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Lord of the Rings Coolness In New York Sept 9th!!!

Hey folks, Harry here... This Sunday in New York a special LORD OF THE RINGS presentation/cool-as-heck thing is going down! There isn't a ton of details yet (those you'll provide after attending), but who knows... you may get to see the CANNES reel... you may get to see behind the scenes stuff that noone has seen before... or possibly something we can't even think of... Here's the info... investigate... be a spy... live the high life... ENJOY...

WELCOME TO MIDDLE EARTH: A LOOK BEHIND THE SCENES OF THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING Devotees of J.R.R. Tolkien’s extraordinary trilogy will be treated this Christmas to the first installment in the epic film version by New Zealand director Peter Jackson (Heavenly Creatures, The Frighteners), starring Elijah Wood as Frodo, Ian Holm as Bilbo, Liv Tyler as Arwen Undomiel and Cate Blanchett as Galadriel. Join us for an evening with some of the creators behind the trilogy, and a tantalizing peek at what is sure to be a one-of-a-kind, epic cinematic journey. Sun Sept 9: 7:30 & 9:30

Private premiere screening for the Film Society of Lincoln Center's Young Friends of Film members. To join Young Friends of Film, please call Will McCord at 212-875-5630. Thurs Sept 6: 7:30 Click Here For More Info!!!

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  • Sept. 5, 2001, midnight CST


    by thinboyslim

    n e news for LOTR to be shown over the pond?

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Final Version?

    by cliometrician

    Wait a minute! Is this the absolute final version of LOR that is being screened, or could more editing take place?

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 2:29 a.m. CST

    no no No NO!

    by Neosamurai85

    Ok that

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 2:51 a.m. CST

    Yeah, what's up with the moth?

    by wilko185

    "Gandalf uses a moth to supply a message to the eagles"!?!? Seems very out of character to me (were moths associated with the Vala Lorien, and hence Olorin? Don't think so...). BTW it must be Peter Noone from Hermans Hermits who's seen the footage (he tells a true story of being paged at the airport with the words "Can Mr. No One report to the information desk? That's Mr Peter No One..." That was probably when he realised his fame was on the wane...)

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 3:14 a.m. CST

    oh, er that was a SPOILER by the way

    by wilko185

    sorry bout that. I must stop reading these things. There's a whole bunch of litttle plot changes which are I've read and that are really starting to annoy me, but maybe it'll work in the film. The overall tone is the important thing (but is a *moth* really *consistent*<fret about nothin..>?___You guys are right, this is deja vu news (cgi?id=9958) but it's been a while since the last LOTR TB so what the hell

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 4:15 a.m. CST


    by zackiechan6

    I have 2 tickets to this...but i'm still afraid it's going to be really lame. I'm preparing for the worst...watching the trailer for 2 hours, or something like that...but if I see cannes footage? I will urinize in my pants...

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 4:29 a.m. CST

    God Bless Peter Jackson

    by JAGUART

    May he deliver us from the evil that has infested Hollywood. Amen

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 5:11 a.m. CST

    More Tix Available

    by mrbeaks

    They added a 9:30 PM show. See you there!

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 6:31 a.m. CST

    I'll be there @ 9:30

    by Germster

    This thing is gonna kick ass and im SO excited that i'm going. I will also be attending the Scorsese thing Friday night with a Musketeer screening following...what a weekend to be a movie fan in NYC

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Woo-hoo! I got in with 7 tickets left to go!

    by rap12

    There will, of course, be a slew of updates to the event on this site and maybe elsewhere...we will pass on whatever happens. Man, I really love this site sometimes!

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 10:45 a.m. CST

    SPOILER: Gandalf uses a Sumatran Rat Monkey to send a message to

    by Pallando Blue

    There, see? A "moth" doesn't sound so bad now, does it! ;-)

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 1 p.m. CST


    by zackiechan6

    why don't you guys tell us lucky few what you'd like to know, if there's a Q&A? I'd feel honored to be there as an AICN spy once again... I gotta call and find out what they'll be showing...if even THEY know...

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 1:14 p.m. CST

    I find this very hard to believe...

    by BG

    ...about this moth. I mean, it's a bloody long haul for a moth to fly from Isengard over the mountains and all the way to the Eagles eyrie. We know the Eagles can talk, but a talking moth! And why a moth? How does that fit with the spirit of the book? And why would an Eagle listen to a moth, it would more likely just eat it or stand on it. There have been good reasons behind every confirmed story change we've seen so far, but I'm buggered if I can think of a single one for this moth! Can somebody please get hold of the calendar in question and explain the evidence for this rumour.

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 2:49 p.m. CST


    by BG you are enjoying my discomfort, truly thou art the evil one! No, fair enough, I have been on your case many times in the past about story changes. In my defence I only lambast when I can see reasonable (IMHO) reasons to make changes, but I'm completely at a loss with this moth! For that reason I refuse to believe it's true, and if it is true, when that scene comes on during the movie I'll close my eyes, stick my fingers in my ears and begin chanting "It'snothappening it'snothappening it'snothappening" ;-)

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 3:47 p.m. CST

    You're THAT worried about the moth?

    by zackiechan6

    hmm...I don't know if i care so much about the moth...I've been reading the tolkienonline forums all day, and i think I've warmed up to it. I still have no idea what they're going to show...or who these "creators" they'll have there are. It better not be some lame extra. I want some bigwigs! If the moth problem is still a big deal then, I'll probably ask it, then.

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 4:57 p.m. CST

    HUGE SPOILER!! Bad News, you may not want to read this!!

    by Pallando Blue

    The damn moth is wearing plate armor! PLATE ARMOR! Dammit, PJ, did you think we wouldn't find OUT?? Headline! 60-pt type: "SUPPORT WITHDRAWN!" Beneath, 25-pt.: "Jackson Sobbing, Inconsolable" Photo caption: "Director wails, 'It's only a little plate armor!'" *** M.Mofo, for shame, for shame. You obviously need to eBay yerself a copy of Braindead (not Dead Alive) if you didn't catch the reference! The Sumatran Rat Monkey, in wonderful stop-motion animation (done by PJ himself), is what bites Lionel's mother at the zoo, startin' the whole zombificatin' chain reaction. (But it's really a romantic comedy.) These ARE, remember, PJ's roots--like I said, a moth ain't so bad ;-) btw you're dead on--that review was AWESOME! *** zackiechan(#), if we're gonna be getting into little details like armor-plated moth questions, mind asking if there's going to be a Wolf fight occurring after Caradhras, on the way to Moria? (Just reread that bit--a kick-ASS li'l skirmish.) But a more general question that's been on my mind, ask if they have any guesstimation or semi-planned cut length of Two Towers and/or ROTK. You know, give or take 10 minutes, like. The rumors have been that FOTR's the longest, but even with all the backstory, I can't see the next two being shorter than Fellowship--too much to cover, and we haven't heard of any huge chunks cut like Bombadil and the Barrows were.... And bug 'em about the Scouring! Be relentless!

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 4:58 p.m. CST

    I hosed it!

    by Pallando Blue

    My bad! I'm in the middle somewheres!

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Response to Neosamurai85........

    by AttackingClone

    wow you sure seem to be a big fan of the book, seeing as you've got the story in 1 whole book, but in case anyone else noticed, it was written by J.R.R Tolkien not "Token". and it is a film trilogy. Im workin with morons here!

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 6:15 p.m. CST


    by zackiechan6

    now, the Wizard-Kabob is one I'D like to know about...but i think you're right...just FOTR questions, i would imagine. also depends on who's there...

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 6:43 p.m. CST

    Re: AttackingClone

    by Neosamurai85


  • Sept. 5, 2001, 9:39 p.m. CST

    re: moth

    by BG

    From the sound of the discussions over on the TolkienOnline message boards this is petty much a fact. Here is something I copied from a post over there by somebody called Jersey - "I am mystified by the vehemence of the reaction to Gandalf's messenger moth. Having actually seen how this works in the film and having FELT that this was perfect, beautiful, a lovely and utterly fitting extrapolation... I guess that I had to try and put myself in the shoes of someone who just hears this thing alluded to, but who hasn't seen how well it works. This is one of those fairly elegiac moments that does actually convey "pure LOTR'ism" for my money. For me this is one of the shining examples of introducing an added element (the moth) in a stunningly cinematic fashion and allowing simple staging, lighting and actor's performance to communicate in a way that's believable (within the context of the world we're observing) and does exactly what Leo stated: convey the nature vs. machine theme; differentiate Gandalf from Saruman in his methods; and show us Tolkien-style "magic" at its most poetic and simple. I've seen the moth. I love the moth. The moth is not stupid. I stand behind the moth 100\%! Wildwood, go see the movie just to be proven wrong by this one scene, if not by any other. " This quote does not reflect my own opinion, but I thought I'd post it as this guy claims to have seen the moth.

  • Sept. 5, 2001, 10:19 p.m. CST


    by Skyway Moaters

    Neosamurai85 said it better than I ever have! Having said so however, I must point out that he MISSED the main reason that LOTR does not qualify as a TRILOGY (YE GODS! how I've come to loath that word!)LOTR is not a trilogy for the simple fact that none of the three parts RESOLVE on their own! You must read all three "installments" in order to understand what's going on.

  • Sept. 6, 2001, 12:58 p.m. CST

    I've got a spare ticket for the 7:30 talk. . .

    by RenoNevada2000

    And I'll sell it to the first person who contacts me at my email at If I don't hear from anybody by 4 pm EST tomorrow (Friday), I'm going to start looking elsewhere. . .

  • Sept. 6, 2001, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Slow down, Mofo...

    by greenleaf

    What's that about AWESOME footage being screened in AWESOME Montr

  • Sept. 7, 2001, 12:35 a.m. CST

    not bothered, just bemused

    by wilko185

    by the moth.__Presumably Gandalf tells the moth who tells the sparrow who tells the thrush who tells the crow who tells the eagle...But this whole "communing with Nature" motif jars (IMO). Resource to some "universal force of nature' seems a like a cop-out to me(Gandalf tells some random fauna a message and it safely gets to its target...where else in Tolkien can low-level creatures even comprehend important messages, let alone safely transmit them? OK, in the Hobbit thrushes learnt speech and passed on messages, which seems sort ofreasonable, but insects??) Gah.***Re Other "spoilers", well if I can stand the context of the "she-elf" comment, then I guess I can take the language.***Greenleaf: Re Montreal, I spent some time there earlier this year and I loved it, it is an "awesome" city, but I agree witb Miami-the guy doing the spy report sounded like a plan with "awesomes" every other sentence...

  • Sept. 7, 2001, 12:45 a.m. CST

    that should be, ' sounded llike a PLANT

    by wilko185

    but that don't mean I think he was one ( (remove the hyphen), I'm sure plants are far more subtle....

  • Sept. 7, 2001, 8:34 p.m. CST


    by JD1866

    'Legolas Greenleaf long under tree/In joy thou has lived. Beware of the Sea!/If thou hearest the cry of the gull on the shore,/Thy heart shall then rest in the forest no more.' Smoooch!