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THIS DIVIDED STATE, a new politically charged doco, gets a rave!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with a review of a flick that's out in Utah (read below to find out why) and is going theater to theater currently. I've heard lots of great stuff about this documentary, a film that follows the big splash of Utah Valley State College inviting Michael Moore as a speaker back in September. This had a big impact on the conservative community and entertainment ensues as the right plays tug-o-war with the left. This doc is supposed to underline this whole Red State Vs. Blue State syndrome that is raging all over the news these days. Anyway, here's the review! Enjoy!

Hello boys,

I'm a loooong time reader and occasional reviewer. Not often do I get a chance to review advanced or limited release stuff from the black hole of Utah, but for once I do. (Well, you know every once in a while... I wrote an AICN review a loooong time ago for that piece of crap Star Trek Insurection under the psuedonym "SpaceWhore") but there is a kickass documentary film playing in limited release in Salt Lake before it opens up in New York, Seattle and San Francisco a couple of others in August and according the website more in September before it comes out on DVD. I actually found out about the doc here on Elston's kickass weekly recap.

I really like the work the guys at the Disinformation company do and I thought "Outfoxed" was great so I got really excited to see "This Divided State" when I found out they were putting the DVD out in September sometime (I don't remember the date and it doesn't seem to be on the website)...

But This Divided State happened in Utah, so I guess that's why they opened it here instead of elsewhere. It's running at the Tower theatre in the moment (a really kickass art house in SLC, they just did Man with the Screaming brain a couple of weeks ago, it was rad) It seems like I'm rambling, so I'll go right into the review:

Back in September of last year Utah Valley State college decided it would be rad if they decided to invite Michael Moore to speak on campus. What the documentary reveals (and what us Utah natives know) is that Utah Valley State college is in the most backwards-ass conservative community in the country and people went crazy at the idea of such a liberal lightning rod coming into town. The media closed in and so did Stephen Greenstreet, the director of the doc. He did a Q & A last night that I caught at the 7:00 showing.

The guy that comes right into the spotlight as the outspoken conservative spokesperson is a dude named Kay Anderson. He's a real-estate millionaire who lives across the street from the college and he is nuts. He tried suing the school to prevent Michael Moore from speaking, he tried bribing, he even got up on a table outside the school and was like street preaching against it. He also predicts that Michael Moore will bring on the apocolypse repeatedly (it's amazing, you can see it on the trailer. I almost didn't beleive it when I heard it). There's also a Michael Moore look-alike/media whore, a kid who has no idea what he's talking about who collects a petition against the decision, the students who invited Moore on student council and a number of other outspoken individuals and college proffessors.

The film is interesting and almost always entertaining. It's also very short (90 minutes) and paced tightly. It's all cut chronologically too, and although the director said he admires michael moore, he made a conscious effort to keep himself out of it. He's not in the doc and he doesn't narrate it. Everyone is able to speak for themselves and although you learn from one of the professors that appears in the film that there is no such thing as an objective viewpoint, this doc comes close. The editing really impressed me and his depth of footage impressed me as well. He said afterwards that he had 9 or 10 cameras going at a time, but he paid for everything by himself. (he said that because of it, he and the assistant directors are all practically on welfare, even still).

The movie gets really emotional too. There's some times that you get choked up, others where you get pissed and others that just make you antsy. In between Sean Hannity and Michael Moores speeches (oh yeah, to "balance" the debate, the college brought in Sean Hannity) there's this godspeed song that just builds and builds and builds and it makes you really nervous, he almost makes you feel like Michael Moore IS the apocolypse. And then there's a really great version of woody guthries "This Land is Your Land" that they had a kickass local beer-band do (The Utah County Swillers) that covers a montage of the end, post lawsuit, post election day epilogues and it gave me the chills.

I think this film is important for people everywhere to see for a number of reasons and I'm glad it's going to play wider. The first reason is this: this is an accurate portayal of Utah. Utah seems so often like a different country. I go to California a lot for my work and when I come back to Utah the conservative tension in the air is palpable. Second: I think this is a good example of the larger conflict in the country, the red vs. blue divide (not halo red vs. blue). Third: I think it's great to support documentaries in the cinemas. How great would it be if one screen at everyone of these multiplexes was dedicated to docs and revivals? You'd probably go to the movies a lot more. So I think people should see it just to support the genre. Fourth: It's really, really, really good. I think it's WAY better than outfoxed. There's actually events unfolding in this doc, not talking heads. Fifth: Michael Moore isn't really in it all that much. I thought going into this, the doc would be following Michael Moore around, following the controversey. It's not that at all.

SPOILER

Mike only appears toward the end. He comes in, gives his speech and leaves immediately. They don't manage to prevent him from coming, but the fight is amazing to watch

SPOILERS OVER

Don't take my word for it though, check out the trailer they have up on their website and you will see.

If you use this rambling piece of shit then call me Darth Swank


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On fundamentalists....
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I'd bet good money Darth Swank is a Transplant to Utah...
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What's the Matter with Kansas? by Thomas Frank Redux
by Pageiv
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Aug 1st, 2005
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by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
07:13:57 AM
because doctors, lawyers, engineers, writers, pscyhiatrists,arti
by Cameron1
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Settle down, Cameron1, you dumbass!
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by Pumpkinsboy
Aug 1st, 2005
07:46:49 AM
fucking hell kitty, you really are fucking stupid.
by Cameron1
Aug 1st, 2005
07:48:16 AM
Damn my typing, we need an `edit` option
by Pumpkinsboy
Aug 1st, 2005
07:49:54 AM
Nice work, Cameron1! That last post made some sense!
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Aug 1st, 2005
07:57:44 AM
Hell kitty I didn't think you would get any dumber.
by Cameron1
Aug 1st, 2005
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Aug 1st, 2005
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by Cameron1
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Christ, here come the Nazi analogies
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by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
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Solution to Liberal Bias on Campus?
by Pumpkinsboy
Aug 1st, 2005
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better pie throwing and shoutdowns than the violence visited aga
by Cameron1
Aug 1st, 2005
08:19:25 AM
Yeh a lot of the dumber cons seem to forget about Coulter's
by Cameron1
Aug 1st, 2005
08:21:00 AM
But getting back to this particular movie . . .
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
08:22:24 AM
Just Saw The Trailer And Am Surprised, Looks Good
by Diana Rules!
Aug 1st, 2005
08:22:25 AM
A few words on "real conservatives"
by lindyboy
Aug 1st, 2005
08:23:45 AM
I don't think they actually had a debate, Diana
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
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by Cameron1
Aug 1st, 2005
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Oh, Rats
by Diana Rules!
Aug 1st, 2005
08:30:50 AM
The problem with Moore is, he uses the same tactics as your aver
by Cameron1
Aug 1st, 2005
08:35:51 AM
Put Another Way, I Hardly Ever Trust The Republicans To Do The R
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
08:36:48 AM
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by gg
Aug 1st, 2005
08:40:05 AM
A few words...
by lindyboy
Aug 1st, 2005
08:48:53 AM
I'd Of Voted For Dean, But No Way For Kerry
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
08:50:55 AM
On homosexuals
by gg
Aug 1st, 2005
08:53:50 AM
Honestly, lindyboy
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
08:55:00 AM
Staying Mostly On Topic.....
by Roboteer
Aug 1st, 2005
08:58:34 AM

by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
09:00:35 AM
It was not a pro-Kerry argument
by gg
Aug 1st, 2005
09:07:37 AM
".....the radical anti-American extremism Dems seem to champion.
by Cameron1
Aug 1st, 2005
09:08:50 AM
vikingkitty and roboteer
by lindyboy
Aug 1st, 2005
09:14:29 AM
And I Still Say Not Buying It
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
09:22:35 AM
Always good to see the real "conservatives"
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
09:30:23 AM
What?
by hostiledm
Aug 1st, 2005
09:31:26 AM
No, You're A 12 Year Old
by Diana Rules!
Aug 1st, 2005
09:39:24 AM
apocolypse?
by Harker-Writes
Aug 1st, 2005
09:55:30 AM
2nd Ammendment Is For Militias?
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
09:56:06 AM
Pinheads to power
by TonyWilson
Aug 1st, 2005
10:03:10 AM
mICHAEL mOORE IsN'T fROM fLINT
by Hate_Speech
Aug 1st, 2005
10:05:33 AM
Why?
by RJ MacReady
Aug 1st, 2005
10:05:59 AM
Why no comment Ill?
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
10:08:06 AM
Chill out, tombseye.
by lindyboy
Aug 1st, 2005
10:30:29 AM

by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
10:31:25 AM
brob, mate your papers are not liberal. Pretty much all US media
by TonyWilson
Aug 1st, 2005
11:00:50 AM
Interesting points
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
11:02:03 AM
While tombeye's Catching Up On Jefferson, Tony Wilson . . .
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
11:04:04 AM
Tombseye, let me sum up your argument
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
11:09:03 AM
Too true Clinton, too true.
by TonyWilson
Aug 1st, 2005
11:10:16 AM
Ill and Viking, as I read Jefferson quickly
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
11:14:12 AM
Tombseye's argument is actually nearer to "greedy people are
by TonyWilson
Aug 1st, 2005
11:14:15 AM
pardon the typos and Tony's got it right
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Aug 1st, 2005
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by TonyWilson
Aug 1st, 2005
11:18:51 AM
I'm not against all Christians
by cookylamoo
Aug 1st, 2005
11:19:42 AM
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by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
11:20:53 AM
I'll tell you what you have, tombseye
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
11:21:12 AM
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by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
11:23:26 AM
OK tombseye, you've said uninformed so often I think you
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
11:26:52 AM
kitty I think you'll find most liberals are civil, but not w
by TonyWilson
Aug 1st, 2005
11:30:53 AM
You've forgotten one of the main points of liberal idealogy,
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
11:31:49 AM
Well I'd say you're just flat out wrong, Tony
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
11:33:04 AM
The Rest of the World is Correct Tony
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
11:34:10 AM
You gotta tell that to my Int'l Political Economy Prof
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
11:35:07 AM
As Much As I Hate To Admit It -- By Preaching to the Converted,
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 1st, 2005
11:35:58 AM
hey kitty you must have had some bad experiences, when I worked
by TonyWilson
Aug 1st, 2005
11:37:10 AM
Ah the bit about Kerry's integrity was a sly dig at the swif
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Aug 1st, 2005
11:39:51 AM
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by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
11:41:00 AM
Why Taxing The Poor, Working Class, and Middle Class Makes No Se
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 1st, 2005
11:42:08 AM
Tony, Liberals In This Country Are Anything BUT Civil, For The M
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
11:42:25 AM
Zombie, I'd like you to point where taxes have been raised o
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
11:45:18 AM
Okay Ill I'll go over the points-starting with Iraq
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
11:47:11 AM
Oh I've seen both those sites.
by TonyWilson
Aug 1st, 2005
11:47:46 AM
I'll tell you what, Tombseye
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
11:48:26 AM
Conservatives Are Far More Hositle and Shrill Than Liberals
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 1st, 2005
11:50:36 AM
Tony . . .
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
11:51:33 AM
2nd amendment
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
11:51:39 AM
While tombseye's Ignoring The Uncomfortable NRA URL, Zombie
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
11:52:44 AM
This is what I love...
by lindyboy
Aug 1st, 2005
11:53:04 AM
Geez TW and here you keep saying your a moderate.
by JUSTICE41
Aug 1st, 2005
11:54:10 AM
Viking Kitty
by huck500
Aug 1st, 2005
11:54:31 AM
AirAmerica was satirical, from what i heard of it.
by TonyWilson
Aug 1st, 2005
11:55:51 AM
More repetition from a brainwashed liberal
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
11:57:07 AM
Vik, the UC system is amongst the cheapest in the country
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
11:57:07 AM
Yes, Bush Was Way Worse Than Nixon
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 1st, 2005
12:00:34 PM
Private accounts and social security reform is a joke
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
12:02:01 PM
I thought so
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
12:04:13 PM
Privatization Was All The Rage In the 1920s Too
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 1st, 2005
12:05:39 PM
I look at the social security being stolen from my check every m
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
12:05:47 PM
Hopefully You Won't Mistakenly Invest In Junk Bonds, Non-Exi
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 1st, 2005
12:11:33 PM
Silly...Silly
by JDPRITCHETT
Aug 1st, 2005
12:13:02 PM
Justice you are the one who calls me a coward and a pussy. So I&
by TonyWilson
Aug 1st, 2005
12:13:38 PM
Zombie, you're getting hysterical. Where's that link to
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
12:14:28 PM
lindy-on foreign policy
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
12:16:38 PM
tombseye, What Part Of Your Iraq Post Was The Informative One?
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
12:21:17 PM
JD-actually both parties are corporate run
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
12:24:33 PM
"Talking Points"
by lindyboy
Aug 1st, 2005
12:25:58 PM
Viking-Kitty -- How Does The Demonstrated Failure of Laissez-Fai
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 1st, 2005
12:30:49 PM
Ill, actually the point was that Iraq was not chosen out of a ha
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
12:35:31 PM
I take issue as well, lindyboy
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
12:35:52 PM
Revisionist history abounds!
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
12:39:07 PM
The Only Problem, Ill Clinton, Being That Security Hasn't Be
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 1st, 2005
12:43:36 PM
Funny, because not all liberals stand on the street, throwing mo
by cookylamoo
Aug 1st, 2005
12:43:42 PM
Vik is Greenspan a liberal
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
12:44:16 PM
Tombseye, oh Tombseye
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
12:44:21 PM
Al Gore Never Said He Invented The Internet. People Who Repeat T
by www.valiens.com
Aug 1st, 2005
12:44:33 PM
The whole "Affirmative Action Bakesale" bit is, to my mind, very
by FluffyUnbound
Aug 1st, 2005
12:44:40 PM
No Tony just laser like observations.
by JUSTICE41
Aug 1st, 2005
12:45:47 PM
Attention tombseye
by lindyboy
Aug 1st, 2005
12:46:26 PM
as per revisionism why did real wages not rise in the 1980s
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
12:47:52 PM
You're forgetting something about Greenspan's testimony
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
12:48:22 PM
How we vote.
by AaronTheMighty
Aug 1st, 2005
12:50:57 PM
tomb, I know you're typing fast so porobably aren't read
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
12:52:50 PM
Lindy you keep missing the point
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
12:54:15 PM
What about the Brazillian guy?
by TonyWilson
Aug 1st, 2005
01:00:15 PM
Ill, i'm saying that it matters how we go to war
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
01:00:20 PM
People don't all function like robots Vik
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
01:04:29 PM
Oh Thats Right -- For NeoCons POVERTY is a Personality Disorder
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 1st, 2005
01:05:07 PM
And there it is ladies and germs, Tom just stated it.
by JUSTICE41
Aug 1st, 2005
01:06:26 PM
Historically, Anti-Semetism is A Conservative Trait
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 1st, 2005
01:11:26 PM
points taken
by lindyboy
Aug 1st, 2005
01:12:12 PM
Zombie, I Noticed You Found Absolutely Wrong With That Statement
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
01:14:27 PM
Grow up Justice and try to debate like a human being
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
01:17:24 PM
I Love How The NeoCons Always Fall Back on Throwing Insults Out
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 1st, 2005
01:17:31 PM
Ill Clinton and Iraq
by madoo14
Aug 1st, 2005
01:19:50 PM
A Statement of Purpose (aka "Talking Points") Does Not Indicate
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 1st, 2005
01:23:04 PM
Justice you dumbfuck.
by Cameron1
Aug 1st, 2005
01:25:25 PM
Uh, Zombie
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
01:25:50 PM
Okay, Lindy here's the thing
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
01:31:12 PM
Madoo
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
01:31:20 PM
tomb, Ideally governments shouldn't lie about anything
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
01:35:12 PM
WWII.
by Cameron1
Aug 1st, 2005
01:36:04 PM
Uh, Clinton, I Did, You Just Don't Want to See It
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 1st, 2005
01:36:45 PM
Ill, I'm not saying you per se
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
01:39:51 PM
Ill Clinton Re: FDR
by madoo14
Aug 1st, 2005
01:41:18 PM
Thanks Zombie, We're In Agreement Then, That Quote Was Taken
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
01:42:51 PM
Port Security
by madoo14
Aug 1st, 2005
01:47:27 PM
Ill Clinton -- Your Point Being... What Exactly?
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 1st, 2005
01:48:29 PM
Thank you Thank you (bows humbly)
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
01:51:14 PM
Zombie, I told you I was wrong.
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
01:52:35 PM
Conservatives tried to stop Michael Moore from speaking at San M
by Right Bastard
Aug 1st, 2005
01:54:48 PM
A Christian Liberal right here!!!
by TedSallis
Aug 1st, 2005
01:56:10 PM
What have they "done for us"?
by lindyboy
Aug 1st, 2005
02:01:57 PM
Lindyboy, remember that comparison invovling Buckley?
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
02:07:05 PM
Okay, Okay, I Gotcha -- BUT The Problem Remains, Ill Clinton, Th
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 1st, 2005
02:09:06 PM
Lindy what have they done?
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
02:14:55 PM
What Ever Happened To VikingKitty
by madoo14
Aug 1st, 2005
02:16:56 PM
With due respect Kitty...
by lindyboy
Aug 1st, 2005
02:17:01 PM
tomb, I Am Impressed With The Speed At Which You Type
by Ill Clinton
Aug 1st, 2005
02:24:25 PM
Isreal and the US have pretty much the same policy.
by cookylamoo
Aug 1st, 2005
02:25:32 PM
anti semitism?
by I wonder
Aug 1st, 2005
02:25:51 PM
The founders would be appalled at the level of "regulation" occu
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
02:28:48 PM
One quick question: why does an article about a documentary need
by FluffyUnbound
Aug 1st, 2005
02:34:43 PM
Enough of this "The Left Hates Religion" bullshit!!!!
by TedSallis
Aug 1st, 2005
02:36:25 PM
I think it needs a spoiler warning because some people are so ta
by vikingkitty
Aug 1st, 2005
02:39:01 PM
so.. was the movie any good?
by white owl
Aug 1st, 2005
02:40:06 PM
As to the causes...
by lindyboy
Aug 1st, 2005
02:44:50 PM
The Left Doesn't Hate The Relgious, It's Frightened by T
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 1st, 2005
02:45:35 PM
As a Utahn...
by Stallion_Cornell
Aug 1st, 2005
02:47:29 PM
lindy, u sure I'm wrong then?
by tombseye
Aug 1st, 2005
02:57:40 PM
Insulting people by calling them faggots.
by Garbageman33
Aug 1st, 2005
03:06:00 PM
This country is no longer in a viable condition
by ejcarter9
Aug 1st, 2005
03:55:28 PM
RE: Kitty
by madoo14
Aug 1st, 2005
04:10:34 PM
madoo14
by JDPRITCHETT
Aug 1st, 2005
04:18:10 PM
Conservatives believe in charity for the compliant.
by cookylamoo
Aug 1st, 2005
04:26:50 PM
VOTE OR DONATE FOR PAUL HACKETT
by bushsux
Aug 1st, 2005
04:33:46 PM
CONSERVATIVES HAVE MORE POSITIONS AT ODDS WITH CHRISTIANITY THAN
by bushsux
Aug 1st, 2005
04:39:40 PM
I like movies.
by Grammaton Cleric
Aug 1st, 2005
04:45:20 PM
this talkback is pure gold
by lopan
Aug 1st, 2005
05:38:29 PM
Chicken Hawks
by JA_Prufrock
Aug 1st, 2005
06:39:37 PM
Regarding the review
by Brock Samson
Aug 1st, 2005
06:46:57 PM
OilCanBoyd and Real Conservatives
by Aetius450
Aug 1st, 2005
06:47:30 PM
Gospel according to Clint Eastwood
by turk128
Aug 1st, 2005
06:49:07 PM
Pumpinksboy and What's the Matter with Kansas
by Aetius450
Aug 1st, 2005
06:53:37 PM
Stanley Spector, "No real conservative could in good conscience
by Immortal_Fish
Aug 1st, 2005
08:25:15 PM
OilCanBoyd, "Why do Liberals (non-pejorative) always seem to hat
by Immortal_Fish
Aug 1st, 2005
08:28:54 PM
Cameron1, "doctors, lawyers, engineers, writers, pscyhiatrists,a
by Immortal_Fish
Aug 1st, 2005
08:34:14 PM
brobdingnag, "I am an atheist who supports gay marriage, legaliz
by Immortal_Fish
Aug 1st, 2005
08:41:46 PM
gg, a response
by Immortal_Fish
Aug 1st, 2005
08:55:17 PM
Tired of self-righteous cry-baby liberals. NEWSFLASH: you godles
by Buck Turgidson
Aug 1st, 2005
09:51:42 PM
Democrats make me laugh. What the fuck are you fighting for anyw
by Buck Turgidson
Aug 1st, 2005
09:57:02 PM
Why do Republicans care so much about Iraqi democracy so much, b
by Rant Breath
Aug 1st, 2005
10:23:13 PM
What if that horrible, horrible man, Michael Moore was president
by Rant Breath
Aug 1st, 2005
10:40:02 PM
Boy, some people really get uptight when you remind them that th
by cookylamoo
Aug 1st, 2005
11:19:34 PM
Kickass!
by Doc_McCoy
Aug 1st, 2005
11:33:41 PM
........aahhh! Nothing like a good old political Doco....
by Kai_Mah'gra
Aug 1st, 2005
11:40:43 PM
Tools
by tbransonlives
Aug 1st, 2005
11:56:22 PM
IMMORAL FISH IS A COCKSUCKING IDIOT
by bushsux
Aug 2nd, 2005
12:12:50 AM
"you godless fucks have been tidily swept out of the White House
by bushsux
Aug 2nd, 2005
12:14:48 AM
Everyone who particiaptes in a democracy is a tool.
by Rant Breath
Aug 2nd, 2005
12:16:28 AM
Why don't the conservatives on this site actually do somethi
by bushsux
Aug 2nd, 2005
12:21:02 AM
DICK CHENEY HAD 5 DEFERMENTS FROM THE DRAFT FOR VIETNAM
by bushsux
Aug 2nd, 2005
12:21:43 AM
JOHN ASHCROFT HAD 8 DEFERMENTS FROM THE VIETNAM DRAFT
by bushsux
Aug 2nd, 2005
12:24:23 AM
I Leave And The Talkback Turns To Shit
by Ill Clinton
Aug 2nd, 2005
12:25:05 AM
ILL CLINTON
by bushsux
Aug 2nd, 2005
12:58:46 AM
Oh ya
by RJ MacReady
Aug 2nd, 2005
01:31:19 AM
Nice way to dodge a bullet
by gg
Aug 2nd, 2005
02:06:51 AM
Just passing through... don't mind me...
by Octaveaeon
Aug 2nd, 2005
02:08:24 AM
I say we do like "Starship Troopers."
by Some Dude
Aug 2nd, 2005
04:22:34 AM
bushux You're Killing Me
by Ill Clinton
Aug 2nd, 2005
05:42:53 AM
Can anybody confirm that Iraq has the second largest oil reserve
by Rant Breath
Aug 2nd, 2005
05:54:28 AM
Aetius450
by Pumpkinsboy
Aug 2nd, 2005
07:11:41 AM
the "chicken hawk" fallacy (just for comrade Droog)
by lindyboy
Aug 2nd, 2005
07:45:28 AM
Nope, sorry, Droog.
by FluffyUnbound
Aug 2nd, 2005
07:55:34 AM
Impression of Artie Lang's manager trying to convince him to
by JossWorshiper
Aug 2nd, 2005
07:59:15 AM
I wish all Republicans were as honest as FluffyUnbound
by Pumpkinsboy
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:08:53 AM
But Fluffy.....
by Cameron1
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:16:06 AM
But Fluffy.....
by Cameron1
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:16:47 AM
Zombie- what failure of capaitalism?
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:17:55 AM
Except, Hitler's economic policies and beliefs were about as
by Cameron1
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:22:01 AM
It'e a generalisation, but a fair one....
by Cameron1
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:26:14 AM
Oh dearm another totally inappropriate Nazi analogy from the rig
by Pumpkinsboy
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:26:26 AM
On presidents.....
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:31:31 AM
National Socialism
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:34:47 AM
Kennedy AND Bush actually.
by Cameron1
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:35:16 AM
This is a Documentary.
by Orphu of Io
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:35:50 AM
But's about as tenuous a connection as anyone who voted for
by Cameron1
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:37:09 AM
Again
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:39:23 AM
Bush and Kennedy
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:41:35 AM
If you knew what the methods Hitler used to achieve such ends
by Cameron1
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:43:16 AM
If you knew what the methods Hitler used to achieve such ends
by Cameron1
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:43:18 AM
ok so kennedy was a shitty president in many respects
by Cameron1
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:46:44 AM
Proof
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:48:56 AM
the methods used to initiate and sustain such policy are incredi
by Cameron1
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:52:27 AM
Fascism, Socialism, Comuinism and you, Cameron
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:57:59 AM
Paternalism vs. Fraternity
by Cameron1
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:59:15 AM
RE:"do you people who compare Bush to Hitler know that Nazi mean
by Rant Breath
Aug 2nd, 2005
08:59:37 AM
At least..
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
09:00:00 AM
did you just say GB was a socialist country?
by Cameron1
Aug 2nd, 2005
09:03:32 AM
No, Cameron, I don't think so.
by FluffyUnbound
Aug 2nd, 2005
09:04:53 AM
Aryans...
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
09:05:39 AM
Fluffy I wasn't suggesting you let someone take you for a ri
by Cameron1
Aug 2nd, 2005
09:09:34 AM
Nanny State in the UK
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
09:14:05 AM
Projects, damn
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
09:15:59 AM
That the government here or in GB is inept is quite true
by Cameron1
Aug 2nd, 2005
09:20:48 AM
seriously....
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
09:28:31 AM
What's on TV? History repeating itself!
by Rant Breath
Aug 2nd, 2005
09:36:01 AM
Fluffy - Don't worry about wasting resourses.
by cookylamoo
Aug 2nd, 2005
09:45:35 AM
I'm a party part of the problem
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
09:47:14 AM
cooky-
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
09:53:20 AM
How did I miss that?
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
09:56:27 AM
No, cookylamoo, Larouche is something else.
by FluffyUnbound
Aug 2nd, 2005
09:56:48 AM
Fluffy also makes a good point
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
10:04:37 AM
full circle....
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
10:12:13 AM
playahatersball
by Pumpkinsboy
Aug 2nd, 2005
10:37:03 AM
Oh, the Horror of political debate on AICN. The Horror!
by Pumpkinsboy
Aug 2nd, 2005
10:54:46 AM
Bushsux, when exactly did Bill Clinton join the military? Or th
by bushsux
Aug 2nd, 2005
12:54:41 PM
Bush has taken exactly 50 vacations in 5 years. Dick Cheney and
by www.valiens.com
Aug 2nd, 2005
12:58:36 PM
Our Grandchildren won't carry our burden of tax.
by cookylamoo
Aug 2nd, 2005
02:17:25 PM
The return of the Forbidden Zone
by LeckoManiac
Aug 2nd, 2005
02:22:29 PM
Just an idea, not that anyone will pay attention...
by Octaveaeon
Aug 2nd, 2005
03:32:08 PM
Your hate has not made you powerful
by islander
Aug 2nd, 2005
03:39:49 PM
Pumpkin......
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
03:40:49 PM
Whoops...
by playahatersball
Aug 2nd, 2005
03:43:04 PM
uuggghhh.......Too many FOX NEWS victims around here!!!!
by TedSallis
Aug 2nd, 2005
03:56:00 PM
What Is A Libertarian?
by Winky Man
Aug 2nd, 2005
04:22:13 PM
It's a conservative who discovers he's made a terrible m
by cookylamoo
Aug 2nd, 2005
04:48:59 PM
Answer to "What is a libertarian"?
by bushsux
Aug 2nd, 2005
04:54:47 PM
Six Day War
by m2298
Aug 2nd, 2005
05:01:26 PM
Thanks For The Help, But Is Libertarian A Party Or A Concept Lik
by Winky Man
Aug 2nd, 2005
05:19:59 PM
Hey winky, instead of getting a bunch of biased interpretations
by Rant Breath
Aug 2nd, 2005
05:29:22 PM
Thanks Rant, If There Was A Actual Party Like That I'd Prob
by Winky Man
Aug 2nd, 2005
05:33:15 PM
In most states you will have the opportunity to vote for a Liber
by FluffyUnbound
Aug 2nd, 2005
05:43:14 PM
There is a Libertarian Party but first
by Rant Breath
Aug 2nd, 2005
05:46:21 PM
I Took It Twice, Thanks
by Winky Man
Aug 2nd, 2005
05:52:46 PM
There Are Other Parties As Well Winky
by Ill Clinton
Aug 2nd, 2005
06:06:51 PM
All of this would be relevant if not for the basic fact that....
by Kai_Mah'gra
Aug 2nd, 2005
07:10:16 PM
I Have Seen The Light?!
by PooButt
Aug 2nd, 2005
07:42:58 PM
Hey Winky (and anyone else who is ACTUALLY interested in ending
by Octaveaeon
Aug 2nd, 2005
07:55:42 PM
tombseye, I'm Not Here To Fact Check You So You Think That G
by Ill Clinton
Aug 2nd, 2005
10:11:55 PM
Why are most higher educated people liberal?
by Roger Thornhill
Aug 2nd, 2005
10:49:42 PM
Droog compounds his error by assuming that it is only, or primar
by FluffyUnbound
Aug 2nd, 2005
11:02:27 PM
Neo Imperialism
by Kinjikai
Aug 2nd, 2005
11:24:18 PM
Neo Imperialism
by Kinjikai
Aug 2nd, 2005
11:26:30 PM
Sweet Christ, FDR created the modern American middle class with
by SHIVA
Aug 2nd, 2005
11:35:24 PM
.......................
by the M'hael
Aug 2nd, 2005
11:59:44 PM
Liberal media
by gg
Aug 3rd, 2005
02:17:10 AM
GG take your med man
by JUSTICE41
Aug 3rd, 2005
02:51:45 AM
I think you need to stop YOUR medication, dude
by gg
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:05:51 AM
heheheheheheheheheh
by the M'hael
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:06:45 AM
Check out the story on Loral.
by JUSTICE41
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:07:35 AM
And, I
by gg
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:15:51 AM
Without a bases of comparison know one would know anything was a
by JUSTICE41
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:18:04 AM
If CNN were so goddamn liberal wouldn
by gg
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:18:59 AM
Is that the same Halliburton that Clinton employed to help in Ku
by JUSTICE41
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:24:59 AM
Duh!
by gg
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:26:52 AM
STOP DODGING THE BULLET!
by gg
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:31:10 AM
Just like when Fox was the first to report on Bush's drunk D
by JUSTICE41
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:31:10 AM
Droog, Thanks For Not Being Spiteful And A Bitch
by Ill Clinton
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:34:05 AM
GG,Yes you are. The fact you run from the label proves that.
by JUSTICE41
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:38:46 AM
Ill Clinton, Thank you for Serving man. Everyday I shake some wa
by JUSTICE41
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:42:28 AM
Hell Justice, I Support The War, Voted For Bush And I Say The Am
by Ill Clinton
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:47:06 AM
Just like when Fox was the first to report on Bush's drunk D
by gg
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:55:04 AM
Thank You For That Justice
by Ill Clinton
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:55:53 AM
Ok, just one more.
by gg
Aug 3rd, 2005
04:00:37 AM
That
by gg
Aug 3rd, 2005
04:01:59 AM
gg
by Ill Clinton
Aug 3rd, 2005
04:13:25 AM
he...
by gg
Aug 3rd, 2005
04:26:35 AM
It Was The Latter
by Ill Clinton
Aug 3rd, 2005
04:55:58 AM
Wow, i am not gonna get involved, because there is way too much
by Sakurai
Aug 3rd, 2005
05:21:47 AM
Look, I'm Glad Your Name Let's You Keep A Body, er "Girl
by Ill Clinton
Aug 3rd, 2005
06:06:16 AM
Israelis Zionists?
by m2298
Aug 3rd, 2005
09:38:54 AM
Ill Why Did You Vote for Bush
by madoo14
Aug 3rd, 2005
10:42:39 AM
No, the London police were not right to shoot that Brazilian man
by Shan
Aug 3rd, 2005
11:09:53 AM
Well, Droog, you finally produced a decent argument.
by FluffyUnbound
Aug 3rd, 2005
11:11:19 AM
One more time for Droog.
by lindyboy
Aug 3rd, 2005
12:17:58 PM
Back again for the first time....
by playahatersball
Aug 3rd, 2005
12:44:04 PM
Ill... heh, no Ill feelings mon.
by JUSTICE41
Aug 3rd, 2005
12:59:05 PM
Lindyboy and Chickenhawks
by madoo14
Aug 3rd, 2005
01:19:41 PM
Justice....
by playahatersball
Aug 3rd, 2005
01:20:16 PM
You guys do realize that if we let only veterans and the serving
by FluffyUnbound
Aug 3rd, 2005
01:29:49 PM
Starship Troopers
by playahatersball
Aug 3rd, 2005
01:31:27 PM
playahatersball
by madoo14
Aug 3rd, 2005
01:36:13 PM
dumbshit41 still thinks the US news has a liberal bias?
by Cameron1
Aug 3rd, 2005
01:36:25 PM
Starship Troopers
by Cameron1
Aug 3rd, 2005
01:43:54 PM
Madoo
by playahatersball
Aug 3rd, 2005
01:44:51 PM
Verhoven
by playahatersball
Aug 3rd, 2005
01:48:15 PM
hater
by madoo14
Aug 3rd, 2005
01:59:25 PM
Bush MO
by playahatersball
Aug 3rd, 2005
02:16:56 PM
No child should have to suffer from a bad education because of t
by Cameron1
Aug 3rd, 2005
02:53:03 PM
Madoo, Here's My Answer
by Ill Clinton
Aug 3rd, 2005
02:55:52 PM
on "the humanity involved" and "haters"
by lindyboy
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:04:33 PM
No moviemack, I don't need or expect a Thank You from you
by Ill Clinton
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:08:44 PM
I Thought Conservatives/Republicans Were Supposed To Be For Smal
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:15:12 PM
Another Funny Issue Is Abortion
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:20:28 PM
Zombie, I said . . . "I have some issues with Bush, but they are
by Ill Clinton
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:34:05 PM
As Much As You Might Like To Think It, It's Not All About Yo
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:40:14 PM
Terrorism Is A Faith Based Inititative
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 3rd, 2005
03:53:10 PM
Ill, I guess that makes sense . . . . kinda
by madoo14
Aug 3rd, 2005
04:02:56 PM
Lindy I'm sorry you think I am "ingenuine"
by madoo14
Aug 3rd, 2005
04:18:18 PM
Playahatersball, Naw dude. I was just born poor in Jamaica
by JUSTICE41
Aug 3rd, 2005
05:19:37 PM
I guess Saddam Hussein was an alright guy.
by Quin the Eskimo
Aug 3rd, 2005
05:33:04 PM
Zombie, What Does Your Ranting About Neo Cons Have to Do With ME
by Ill Clinton
Aug 3rd, 2005
05:51:56 PM
Oh, And I Forgot Nothing About Saddam (feeds the troll more Scoo
by Ill Clinton
Aug 3rd, 2005
05:55:08 PM
Uh, ILL CLINTON, ...
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 3rd, 2005
06:53:45 PM
As far as race relations are concerned
by cookylamoo
Aug 3rd, 2005
09:06:30 PM
The only religions I hate are the Evil ones, ...
by Diskatopia
Aug 3rd, 2005
10:56:55 PM
It's a bit much...
by lindyboy
Aug 4th, 2005
07:43:51 AM
I Don't Hate Any Relgion -- BUT, If You Steadfastly Believe
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 4th, 2005
08:45:43 AM
I love it when people proclaim "The free voice of the Iraqi peop
by cookylamoo
Aug 4th, 2005
09:09:13 AM
Wow this a fair movie. (sarcasim)
by Sakurai
Aug 4th, 2005
12:39:30 PM
I guess the word lie isn't PC enough
by madoo14
Aug 4th, 2005
12:51:23 PM
Zombie, I've Said Nothing About Religion In Any Of My Posts
by Ill Clinton
Aug 4th, 2005
01:17:28 PM
Good For You, Ill Clinton! Thanks For Sharing!
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 4th, 2005
01:41:49 PM
Point of order Madoo
by lindyboy
Aug 4th, 2005
02:03:08 PM
Lindy
by madoo14
Aug 4th, 2005
03:03:22 PM
Zombie, I Told You I Am Only Opposed To GOVERNMENT Handouts
by Ill Clinton
Aug 4th, 2005
03:37:35 PM
War vs. Its Alternatives
by madoo14
Aug 4th, 2005
04:03:23 PM
When Is It Justified Madoo?
by Ill Clinton
Aug 4th, 2005
06:33:26 PM
Guys, this thread is dead. D-E-A_D
by Cameron1
Aug 4th, 2005
06:59:53 PM
It's just point scoring now.
by Cameron1
Aug 4th, 2005
07:00:47 PM
I've Given My Lollipop To EXXON Instead...
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 4th, 2005
07:47:56 PM
Just Like A Liberal To Renege And Attack
by Ill Clinton
Aug 4th, 2005
08:09:14 PM
Cameron, Noooooooooooooo!
by Ill Clinton
Aug 4th, 2005
08:27:29 PM
Ill, let me clarify
by madoo14
Aug 4th, 2005
10:20:11 PM
Dude, fair is fair. You owe him a lollipop.
by madoo14
Aug 4th, 2005
10:20:51 PM
If it's any consolation, I know where you can get a lolypop
by cookylamoo
Aug 4th, 2005
10:59:11 PM
Madoo, I Agree With You
by Ill Clinton
Aug 4th, 2005
11:03:37 PM
I'm Sure Zombie Already Knows Cooky
by Ill Clinton
Aug 4th, 2005
11:06:15 PM
So It Really Isn't About The Handouts, It's About Who Th
by ZombieSolutions
Aug 4th, 2005
11:15:05 PM
Again, Saw It Coming (so to speak)
by Ill Clinton
Aug 4th, 2005
11:17:25 PM
Madoo (and diplomacy too)
by lindyboy
Aug 5th, 2005
07:32:03 AM
As Barry Goldwater once said....
by cookylamoo
Aug 5th, 2005
09:15:13 AM
Ill & Lindy
by madoo14
Aug 5th, 2005
12:08:31 PM
Madoo, Last One Here
by Ill Clinton
Aug 5th, 2005
12:59:55 PM

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