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AICN EXCLUSIVE! X3 Script Review! Plus An Open Letter To Tom Rothman And Fox Stockholders!!

Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...

Okay, I know, I know. I’m late with this. But you can thank Earthlink for that. Nine days without service of any kind. Amazing. I was starting to think that Avi Arad and Fox had paid Earthlink to crash my service.

Now, before we begin, let’s clarify a few things. Harry and I have not read the X-MEN 3 script, any version of it. We’ve got a new spy who has, though, and I’ve been able to verify that the version of the script he read was the “six-day-draft” that Simon Kinberg and Zak Penn wrote under the supervision of Matthew Vaughn. I like both Kinberg and Penn as writers, and I know that both of them are genuinely going to try to do right by the characters. However, this isn’t a case of two writers doing whatever they want. If it were, I don’t think there’d be anything to worry about.

You want to know who the main villain of X3 is going to be? Tom Rothman.

One of the reasons I started reading AICN, before I ever contributed anything to it, was because it demystified the development process. So often, blame (or credit) is assigned by fans to people for no particular reason. It’s easy to point a finger at a director or at a writer or even at a company like Marvel and assume that they were responsible for something, but having gone through the development process several times now for different studios (including Fox), I can tell you that more often than not, the truly terrible decisions can come from people whose names you never see onscreen.

When I call Rothman a villain, I’m well aware of how loaded that word is. I can’t think of anything more shocking this year, though, than the speech he gave at this year’s Saturn Awards. Here’s a show specifically designed to celebrate genre, a room filled with SF, fantasy, and horror filmmakers, and Tom Rothman gets up and not only lambasts everyone who writes about those genres, but also has the nerve to call himself a geek.

You, sir, are no geek. A geek would not have stripmined the ALIEN and PREDATOR franchises the way you did. A geek would not consistently value release dates and fiscal quarters over getting material right. Listening to him talk about what a friend he is to genre filmmakers was akin to being at a Shoah Foundation dinner where the guest of honor was Joseph Goebbels. This is the guy who chased Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin off an ID4 sequel after they made $600 million for the studio because he wanted to pay them half of what they made on the first film. This is the man who browbeat Stephen Norrington until he quit the business altogether. This is the guy who almost convinced Alex Proyas to give up filmmaking. How many genre filmmakers... great genre filmmakers... do you see returning to Fox over and over to make their films? And why, exactly, do you think that is?

By the way, Rothman... telling a ballroom full of people that you’re a geek because you fuck the star of SUSPIRIA and PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE every night? Classy. Very, very classy. But still... not the point.

If you’re a Fox stockholder, now is the time to be concerned. X-MEN is the only proven major franchise that Fox currently has up and running. Who knows if FANTASTIC FOUR is going to work or not? Maybe it’ll be great. Maybe it won’t. ALIEN VS PREDATOR marked the end of two franchises at the same time. STAR WARS was never yours in the first place. Studios depend on these types of films. There’s a reason they’re called tentpoles. This is what you build the entire rest of your release year around. If you manage one of these properties the right way, it’s the gift that keeps on giving. Look at the way Sony has handled SPIDER-MAN so far. As soon as they release one, they start developing the next one, giving them plenty of time to get the script just right. They don’t start shooting until this winter, but they’re already doing FX and costume tests, and they’re deep into the writing process based on an outline that Sam Raimi and his brother have been tweaking since last year.

You know when Rothman finally gave the go-ahead to start putting together the treatment for X-MEN 3? This February. I’m a chronic procrastinator, and even I think that’s piss-poor time management, man.

Here’s the thing about X-MEN. It may be one of the most flexible and durable film franchises I’ve ever seen. By the very nature of who the X-Men are, you can rotate cast in and out of the series without having to scrap continuity. This is already off to a better financial and creative start than the Bond franchise was, and you see the legs on that one. Why, then, would you allow a personal grudge to lead you to make decisions that will not only kill the golden goose, but also rape it and eat it?

And make no mistake... the rush to make that Memorial Day 2006 release date is about beating Bryan Singer to the screen. The acrimony involved in the Singer/Fox break-up is rich enough to write an entire book about, especially if it leads to the destruction of the franchise. This could turn into one of the all-time great displays of executive hubris in Hollywood. You want to know why you lost Singer to Warner Bros. and SUPERMAN in the first place? Because you took over a year to negotiate his deal to direct X-MEN 3. That should have been one of the biggest no-brainer decisions you could have ever made, but maybe you have to have a brain to make a no-brainer decision. You strung him along and strung him along and strung him along, and then when you had finally proven to him that you weren’t going to make things easy... you were too late. Alan Horn took full advantage of Bryan’s almost-fetishistic love of Donner’s SUPERMAN and your hesitancy, and he stole him from you. I don’t know what’s funnier... throwing Bryan off the lot using security guards, or the fact that you had to let him back on the lot immediately thereafter so he could shoot HOUSE for the studio.

What’s really amazing is how X-MEN was something Rothman hated from the start, no matter what he says now in public. I’ve spoken to at least ten people close to the production who have provided me with laundry lists of the ways that Rothman tried to fuck up the first film. Remember when they cut the budget and moved up the release date on the first X-MEN? You know why? Rothman was cutting his losses. He really, truly anticipated that the film would come out and vanish without a trace, and he would finally be rid of what he saw as a corporate albatross. Instead, the film clicked, and on the second film, Bryan Singer and his writers and the producers were all able to muster enough muscle to get Fox to give them the room they needed to make something even better.

That must have stuck in Rothman’s craw something fierce, and that’s what led to that massive slow-down after X-MEN 2. They should have made Bryan’s deal the following week, and they should have also locked in Dougherty and Harris and Tom DeSanto and Lauren Shuler-Donner and Ralph Winter and the entire production team and the cast and everyone else that was part of the creative alchemy that made the first two films work. I remember one year at BNAT when Tom DeSanto talked about the way they had been planting the seeds of the Dark Phoenix storyline and several others since the very first scenes of the first X-MEN. Who knows? Maybe someday Marvel will let DeSanto and Singer do a graphic novel or a limited-run series where they do the story they had in mind for X3 and X4 on the comics page so we can at least see where the films were originally headed. As it is, Rothman’s firmly back in charge of the franchise now, and that distaste for the material seems to be seeping back in.

Which is not to say that all the news is bad.

When I was first contacted by The Big Hurt, our new spy, I almost dismissed the review he sent us. Too much detail is almost always the giveaway for someone trying to troll you. But I was able to verify this with multiple sources all the way up the chain of command at Fox and Marvel, and I can tell you... even though some of the details of the script are still being hammered out, the spine of what you’re going to see onscreen next summer is right here. Harry seems to have implied in some of what he’s written that he feels this is an unmitigated disaster. I’m not so sure yet. I do know that there are some valid complaints here, particularly regarding the way the main menace of the film is almost a carbon-copy of the menace from the last film. Also, one of Rothman’s chuckle-headed notions that he kept trying to shoehorn into the first film, the idea of Storm and Wolverine having a steamy sexual relationship, has resurfaced now. Gee, I wonder why. But there’s stuff here that I like, and it sounds like there are some amazing sequences in store. Keep in mind also that what our spy read was rough, so even if the substance of a scene was right in the draft he read, the way it’s actually handled may be very different in the final version. Dialogue, the description of certain effects, the way an action scene is fleshed out... it’s still early days yet. And even with all those caveats, this is mostly a positive review.

I’ve really wrestled with how much to reveal of the spoilers, too. In the end, I hope we’ve erred on the side of caution, but I want to give you a sense of exactly why Avi Arad calls this “the most controversial film of the series.”

Next summer, Fox is cleaning house, and there are going to be a lot of bodies on the bonfire. Check this out:

If it’s an X3 bonanza you wanted, let’s get it going all the way, ay…

(Warning: Spoilers! And also a side note: I’ve only read the first two acts as the third act was locked down tighter than a Sharon Stone Basic Instinct vice grip on Michael Douglas’ groin.)

“A large silver BLADE slices through the black screen. Wolverine’s claw?

No. It is a STRAIGHT RAZOR, gleaming on a white counter in—

INT. UPSCALE BATHROOM – DAY

More MACRO SHOTS of: a rope, rubbing alcohol, steel brush, other strange instruments. Suddenly, we hear KNOCKING.

INT. PENTHOUSE HALLWAY – DAY

WARREN WORTHINGTON SENIOR, a patrician father in an expensive suit, knocks on the door. Concerned.

WARREN SENIOR

Warren, son, what are you doing in there?”

Yeah, so it gets bloody. Junior is trying to cut himself. But unlike the normal teenager who does it to alleviate pain by causing pain, he’s actually trying to cut something right out of himself. He’s trying to cut the mutant right out of his body; he’s trying to cut off his wings. But the blonde boy is unsuccessful, and we’re given Warren Jr. (not officially Angel just yet) as our first new X-Men character.

The very next scene shows a young Xavier and a young Erik Lensherr (Magneto) in the back seat of a car driven by a furry blue Beast of a man. The two have a conversation that is essentially a prequel of their confrontations to come. They are friends now, but combative and, in Erik’s case, somewhat competitive.

As their car slows down, the name on the mailbox outside the car is revealed – GREY. Both Xavier and Erik walk in confidently. Erik makes mention of not wanting to meet “every one of them in person,” and Xavier responds that “this one is special.” This interior scene parallels the Iceman/parents scene from X2, except Jean is only 13 and pretty obviously powerful beyond her years. She’s already reading Xavier’s thoughts and she manages to lift the entire neighborhood street’s worth of cars into the air. This isn’t the same Jean Grey we’ve known and loved in the first two films. This is something different.

Finally, the last introduction scene gives us a revisiting of the White House scene from the opening of X2.

“INT. WHITE HOUSE – HALLWAYS – DAY

A large, blue figure passes the PRESIDENTIAL SEAL on the wall. Something is moving, fast, through the corridors of the White House. It is eerily reminiscent of another blue creature at the start of another movie.

We see more glimpses of this thing: his big blue furry feet move deeper and deeper into the core of the building. Finally, he swoops past two MARINE GUARDS with machine-guns.

By the time they look up, he is already gliding through an imposing, high-tech door with the Presidential Seal over the words SITUATION ROOM. An alarm BEEPS, as we…

CUT TO:

INT. WHITE HOUSE – SITUATION ROOM – DAY

PRESIDENT

You’re late, Hank.

On the monitors, scanners have identified his genetic signature: HENRY MCCOY. SECRETARY OF MUTANT AFFAIRS. The alarms go silent.

HANK

Sorry, Mr. President. Traffic on the beltway.”

It seems the new presidency is much more accepting of mutantkind. But here we see what is both one of the strengths and one of the weaknesses of this script as a whole. The parallels to the first two films don’t go away. In fact, we see more of the exact same. In both the first two films, we had interesting and hearty character interactions and rapports, a well-developed villain in Magneto who is more greyly shaded than many realize, and some fun intros and boisterous second acts. Again, we have some interesting character introductions (heck, with such a plethora of good characters to choose from, it’d be hard not to get most of these right), and I’ll get into both Beast’s and Angel’s effective scenes in just a bit. But the villainous sidekicks always seem to get reduced to near Bane-like levels of idiocy (Sabretooth in X1, Lady Deathstrike in X2, and in X3 we have a listless Juggernaut, who is nothing more than a henchman among Magneto’s Brotherhood.) Also, the second act in X3 doesn’t cook nearly as much as the Military vs. the School of Mutants in X2, and it’s more discombobulated, like some of the scenes out of X1. We need one X-Men member to shine in the second act and basically take over the show (like Wolvie did in the school), but we’re not given that here.

Also, the main arching plot in these films is always some lame attempt by someone to change mutants to humans, humans to mutants, or kill one or the other. It’s no different in this script, too, as the plot consists mainly of Worthington Sr.’s plan to de-mutant the collective homo sapien superiors of the world by injecting them with a de-mutant serum. That’s right. A frikkin’ de-mutant serum that glows blue. What is it with the writers for this series and their fascination with serums and machines that alter genetic make-ups? So no, there is no Apocalypse. There are no Sentinels. What we have here is a good ol’ fashioned serum of death as our enemy of choice. And to prove it works, we get a firsthand glimpse of our favorite pseudo-naked blue mutant, Mystique, as she is injected with the serum and she becomes a no-longer-blue version of herself – I just hope she’s still naked when the transformation occurs.

Ok ok, it’s not all bad. There’s a prison break sequence involving a bunch of bad muties on Alcatraz Island. Magneto, amidst all the hubbub of the deadly serum, has once again decided to fight the homo sapiens with his homo superior force. Amongst those that he breaks out are Avalanche, Cannonball, and…

“That Cajun-looking fellow with a thick mop of hair: GAMBIT”

Also among those broken out of the prison is one Cain Marko, otherwise known as Juggernaut. But as mentioned above, he serves no other purpose than to be a lowly henchman for Magneto for the first two acts. What a complete and utter letdown. Gambit, too, doesn’t have anything interesting to do in the first two acts. His appearance is nothing more than a cameo, although he could play a role in the deciding fight at the end of the film, no doubt. Lastly, there is one prisoner who defies all laws of mutantcy and actually masks other mutants’ abilities whenever they near him. His name is Leech, and he is the focal point of the serum. Much like in X2, we have a pretty lame mutant who provides some sort of bodily secretion for a crazed man wanting to get rid of mutantkind – lame and vapid writing if you ask me. The scene ends with Magneto destroying the Golden Gate Bridge in order to build a new bridge for he and the escaped muties to flee on. His powers are on awesome display, and I again wonder why it is that he doesn’t just kill anyone in his path if his powers are so unbelievably strong. And if you say it’s because of Xavier, well, just keep reading.

On the X-Men front, Rogue is having trouble with Ice Man because they can’t touch each other. He begins flirting with Kitty Pride (aka Maggie Grace from “Lost”), and Rogue decides the mutant “cure” might be her best and only option to be with Bobby long-term. She also attends Brotherhood meetings, although the script is unclear if it’s because she’s spying on them or if she actually is contemplating joining. Rogue is again given one of the roundest and most dynamic roles in the film, and it’s too bad the script can’t find a way to make her more of a centerpiece instead of the occasional side moment. On the cool side of things (both literally and figuratively), Bobby and Kitty both share time in none other than the Danger Room. It’s a relatively short sequence, and it’s not all that well-written (of all the things you could do in something as neat as the Danger Room, why have a bunch of bullets flying at two mutants during a World War II setting?!?), but at least it’s given a nod in this film instead of completely forgotten about in the others. It’s easy to feel Bobby’s teenage desires kick in here over his loyalty and relationship with the untouchable Rogue. The X-Men scripts nail the interpersonal relationships of the X-Men and the Brotherhood (well, at least as far as Magneto and Mystique are concerned), and this film is no exception.

Beast has an interesting scene with Iceman and Kitty Pride when they infiltrate the Worthington company to decipher if the advertised mutant “cure” is for real or not. If done right, it could be one of the best sequences in the first two acts. The key will be getting Beast’s super dexterity to a realistically believable level. The script describes his movements as:

“breathtaking to behold. He is beyond agile, a blur of acrobatic blue fur. He works his way through the final gauntlet of security, and enters the main lab, where he snatches a sample of the cure.”

I just don’t want to end up with a big CGI-fest of movements like those that Yoda or the Emperor perform in Episode III. Talk about jarring and pulling you out of any semblance of reality… ugh. And the Kelsey Grammer casting isn’t exactly awe-inspiring either. Beast could end up being a cluster-fuck of a character if they don’t nail his CGI appearance and movements down.

Finally, in terms of the X-Men, my favorite scene in the script involves Warren Jr.’s decision to not undergo the “cure” to his mutant birth. With his wings held under his trench coat by a complex harness, the scene unfolds…

“WARREN

Wait, I don’t want to do this.

WORTHINGTON SR.

Warren, just calm down.

WARREN

No. Stop!

Worthington joins the orderlies in trying to hold him still.

WORTHINGTON SR.

Do it. Quickly!

Warren’s thrashing starts loosening the straps. He strains against his harness and suddenly…

SNAP!

The harness breaks into pieces and…

HIS WINGS UNFURL!

It is a magnificent sight, truly inspiring to behold. Everyone in the room freezes.

Even his father is speechless. For a moment.

WORTHINGTON SR.

Warren… we discussed this. This is what you want.

WARREN

No. It’s what you want.

Seeing the guards blocking the door, Angel spins to the glass windows –

WORTHINGTON SR.

Warren, NO!

And dives through them!

EXT. WORTHINGTON INDUSTRIES

The line of mutants look up as glass fragments explode out from the façade of the building. They watch in awe as…

AN ANGEL SOARS OVER THEM.

Some cross themselves, others merely stare, but none of them will forget this moment. They shield their eyes as ANGEL disappears into the sky.”

I have no idea what they plan on using Angel for in the future (Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, anyone?), but he ends up at the X-Mansion at the end of Act II. It’s where he belongs. For what little he is in the script that I have read, he’s given plenty of room to shine. It will be interesting to see what actor they get for the role and also what part the character will play in the finale.

Big surprise – Jean Grey does come back, except she’s not that shy, selfless girl learning to find and use her powers anymore. She’s something else entirely, and it’s a doozy. They don’t call her Phoenix, but it’s obvious she is no longer Doctor Grey. She has very little control of her powers at first, too. And when I say very little control, I mean it. Take this first encounter with her when our washed up Cyclops, with full-on scruffy look, decides to risk a trip back to Alkali Lake…

“The water parts.

Something emerges from the center of the lake.

A flicker gets brighter, lighting the lake.

A creature of PURE ENERGY rises from the depths.

It glows like a living star, emanating wave after wave of telekinetic energy.

Scott watches, awestruck, as the star slowly descends, and the maelstrom of gravity passes. As the glow flutters, Scott takes his first step forward.

He is shocked by what he sees in the epicenter:

SCOTT

Jean…?

She is alive. Jean Grey is reborn.

She looks at her limbs, her skin. Stunned, disoriented.

SCOTT (CONT’D)

(muttering)

A dream… Has to be a dream…

But she looks up. She seems real. She blinks, slowly recognizing him, memories flooding back now.

JEAN

(a whisper)

Scott?

Her voice makes him believe. His tears of pain turn to tears of joy. He steps toward her.

SCOTT

How… how could you come back?

Jean looks at her limbs again, feeling her power.

JEAN

(still dazed)

I don’t know.

Scott doesn’t care. He takes her in his arms, and holds her close, hugging tight. He pulls back, looks at her.

JEAN (CONT’D)

Take these off.

She reaches toward his glasses. He reels back, protecting her. She shakes her head, feeling her strength.

JEAN (CONT’D)

Trust me. I can control it.”

Except she can’t. The script describes Scott’s skin as “shivering” until he is simply de-molecularized. No more Cyclops. Poof, he up and vanishes like a fart in the wind. Now, I don’t have a particular fondness for the character of Cyke, and if he were the only X-Men character that she decimates, it might actually work for the better. James Marsden was never a particularly strong actor, and his only legitimate place in the first two films has been as the thorn in Wolverine’s side in acquiring the love of Jean Grey. But even Wolvie can smell something fishy about this particular version of Jean. And he finds out from the Professor that Xavier himself put mental blocks in Jean’s mind when she was young (remember the 13-year-old visit?) so that she couldn’t harm anyone with her extraordinary powers.

Unfortunately for Xavier, not only are those mental blocks now gone, but she also finds out from Magneto that the Professor put those blocks in without asking her. Big mistake. In a trip back to a setting from the beginning of the film, both Magneto and his Brotherhood (including henchman-like Juggernaut) meet Xavier and his X-Men at Jean’s old home. Jean, or what’s left of her, is inside and the Professor and Magneto go in alone to see her. This is when Magneto reveals to her that the Professor was the one who blocked her mind. She seems none too pleased with this, and the two mental powerhouses lock minds. [OKAY... HERE’S WHERE I HAD TO REMOVE A CHUNK OF THE MOST SPOILERY STUFF, SIMPLY BECAUSE I CAN’T RUIN IT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE THIS FAR AWAY FROM RELEASE - Moriarty]

I guess that’s one way to go about writing the Dark Phoenix Saga…

:rolls eyes and makes wretching motions toward the script:

So Cyclops is dead, and an annoying but sexually active Storm has taken his place as field leader. Magneto is ready to seize his opportunity of freedom to destroy mankind, although without his most helpful of mutants, Mystique, who is no longer a member of homo sapien superior-kind. And Phoenix is flying all crazy-like somewhere, just waiting to de-molecularize the next person who tries to kiss her or screw with her mind. Act III probably won’t be able to top the first two acts, both in effective character-building rapport (probably the best thing about the X-Men films, really) as well as sheer lunacy. The deaths or de-mutantinizations of four important characters from the first two films absolutely screams of problems with contract renewals. Oh well. I just hope they get Angela Bassett to lead the X-Men, because I sure as hell ain’t gonna buy into weak-assed Halle Berry leading the charge.

What works? The character interactions, especially the X-Men, are top-notch. I’m very wary about the Storm/Wolverine relationship, mostly because the two don’t do anything in the first two acts except screw each other, but besides that, the interplays between the characters are well done. The threesome of Bobby, Kitty, and Rogue are developed in a cogent and convincing manner. As mentioned above, Rogue is given some fleshy material for her character, and Paquin could run with it. Beast has an honest chance to stand out, too, although that could be for either good or bad reasons. The character is given a decent work-up as one of the original X-Men of Xavier’s school, and his interactions with the current X-Men and his physical feats are both well-written. Is it too much to ask that an actual artist be given the reins of animating his dexterous moments and blue furry self as opposed to some vacuous CGI wannabe? I think having a true artist in charge of these CGI moments is going to be paramount to whether or not Beast actually works on-screen or not. Also working in the script is Phoenix’s electric bursts – I may not agree with how and why the script makes her do what she does, but her power is undeniable. Let’s just hope that the effects look a little more interesting and real than the cartoonish fire Jean was emitting at the end of X2. Magneto, too, is given an interesting moment with Mystique as he recognizes she has been devolved into a human being. Whereas the X-Men band together, we see the divisive nature of the Brotherhood in action here, and it works. Lastly, the character intro for Angel as he flies out the window is nailed.

What’s not so hot? Well, the plot sucks, and that’s never a good sign. When the driving point of the plot is a blue serum derived from a useless mutant (read: Plot Device), I’d have to say the studio probably got its money’s worth out of the monkey assembly line in the basement. Ouch. If the Sentinels show up in the third act, it’s redeemed. Otherwise, this feels like a cop-out of sorts. Meanwhile, Wolverine feels like he’s been neutered (or is it just pussy-whipped by Storm?), and really doesn’t do much except hang out with Storm the whole time – not the best use of the most well-known X-Man around. And Storm’s annoying as usual. If they really want to hand the face of the X-Men over to Halle Berry, woe to the unsuspecting fan who walks into that theatre. Cyke dying wasn’t so horrible (he may’ve been the glue for the X-Men team, but he was just anal enough for me not to really care – plus, as I said above, Marsden was pretty mediocre), but [THE SECOND CHARACTER TO DIE] went out with almost nothing but a whimper. His character in this film is severely underdeveloped, and what’s worse is that they add Cain Marko just as [SOMEONE] is killed off? Weirdsville. The Mystique devolution really blows, too, as she’s the only character who could hold a candle to Magneto on the Brotherhood side of things. Say what you want about how they’ve overused the character in the first two films, but Romijin has actually grown into a decent actress in the last few years. Losing her feels like a punch in the gut to the credibility of the Brotherhood. Oh, and did I forget to mention the lack of decent action pieces? The Beast infiltration of the Worthington Industries lab isn’t bad, but it’s written as if it’s a 60-second montage, not a driving scene. Magneto’s break-in of the prison could be interesting, too, but it’s certainly not written as such on the page. The director is going to have to have vision to pull off both of these sequences, which leads to…

Good luck to the director who takes on this project. Vaughn probably knew this one was about to blow up in his face, and that’s why he ran. Maybe a strong writer can come in and still make this an effective script, but the main plot, and the utter oblivion of [ONE OF THE CHARACTERS] especially, are currently a death knell in this project. And now that Ratner’s aboard, well, good luck X-Fans is more like it.

Hope this message finds you and finds you well…

The Big Hurt

Regarding the Ratner issue, here’s what I’m thinking. I think he’s an entirely competent but uninspired filmmaker. I don’t hate his movies. There are moments where actors do nice work in his films, particularly in THE FAMILY MAN, where Tea Leoni, Nic Cage, and that amazing little girl all manage to overcome a by-the-numbers bit of treacle, and I think his films look really nice. Ratner surrounds himself with people who pick up the slack. The idea of Lalo Schifrin writing a score for an X-MEN movie gives me wood. I’m sure he’ll have a top-flight cinematographer and an amazing second-unit guy, so the action should be strong. We’ve still got the X-MEN cast in place, and Famke Janssen being front and center as Jean Grey is a good thing. She’s been waiting to really run with this character since she started, and she should be a blast to watch. Kelsey Grammer is a perfect choice for this particular version of The Beast, since he’s more politician than action hero, and Kelsey’s got exactly the right charisma to pull that off. If you’re looking to find something to get upset about, it seems like Ratner’s the least of the problems that this film has. I'd be more concerned about how two of the elder statesmen of the series are going to be leaving, and what that means for the franchise as a whole. I'd be more concerned about pushing Halle Berry, whose contempt for the series almost matches Rothman's, into the center of things. And I'd be especially concerned about marginalizing Wolverine, who is the undisputed star of the series so far. Don't piss Hugh off, guys, because you're going to need him to rebuild if this one doesn't work. And before you yell at me for not giving you the spoilers about who dies, I can tell you that the set-up to the film lays it all out pretty neatly. Read the review again. You know who dies. It's all right there.

The real problems are two-fold: money and time. By committing to that release date, Fox has also committed to spending whatever they have to, and they may well find themselves cutting sequences or characters simply because of budget. Let’s say Zak Penn and Simon Kinberg have cracked the problems with the script and they’ve managed to find a way to make that cure storyline something that (A) isn’t going to make Joss Whedon feel like he’s been ripped off and (B) isn’t an exact retread of the Stryker storyline in the second film. Let’s say the script is now amazing. When Fox runs up against the realities of getting this film onscreen when they say they’re going to, all we have to do is look at Rothman’s behavior in the past to anticipate what’s going to happen.

In a perfect world, Fox would blink. I’ve even heard whispers that, given the proper motivation, DeSanto and Singer and Dougherty and Harris would be more than happy to come back and, at the very least, brainstorm with the team that’s in place to try to make this thing great. No one wants to watch something they poured so much personal energy into crumble. No one, that seems, except the upper brass at Fox.

Forget the Sentinels. Forget Magneto. It’s Tom Rothman and his personal Brotherhood, guys like Alex Young and Hutch Parker, who are poised to finally kill off Xavier’s students once and for all.

For now, thanks to TheBigHurt, who did a hell of a job, and to you guys for your patience. Hope it was worth the wait. I’ll be back this week with reviews of THE ARISTOCRATS, BEWITCHED, BROKEN FLOWERS, MARCH OF THE PENGUINS, my new DVD SHELF, and a few script reviews of my own. Until then...

"Moriarty" out.






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What the hell??
by anuar
Jun 13th, 2005
03:16:21 AM
Oh dear...
by Charlie & Tex
Jun 13th, 2005
03:29:45 AM
So the other death is either...
by cranialooze
Jun 13th, 2005
03:38:57 AM
So Cyclops and Prof X bite it, huh?
by DarthHomercles
Jun 13th, 2005
03:45:05 AM
For the love of all things good in this world....
by seanny_d
Jun 13th, 2005
03:49:18 AM
Yeah, it aint Jean that dies
by Monkey Butler
Jun 13th, 2005
03:50:14 AM
I guess McSwanWeeny won't be trying to set up anything at Fo
by SmarkJobber
Jun 13th, 2005
03:50:23 AM
Kinsberg Video
by seanny_d
Jun 13th, 2005
03:51:22 AM
Ah, this made my whole morning....
by DocPazuzu
Jun 13th, 2005
03:53:50 AM
If anything remotely resembling this makes it to screen anyone w
by IndustryKiller
Jun 13th, 2005
04:00:26 AM
Yeah. This rips off Joss and the previous film very hard. Plus
by LordEnigma
Jun 13th, 2005
04:01:40 AM
Sounds like shit.
by Grando
Jun 13th, 2005
04:09:56 AM
Why is AICN censoring spoilers?
by NetSlut
Jun 13th, 2005
04:13:54 AM
They Should Call it X-Men Returns
by Harlow
Jun 13th, 2005
04:16:21 AM
XXX2 will be better than X3? Wow.
by spectrebeeyatch
Jun 13th, 2005
04:20:39 AM
I abandoned Marvel the moment magneto extracted wolverine's
by Anla'shok
Jun 13th, 2005
04:22:49 AM
Ludicrous, simply ludicrous
by PacinoHatersGoHo
Jun 13th, 2005
04:23:26 AM
Rothman
by MaulRat
Jun 13th, 2005
04:30:44 AM
X-Men 3
by jambaman84
Jun 13th, 2005
04:32:51 AM
From a Non Fan
by DarthBen
Jun 13th, 2005
04:33:57 AM
aw, fuck...
by tommy5tone
Jun 13th, 2005
04:35:09 AM
What can I say....
by MaulRat
Jun 13th, 2005
04:35:25 AM
me thinks Rothman needs a dictionary..
by MaulRat
Jun 13th, 2005
04:38:41 AM
That does sound pretty foreboding.
by buckaroo_banzai
Jun 13th, 2005
04:39:16 AM
Wolvie the Bad ASS
by DarthBen
Jun 13th, 2005
04:40:05 AM
Hopefully they fire Rothman over this
by chien_sale
Jun 13th, 2005
04:42:53 AM
Did someone lead Rothman to believe this was an Alan Moore prope
by PacinoHatersGoHo
Jun 13th, 2005
04:55:26 AM
here's your solution for the stupid-ass de-mutant serum x2 r
by BEARison Ford
Jun 13th, 2005
05:11:28 AM
Rothman is an idiot
by The_General
Jun 13th, 2005
05:23:40 AM
Couldn't Fox have this site shut down for reproducing copyri
by Cash Bailey
Jun 13th, 2005
05:32:20 AM
Whoever this Mr Rothman is, he kicked Devlin and Emmerich and sa
by SalvatoreGravano
Jun 13th, 2005
05:40:07 AM
CONGRATS MORI !!!!
by TenderBranson
Jun 13th, 2005
05:44:33 AM
Crap
by Peter Venkman
Jun 13th, 2005
05:45:06 AM
r.i.p x men 2000-2003
by tylerdurden6790
Jun 13th, 2005
05:45:39 AM
no way in HELL I'm gonna watch this abortion!
by frankenchr1st
Jun 13th, 2005
06:13:02 AM
mori, that was something...geez what a write up..youre right bre
by Spacesheik
Jun 13th, 2005
06:14:35 AM
well!ain't that a bitch?
by aldrin_amt
Jun 13th, 2005
06:25:06 AM
the suits vs. the artists
by stvnhthr
Jun 13th, 2005
06:25:57 AM
sorry for the double post, ignore the first one
by stvnhthr
Jun 13th, 2005
06:28:45 AM
It sounds like a remake of the last film, except ditching Cyke a
by Darksider
Jun 13th, 2005
06:31:35 AM
Kitty Pride sucks, Jean Greay needs to have have a dyke haircut,
by Mr. Profit
Jun 13th, 2005
06:36:42 AM
The Number One Xmen Fan Says.......
by BrainFart
Jun 13th, 2005
06:36:55 AM
Rothman is a typical studio executive
by Bari Umenema
Jun 13th, 2005
06:41:26 AM
Correction, *needs to NOT have a dyke haircut.
by Mr. Profit
Jun 13th, 2005
06:42:36 AM
Kinberg says the script has changed alot. Huh?
by Darksider
Jun 13th, 2005
06:45:54 AM
You've got wonder why we haven't seen a Wolverine flick
by Darksider
Jun 13th, 2005
06:52:52 AM
Ugh
by enemakid
Jun 13th, 2005
06:54:24 AM
Avi Arad is allowing this film to be made. He's openly suppo
by genro
Jun 13th, 2005
06:57:06 AM
They want X3 for Memorial Weekend? No fucking way X3 can compete
by Spacesheik
Jun 13th, 2005
06:59:29 AM
Good Gravy, some of you folks are so stupid
by InBloom
Jun 13th, 2005
07:06:05 AM
Genosha could have easily been used.
by Darksider
Jun 13th, 2005
07:07:23 AM
Creative decisions fueled by greed and personal vendettas - SWEL
by halfmadjesus
Jun 13th, 2005
07:14:00 AM
Of coarse ill still see it
by BrainFart
Jun 13th, 2005
07:17:03 AM
Game over man.....game over!!!!
by Big_Bubbaloola
Jun 13th, 2005
07:18:28 AM
DEVELOPMENT!
by Mr Chuff
Jun 13th, 2005
07:24:35 AM

by BrainFart
Jun 13th, 2005
07:27:14 AM
McWeeney, wtf?
by BurlIvesLeftNut
Jun 13th, 2005
07:28:02 AM
scratch that
by BrainFart
Jun 13th, 2005
07:30:24 AM
No mention of Nightcrawler
by Gheorghe Zamfir
Jun 13th, 2005
07:33:29 AM
There won't be a problem with too many blue mutants.
by Pops Freshemeyer
Jun 13th, 2005
07:44:03 AM
Shouldnt this news bump the USA up to amber alert
by BrainFart
Jun 13th, 2005
07:55:11 AM
Of course, the biggest problem with this...
by Celicynd
Jun 13th, 2005
07:58:02 AM
Whats wrong with having a Super Villan(s)?
by liljuniorbrown
Jun 13th, 2005
08:03:04 AM
I FUCKING HATE HOLLYWOOD
by RIVERO
Jun 13th, 2005
08:38:09 AM
Cyclops was one of the best characters in the first movie
by jonabbey
Jun 13th, 2005
08:45:52 AM
Yes, yes! Piss off Jackman!
by cutest_of_borg
Jun 13th, 2005
08:50:19 AM
I feel weird.
by Recognizer
Jun 13th, 2005
08:52:36 AM
So Fox is ruining another franchise? Say it isn't so!
by moviemaniac-7
Jun 13th, 2005
09:02:31 AM
Ugh.... cubed.
by Tarc
Jun 13th, 2005
09:04:19 AM
Scientology
by The Colonel
Jun 13th, 2005
09:05:41 AM
That review...
by monkey tamer
Jun 13th, 2005
09:06:22 AM
Do movie executives do their own dentistry? No. Do you know wh
by HypeEndsHere
Jun 13th, 2005
09:12:16 AM
Arad/Rothman
by Procrustean
Jun 13th, 2005
09:12:34 AM
Bring Back Singer, Desanto, and Team
by BringBack_Singer
Jun 13th, 2005
09:12:59 AM
The Avengers ain't happening.
by HypeEndsHere
Jun 13th, 2005
09:19:58 AM
AICN is to blame too
by BringBack_Singer
Jun 13th, 2005
09:20:25 AM
Lastly, fire Ratner
by BringBack_Singer
Jun 13th, 2005
09:22:38 AM
die rothman die
by reeeeeds
Jun 13th, 2005
09:30:02 AM
This just sounds like lazy writing...
by Childe Roland
Jun 13th, 2005
09:40:14 AM
Rothman meet Schumacher.
by BranMakMorn
Jun 13th, 2005
09:42:24 AM
This is why I read Aicn.
by metalpaul
Jun 13th, 2005
09:42:25 AM
sounds good to me
by irishfella
Jun 13th, 2005
09:45:27 AM
Well, fucking Jessica Harper was always MY dream job.
by cookylamoo
Jun 13th, 2005
09:47:38 AM
Kurt Vagner AWOL?
by Flansy
Jun 13th, 2005
09:48:58 AM
Rothman/ID5
by Flansy
Jun 13th, 2005
09:49:41 AM
This piece on Xmen 3 brought back - however briefly - the golden
by Spacesheik
Jun 13th, 2005
09:55:30 AM
wow...
by mikkimouse
Jun 13th, 2005
09:56:29 AM
Darthben said it
by ejcarter9
Jun 13th, 2005
09:57:57 AM
Columns like these are the reason I love this site! Mori, you d
by Lance Rock
Jun 13th, 2005
09:58:36 AM
Re-Hashed plot is bad enough, but...
by CatVutt
Jun 13th, 2005
10:03:39 AM
This may suck, but we will get 'Beast Hands' on the toy
by Big Bad Clone
Jun 13th, 2005
10:10:14 AM
X3 should practically write itself, yet their giving us this?
by Beotaimh
Jun 13th, 2005
10:14:45 AM
Medical plotlines make baby Jesus cry
by ejcarter9
Jun 13th, 2005
10:22:44 AM
poor patrick stewart he always gets written out of the picture t
by Spacesheik
Jun 13th, 2005
10:24:38 AM
Halle Berry doesn't deserve expanded role.
by stlfilmwire
Jun 13th, 2005
10:27:39 AM
I don't believe it.
by Mooly
Jun 13th, 2005
10:28:43 AM
Beotaimh is Singer?
by JaeZion
Jun 13th, 2005
10:35:34 AM
Schumacher 'em
by Eric Kurth
Jun 13th, 2005
10:41:01 AM
M.I.A.....
by sigviscious
Jun 13th, 2005
10:41:22 AM
Never fear, Prof X will be back in X-Men 4: The Search for X
by TheBaxter
Jun 13th, 2005
10:42:56 AM
P.S.
by JaeZion
Jun 13th, 2005
10:43:45 AM
um...crap?
by Greenleaf1
Jun 13th, 2005
10:45:28 AM
Superman is gonna beat X-men into the ground come 2006
by UltimaRex
Jun 13th, 2005
10:46:41 AM
Actually, Hank/Beast Did a "Break in at Brand" Bit in Avengers 1
by hipcheck13
Jun 13th, 2005
10:48:15 AM
And about killing Scott.
by CatVutt
Jun 13th, 2005
10:55:42 AM
Please Fox, NOOOOO!!!!
by Nachokoolaid
Jun 13th, 2005
10:59:04 AM
Lets Make Rothmans Life Hell!!!
by Kayfabe
Jun 13th, 2005
11:05:42 AM
Don't Touch Silver Surfer
by docfalken
Jun 13th, 2005
11:09:26 AM
What will it take...
by Trancer
Jun 13th, 2005
11:11:02 AM
Why, why, why, why!
by Jedi52
Jun 13th, 2005
11:12:25 AM
NEW VIDEO INTERVIEWS WITH BOTH ROTHMAN AND WRITER SIMON KINBERG
by RIVERO
Jun 13th, 2005
11:16:10 AM
..Or maybe the X-Men versus...
by Kid Z
Jun 13th, 2005
11:19:52 AM
James Marsden
by AshFett
Jun 13th, 2005
11:20:40 AM
I knew there'd be a couple a ID4 haters...
by iamnicksaicnsn
Jun 13th, 2005
11:24:22 AM
Fuck Hollywood, it's time the TALKBACKERS TOOK CONTROL
by Funkymonkey
Jun 13th, 2005
11:26:28 AM
The "Wolverine" movie ...
by Uga
Jun 13th, 2005
11:27:29 AM
I saw the Rothman interview in that Movie Reporter clip above an
by Spacesheik
Jun 13th, 2005
11:28:31 AM
Here's a *bad* idea...
by mbeemer
Jun 13th, 2005
11:28:44 AM
The Villain is morons who pay to see garbage.
by 2ndprize
Jun 13th, 2005
11:30:31 AM
Rothman finds a cure for midi-chlorians
by Press Lenox
Jun 13th, 2005
11:38:31 AM
Uga..the "Wolverine" movie.
by Mooly
Jun 13th, 2005
11:44:00 AM
IF IT ISNT GOOD
by Dmann
Jun 13th, 2005
11:44:02 AM
The 2006 Race-to-the-Bottom-of-the-Box- Office
by lynxpro
Jun 13th, 2005
11:45:37 AM
Another T3 disaster?
by LabattsBleu
Jun 13th, 2005
11:46:25 AM
Funky Monkey's Talkback "in control"
by JaeZion
Jun 13th, 2005
11:51:07 AM
Fox, take your pick...
by Nachokoolaid
Jun 13th, 2005
11:56:34 AM
About Devlin and Emmerich
by Ribbons
Jun 13th, 2005
11:57:25 AM
Holy Shit, that's TERRIBLE!
by theoneofblood
Jun 13th, 2005
11:57:50 AM
On Rothman's ID4 sequel decision
by moviemaniac-7
Jun 13th, 2005
11:58:43 AM
Vincent Cassell as Gambit
by JaeZion
Jun 13th, 2005
11:59:45 AM
O M F G
by abysstare
Jun 13th, 2005
11:59:52 AM
"Xavier never told you about your father..."
by fiester
Jun 13th, 2005
12:00:46 PM
I agree
by Ribbons
Jun 13th, 2005
12:04:46 PM
Semi-Related Question about Singer's SUPERMAN
by ZombieSolutions
Jun 13th, 2005
12:06:15 PM
No chance for Singer
by JaeZion
Jun 13th, 2005
12:07:05 PM
BTW
by Ribbons
Jun 13th, 2005
12:07:50 PM
Rothman can't really lose
by bigcheckonthat
Jun 13th, 2005
12:08:15 PM
sorry- damn enter key
by bigcheckonthat
Jun 13th, 2005
12:15:03 PM
hey Fox, FUCK YOU
by Strabo
Jun 13th, 2005
12:15:29 PM
My hopes just dwindled to almost nothing
by The Heathen
Jun 13th, 2005
12:15:40 PM
She kills Xavier and Cyclops?!?
by -guyinthebackrow
Jun 13th, 2005
12:16:49 PM
TEN THINGS WRONG WITH THIS MOVIE
by teddanson37
Jun 13th, 2005
12:17:05 PM
So, no Cyclops and Emma Frost in the sequel
by LordSoth
Jun 13th, 2005
12:18:38 PM
teddanson37
by The Heathen
Jun 13th, 2005
12:22:45 PM
Kinberg says this review is BS
by crazywill722
Jun 13th, 2005
12:22:53 PM
I'm no hardcore X-Men fan
by Bob of the Shire
Jun 13th, 2005
12:24:10 PM
Killing off Professor X?
by Dannychico
Jun 13th, 2005
12:28:44 PM
Hmmmmm.....
by MasterWhedon
Jun 13th, 2005
12:36:09 PM
Vincent Chase to play Aquaman? This is an outrage?!?!
by Kevin the Nerd
Jun 13th, 2005
12:40:59 PM
When people talk about how "the script's changed a lot"
by Ribbons
Jun 13th, 2005
12:42:13 PM
MasterWhedon???
by JaeZion
Jun 13th, 2005
12:42:16 PM
Hey Fox, FUCK YOU, redux
by Strabo
Jun 13th, 2005
12:45:55 PM
Some good points
by Nachokoolaid
Jun 13th, 2005
12:46:48 PM
in defense of Cyclops and other thoughts
by oisin5199
Jun 13th, 2005
12:47:17 PM
Industry Postings
by JaeZion
Jun 13th, 2005
12:48:59 PM
Great article. We need more of this...
by Mr. Waturi
Jun 13th, 2005
12:52:40 PM
To quote Bart Simpson
by Abefruman
Jun 13th, 2005
12:55:53 PM
you cant kill cyclops and professor x!!
by 2ndprize
Jun 13th, 2005
12:56:54 PM
A damm shame..
by perfecto_fan
Jun 13th, 2005
01:09:59 PM
X-Men Begins
by JaeZion
Jun 13th, 2005
01:13:31 PM
Sounds fine
by PoliMan4
Jun 13th, 2005
01:14:53 PM
"Controversial"
by abysstare
Jun 13th, 2005
01:16:13 PM
Hey Poliman! Read the whole thread, then shut up.
by JaeZion
Jun 13th, 2005
01:21:07 PM
FastandtheMorion?
by JaeZion
Jun 13th, 2005
01:22:34 PM
I haven't actually thought about how big this whole X3 situa
by brokentusk
Jun 13th, 2005
01:23:35 PM
BAN FANTASTIC FOUR!
by abysstare
Jun 13th, 2005
01:24:23 PM
"X-Men" in theaters May 2015.
by The Heathen
Jun 13th, 2005
01:24:37 PM
Third act revealed!
by CountVonGroovy
Jun 13th, 2005
01:27:24 PM
I have a funny feeling about this movie...
by GuyInGA
Jun 13th, 2005
01:27:52 PM
come on
by lofe101
Jun 13th, 2005
01:28:52 PM
Cyclops and Xavier die; Wolverine gets his own movie. Soooo...
by TheImperialGuy
Jun 13th, 2005
01:30:27 PM
Forget poverty, war, and famine...write your letters to FOx abou
by Bong
Jun 13th, 2005
01:32:00 PM
Train Wreck
by Waspo
Jun 13th, 2005
01:33:54 PM
Rothman and Other Suits
by aheartapart
Jun 13th, 2005
01:35:54 PM
Fox/Hollywood/Execs/The Weather
by bluebottle
Jun 13th, 2005
01:36:37 PM
Simon Kinberg
by The Heathen
Jun 13th, 2005
01:36:44 PM
preach, brother moriarty
by vicious_bastard
Jun 13th, 2005
01:38:00 PM
Let's start this whole boycott thing off early with Fantasti
by IndustryKiller
Jun 13th, 2005
01:41:03 PM
X3: What should have been
by abysstare
Jun 13th, 2005
01:44:00 PM
Right on! Boycott "Fantastic Four."
by aheartapart
Jun 13th, 2005
01:46:32 PM
I mean come on-
by bluebottle
Jun 13th, 2005
01:47:12 PM
THE X-NERDS, or Way ta run that douchbag down the road, Drew!
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 13th, 2005
01:49:57 PM
Hellfire Club
by I Speak Jive
Jun 13th, 2005
01:53:21 PM
Halle Fuckin Berry Sucks!!!!
by bryce
Jun 13th, 2005
01:53:38 PM
Bluebottle- You are the weakest link!
by abysstare
Jun 13th, 2005
01:54:22 PM
Screw you, BlueBottle!!!
by JaeZion
Jun 13th, 2005
02:03:21 PM
The more I read
by Eshu
Jun 13th, 2005
02:05:36 PM
God I hate studio executives. I hate them so very, very much.
by I Dunno
Jun 13th, 2005
02:06:04 PM
follow this link
by kancerx
Jun 13th, 2005
02:06:21 PM
Bring back David Hayter
by newbrak
Jun 13th, 2005
02:08:09 PM
I actually predicted...
by Childe Roland
Jun 13th, 2005
02:08:27 PM
David Hayter!!!
by JaeZion
Jun 13th, 2005
02:09:31 PM
"Fox doesn't cater to a niche audience"
by Ribbons
Jun 13th, 2005
02:10:09 PM
We can only hope.....
by JCubedz
Jun 13th, 2005
02:10:51 PM
Long Live Ribbons!!!!!
by JaeZion
Jun 13th, 2005
02:11:48 PM
Kinberg can't call this review bullshit.
by quantum_ken
Jun 13th, 2005
02:12:10 PM
I can relate to Hale Berry
by The Heathen
Jun 13th, 2005
02:12:21 PM
what's the deal with Norrington?
by Vern
Jun 13th, 2005
02:13:53 PM
The Worst Script They Could Have Done!!!!!
by The-Bat-Is Back
Jun 13th, 2005
02:16:34 PM
yeah Hayter is the way to go.
by newbrak
Jun 13th, 2005
02:16:41 PM
Childe Roland just crapped a better first draft out of his ASS!
by abysstare
Jun 13th, 2005
02:17:16 PM
I think that the problem is that execs DON'T DO COKE anymore
by HypeEndsHere
Jun 13th, 2005
02:17:25 PM
How many of you whiners have seen FF?
by oisin5199
Jun 13th, 2005
02:21:16 PM
" BAN FANTASTIC FOUR! "
by Thirteen 13
Jun 13th, 2005
02:23:09 PM
Harlow
by Ribbons
Jun 13th, 2005
02:26:39 PM
Vern
by Ribbons
Jun 13th, 2005
02:30:31 PM
Hale Berry has been demanding for some time now that she should
by Thirteen 13
Jun 13th, 2005
02:31:17 PM
Where Avi Arad's loyalties lie?
by MachinaMan
Jun 13th, 2005
02:32:33 PM
This article just goes to show
by Doc_Strange
Jun 13th, 2005
02:32:47 PM
Yeah, that's some good cryptic writing...
by DocBosch
Jun 13th, 2005
02:36:12 PM
right on
by lofe101
Jun 13th, 2005
02:43:53 PM
Halle Berry's demands are not being taken into account at al
by HypeEndsHere
Jun 13th, 2005
02:48:11 PM
Let's all take a deep breath...
by SidS
Jun 13th, 2005
02:51:25 PM
The Beast thing is a mistake
by Ribbons
Jun 13th, 2005
02:52:16 PM
I like Nachokoolaid's (sp) idea's, except for the Astero
by iamnicksaicnsn
Jun 13th, 2005
02:53:07 PM
I'd praise Fox if they got "death-touch" Goyer right now and
by The Heathen
Jun 13th, 2005
02:58:07 PM
The No Sentinels Thing is the Most Retarded
by ZombieSolutions
Jun 13th, 2005
03:05:07 PM
Ribbons
by Harlow
Jun 13th, 2005
03:16:44 PM
Now that I've vented about fucking studio execs, about the m
by I Dunno
Jun 13th, 2005
03:41:36 PM
Damn...
by adambalm
Jun 13th, 2005
03:43:29 PM
Great work, Mori
by BillEmic
Jun 13th, 2005
03:47:14 PM
I really tried but this sounds so bad...
by pastwatch
Jun 13th, 2005
03:52:10 PM
i'd be happy with this IF...
by teddanson37
Jun 13th, 2005
03:53:44 PM
I'm tell you, let ME direct this thing!
by LHombreSiniestro
Jun 13th, 2005
03:54:07 PM
the first x men film was 90 minutes long and was very short on a
by Spacesheik
Jun 13th, 2005
04:01:52 PM
Why Magneto convincing Phoenix to off "You-Know-Who" sucks:
by Ribbons
Jun 13th, 2005
04:03:41 PM
KILLING OFF CYCLOPS MASSIVE ERROR!!!!!!!!
by thunderbird77
Jun 13th, 2005
04:12:46 PM
X-cellent Talkback.
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 13th, 2005
04:16:53 PM
I'm sorry but....
by oisin5199
Jun 13th, 2005
04:20:23 PM
Devil'sOwn
by Ribbons
Jun 13th, 2005
04:25:53 PM
Well, that's it
by hamo455
Jun 13th, 2005
04:30:56 PM
If Halle Berry has a mohawk
by superninja
Jun 13th, 2005
04:32:14 PM
You're right - abysstare/aeZion
by bluebottle
Jun 13th, 2005
04:34:24 PM
oisin5199
by adambalm
Jun 13th, 2005
04:36:18 PM
too true, super ninja
by teddanson37
Jun 13th, 2005
04:36:43 PM
Good Lord! I know why they're doing this!
by CurryIce
Jun 13th, 2005
04:37:58 PM
Genosha sequel
by superninja
Jun 13th, 2005
04:44:55 PM
Michael Jackson not guilty on all charges!
by The Flashlight
Jun 13th, 2005
04:45:39 PM
See, your ideas make sense, Ribbons.
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 13th, 2005
04:45:56 PM
Funkymonkey
by Ribbons
Jun 13th, 2005
04:47:44 PM
adambalm
by oisin5199
Jun 13th, 2005
04:47:47 PM
You can't kill off Cyke without some emotional buildup
by superninja
Jun 13th, 2005
04:47:54 PM
Dreak Pheonix saga vs. dark pheonix saga
by thunderbird77
Jun 13th, 2005
04:49:55 PM
I don't know if I made that clear
by Ribbons
Jun 13th, 2005
04:54:18 PM
Fire vs. Ice
by adambalm
Jun 13th, 2005
05:00:53 PM
Holy crap, this sounds like it'll suck worse than Al Franken
by Swarmy
Jun 13th, 2005
05:03:51 PM
Jean Grey and Anakin Skywalker
by Sans Souci
Jun 13th, 2005
05:04:00 PM
They're killing off Marsden to bring in Michael Biehn
by Dannychico
Jun 13th, 2005
05:12:28 PM
Focus on Marvel. Avi has more to lose if the fanbase goes after
by genro
Jun 13th, 2005
05:17:53 PM
punched at a screening?
by LHombreSiniestro
Jun 13th, 2005
05:19:59 PM
Misdirected frustration at Halle
by MachinaMan
Jun 13th, 2005
05:28:54 PM
1 Month - San Diego Con - FF and Ghost Rider. Marvel films will
by genro
Jun 13th, 2005
05:29:02 PM
but hugh jackman said
by Krangelus
Jun 13th, 2005
05:34:39 PM
Thunderbirds Death!
by thunderbird77
Jun 13th, 2005
05:38:27 PM
MachinaMan
by aheartapart
Jun 13th, 2005
05:39:25 PM
I bet Hugh Jackman. . .
by JCubedz
Jun 13th, 2005
05:39:49 PM
NOW I AM GLAD FOX DIDN'T HIRE ME LAST WEEK
by bubcus
Jun 13th, 2005
05:41:21 PM
"Being all that she can be..."
by Ribbons
Jun 13th, 2005
05:42:54 PM
BTW...
by MachinaMan
Jun 13th, 2005
05:43:11 PM
The mutant cure element is such a damn joke
by Mr.TambourineMan
Jun 13th, 2005
05:45:13 PM
The "original" X-Men, and killing Professor X
by Ivan_Mtl
Jun 13th, 2005
05:45:46 PM
so f'in wrong
by JSheaStanley
Jun 13th, 2005
05:52:22 PM
It's the end of the X-franchise as we know it...
by Zardoz
Jun 13th, 2005
05:54:55 PM
FF will suck and blow at the same time!
by Zardoz
Jun 13th, 2005
06:00:09 PM
Not about the actors playing the roles
by docfalken
Jun 13th, 2005
06:02:55 PM
aheartapart
by MachinaMan
Jun 13th, 2005
06:07:19 PM
Pheonix
by Sweeper Jones
Jun 13th, 2005
06:08:03 PM
Childe Roland and Ol' One Eye
by MasterWhedon
Jun 13th, 2005
06:09:10 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong...
by adambalm
Jun 13th, 2005
06:11:15 PM
It's pretty obvious who the Other two are Who DIE.
by Atomica
Jun 13th, 2005
06:12:03 PM
marvel movies
by whatyoufear
Jun 13th, 2005
06:12:24 PM
And Ribbons is right...
by MasterWhedon
Jun 13th, 2005
06:13:30 PM
what i meant to say
by whatyoufear
Jun 13th, 2005
06:13:55 PM
Captain_Walker
by MachinaMan
Jun 13th, 2005
06:17:32 PM
it's time to stop this nonsense.
by Vncentfilmerset
Jun 13th, 2005
06:19:36 PM
COOLEST POTENTIAL MOMENT...
by MasterWhedon
Jun 13th, 2005
06:21:35 PM
MachinaMan
by Ribbons
Jun 13th, 2005
06:22:34 PM
You know the best way to handle this?
by MattCG
Jun 13th, 2005
06:26:17 PM
Why is it that people who don't understand movies are placed
by Russman
Jun 13th, 2005
06:26:51 PM
Michael Jackson, Not Guilty
by Doc_Strange
Jun 13th, 2005
06:27:18 PM
You f-ing can't kill Xavier! It's just wrong!
by -guyinthebackrow
Jun 13th, 2005
06:31:47 PM
MachinaMan missing the point
by bryce
Jun 13th, 2005
06:33:42 PM
DamntheTorpedoes, Master Whedon, and my grammar
by Ribbons
Jun 13th, 2005
06:38:11 PM
How to fix this movie
by TROMA
Jun 13th, 2005
06:39:51 PM
Better story out of my ass...
by Neighbor Jim
Jun 13th, 2005
06:42:42 PM
After reading just the first few paragraphs, I pronounce this mo
by Russman
Jun 13th, 2005
06:46:15 PM
bryce
by MachinaMan
Jun 13th, 2005
06:48:04 PM
FIRST, bitches!
by DAS JANKE
Jun 13th, 2005
06:52:22 PM
cow-tow'ing to Halle Berry
by riskebiz
Jun 13th, 2005
07:01:15 PM
MachinaMan
by bryce
Jun 13th, 2005
07:04:08 PM
You are correct, sir.
by riskebiz
Jun 13th, 2005
07:23:55 PM
General Ranting
by TheBri
Jun 13th, 2005
07:28:25 PM
Would write long comment., but so very bored...
by Gordonsalive
Jun 13th, 2005
07:38:23 PM
Showing my age...
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 13th, 2005
07:41:03 PM
Why X-Talkbacks take so much time to read through
by OptimusPrimeTime
Jun 13th, 2005
07:54:50 PM
Brett Ratner now is the least of our worries it seems ROFL --- h
by Spacesheik
Jun 13th, 2005
08:03:33 PM
No CENSORING SPOILERS PLEASE. IT"S AICN not MSNBC We're prep
by flipster
Jun 13th, 2005
08:35:17 PM
that shoulda read Rothman not lohman (thought the latter applies
by flipster
Jun 13th, 2005
08:37:26 PM
BTW doesnt Fantastic Four also have a Golden Gate bridge action
by Spacesheik
Jun 13th, 2005
08:45:36 PM
Storm's death
by eule
Jun 13th, 2005
09:03:53 PM
x2 sucks x2 sucks x2 sucks
by angrykirby.tk
Jun 13th, 2005
09:12:16 PM
womans perspective...save cyclops!!!
by mimic
Jun 13th, 2005
09:16:44 PM
am i reading this right....
by amievil
Jun 13th, 2005
09:33:11 PM
modifications and adaptations
by oisin5199
Jun 13th, 2005
09:50:46 PM
I want Havok to show up at some point and interact with his brot
by Big Bad Clone
Jun 13th, 2005
09:54:46 PM
Character continuity? HA ha ha ha!
by Ribbons
Jun 13th, 2005
09:56:13 PM
EVERYONE NEEDS TO START SCREAMING THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO
by Hail
Jun 13th, 2005
10:05:50 PM
boycot it
by tsnatch
Jun 13th, 2005
10:09:43 PM
Moriarty is keeping this site alive.
by Fantomex
Jun 13th, 2005
10:13:27 PM
Wow, that sucks.
by NGrey
Jun 13th, 2005
10:50:27 PM
What? Jacko got off? With this legal system? THE HELL YOU SAY!
by axelfoley
Jun 13th, 2005
10:57:30 PM
GUYS, WE SHOULD ALL BOYCOTT 'THE FANTASIC 4' ON THE JULY
by RIVERO
Jun 13th, 2005
11:01:30 PM
Childe Roland...
by Nachokoolaid
Jun 13th, 2005
11:10:06 PM
Huzzah?
by Ribbons
Jun 13th, 2005
11:10:38 PM
Scratch that
by Ribbons
Jun 13th, 2005
11:11:32 PM
I have my midnight tickets for Begins!!!
by spectrebeeyatch
Jun 13th, 2005
11:25:18 PM
Well, at least we have Jackman's Seed all over Wolverine...
by DOGSOUP
Jun 13th, 2005
11:25:46 PM
That sounds pretty AWFUL
by wadew
Jun 13th, 2005
11:39:40 PM
Why isn't Storm getting killed off?
by soccerjack
Jun 14th, 2005
12:07:09 AM

by soccerjack
Jun 14th, 2005
12:13:52 AM
ahs-hoooo
by MimiRogers3rdNip
Jun 14th, 2005
12:14:04 AM
Fuck Jackman, Fuck Avi Arad. They have failed us!
by chien_sale
Jun 14th, 2005
12:19:21 AM
FOX should be aware
by FarSky
Jun 14th, 2005
12:19:21 AM
Huh?
by chica
Jun 14th, 2005
12:23:59 AM
Who wants to know the saddest part about this X3 thing?
by X3isFucked
Jun 14th, 2005
12:25:56 AM
If this really is the movie, then it will bomb so very badly
by Serious Black
Jun 14th, 2005
12:27:33 AM
Very depressing, to say the least.
by Jordo
Jun 14th, 2005
12:47:21 AM
I don't know
by Ribbons
Jun 14th, 2005
01:08:08 AM
FunkyMonkey
by MaulRat
Jun 14th, 2005
01:12:27 AM
Cyclops
by Chaka
Jun 14th, 2005
01:15:30 AM
Jackman and Robin!
by JaeZion
Jun 14th, 2005
01:16:20 AM
and STOP POSTING YOUR OWN TREATMENTS!!!
by JaeZion
Jun 14th, 2005
01:28:22 AM
This movie is going to suck!
by Angelus_420
Jun 14th, 2005
01:33:52 AM
The cast of X-Men 2 had an "incident" wih Bryan Singer
by Ezekiel
Jun 14th, 2005
01:35:06 AM
Ezekiel
by Ribbons
Jun 14th, 2005
01:41:58 AM
Premiere Magazine May 2003...
by JaeZion
Jun 14th, 2005
01:51:35 AM
Holy shit.
by LightinthePiazza
Jun 14th, 2005
01:57:29 AM
Oh, and not to be too nitpicky
by Ribbons
Jun 14th, 2005
02:19:33 AM
Also...
by Ribbons
Jun 14th, 2005
02:24:36 AM
I've had time to think this over...
by Nachokoolaid
Jun 14th, 2005
02:34:22 AM
That script FUCKING SUCKS
by zabbadoo
Jun 14th, 2005
02:36:35 AM
Man, that's bad fucking news...
by kintar0
Jun 14th, 2005
02:41:50 AM
You know what is great? The writer knows his goose is cooked
by MrCere
Jun 14th, 2005
02:45:58 AM
Rothman, I hope you're reading these
by caerlas
Jun 14th, 2005
03:22:07 AM
Let's not lose perspective in all this prospection.
by InBloom
Jun 14th, 2005
03:24:51 AM
It's a crock!
by Northstar 21
Jun 14th, 2005
03:29:34 AM
InBloom....
by Nachokoolaid
Jun 14th, 2005
04:05:22 AM
Just give it a chance
by Northstar 21
Jun 14th, 2005
04:13:38 AM
InBloom you have some balls and I admire that but...
by spectrebeeyatch
Jun 14th, 2005
04:19:59 AM
it's time to stop this nonsense.
by Vncentfilmerset
Jun 14th, 2005
04:28:50 AM
Twilight of the X-Men
by GreatWhiteWhale
Jun 14th, 2005
04:41:39 AM
Twilight of the X-Men
by GreatWhiteWhale
Jun 14th, 2005
04:41:46 AM
Twilight of the X-Men
by GreatWhiteWhale
Jun 14th, 2005
04:41:53 AM
InBloom
by eule
Jun 14th, 2005
04:45:29 AM
The script could be alright
by bigcheckonthat
Jun 14th, 2005
05:09:44 AM

by bigcheckonthat
Jun 14th, 2005
05:12:22 AM
Agreeing with what several others have already said...this is th
by Swarmy
Jun 14th, 2005
05:14:19 AM
This Review is ALL Wrong
by Prior Walter
Jun 14th, 2005
05:16:17 AM
how the *beep* are you going to stop Dark Phoenix without Cyclop
by Lutz
Jun 14th, 2005
05:18:39 AM
This cant happen but it will
by Mr Chuff
Jun 14th, 2005
05:20:12 AM
Also, When Gambit is Introduced
by Prior Walter
Jun 14th, 2005
05:30:06 AM
Forge
by Prior Walter
Jun 14th, 2005
05:47:24 AM
it's time to stop this nonsense.
by Vncentfilmerset
Jun 14th, 2005
05:59:07 AM
I tell you one thing if future X Men film DO NOT have Stewart an
by Spacesheik
Jun 14th, 2005
06:22:17 AM
Castings
by GreatWhiteWhale
Jun 14th, 2005
06:23:53 AM
Xavier IS NOT Malcolm X, he s Martin Luther King. Magneto is Mal
by TonyWilson
Jun 14th, 2005
06:54:31 AM
Eule
by InBloom
Jun 14th, 2005
06:55:22 AM
This is a BAD. FUCKING. IDEA!!
by Steve Rogers
Jun 14th, 2005
06:56:41 AM
One last thing
by Vncentfilmerset
Jun 14th, 2005
07:27:42 AM
Rothman
by aheartapart
Jun 14th, 2005
07:28:18 AM
One last thing
by Vncentfilmerset
Jun 14th, 2005
07:29:28 AM
Nice work Moriarty
by Krazy Eyez Killa
Jun 14th, 2005
07:38:28 AM
DOWNLOAD IT!!
by Mr Chuff
Jun 14th, 2005
07:49:48 AM
Piracy Can Save Hollywood from Itself
by aheartapart
Jun 14th, 2005
07:57:55 AM
Well, this sucker's gonna be DOA but I WILL pay to see Nona
by Laserbrain
Jun 14th, 2005
08:03:05 AM

by icarus1970
Jun 14th, 2005
08:08:34 AM
Anyone from FOX read this yet? Or Avi?
by Mr Chuff
Jun 14th, 2005
08:09:32 AM
Vaughn
by Mafu
Jun 14th, 2005
08:19:07 AM
The Angel stuff sounds good, but the rest, particularly those DE
by Drath
Jun 14th, 2005
08:21:19 AM
Another Alternative
by icarus1970
Jun 14th, 2005
08:21:49 AM
Tom Rothman is the New Jon Peters
by Han Frodo
Jun 14th, 2005
08:26:39 AM
Well its a good thing your not writing it.
by X3isFucked
Jun 14th, 2005
08:34:28 AM
reply to X3isFucked
by icarus1970
Jun 14th, 2005
08:42:31 AM
Tom Rothman, you're an asshole of fucking EPIC proportions..
by TV CASUALTY
Jun 14th, 2005
08:43:09 AM
it's time to stop this nonsense.
by Vncentfilmerset
Jun 14th, 2005
08:50:33 AM
Tell them you think Rothman and company are douchebags
by aheartapart
Jun 14th, 2005
09:02:01 AM
i love the fact that aicn thinks they're powerful enough to
by ZO
Jun 14th, 2005
09:03:54 AM
fans have the power
by bgaulke
Jun 14th, 2005
09:26:09 AM
"Lloyd Bentsen-style dressing down"
by JackRabbitSlim
Jun 14th, 2005
09:26:23 AM
this sucks.........but.......
by blackthought
Jun 14th, 2005
09:33:17 AM
No no no...
by doobieflixx
Jun 14th, 2005
09:49:35 AM
For lofe101, MasterWhedon and Nachokoolaid:
by Childe Roland
Jun 14th, 2005
09:51:47 AM
aheartapart
by Ribbons
Jun 14th, 2005
09:54:05 AM
Fuck hollywood...Read Comics
by wickedd
Jun 14th, 2005
09:58:20 AM
Like we didn't see this coming?
by slide1
Jun 14th, 2005
10:05:48 AM
Jouko Ahola for COLOSSUS!!!
by Flansy
Jun 14th, 2005
10:28:38 AM
Wait, does this mean that Colossus doesn't get an expanded r
by Kai_Mah'gra
Jun 14th, 2005
10:32:22 AM
Gambit fans?
by ejcarter9
Jun 14th, 2005
10:35:50 AM
Okay Were forgeting something...
by w_woody
Jun 14th, 2005
10:45:00 AM
3rd Act Optimism
by Han Frodo
Jun 14th, 2005
10:54:24 AM
Ok, I don't mind the serum since it's from 'Astonish
by zbrokenpoet
Jun 14th, 2005
10:57:56 AM
Either Moriarty is ballsy as hell or he just likes to sabotage h
by godoffireinhell
Jun 14th, 2005
11:08:59 AM
Anyone who has anything good to say about this just doesn't
by DenizenZERO
Jun 14th, 2005
11:09:56 AM
it's time to stop this nonsense.
by Vncentfilmerset
Jun 14th, 2005
11:11:01 AM
just use one of the classic claremont storylines...
by LabattsBleu
Jun 14th, 2005
11:17:40 AM
petition
by Serial_Mom
Jun 14th, 2005
11:30:29 AM
Prior Walter and things we'll never see
by oisin5199
Jun 14th, 2005
11:40:08 AM
Serial_Mom
by Vncentfilmerset
Jun 14th, 2005
11:42:17 AM
X-MEN DEMAND A BIGGER UNIVERSE OR UNIVERSES
by LilOgre
Jun 14th, 2005
11:51:39 AM
On Treatments and Respect for the Fans
by MasterWhedon
Jun 14th, 2005
11:52:18 AM
petition
by Serial_Mom
Jun 14th, 2005
11:55:11 AM
MEANT TO SAY...
by LilOgre
Jun 14th, 2005
12:10:07 PM
Prior Walter - if what you say is true, then why hasn't Avi
by genro
Jun 14th, 2005
12:54:53 PM
It's not funny, MasterWhedon
by I Dunno
Jun 14th, 2005
12:59:15 PM
Prior Walter
by TheRealMoriarty
Jun 14th, 2005
01:12:16 PM
Huh, so that's where Jessica Harper went.
by Lenny Nero
Jun 14th, 2005
01:18:06 PM
6 day script vs 6 MINUTE TREATMENT
by RezE11even
Jun 14th, 2005
01:52:48 PM
WRONG INFORMATION
by SicilianGecko
Jun 14th, 2005
01:53:08 PM
Recasting...
by Mr.TambourineMan
Jun 14th, 2005
02:27:14 PM
it's time to stop this nonsense.
by Vncentfilmerset
Jun 14th, 2005
02:33:47 PM
What if Rogue...
by Zardoz
Jun 14th, 2005
02:41:49 PM
i've thought this over...
by teddanson37
Jun 14th, 2005
03:26:09 PM
"Do you know what happens when a franchise gets struck by a bad
by TheImperialGuy
Jun 14th, 2005
03:29:15 PM
A couple things
by The Pusher
Jun 14th, 2005
03:34:34 PM
Let your freak flag fly!
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 14th, 2005
03:36:49 PM
You guys with hard-ons for giant robots...
by Ribbons
Jun 14th, 2005
03:54:44 PM
JSheaStanley
by samsquanch
Jun 14th, 2005
04:10:24 PM
I must confess...
by PolyesterRage
Jun 14th, 2005
04:26:40 PM
it's time to stop this nonsense.
by Vncentfilmerset
Jun 14th, 2005
04:43:14 PM
A word about X2 being not so good.
by caerlas
Jun 14th, 2005
04:46:22 PM
Hey, you'll get no argument from me Ribbons!
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 14th, 2005
04:49:44 PM
Adress of the petition:
by Vncentfilmerset
Jun 14th, 2005
04:52:24 PM
I wouldn't say I'm a purist...
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 14th, 2005
04:58:02 PM
Actually Ribbons...
by LilOgre
Jun 14th, 2005
05:02:22 PM
The Ending **SPOILER**
by Prior Walter
Jun 14th, 2005
05:04:52 PM
Prior Walter, are you serious?
by MasterWhedon
Jun 14th, 2005
05:14:55 PM
Serious
by Prior Walter
Jun 14th, 2005
05:22:41 PM
Oh, Christ...
by MasterWhedon
Jun 14th, 2005
05:28:53 PM
PLEASE ACTUALLY STOP AND READ THIS
by Hedidthat
Jun 14th, 2005
05:33:10 PM
I'll Say It Again...
by TheRealMoriarty
Jun 14th, 2005
05:33:40 PM
LilOgre and Prior Walter
by Ribbons
Jun 14th, 2005
05:53:10 PM
By the way, I followed your link
by Ribbons
Jun 14th, 2005
05:59:20 PM
If I Were Gonna Lie...
by Prior Walter
Jun 14th, 2005
06:03:07 PM
Ribbons, Sentinels, etc...
by LilOgre
Jun 14th, 2005
06:19:16 PM
One more thing
by LilOgre
Jun 14th, 2005
06:26:10 PM
Again
by Ribbons
Jun 14th, 2005
06:32:46 PM
Okay
by Ribbons
Jun 14th, 2005
06:33:33 PM
Win a walk-on role in X3
by HurricaneRobby
Jun 14th, 2005
06:41:01 PM
forgot link
by HurricaneRobby
Jun 14th, 2005
06:44:02 PM
It's not about the robots...
by oisin5199
Jun 14th, 2005
06:47:25 PM
it's time to stop this nonsense.
by Vncentfilmerset
Jun 14th, 2005
06:50:09 PM
oisin
by Ribbons
Jun 14th, 2005
06:51:24 PM
"could" as in future tense, not past tense
by Ribbons
Jun 14th, 2005
06:52:01 PM
dstrbo1
by JSheaStanley
Jun 14th, 2005
07:05:48 PM
X3
by Trinity28
Jun 14th, 2005
07:25:32 PM
Why, Fox, Whhyyy!!!
by tourist eater 22
Jun 14th, 2005
07:28:18 PM
Sentinels can't be realized
by eule
Jun 14th, 2005
07:29:22 PM
Sounds Like The Death Of The Franchise
by Barron34
Jun 14th, 2005
07:32:28 PM

by Dog Of Mystery
Jun 14th, 2005
07:34:32 PM
Dog of Mystery
by Ribbons
Jun 14th, 2005
07:42:20 PM
San Diego Comic Con
by bryce
Jun 14th, 2005
07:52:58 PM
GKR
by halfmahalfn
Jun 14th, 2005
07:54:07 PM
The brood would be rude.
by halfmahalfn
Jun 14th, 2005
08:00:07 PM
Nerves man... it's digging at my nerves...
by tourist eater 22
Jun 14th, 2005
08:17:51 PM
Nerves man... it's digging at my nerves...
by tourist eater 22
Jun 14th, 2005
08:20:15 PM
So what have we learned?
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 14th, 2005
08:41:03 PM
X-Men
by hip_12
Jun 14th, 2005
09:08:23 PM
Storylines and budgetary constrictions
by Ivan_Mtl
Jun 14th, 2005
09:09:11 PM
Fuck all this shit... the god has returned !!!
by IAmLegolas
Jun 14th, 2005
09:35:00 PM
Alas, I was never a Transformers fan.
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 14th, 2005
09:40:46 PM
trilogy problems
by tourist eater 22
Jun 14th, 2005
09:41:37 PM
You are clueless if you think the colour of Halle Berry's sk
by Lutz
Jun 14th, 2005
09:48:48 PM
yep
by blackthought
Jun 14th, 2005
09:56:19 PM
Concerning the good things in this script...
by Nachokoolaid
Jun 14th, 2005
10:01:10 PM
Psylocke
by tourist eater 22
Jun 14th, 2005
10:01:30 PM
Exactly! Nachokoolaid's got it!
by tourist eater 22
Jun 14th, 2005
10:09:48 PM
X-Men's Saved !!!
by hip_12
Jun 14th, 2005
10:38:18 PM
x-3 and life
by mykreed
Jun 14th, 2005
11:05:12 PM
Wrong link and why we need a Danger Room, more Cyclops and Colos
by oisin5199
Jun 14th, 2005
11:15:09 PM
And another thing about the Sentinels
by LilOgre
Jun 14th, 2005
11:17:13 PM
Is it Electra 2??? Cyclops cant die!! Where is Bryan Singer must
by Brazilian_in_rio
Jun 14th, 2005
11:37:24 PM
X3 official teaser poster...
by Nachokoolaid
Jun 15th, 2005
12:16:27 AM
official X3 website
by Nachokoolaid
Jun 15th, 2005
12:26:53 AM
Non-descript evil masterminds SUCK ASS
by CJA
Jun 15th, 2005
02:11:41 AM
This Version is Unoriginal (and Halle isn't so bad)
by adolfoliver
Jun 15th, 2005
02:59:13 AM
it's time to stop this nonsense.
by Vncentfilmerset
Jun 15th, 2005
04:38:12 AM
YEAH!
by hank quinlan
Jun 15th, 2005
05:20:23 AM

by wrbenson
Jun 15th, 2005
07:18:52 AM
I am disappointed.
by TopHat
Jun 15th, 2005
07:27:57 AM
This falls to my thesis...that is third movies in Super Hero fra
by wrbenson
Jun 15th, 2005
07:32:25 AM
HeDidThat: I did as you asked...
by InBloom
Jun 15th, 2005
07:53:09 AM
its a dooozy
by Krangelus
Jun 15th, 2005
08:34:35 AM
Ummm... Just a few questions
by monkey tamer
Jun 15th, 2005
09:35:08 AM
For believability's sake...
by ejcarter9
Jun 15th, 2005
09:47:45 AM
Devil'sOwn, You mean Mrs. Clinton wins the next election?
by ejcarter9
Jun 15th, 2005
09:51:13 AM
Perhaps we should all...
by SidS
Jun 15th, 2005
09:52:53 AM
Now stop and think just one damn minute
by Subtlety
Jun 15th, 2005
10:29:48 AM
You owe me ten bucks...
by Childe Roland
Jun 15th, 2005
10:42:19 AM
ejcarter, actually I was referring to our current fearless leade
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 15th, 2005
11:03:04 AM
So, does Cyclops have to be dead in the comic, too??
by cookylamoo
Jun 15th, 2005
11:13:57 AM
TopHat
by oisin5199
Jun 15th, 2005
11:44:02 AM
Devil'sOwn, you started it
by ejcarter9
Jun 15th, 2005
11:45:29 AM
ejcarter, I... "started it?"
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 15th, 2005
12:12:25 PM
BTW
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 15th, 2005
12:38:53 PM
Devil'sOwn
by ejcarter9
Jun 15th, 2005
12:47:22 PM
Twinkies
by Ribbons
Jun 15th, 2005
12:53:56 PM
BTW
by Ribbons
Jun 15th, 2005
12:54:50 PM
Sense & Simplicity
by Ultraman2000
Jun 15th, 2005
01:00:06 PM
An evening with Kevin Smith
by zekmoe
Jun 15th, 2005
01:24:40 PM
Geez ! Thanks for pointin' that out to me, ejcarter!!
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 15th, 2005
01:27:17 PM
No problem Devil'sOwn
by ejcarter9
Jun 15th, 2005
01:29:11 PM
Ratner rant on G4's Attack of the Show!
by goonie
Jun 15th, 2005
01:29:57 PM
Also...
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 15th, 2005
01:32:50 PM
X-3 Poster...
by JaeZion
Jun 15th, 2005
02:14:23 PM
Several days later and I'm still pissed about this shit.
by -guyinthebackrow
Jun 15th, 2005
02:58:44 PM
TopHat is a sad, sad little man.
by mortsleam
Jun 15th, 2005
04:07:06 PM
Havent watched G4 since they murdered TSS
by JCubedz
Jun 15th, 2005
04:10:19 PM
Abandon Ship
by X3isFucked
Jun 15th, 2005
05:51:26 PM
it's time to stop this nonsense.
by Vncentfilmerset
Jun 15th, 2005
06:33:29 PM
Mortsleam
by oisin5199
Jun 15th, 2005
06:42:45 PM
Despite what I've read.
by dr_dreadlocks
Jun 15th, 2005
08:07:45 PM
If Brett Ratner really once said ...
by Shan
Jun 15th, 2005
08:12:15 PM
X-Men- LIVE FREE OR DIE!
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 15th, 2005
08:41:08 PM
I hope FOX is paying attention to all this.
by Blobs
Jun 15th, 2005
09:04:42 PM
Exactimundo, Blobs.
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 15th, 2005
09:11:05 PM
So, is Grando Calrisian in this latest "advance script" rumor, o
by Techtite
Jun 15th, 2005
09:51:52 PM
Regardless of who directs, the script has to be good.
by Shan
Jun 15th, 2005
10:09:44 PM
Simon Kinberg and "shacking up"
by Ribbons
Jun 15th, 2005
11:19:39 PM
Like I said..
by X3isFucked
Jun 15th, 2005
11:44:22 PM
BTW
by X3isFucked
Jun 15th, 2005
11:48:54 PM
too true X3isF'd
by teddanson37
Jun 16th, 2005
12:11:32 AM
Exactly!
by tourist eater 22
Jun 16th, 2005
12:20:24 AM
Well...wait...
by Phimseto
Jun 16th, 2005
12:24:10 AM
Exactly X3isFucked
by Ribbons
Jun 16th, 2005
12:39:25 AM
Also...I wish I could have watched those video interviews with K
by Ribbons
Jun 16th, 2005
12:42:49 AM
Its come to this...
by dirkcalloway
Jun 16th, 2005
12:57:18 AM
A Blow to the Head.
by Shan
Jun 16th, 2005
01:51:42 AM
So its been a few days...
by GreatWhiteWhale
Jun 16th, 2005
08:10:47 AM
And if...
by GreatWhiteWhale
Jun 16th, 2005
08:22:36 AM
Prior Walter?
by JaeZion
Jun 16th, 2005
08:35:20 AM
he doesn't
by X3isFucked
Jun 16th, 2005
08:55:00 AM
Prior Walter
by GreatWhiteWhale
Jun 16th, 2005
08:58:04 AM
umm...
by GreatWhiteWhale
Jun 16th, 2005
09:01:05 AM
X3....
by blackthought
Jun 16th, 2005
11:09:52 AM
Go Ahead Throw Costumes on 'em
by cabsau
Jun 16th, 2005
12:40:57 PM
Vaughn's a genius
by MarlboroMan
Jun 16th, 2005
12:57:12 PM
What the @#*CK?
by goddessgyrl
Jun 16th, 2005
01:02:24 PM
Christ.
by ChurchOfZod
Jun 16th, 2005
01:30:33 PM
FUCKING NERDS I'M WITH CHUCHOFZOD!!!
by pontiac
Jun 16th, 2005
02:08:32 PM
Ah. The suits have finally read this talkback.
by ejcarter9
Jun 16th, 2005
02:26:05 PM
Powermetal1
by X3isFucked
Jun 16th, 2005
03:13:32 PM
I'M NOT A SUIT DICKWEED
by pontiac
Jun 16th, 2005
03:23:22 PM
Um, did anybody notice the Goebbels reference?
by JohnWooTangClan
Jun 16th, 2005
03:42:38 PM
The script sounds fine to me, but I wish stopping sentinals was
by The Founder
Jun 16th, 2005
03:42:57 PM
aintit cool news legitimate fan forum...buddy!.
by thunderbird77
Jun 16th, 2005
04:07:47 PM
JohnWooTangClan
by Ribbons
Jun 16th, 2005
05:05:17 PM
Mathew Vaughn knew something we didnt thats why he left -- nuff
by Spacesheik
Jun 16th, 2005
05:06:59 PM
it's time to stop this nonsense.
by Vncentfilmerset
Jun 16th, 2005
06:27:47 PM
Hats off to you, Mori!
by Johnny Ahab
Jun 16th, 2005
07:27:31 PM
Nona Gaye Should Be Storm
by FlickChick
Jun 16th, 2005
07:29:53 PM
drew,,
by X3isFucked
Jun 16th, 2005
08:21:13 PM
Hopefully Batman Begins will make a ton of Bank...
by El_Barstardo
Jun 16th, 2005
08:45:20 PM
Someone at fox must pay
by Meremoth
Jun 16th, 2005
09:44:16 PM
rothman
by blackthought
Jun 16th, 2005
10:23:30 PM
Killing for Money
by flossygomez
Jun 16th, 2005
10:29:16 PM
Johnny Ahab
by Ribbons
Jun 16th, 2005
10:31:09 PM
Ratner - Hope he mixes it up
by flossygomez
Jun 16th, 2005
10:33:19 PM
flossy gomez
by oisin5199
Jun 16th, 2005
11:21:20 PM
Goebbels and Rothman
by Ribbons
Jun 16th, 2005
11:35:16 PM
Post
by Ribbons
Jun 16th, 2005
11:35:47 PM
You're right Ribbons
by JohnWooTangClan
Jun 16th, 2005
11:36:23 PM
oisin5199...I'm a friggin idiot!
by flossygomez
Jun 17th, 2005
12:05:18 AM
everyone does it..
by X3isFucked
Jun 17th, 2005
12:28:07 AM
I have no idea who Tom Rothman is, but he sounds like a real dou
by Mr. Anderson
Jun 17th, 2005
01:38:23 AM
Satan's black worm jism: Redux.
by TonyWilson
Jun 17th, 2005
03:58:43 AM
rothman!!!!!!!!
by blackthought
Jun 17th, 2005
10:16:50 AM
proven source material better than writing on the go.
by thunderbird77
Jun 17th, 2005
11:53:14 AM
I saw a piece on MTV about why it's important to remain loya
by Ribbons
Jun 17th, 2005
12:28:09 PM
it's time to stop this nonsense.
by Vncentfilmerset
Jun 17th, 2005
02:06:44 PM
OK, I get it
by ejcarter9
Jun 17th, 2005
02:11:32 PM
if..
by Vncentfilmerset
Jun 17th, 2005
02:24:00 PM
Natasha Henstridge as the White Queen
by LordSoth
Jun 17th, 2005
02:47:16 PM
'Blade: Trinity' was SO Goyer's fault
by Ribbons
Jun 17th, 2005
03:56:28 PM
I've got a good idea! We could try remote prayer...
by -guyinthebackrow
Jun 17th, 2005
06:54:22 PM
He's not a geek - he's a dick
by Psylocke/Iceman
Jun 17th, 2005
07:02:10 PM
Personally...
by dirkcalloway
Jun 17th, 2005
07:27:01 PM
I absolutely hate Joss Whedon, but...
by ZeroCorpse
Jun 17th, 2005
08:32:32 PM
if you had to recast....
by blackthought
Jun 17th, 2005
08:34:42 PM
Hey Ribbons, about the Hulk script comment...
by Johnny Ahab
Jun 17th, 2005
09:26:12 PM
Note to Ribbons - Part II
by Johnny Ahab
Jun 17th, 2005
09:28:56 PM
Hey, fellow "geeks"...
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 17th, 2005
10:45:54 PM
"Collaboration". Sorry.
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 17th, 2005
10:49:51 PM
So stop sittin' around, slack-jawed fanboys!
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 17th, 2005
10:55:51 PM
(In best Cartman voice)
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 17th, 2005
11:10:17 PM
Goyer...
by Ribbons
Jun 17th, 2005
11:39:11 PM
All-New, All-Different X-Men
by Ribbons
Jun 17th, 2005
11:40:07 PM
Cyclops
by dirkcalloway
Jun 18th, 2005
12:21:27 AM
Some good news?
by ejcarter9
Jun 18th, 2005
12:21:47 AM
very interesting link....
by Freakemovie
Jun 18th, 2005
12:35:52 AM
yeah right!!!
by Annamaria
Jun 18th, 2005
12:44:20 AM
new cyke
by blackthought
Jun 18th, 2005
12:58:56 AM
Reading all this made me want to cry....
by winemonkey
Jun 18th, 2005
03:10:54 AM
Sorry, Ribbons.
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 18th, 2005
09:41:51 AM
UNCANNY X-MEN Reboot
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 18th, 2005
11:08:11 AM
Yeah, interesting link.
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 18th, 2005
11:24:14 AM
All movies have to have aset release date
by JUSTICE41
Jun 18th, 2005
01:10:08 PM
Yes, JUSTICE41, I understand.
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 18th, 2005
01:42:50 PM
It is disturbing...
by Magunga
Jun 18th, 2005
02:47:55 PM
maybe it will be good
by teddanson37
Jun 18th, 2005
03:54:58 PM
Devil'sOwn, it was two years ago
by JUSTICE41
Jun 18th, 2005
05:19:10 PM
JUSTICE41
by Ribbons
Jun 18th, 2005
07:58:02 PM
I'm Ron Burgundy?
by Ribbons
Jun 18th, 2005
07:58:30 PM
Sounds good to me, JUSTICE41.
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 18th, 2005
08:03:23 PM
Sorry guys it was back in 2003.
by JUSTICE41
Jun 18th, 2005
08:18:31 PM
This of course was only in response to how long ago everyone was
by JUSTICE41
Jun 18th, 2005
08:23:31 PM
Couldn't agree more.
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 18th, 2005
09:41:27 PM
Ribbons!!!
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 18th, 2005
09:55:56 PM
re-write? kiss my ass.
by X3isFucked
Jun 18th, 2005
10:31:50 PM
What?! Cillian Murphy was mah-velous in 'Batman Begins.'
by Ribbons
Jun 18th, 2005
11:30:04 PM
Batman Begins was fantastic
by X3isFucked
Jun 18th, 2005
11:53:49 PM
Dirty Sanchez
by dirkcalloway
Jun 19th, 2005
12:05:40 AM
Cillian Murphy was great as Scarecrow!!!!
by dirkcalloway
Jun 19th, 2005
12:07:10 AM
Wolverine and Storm and oh yeah, Halle Berry
by Passions Kiss
Jun 19th, 2005
12:25:47 AM
So?
by Ribbons
Jun 19th, 2005
12:34:11 AM
So?
by Passions Kiss
Jun 19th, 2005
12:46:02 AM
I'm not worried.
by fishjimboding
Jun 19th, 2005
01:06:19 AM
No one has figured out why characters have to be killed by The P
by JUSTICE41
Jun 19th, 2005
01:14:35 AM
rothman has heard you pleas!
by blackthought
Jun 19th, 2005
01:23:24 AM
nightcrawler will NOT be in X3
by Vncentfilmerset
Jun 19th, 2005
02:53:37 AM
More Good ews
by bryce
Jun 19th, 2005
03:57:05 AM
No crawler?
by G666
Jun 19th, 2005
04:33:40 AM
Blue Mutants
by Ribbons
Jun 19th, 2005
08:31:26 AM
hmm..
by X3isFucked
Jun 19th, 2005
11:46:44 AM
Well, considering theyre giving the worst chaaracter more screne
by dirkcalloway
Jun 19th, 2005
11:49:00 AM
nightcrawler
by blackthought
Jun 19th, 2005
12:01:11 PM
Again...
by Ribbons
Jun 19th, 2005
12:05:05 PM
No Nightcrawler.
by MasterWhedon
Jun 19th, 2005
12:51:02 PM
Murphy was one of the things I was looking forward to in Begins.
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 19th, 2005
01:15:55 PM
Actually...
by Ribbons
Jun 19th, 2005
02:07:28 PM
why we'll miss nightcrawler
by teddanson37
Jun 19th, 2005
02:17:08 PM
Casting is Screwing with Team Chemistry
by stlfilmwire
Jun 19th, 2005
02:30:09 PM
blahblah i am a nerd
by d8cam
Jun 19th, 2005
06:22:13 PM
I was really hoping the news wouldn't get any worse.
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 19th, 2005
07:36:17 PM
Fuck! I'm so upset, I can't even spell!!
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 19th, 2005
07:42:05 PM
THIS IS SO.........RONG!!!! WHAT ARE THEY DOING
by GreenL07
Jun 19th, 2005
07:53:18 PM
With apologies to Robert Sanchez... THIS SUCKS SOUR FROG'S A
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 19th, 2005
08:11:41 PM
Game over, man! Game over!!
by Devil'sOwn
Jun 19th, 2005
08:23:39 PM
RIP Nightcrawler
by adolfoliver
Jun 19th, 2005
08:25:30 PM
huh?
by blackthought
Jun 19th, 2005
08:33:09 PM
adolfoliver
by Ribbons
Jun 19th, 2005
09:39:50 PM
HOLY SHIT
by rogue_290
Jun 19th, 2005
09:51:53 PM
ribbons
by adolfoliver
Jun 20th, 2005
02:12:23 AM
Goebbels?
by DennisMM
Jun 20th, 2005
03:45:47 PM
erm best post yet
by madeupkid
Jun 21st, 2005
08:48:29 AM
It Comes Down To Marvel
by DeathStalker
Jun 21st, 2005
09:05:46 AM
Check out this shit
by I Dunno
Jun 21st, 2005
10:57:02 PM
Are we being punk'd??
by xxhplinkxx
Jun 22nd, 2005
01:06:48 PM
X-Men 3: The Death of A Franchise
by Zuberlan
Jun 22nd, 2005
01:07:49 PM
isn't that illegal?
by meaghant
Jun 24th, 2005
12:23:21 PM
Not likely, meagahant
by I Dunno
Jun 24th, 2005
06:48:41 PM
I feel sick...
by Hushman
Jul 1st, 2005
07:46:12 AM
What's the hurry?
by Panik
Jul 3rd, 2005
07:16:59 PM
Y not Hellfire club?
by DillonX316
Jul 15th, 2005
12:06:52 PM
Changes that are needed
by armyofninos
Aug 1st, 2005
11:57:02 PM
The X-Men 3 Ending
by blue_julian_rap
Aug 9th, 2005
11:31:05 PM
egads!
by Jenscot
Dec 20th, 2005
11:37:43 AM
They have made massive changes to this scipt since...
by Novaman5000
Apr 28th, 2006
01:57:27 PM
Pretty inexcusable?
by TELF
Apr 28th, 2006
04:06:54 PM
Anchorite...
by TheRealMoriarty
Apr 28th, 2006
04:06:56 PM
no, but we can blame you
by samsquanch
Apr 28th, 2006
08:51:10 PM
What News Is There?
by TheRealMoriarty
Apr 28th, 2006
10:40:57 PM
Last!!!!!!!!!! Ever!!
by vanfan
Jun 8th, 2007
09:42:18 AM
x3 sucks balls
by supercowbell4therequestformore cowbell
May 3rd, 2009
09:19:00 PM

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