of Jim Henson's muppet barrel, the shows are slow and boring and all the plots are out of 70's import cartoons.
Show me one race on Farscape that is as Cool as the Nietzscheans, or maybe all the farscrape races just suck wind.
I don't think you can find a bit of farscrape or space drek that is worth the nova bomb it would take to blow them out of the solar system.
Faker
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Listen this is kind of the last thing I want to be doing right now but I guess I have no choice. Both Andromeda and Farscape are great because of their characters. This is exactly why Voyager failed and the inherant danger that faces Enterprise. Characters are what drives these shows and the sci-fi plots are, for the most part, contrived and not in themselves unique. Andromeda, while looking to be just another cheasy show, is constantly shaping up to be more than it appears: characters with their own agendas, moral ambiguity, and an ongoing thread that seems to be coming to the surface rather well.
In many ways it reminds me of the first season of Farscape. Hey Scapers, remember how everything on that show changed after the Season 2 premiere? Maybe people don't prefer the "darker look" of Farscape or Henson's puppets. That's fine. I still say you're missing out on something fantastic. As far sci-fi, the best arc of episodes on any show that I have seen (barring in B5 when they take back Earth) is Farscape's "Liars, Guns, and Money" which deals with them knocking over a bank. Great stuff and great acting. Farscape continues to dazzle. And for that matter, Andromeda continues to please me. I don't care if you like one or the other, they are both better than most of the sci-fi that's out there. Andromeda also has a purple girl that love with all my heart too! Zubalove Out! -
Amazing and simply breathtaking. Sci-Fi.com have out up a new CGI led trailer of the new B5 Rangers movie and already it packs more of a punch in 15 seconds than all the junk covered in Coaxial!!!
It looks like Enterprise could be in a lot of trouble... :)
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