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SPECIAL ADDITIONS AND EXTRA INFO ADDED: A look at 20 Minutes of LORD OF THE RINGS footage screened in Australia!!!

ADDED DETAILS AFTER THE ORIGINAL STORY!!!!

Hey folks, Harry here... Well, here is a fella that is luckier than you or me (unless you happen to be working on LOTR or are an exec at New Line), because he's seen 20 minutes of footage from LORD OF THE RINGS that we really really really want to see. Now there is a problem with the below description by Wide Mouthed Frog... First... he doesn't really know the story for LORD OF THE RINGS, sort of like those folks that kinda know STAR WARS.... They know the names of Darth Vader and Yoda... but refer to Harrison Ford as Harrison Ford and Alec Guinness as that. Now on the up side, he isn't chained by the emotional baggage of having the books in his head while looking at the footage.... yet he still loves what he saw! This is very important towards the success of these films. Will non-LOTR fans GET it? From this report... ummmm... yeah, I think they will. ALSO, he has an oh so slight nitpick with the English accents on Sam and Frodo, but says it is acceptable.... It should be noted that anything other than an american accent would, at first, see slightly odd coming out of Elijah or Astin's mouths... but it is something we get used to over the course of the film... As even this guy accepted it. Alright, now sit back and enjoy this report... You are about to get real excited...

Hey Harry

Today in Sydney, Executive Mark Ordesky (from New Line) presented 20 minutes of raw footage of THE LORD OF THE RINGS to potential licencees.

All of the footage had temp soundtracks, but all dialogue seemed complete, and several scenes, whilst not really heavy on SFX, looked very much finalised.

I managed to hypnotise the usher with my voodoo Krusty Doll, and heard/saw the following from the aisle.

ORDESKY'S SPEECH

He spoke very generally about the spirit that had developed over the making of the films. He seemed genuine when he said that this project was the one that he felt would be New Line's legacy, and was the most exciting thing that they had ever worked on. That there was a spirit of PASSION amongst everyone who was working on the films - essentially that there would be easier ways for a lot of the people involved to be making more money, but that everyone was aware that they were part of history in the making. (Aside: I have heard similar speeches from Hollywood execs about their upcoming films that they were 'so excited' about before... YAWN.... but for once this guy was actually convincing. I was thinking about using the Krusty doll to get him to take me back to NZ with him, but it's too cold down there).

He said that apparently one of the first things that happened in the making of all the props was that they built an actual armoury factory to make master copies of all the weapons in (?)steel in the way that they would have been made a thousand years ago... so that when the props people made duplications in the thousands, every single prop would look and feel like it was genuine, not a cheap rip off. When Viggo Mortensen was given his sword, he literally carried it around with him for three months, so it would feel like it was part of him.

THE SCENES

There were (I think) nine or ten scenes, some ranging from a minute, some for 4 or 5. They were shown in sequential, but not consecutive, order.. I think that all were from the first film, with the exception of the last scene which was from the end of the 2nd. I will tell you as much as I can remember from each of the scenes.

IMPORTANT NOTE - I DON'T KNOW THE BOOKS VERY WELL - I have a vague recollection of the story from when I read Fellowship 15 years ago, but I am not going to pretend to say the names of the key characters, even though I'm sure many readers will immediately know who I should be referring to. I apologise if some of the assumptions about the story I have made are wrong... just tryin to do my best.

THE SET-UP

From what I can remember, the 'Ring' in question, created by an evil lord with the power to enslave the world, has fallen (by accident?) into the hands of a hobbit clan, and is currently held by descendent Frodo (Elijah Wood). Gandalf has arrived to help tell him what to do with it.

FIRST SCENE SHOWN

Gandalf arriving at Bag End.

First note: the Hobbit getup on Wood looks superb. The big feet and ears don't look fake, and the movement is completely natural.

Second note: Wood speaks with an English accent. (Actually, they all do..) Hasn't mastered it completely, but within seconds I felt that the casting of this kid was very smart. He has a very compelling mix of intelligence and wide-eyed wonder... Clearly he will be carrying the films, and he's GREAT.

McKellen as Gandalf is also great casting - he's got a majesty and dignity but also a weariness.. he's obviously seen a lot in his time. Looks like a real wizard, not a guy in a cape with a funny hat.

The scene essentially consists of Frodo on a mossy ledge on the LHS of the screen, with Gandalf approaching the frame on the RHS on a horsedrawn carriage. There's some repartee that makes you initially think there's some antagonism or they aren't familiar with each other, but it's just a playful joke - they're both obviously thrilled to see each other (again?)

SECOND SCENE SHOWN

Gandalf and Frodo in a cabin (Frodo's home?) Painted portraits of Hobbit cousins/family in that English countryside fashion above the fireplace. Cute. It appears Frodo has thrown the ring, encased in a letter, onto the fire. As the pages are scorched, the simple gold ring is revealed. Gandalf tells Frodo to pick it up, and examine it. "It won't be hot" he says. "What is on the ring?" - it seems Gandalf isn't sure that the ring is the one he fears. Frodo holds it up to the light - the outside of the ring is unmarked ...and then it seems it isn't. As Frodo turns the ring in the light, writing (unintelligible) scorches itself across the width of the band, and the light is reflected in red across Frodo's face and the fireplace. Gandalf is clearly freaked, Frodo asks what the writing means. Gandalf says (the lines that end the first teaser trailer) "One ring to rule them all... one ring to find them... one ring to bring them all... and in the darkness bind them".. except his face shows that this is some pretty serious shit. He says words to the effect that, as a wizard, he's wasted his life on stupid and silly magic.. here now was something completely of another level.

THIRD SCENE SHOWN

Frodo and three other Hobbits on the road... I presume they have set off to dispose of the ring. Sean Astin is one of them, and again speaks with an English accent that isn't entirely 100%, but isn't too distracting. The four hobbits have fallen off the side of the road and are tumbling down a hill, and stop to admire some mushrooms (for what properties I have no idea...) Frodo senses that something is stirring on the path ahead... the others don't seem to concerned, but as a strange blue mist comes ahead of them he screams for all of them to jump over to the RHS and under a ledge...as a SERIOUS SCARY DUDE ON A BIG BLACK MOTHERFUCKIN HORSE IN A CAPE bounds by.

Clearly this guy is on the case of Frodo and the ring. In one of those slightly annoying scenes, the hunter comes about 10 cm from the ledge where Frodo is (scared as shit), but misses him. The hunter rides off and the hobbits bolt further into a town.

(NOTE: the hunter is clearly not human, mostly because it makes the sound of DEATH - sort of a cross between a banshee wail and the sound of a rat being tortured. Yeeeesh. Not good. V. creepy in fact.)

As he rides off, it's clear he's not on his own - two others ride in from other directions and they all take off together back down the path.

FOURTH SCENE SHOWN

The Hobbits arriving into a town and taking shelter in a pub (the PRANCING PONY), where they are supposed to be meeting Gandalf. (Aside: I swear that one of the faces of the villagers that they pass looked a lot like Peter Jackson. He looks right into frame... seemed a bit obvious for a Hitchcock-type cameo, and I could be very wrong, but I thought it was him). A conversation occurs between the publican and Frodo about whether Gandalf is there or not (he's not). Cool shot of the barman looking down at the Hobbits - they're so short they rest underneath the ledge of the bar. Proportions look pretty cool, actually. Scene ends, from memory, with the introduction of Viggo Mortensen as an enigmatic warrior type.

FIFTH SCENE

Frodo, Mortensen and the other three hobbits are fast asleep in one of the rooms of the hotel. Suddenly the team of banshee-death-sword-carrying-mutherfuckers-in-capes enter the room, and all raise their swords in the air, and massacre the shapes in the beds beneath them!

...except in one of those Silence Of The Lambs-climax-tricky-they're-in-the-wrong-room edits we realise that it's not the room whether the hobbits are sleeping. Mortensen has clearly realised they're being followed, and have taken them all to a room across the street. They can see the 'attack' from the window. Frodo asks who they are. Mortensen says words to the effect of that they were once great warriors, heroes even, who were offered eternal life by the evil lord who owned the ring. Now they had become enslaved to him, to do his bidding.

SIXTH SCENE

I must confess I didn't really understand this one. It was of a different wizard, all in white, in a cave. Could it have been Christopher Lee? I'm not sure. Maybe. He seemed to have conjured, created or trained some sort of ghoul, that looked a little like a demon from Buffy, crossed with one of those bounding monsters from Ghostbusters 2, except taller, and had had a bucket of blue paint thrown over him. I am probably appearing disrespectful to the monster crew, but these are simple descriptive impressions. Essentially the wizard seemed to have some sort of gripe, and was gearing this bastard of a thing to do his bidding. He didn't look very happy, nor very nice. Lots of teeth gnashing and unpleasantness.

SEVENTH SCENE

Mortensen and the Hobbits on a snowcovered mountain - looking they were seriously high up in the NZ alps. Sean Bean was also part of the team at this point - I couldn't work out who his character was (a compatriot of Mortensen?) Interesting scene here: as Bean talked to Frodo, and came closer to the ring, he seemed to be slightly disoriented, and perhaps manevolent. Snapped out of it quickly, but something strange was going on, and Frodo could sense it.

EIGHTH SCENE

One of conflict between Mortensen and Frodo near the peak of this mountain.. as the two are face to face, Mortensen seems overcome with rage and conflict, and it looks like he's about to attack his (friend?). Mortensen pulls away, out of a daze, and whispers "RUN" to Frodo - it's as though he's aware he can't control his behaviour for much longer.

Opinion - clearly the ring, despite being an inanimate object, wields a type of intense force that disorients and changes behaviour. I couldn't quite work out whether/how Frodo was being affected at this point.

At the end of this scene it seemed Frodo did the bolt while Mortensen stayed to field a huge battalion of creatures just around the corner. Gulp.

NINTH SCENE

A very quick sequence of the gorgeous Liv Tyler on horseback, being chased through a forest by a team of hunters. Frodo was on the back of her horse in a cape, looking seriously ill & blue to the face.

TENTH SCENE

The beginnings of what seemed to be a large group of good warriors held up in a big fortress, attempting to fend off an attack of a thousand serious angry demons or bad guys with swords and your usual fortress-raiding equipment. Not overly bloody per. Gladiator or Braveheart, but still very intense nonetheless. The scene meant nothing in context - it was just a serious battle.

I think this was the scene that was from the end of the second of the films.

FINAL REACTION

Clearly, we were shown no footage of any of the characters other than those mentioned. Not a word out of Liv, no sign of Cate Blanchett, Hugo Weaving, etc. etc.

There was also not a single special effect, apart from the mist in the fourth scene. Bummer.

What was really cool was the film seemed REAL - the landscape felt genuine and naturalistic, even in a medieval -type context. The real thing that stood out for me was how well Elijah Wood seemed to TAKE the screen so confidently. He didn't seem like a kid. He had a sense of dignity and awe that made me feel like "Yup, I want to see this guy through this story."

I really can't comment on any of the other performances, apart from McKellen carrying all the grace and gravity that you would expect.

Most of all, it was simply amazing to realise YES, THESE MOVIES ARE COMING SOON (albeit a year or so). I felt thrilled they they were coming from a slightly left of centre studio, one that had the sense to stand back and let Peter Jackson do his thing.

Life was not so bad today.

Till next time

THE WIDE-MOUTHED FROG.

THE NEW STUFF.....

Hey folks, Harry here again.... And after reading some rather frantic-y e-mails... I was all set to write a new intro to the above because I saw quite a bit of paranoid over-reaction going on.... FOLKS... CHILL PILL PLEASE! Wide-Mouthed Frog is NOT a studio plant.... LORD OF THE RINGS doesn't need one.... DRIVEN does... This doesn't. Alright... Here's what you should know. WHEN studios do licensing presentations they take a reel of footage that is A)In no way... a complete A to B type thing.... it is a sampling... sort of a Appetizer Mixed Plate.... Giving the potential financial partner an idea of the many varied opportunities and characters and locales... It is also supposed to give you a sense of TONE and FEEL for the story and level of competency. B) WIDE - MOUTHED FROG in many cases made assumptions and leaps of logics and was at a loss for words to describe what he was seeing because... There were no frames of reference for him.... He isn't very familiar at all with the source material... BUT HE DID LIKE WHAT HE SAW QUITE A BIT. And lastly C) I know there have not been many reports about footage that has been screened... though they have been screening stuff in a few places... Like during CANNES this year to foreign distributors (and from what I heard it was the same 20 minutes) BUT you folks have got to understand that this fella didn't really grok to the fact that everytime he saw Frodo and Gandalf together... THAT WAS A SPECIAL EFFECT.... now the mere fact he didn't mention that sort of thing... you should take GREAT courage and hope from.... That means the effects were INVISIBLE.... Now.... Wide Mouthed Frog has written in to clarify on some of the issues and cries for clarification that some of you have made.... Here ya go....

Harry

I've been reading some of the talkback messages about my report, and thought I would clarify some of the points/questions.

1. I am not a fucking studio plant.

2. I wrote the report at one a.m in the morning. I didn't realise that every word I wrote would be picked over to death (D'OH! How could I be so naive...) and could be reinterpreted in a hundred different ways.

EIGHT HOURS LATER... EXTRA THINGS THAT NEED TO BE SAID:

I don't think I made it clear enough that the scenes didn't necessarily follow each other. They were shown in the order they would appear in the film, BUT NOT IN DIRECT SEQUENCE - It could well be the case that there was a gap of years between scenes, including the first and second. One of the talkbackers suggested that Gandalf was arriving at the beginning to attend a party.. apparently in the book when Gandalf and Frodo examine the ring, it's several years later? ...this well could have been the case.

SCENE TWO

It probably was Gandalf that threw the ring into the fire. I presumed it was Frodo, but was probably wrong. The scene actually started with the ring in the fire. I don't think the exact words "It won't be hot" and "What does it say" were used; that was just the essence of the dialogue. I think it could have been Frodo that asked what the words were, but Gandalf definitely asked him to read it, and told him the ring would not be hot to touch.

SCENE THREE

I didn't realise that the dude in the cape with screech had bad eyesight - this would make sense as to why he didn't see Frodo. Also, perhaps too much was made of the mist - it wasn't dramatic or thick or fast or swirly (the mist in PRINCE OF EGYPT that went through the village this was NOT). It was more like dust that had a faint blueish tinge to it. Maybe it was sort of like a 'scout'... and it did also seem to be the case that only Frodo saw it.... but then again that could have been because all the other hobbits were getting stuck into looking for the mushrooms. Also, this was the only time the mist was seen - it didn't appear in any of the other shots of the badasses on horses.

SCENE FOUR

I may have been wrong about whether Mortensen was with Frodo and Sean Bean in this scene on the mountain... I thought he was, but then again I may have made this assumption because he was in the scene before (which could have been a lot earlier in the film). Sean Bean's character seemed to have a lot of attitude.

SCENE FIVE

I shouldn't have said the words 'peaks of the mountain' here - in fact it wasn't icy at all, they just seemed to be high up somewhere, in some sort of old castle or ruins or something.. like a little circular amphitheatre without the seats.. I think it was circular anyway. It was definitely Frodo and Mortensen though. Mortensen told him to RUN.

ONE MORE THING -

I AM NOT A FUCKING STUDIO PLANT. Forgive me if I was supposed to know the book back to front. I didn't go with the intention of sending this report but as soon as it started I realised I was seeing something pretty special and you guys might be keen to hear about. The footage was only run once - sorry if I have caused confusion, but I'm pretty sure that what I've said is accurate. One more thing - I felt that the film was going to be amazing, because something that Ordesky said rang true. I didn't feel like I was watching a 'movie'... I lost sense of myself in another world. I wanna go back for more something shocking. The year's wait is gonna kill me.

THE WIDE MOUTHED FROG

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11:31:01 AM
Err...morpheus
by Seepgood
Nov 16th, 2000
03:35:07 PM
"...down along its course came a plumed cavalry of waves. White
by Seepgood
Nov 16th, 2000
03:47:35 PM
Welcome back to the prodigal son...er...
by Skyway Moaters
Nov 16th, 2000
06:24:01 PM
MorG
by Seepgood
Nov 16th, 2000
07:39:57 PM
$%#@%^&it you sooty old cheerleader you!...
by Skyway Moaters
Nov 16th, 2000
07:50:37 PM
accents
by Julie-bean
Nov 17th, 2000
01:31:37 AM
seepgood,Morg
by morpheus
Nov 17th, 2000
06:32:42 AM
Magic
by morpheus
Nov 17th, 2000
06:53:35 AM
of course, but
by Ghan
Nov 17th, 2000
10:16:35 AM
Cellophane knickers?!!
by greenleaf
Nov 17th, 2000
02:03:46 PM
Ripping on George Lucas
by Navigator
Nov 17th, 2000
02:12:19 PM
Gandalf the Miracle Worker ?!....
by Skyway Moaters
Nov 17th, 2000
03:26:57 PM
Er, no, I meant mocking me
by Seepgood
Nov 17th, 2000
04:15:12 PM
morGoth & Inconsistencies
by Southron
Nov 17th, 2000
04:47:47 PM
Why is...
by JD1866
Nov 17th, 2000
06:10:15 PM
A preemptive strike for any nimrods...
by Skyway Moaters
Nov 17th, 2000
06:31:45 PM
GAAAAH Typos !..
by Skyway Moaters
Nov 17th, 2000
06:35:43 PM
Magic In Middle-Earth
by Goodgulf
Nov 17th, 2000
09:49:01 PM
Magic again
by morpheus
Nov 19th, 2000
12:38:50 AM
Ramblings on "magic"...
by JD1866
Nov 19th, 2000
01:18:53 PM
Tom Bombadil & Magic
by Goodgulf
Nov 19th, 2000
09:44:41 PM
goodgulf
by morpheus
Nov 20th, 2000
12:09:54 AM
Is anyone else like really distracted and annoyed....
by Skyway Moaters
Nov 20th, 2000
03:40:53 PM
Cate Blanchett must look to be magic.
by Tinuviel70
Nov 20th, 2000
06:31:01 PM
Tinuviel70...
by JD1866
Nov 20th, 2000
10:07:47 PM
Begging your pardon
by morpheus
Nov 21st, 2000
02:12:19 AM
BLA-HA-HA-HA-HAAAAA!! Hey, and we thought WE were Tolkien geeks!
by Pallando Blue
Nov 21st, 2000
10:25:24 AM
Still laughing! Can't resist!
by Pallando Blue
Nov 21st, 2000
10:56:52 AM
Oyez, one more thing
by Pallando Blue
Nov 21st, 2000
01:04:06 PM
(#$%!*%@!! 'return' key!)
by Pallando Blue
Nov 21st, 2000
01:08:19 PM
An alternate explanation PB...
by Skyway Moaters
Nov 21st, 2000
05:50:22 PM
Well maybe they aren't THAT sticky...
by Skyway Moaters
Nov 21st, 2000
06:07:07 PM
Morpheus - Magic Stuff
by Goodgulf
Nov 21st, 2000
07:25:30 PM
elves and magic...
by Elian Ranel
Nov 21st, 2000
10:24:42 PM
Apologies
by JD1866
Nov 21st, 2000
10:59:35 PM
Elian Ranel & The Elvish Sins
by Goodgulf
Nov 22nd, 2000
09:43:28 PM
that's not the point...
by Elian Ranel
Nov 22nd, 2000
11:16:17 PM
Good and evil
by morpheus
Nov 23rd, 2000
01:33:58 AM
Long time no talk
by Sir Mordred
Nov 24th, 2000
12:30:17 AM
I'm innocent!...
by Skyway Moaters
Nov 24th, 2000
03:28:00 PM
Huh?
by greenleaf
Nov 24th, 2000
04:37:40 PM
Elian Ranel My Apology
by Goodgulf
Nov 24th, 2000
08:28:52 PM
morgoth inconsistency - Arwen
by ellessar
Nov 25th, 2000
11:08:30 AM
Cirdan had a Beard? What? When?
by Sir Mordred
Nov 25th, 2000
02:55:40 PM
AWK! first morG an' now Mordred...
by Skyway Moaters
Nov 26th, 2000
03:22:29 PM
Historical Arthurian Legends
by Sir Mordred
Nov 26th, 2000
03:38:37 PM
Hot Damn!
by Skyway Moaters
Nov 26th, 2000
03:39:39 PM
IT'S NOT A &%$*ING TRILOGY!!!!
by Sir Mordred
Nov 26th, 2000
03:56:41 PM
Note on Elostirion
by greenleaf
Nov 26th, 2000
07:31:46 PM
PS. This is in the Silmarillion
by greenleaf
Nov 26th, 2000
07:39:01 PM
Yes! Go now!
by Sir Mordred
Nov 26th, 2000
11:15:19 PM
Morg!!!! and everyone else!!!!
by Sir Mordred
Nov 28th, 2000
09:11:13 PM
(PSSSSSST!! Pippin's Diamond! any other Tail-Enders!)
by Pallando Blue
Dec 1st, 2000
10:39:21 AM

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