Torso... Torso!... TORSO!!! Fincher... Fincher!... FINCHER!!!

Well, I'm sure there will be a lot of people standing or sitting and talking. Awkwardly. Awesome.

I'll take Bendis. Holy shit, that's incredible...I just re-read "Torso" last weekend because it's WICKED FUCKIN' COOL. Now ya tell me this. Life is strange.

That's right, Kevin! I actually want to see him in a lead role... Don't tell anyone!

Who does he think he is, Mark Paul Gosselaar? Sean William Scott? Chad Michael Murray? Michael Jai White? Harry Dean Stanton? Neil Patrick Harris? Mary Kate Olson? Brian Austin Green? Ashley Parker Angel?

A Fincher film would be awesome.

I just stumbled across the trailer Quint was talking about this morning as I was browsing through the DVD features of ZOMBI 3. How weird is that? SPASMO!!!!!

Just sayin'.

I know the movie version of cp's survivor is gonna suck

If Fincher is only gonna make movies every several years, maybe some of them should NOT be about serial killers. In my opinion. But I will watch it anyway.

Wasn't Seven his only movie about a serial killer? Alien3, Seven, Fight Club, Panic Room.....that's about it I thought.

...but I see your point. Is that 'Curious Incident of Benjamin Button' project still going? I'm actually really glad they got Fincher to take care of 'Torso.' Not so sure about the screenwriter though.

Still, you never know...

Yeah, I'm really sure Fincher is doing YET ANOTHER serial killer movie. I bet at most he produces or something, if he's involved at all.

Fincher did Seven (Se7en, whatever) a film about a serial killer. He just finished Zodiac, a film about a serial killer, and this would make three... Torso (or Tor5o)

and one horrid movie that helped kill a franchise in Alien3. that pile of shit he dumped on the previous two great movies that had set the table for him is near unforgiveable. Seven was pedestrian, pretentious, and unsatisying. Panic Room? can you say made-for-tv-movie? the main reason Fight Club was so good was the writing, the concept. without a good writer to prop him up Fincher has little to bring to the table except that acid wash thing he uses post production to get the "gritty realistic look". oohhh aahhhh. this sounds like it will end up being Silence of the Seven. why is it that Micheal Bay, who aren't necessarily the next all-time great but still have made some decent fun flicks, get so much hate and disdain on here while a one trick pony like Fincher gets the "he's so special" treatment.

Well, I guess the reason why Fincher is fairly well-liked is that most people don't agree with Peven that he is a "one trick pony". So Se7en was pedestrian? Hmm... it's currently #43 in the IMDB's top 250, simply because the movie is pretty damn good. And if you want "satisfying" movies, then I guess Michael Bay is really the best director for you. ;-) Panic Room may not be the best movie ever, but it's still decent entertainment and anyone with just the most basic knowledge about the Alien franchise knows why Alien 3 turned out the way it did (unlike Joss Whedon, who disowned Alien Resurrection only _after_ he realized that people didn't like it, Fincher left Alien 3 already before post-production was done). Actually, I think that given the conditions under which the movie was made it still turned out to be surprisingly good, to a large extent due to Fincher's direction and the ideas he injected into the franchise. The only bad thing that I can say about Fincher is that I'll track him down to kick him in the balls if he makes just ONE more movie about a serial killer. ---- Now having written this, I may realize that Peven may just be a troll, seeing how that Michael Bay remark _must_ be tongue-in-cheek, but WTH, I'll post this anyway.

You don't hear it as much anymore but a couple years ago, every single movie needed to be directed by David Fincher. And star Bruce Campbell. Anyway, Fight Club was a masterpiece, Seven was one of the best thrillers of the 90s, right behind Silence of the Lambs and The Game was decent. Overall, the guy has a respectable body of work. And yes, Alien 3 was a fucking mess. But it looked pretty good. And in coming right behind Jurrassic Park, it had the distinction of being one of the last movies to use stop motion animation. And you have to admire just a little bit, the balls of a newbie director taking steaming shit on a great director's work during the opening credits. Little girl? Dead. Love interest? Dead. Faithful robot? Just about dead. Main character? Infected and about to die. As a filmmaker, Fincher's got balls. But going back to the well with yet another murder mystery? Meh.

but as has already been mentioned, Fincher felt the same way, and left the project in disgust. There's a reason he was the only Alien film director not to get involved in the Alien Quadrilogy boxset that came out a while ago. And yet it's still a million times better than Resurrection or AvP, the real franchise killers. As for Se7en, brilliant. And Fight Club? Possibly my favourite non-geek-love film ever. I make that qualification because it wouldn't be fair to compare it to Fellowship of the Ring or Empire Strikes back, when I've been such a huge fan of both LOTR and Star Wars for so long.

i never said Bay made "satisfying" movies, i said he made "some decent fun flicks", and one look at his filmography is proof of that. as for IMBD ranking, i don't give a shit about what some website ranks a movie either, i reserve the right to make up my own mind about what i like or think is good. but hey, if you want to let others decide for you thats your choice. just like its your choice to call someone a troll because they have a different opinion than you. no wonder you're a fan of the arrogance and pretentiousness that runs through so much of Fincher's work, since you obviously share the same qualities. Seven is billed as a thriller, only there are no thrills. it has no suspense. it holds the hand of the viewer step by pedantic step until the anti-climactic ending that was easy to see coming a mile away. it gives the audience almost no credit for having a brain, and is one of the most condescending movies i have ever seen. as for Alien 3, did Fincher leave before the decision was made to kill off Hicks and the little girl, and doom Ripley to death before the first frame hit the screen? i doubt it. i love how his apologists try to blame anything wrong with the movie on anyone BUT Fincher, but give him credit for any little thing that was good, which is VERY little. Cameron made different style of movie than Scott's original while still maintaining a feeling of continuity and showing due respect to material that was not his creation, and ended up with an all-time great action movie. Fincher did little except try to rip off the template that Scott had created, only set it in the tunnels and hallways of a prison colony rather than on a spaceship, then gutted the material in an effort to "make it his own", as people say. oh yeah, he gave it that signature Fincher gritty grainy look. ooohhh aaahhh, now that makes up for everything else sucking. Fight Club is a great movie, imo, and i give him credit for realizing the material he was given to work succesfully. but thats just one movie, and he can't make Fight Club every time out, which is why i used the label, one trick pony.

any truth to that rumor?

your rapier wit has left me in a quivering heap of shame. oh, woe is me.

If if's an Eliot Ness film, they absolutely should cast it with Kevin Costner. That would be pretty damn cool. Hell, get DePalma to direct it and Morricone to score it. If they can do something extremely lameass like "Capone's Rising", they can do something very cool like this.

I bet you are one of those people who think Spielberg's Lincoln biopic should be about Lincoln's gayness. It's all true, because it's written in a book! Wow!

Pity they won't release a better dvd on this one than the rote disc that's already out there

Best thing Bendis ever did, IMO. Witty, interesting, and very, very cool. If you haven't picked it up yet, you're doing yourself a disservice.

If all you got out of Fight Club was that it was about a bunch of fags then...well, how can a rational human even relate to you? I won't bother. As for it ripping off earlier films, unless you're reviewing The Great Train Robbery, you're going to find similarities with earlier films. I hate to sound like one of those pretentious pricks...no I don't. You either get Fight Club or you don't. You can get it and not dig it, which is cool but I don't think you get it.

I'll take Alien 3 over Alien 2 anyday, the second movie was a piece of over-the-top crap, i prefer watching Ripley fighting almost hand to hand against the alien than with all the gadgets from the second, still i don't like either of those movies, i like seven, specially the way the story is told and the acting is superb, fight club rules and that's that, panic room is kinda lame but still better than the crap that gets everyday to the movie theaters.

just because they'd be a bit of a departure from his normal subjects. However, Fincher owns, and if he could make Panic Room watchable, then I'm down for anything.

And even if it's true it's barely news. Fincher attaches himself (and subsequently un-attaches himself) to more movies than just about any other contemporary Hollywood director.

The hack who made accidently the best film of the 90's! IF he really was the director of Fight Club!

Looks very like his shooting style; florescent light, greenish skintones, lens flare etc. What other ads and music vids has Finch done?

...then actually read first what I said. I only said that you seem to like "satisfying" movies, since you complained that Se7en was dissatisfying. Michael Bay is the perfect director for giving you "satisfying" movies. That's all I said. No misquoting anywhere. As for reserving the right to make up your own mind about what you like or think is good - that's perfectly fine, but then you shouldn't post on a website telling other people that they are wrong about what they like or think is good. And I never said that I like Se7en because it's highly rated on the IMDB. It's just that you claimed you couldn't understand why nearly everyone likes Fincher, since Se7en sucked so much, so I showed you that nearly everyone likes Se7en, so that's one reason why nearly everyone likes Fincher. You know, you could just read your message, then read mine, then you'll realize that I was just replying to what you said.

Just rent Sergio Martino's 'Torso' instead. Best giallo flick ever, and part of the blueprint for the American slasher craze of the late 70s/early 80s. Can you see masterpiece? I think you can, buddy.

Oooooh! Fincher and a period piece! And what a period piece! If you haven't read the graphic novel, by all means, do (unless you are squeamish). It's a disturbing slice of Depression Era history, brimming with institutional corruption and social injustice (not to mention body parts). This one goes high on my must-see list if it happens.

Roses are red.............. Violets are blue............... I'm a schizophrenic............ And so am I.............

and pointing out that Seven gets a decent rating on IMBD still doesn't answer my question of WHY. movies are an art form, subjective, and people like what they like, i get that. i simply asked why, because as many times as i have watched Seven thanks to my wife's love for it, i still don't get the mass appeal. and while Bay certainly doesn't make movies that can be compared to Taxi Driver or Midnight Cowboy, he isn't trying to make movies to compare to Taxi Driver or Midnight Cowboy, and imo, his movies are pretty succesful at being what they set out to be; fun, popcorn flicks with a lot of eye candy, and i just don't see why that should earn him such disdain on a site where people claim to be movie geeks and genre film fans. imo, Bay does a better job, overall, in hitting the mark that he sets out to hit than Fincher does. but then, i never said most of Bay's movies aren't pretty light and fluffy fare either.

TORSO, by Bendis, and lets not forget Marc Andreyenko (Sp?) is really the best thing Bendis ever wrote. Forget Spidey, Daredevil, Powers, or any of the other good works he has done, TORSO is just phenomenal. This should have been on Fincher's plate since FIGHT CLUB wrapped. KRUGER, DONT DROP THE BALL...

Evidently Durst is, or at least was, his "protege". He was gonna direct Lords of Dogtown with Fincher producing. Of course Durst could have Orson Welles directing skills for all I know. I'm just using the epic awfulness of his music as a barometer of talent. Hopefully this a trainwreck avoided.

I read some remarks about Fight Club being about homosexuality and being a rip off of clockwork orange etc...But I always thought it was about the Unabomber? I mean, it may sound weird but really, if you look into Ted Kadinksy's case, there are a lot of similarities behind him and Tyler Durden. It's like what that NYP article said at the time: "there is a unabomber in most of us", I thought Fight Club was about that. Kind of a rejection of this society and the consequences of the Industrial Revolution etc...Am I, like, totally wrong on this?

Come on, the man has more talent than that and made with Se7en THE definate serial killer movie - no doubt. Give the man some other projects!

Plus, ANOTHER Fincher serial killer flick just isn't exciting me. Would love to see him do RAMA, or some other sci-fi epic (Alien 3 was NOT his fault and he's a much better director now) have to agree that the Benjamin Button movie sounded more appealing...

Panic Room showed his illness, months and months of tweaking animated storyboards. Fretting that the subject matter wasn't "important" enuff. PR is an interesting movie, but it shouldnt have taken a year and a half and as much money as it took to pull off. It should have been a down and dirty Wait Until Dark style thriller, not a magic floating steadycam extravaganza. Unless u are Kubrick, steadicams do not increase tension!

Do characters mean anything to you people? The characters in Fight Club, Seven and even Alien 3 stood out, had personalities, you felt empathy for them. Michael Bay? Can you even recall a charcter in a Michael Bay film besides Scarlett Johanson's boobies? You could go into atmosphere and cinematography as well but that's getting a bit artsy. no, Fincher is the better director.

First of all, there was no stop motion used in Alien3. It was alot of puppet shot on bluescreen and then comped in and edited [sloppily] together with a series of shots with a man in a suit [it looked ridiculous]. Alien3 is the second favorite of mine out of the franchise next to ALIEN. Fincher's vision is a flawed masterpiece imo and I believe he was able to bring back the desolation and the despair so evident in Ridley Scott's film. That aside, I do believe it's interesting that Fincher is again directing a serial killer film, but I would hesitate to automatically compare it to Seven. I am of the idea that Zodiac will be very VERY different. Lastly, comparing Fincher to Michael Bay is like comparing a steak to chicken. Both have their functions but are completely different animals and their tastes are decidedly different. Michael Bay is clearly NOT interested in making the kind of statements that Fincher makes with his films. Fincher digs deep and is interested in far great issues then just a fun popcorn flick, however Panic Room is the closest he's ever gotten[a film I do not like]. Michael Bay is content on BIG BIG BIG, with a track record of poor character development and and underdevelopeded scripts. BUT, Michael Bay seems to be content with the peripheral, and that's okay. He does what he does and is successful at it. Kudos to him. Again, he isn't comparable to Fincher.

But he's an overrated hack anyway. (Yes, he's on my list right after Tarantino.)

But unfortunately it was HIS "great" idea to kill the other survivors of part two in the beginning. did anyone thinks that this was a good idea?

apples and oranges. its like trying to compare Star Wars with Casablanca. you have to judge them in regard to how succesful they are in achieving what they are trying to do in their respective genres/styles.

yeah i was wondering the same thing while I was watching it. "Why am I floating through the handle of a teapot?" Maybe he was freebasing Hitchcock and Kubrick before each shoot. PR is still one of my favorite films though. I don't know about all the serial killer stuff. I was disappointed to here ZODIAC was Fincher's next film. I would have thought he would go down a different path. Wait a minute! What the hell ever happened to RENDEVOUS WITH RAMA? Wasn't he supposed to do that with Morgan Freeman?? That would have been a great double feature with THE FOUNTAIN. Anybody know anything about this?

I read this script years ago while interning at Sony. I don't remember it being very good.

I must be odd but I really loved Alien 3. Especially the Directors cut version on the new DVD set. The movie has a completley different tone and feel than the version released in theatres. Fincher was one of the reasons why I got into movies so much and when his films come out, they are like events for me. The guy is an amazing director that can get the most out of his scripts and actors.

just geeks gettin moist..its disgusting

It sucked from the bat when they killed off Newt & Hicks..only went down hill from there. Finchers style is cool tho..

Guy2: Fincher. Guy1: Seriously? Guy2: Seriously. No bullshit. Guy 1: No bullshit? Really? Guy2: Really. Guy1: Bendis adapting his, uhhh, his own, uhhh, script or whatever? Guy2: Nah, some other fuckin' guy, fuckin' Kruger or whatever. Guy1.: ...th'hell? Guy2.: Yep. Guy1.: Fuck. Guy2: Fuckin' A. (exeunt.)

They'd probably make a good match. And I'm sure Fincher will fill in any cliches/gaps in a script he's handed... despite what some say, Panic Room is an excellent film, probably a better film than Fight Club, which is my least favorite Fincher. I have a hard time imagining the guy making a bad movie, whatever the source material or even script writer... he's just too damn good. It'd also be extremely interesting if they casted Coster, as I'm sure this film will be VERY different than DePalma's Untouchables and will probably offer a radically different take on the character (Fincher is more into the depth of his characters than DePalma)... so, seeing Costner take that same old character in such radically different territory would be very interesting indeed.

In a just world, Michael Bay would be in charge of cleaning out Fincher's commode

FINCHER RULES !!!!!!!!!!!!!! American "Film" blows for most part. Fincher came alomg and showed us something good. ALIEN 3 is a true show of Good vs. Evil. That's SATISFYING. You defend Michael Bay? WHO IS THE RUIN OF AMERICAN CINEMA. Go to film school. "Pevin" so you can learn something.

Garden Gnome, I have a prediction, you're talking right now about how terrible American cinema is. But a year ago you were telling anyone who would listen about how great Tarantino and Rodriguez were the second coming. Six months ago you were talking about how Scorsese, Malick, and Polanski and that generation (sans Lucas and Spielberg, natch) were the only directors you respected. Now you're saying that no American films are worth watching, that it's all about the French New Wave and foreign films. In six months you'll be saying that screw foreign or American films, nothing made after 1955 is worth watching.

Peven, the gritty effect you're talking about is for the atmosphere. I can't tell you why Se7en is a good film, only why I like it (I find the characters compelling and the story draws me in). The effect of the bleached out gritty effect in Se7en and Fight Club is to achieve the kind of stark realism that he's trying to show. I think his message is the world's a rough place, and that's what he shows. If the movies were photographed in the same style as Brokeback Mountain, the effect wouldn't work.

but i did get a kick out the "pulsating anus" bit, that was at least original. i may even use that myself sometime. though, if you say it out loud too many times it seems to bring on a bowel movement. anyway, take care and stay in touch there gnome, and good luck with the anger management therapy.

That, my friends, is a friggin comic.

That, my friends, is a friggin comic.

and i have no problem with creating appropriate atmosphere either. it does work well in Fight Club. i think that too many times though directors get caught up in style over substance, whether its nifty cgi effects or filters or post production acid washing, and the meat of the movie gets less attention than what it deserves. instead of being treated as background, atmoshphere ends up taking center stage and things like good dialogue, pacing, acting, get shortshrifted because the people making the movie are so caught up in the look and style of the movie. but then, one could say that our culture in general is becoming more interested in style over substance so it isn't like i am saying Fincher, his audience, or the movie industry is alone in that. i read recently that 500 feature films a yr are released, so there is something for everyone at least. like i said, i love Fight Club, it isn't like i have a vendetta against Fincher or anything. and i wouldn't argue that Bay makes commercial fluff either. but then there have been directors making commercial fluff (anyone ever hear of Elvis movies? just a quick example off the top of my head)as long as there has been a movie industry so i don't see him as the sign of the beast foretelling the doom of hollywood or quality films.

You are not alone Grand Moff Tarkin, I really liked the Game as well. In fact i just watched it for the first time since 2004 recently. Still is a great freaking movie. Also I agree that Costner should do this as well.

Things are always 'about' other things and even if the book was about what you say it doesn't mean the film is.....................Now, your explanation of the film sounds good to me. I really like it. So, you have applied the film to a real-world condition and that makes the film applicible. Did the director want that to be what his film said? Did the screenwriter? If then intentionally wrote alegorically, then the film can be about something else, but maybe it is just a story that you can apply however you want. I like what you said and you are as smart and anybody else here who is going to enlighten us as to what the film is really about. Until the director explains what the film is about, stick with your own thing.

I watched the making of Alien3 on the DVD and I thought that they were already killed off when the movie was still at the "weird wooden space station" stage. There were several scripts and several directors attached to this film, and Fincher walked off the movie in protest before post-production began, so you can't blame all it's flaws on him.

I forgot he made that one.

enough said.

Name me one really great film he's made.

Ah, there we go again, the little whiners " ... yeah, but he killed off hicks and the cute little girl" That was the whole point geniusses. In stead of just repeating the same old shit Fincher for a change wanted to do something interesting with the franchise and give it a new direction. I think it was the best move in the whole movie. Also, Alien 3 by far has the best acting ensemble cast of all the alien movies. Sure, the movie is flawed in many other ways, but as any decent informed movielover knows in spite of Fincher's best efforts not because of them. I rank Alien 3 right after the first Alien movie, since Aliens was, though very well made, a pretty simple action shoot 'em up movie,as Cameron knew he couldn't repeat the enormous suspense and visual magic of the first movie, so he put in some gung ho marines to replace real athmosphere with action and it worked, though in no way was even close to the first one. Alien 3 attempted to do something completely different with the story and had brilliant acting in it, by far Sygourney Weaver's best acting of all 4 Alien movies easily. Well, just my 2 cents. Ah, damn by the look of this sites cartoon of the week, Harry's off his meds again.

Its been done sooo much.

Fincher is attached to every fucking project ever conceived. And you know how many of them get made? NONE.

Fight Club thats it.I'll never understand the god like status fanboys have bestowed upon him.He doesn't deserve it.Fight Club best film of the 90's?Please.If all you watch is Star Wars prequels and other such tripe then maybe.As for Seven it was mediocre at best.I'd take Manhunter over it any day.

It looked like a bunch of people running from an alien in an enclosed space to me. Something different would have been exploring the aliens' origins or its homeworld or having them infect earth. There was nothing new or different about Alien 3.

I suppose there are similarities between Fight Club and Clock Work Orange, but how the fuck can anyone claim that Fight Club is a rip off? Any movie is going to have certain similarities to others due to the fact that movies have been getting made for a long fucking time. There are lots of fucking movies out there, there will always be something to compare a film to. Both movies deal with a hatred for society and and a philosophy regarding anarchy. That is true. Other than that, they are completely different movies in tone and story. You might as well lump "V for Vendetta" and "1984" as rip offs as well for the same similarites. Fight Club is an original masterpiece.

Considering we have yet another irate talk back, I thought I'd put in my two cents as well. To the blubbering fools that reduce Fincher's skill to atmospheric washes of off-kilter color, I say 'nay', NAY! Every single one of his films has arguably the most subtle of character moments that attach the audience with unparallel efficiency to the people on screen. (majority of the audience, I suppose, considering you Fascists that dislike him). Every time I watch Se7en I absolutely marvel at the dinner scene between Paltrow, Pitt, and Freeman. In the span of a few minutes, without pomp or extraordinary circumstances, a simple after-meal conversation about every-day-things establishes an honest, realistic bond of bright friendship in Fincher's dark world. He deals with characters displaced in the seemingly mundane circumstances of everyday life. The populated NYC is a Hellish landscape of corruption (Seven), comfortable-IKEA-living in LA becomes an alien dystopia (FightClub), one's new 'safe' home is the center of danger (Panic Room). Even Alien 3 displays the most intimate and revealing of human interactions: sex. Riply has physical relations with a man for the first time. And when it comes time to emphasize these moments, Fincher does not use flashy graphics and cool MTV editing. Go back to these films and you will see a steady, even handed portrayal that exposes the characters at their most basic level. To all those that argue he is a poor director that indulges in overused ornamentation, to steal American Beauty's tagline: Look Closer.

...if it was written by Kruger it's going to suck more dick than Elton John on his wedding night.

I've known Bendis since his 'Super City' days and no one cares about Ness' story, especially after Costner played such a pathetic version of him in 'Untouchables.' BTW Bendis, where's my Lovecraft book you borrowed?

"Never talk about Fight Club, brother"

He is writing john carter of mars according to IMDB...ouch...sorry harry

Fincher should cast Costner as Eliot Ness. it was one of his best roles, and the age difference now is about right. I know there are some COstner bashers who would hate this idea, but THEY ARE WRONG. If Fincher casts COstner, I'llb epsyched.

i tried to get some information on this from IMDB but it said i had to upgrade to PRO or something. Ferk that noise.

I refuse to even acknowledge that film as part of the series. It's in the mistakes catagory with AVP and Batman & Robin. Sure it was a competant enough film. It was just a little too hardcore for me.

But I'm real curious about it

""Oh...Fincher! by DerLanghaarige January 12th, 2006 09:44:33 AM CST The hack who made accidently the best film of the 90's! IF he really was the director of Fight Club!""..... ... ... What did you do today honey? "Oh I fell down a flight of stairs and accidentally made the best film of it's decade."... Oh ok sweetie. Sounds gay, but oh well. Dinner's ready.

ok, but in my opinion, not a significant improvement over the first cut and clearly not the work of Fincher, who had nothing to do with it. Some of the added stuff is interesting to look at, but a lot of it doesn't really fit with the movie and kind of hurts the flow... they would've done better to add a lot of the material to a special features section of the DVD rather than insert it directly. Chances are, if you hated the first cut of Alien 3, you'll hate this cut too... the additions are mostly curio. Interesting to look at, but I still prefer the first cut. The making of doc, however, is awesome... it gives great insight into how the production of a movie can go to hell... I'm surprised D. Fincher didn't kill himself after all that, and it's a kick to hear what Vincent Ward would have done with the film had he been in charge... it actually would've been pretty interesting and I'm kind of sorry he didn't make it. There's also a story about Fincher making the mannequin of Michael Beihn's (sp?) body and Beihn getting upset that's pretty funny. Good stuff... but I wish Fincher had at least done an interview so that they could've gotten his side of the story.

????????????

because so many people can't seem to be mature enough to discuss the subject at hand without being complete assholes and devolving the debate into some sort of persoanl cut-down fest, as in calling someone a facist because they don't like you're favorite director. wtf? i mean, its no skin off my teeth being called names on here, i pretty much outgrew letting name calling "hurt" me about 30 fucking yrs ago, but it does pretty much kill the attempt at an exchange of ideas and opinions about film on anything but a 3rd grade level. are people's ego's so fucking fragile that if they see that someone has a different opinion than they do that the only way they can respond is with personal attacks? the height of lameness. "oh no, he said my favorite director isn't great, that must mean he's saying I'M not great, that drooling fool facist with a pulsating anus!!". that pretty much sums up what goes on in tb's like this, and it makes a person wonder how these people deal with real life when it doesn't kiss their ass on a regular basis. probably something like this, "oh no, that other guy got employee of the month, that must mean my boss hates me, and that employee of the month guy is just out to make MY life miserable. what a drooling facist pulsating anus!". fucking pathetic.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/seven-recut.html

http://howitshouldhaveended.com/movie%20list.html

And shut the fuck up about it here. For fucks sake tard boy. We get it. Move along, move along.

tard boy? ass monkey? thats the best you can come up with? and you call ME tard boy? i mean, that doesn't even come close to "pulsating anus", which at least showed some imagination and forethought. weak dude, weak.

Fincher did direct that ad with the beer and the brad pitt.its cool.

and i love shit like that... beer commercials directed by bigtime directors and whatnot.

Yea off a brilliantly set up scenario by Cameron, quickly destroy it in the most lamest way possible and move on to dismantling the franchise, genius buddy Alien 3 by VoxMillennium January 12th, 2006 05:36:19 PM CST Ah, there we go again, the little whiners " ... yeah, but he killed off hicks and the cute little girl" That was the whole point geniusses. In stead of just repeating the same old shit Fincher for a change wanted to do something interesting with the franchise and give it a new direction. I think it was the best move in the whole movie. Also, Alien 3 by far has the best acting ensemble cast of all the alien movies. Sure, the movie is flawed in many other ways, but as any decent informed movielover knows in spite of Fincher's best efforts not because of them. I rank Alien 3 right after the first Alien movie, since Aliens was, though very well made, a pretty simple action shoot 'em up movie,as Cameron knew he couldn't repeat the enormous suspense and visual magic of the first movie, so he put in some gung ho marines to replace real athmosphere with action and it worked, though in no way was even close to the first one. Alien 3 attempted to do something completely different with the story and had brilliant acting in it, by far Sygourney Weaver's best acting of all 4 Alien movies easily. Well, just my 2 cents. Ah, damn by the look of this sites cartoon of the week, Harry's off his meds again.

Yeah, 10 years ago, I was thinking Tarantino was the new thing. I Saw folks walking out of his film, while men had their ears severed to a 70's rock/folk song. That's gotta be better than Me walking out after seeing BOTH BATMAN AND ROBIN LAYING ON THIER BACKS AND CLICKIN" THEIR HEELS TOGETHER AND ICE SKATING. So lets say I thought Tarantino was gonna' be around for a while. yes good call. Save for Sin City and El Mariachi, Rodrigez is all style, no SUBSTANCE. I do admire his core belief: the aspect of "Guerilla Film" that has a power to it. A pure lust to both entertain and inspire. He lost that whole feel in the middle body of his work. Now he's jus into the popcorn genre. Nope, never really went up to bat for him as of late. (we'll have do deduct points for that one) I'll give ya credit for Malick, Martin Scorsese. They ARE American Film. I knew that ages ago. I never had to say it to anbody. Everybody with half a brain in their skiull already knew it. (So we'll give you some points for that one anyway) We could go on and on about all the others: David Lynch, Brian De Plama, David Mamet, Joel Coen, Wes Anderson (Rushmore, etc. not the one to blame for Soldier) Etc. Etc. Etc. The main thing is: these folks are against form, what what "Hollywood' chooses to make as normal filmgoing . We get The Dukes of Hazzard shoved down our throats. While the true displays of inspired film are show in tiny hovels, in some dank little one screen upstart. Fincher has a unique chance to find the middle ground. he's united form and substance. he's brought together concept and structure. He's utilized what most American Directors lack: A COMPLETE SENSE OF WHAT HE"S DOING. So if he can bring a story like "TORSO" to fruition, and add some depth to a palyed out tale, then so be it. What seems true is that a disconnect is very previlant. What gets made by the Michael Bay Machines of Hollywood, is not what everyone is feeling. What's dangerous is that if we just keep on getting "Entertained", we'll forget how to see anything else matters. So here come's 'ol Mr. Fincher, giving us the notion that more lurks in the shadows than we'd care to know. Oh jeez' we was all comfy being entertained. Hell, I just should of told you this to begin with: We all got opinions, and that's why doom awaits us.

Fincher kicks ass, TORSO is a great book, and therefore, this movie is the biggest geek thing to come down in a long time. Although Fincher HARDBOILED would rock, too (which he was rumored as making as well). Fincher is the God of directing now because of these GREAT FILMS: Aliens 3 (stop bitching about hicks, it's a good flick), Fight Club, The Game (so underrated it hurts), and Panic Room (not as ambitious a story as the others, but still a damn fun flick). That's the LAST WORD

I think I've mentioned enough...

I was just quietly minding my own business when I noticed that ignorant post by luis1210. Alien 3 over Aliens? What the hell were you smoking while watching the convoluted mess that was Alien3. Even Fincher is able to admit its numerous mistakes, including the lack of a completed script when filming began. James Cameron kicks ass as an action/scifi director and Aliens is a great example of that. P.S. President Evil is a very, suppressed gay old man.