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OCEAN'S 12 needs to be 86ed' That's one person's opinion!!!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with an early look at OCEAN'S 12 from a test screening in the NRG Mecca of Scottsdale, AZ. This one ain't too positive, but I seem to differ a bit from the below reviewer's opinion (like how I about busted a gut laughing at Ron Burgandy's dog, etc), but having said that... I wasn't the world's biggest fan of the last flick. It read real great on paper, but lost a little on the translation, in my opinion. It was great to see Clooney dominating every frame as usual and I love me my Bernie Mac, but on the whole I just didn't feel much one way or the other about the film... Very much like I feel now about the sequel. I hope it's fun, but only time will tell. Anyway, on with the review!!!

Hiya Harry,

Longtime lurker, etc etc.....

Last night I had an opportunity to see the "First Screening to an audience" of Oceans 12 here in Scottsdale AZ at the Harkins Cinema Capri.  According to the PR group the print they showed was about 98% complete, however it was played in Stereo, some of the dialogue was muted and a 15-20 second voice over was missing.   

To start with, what a complete waste of a cast.   The original "11" are all back, with the addition of Julia Roberts now making the total to 12.   Obviously with 12 stars sharing the screen, each character is going to get limited face time.   However, what they did with this cast was atrocious.   Bernie Mac - gets a total of 2 or 3 lines.   Andy Garcia?  Shows up to get his money back with his best menacing face in the first 5 minutes, then completely disappears for the rest of the movie.  Matt Damon plays his character for laughs this time as the young guy learning the ropes, the rookie so to speak.    Brad Pitt is still eating his way through scenes, but he and Clooney's witty repartee mostly falls flat this time.

Spoilers -

The major problems with the film are Catherine Zeta Jones, Julia Roberts, the staging of the robberies and the Editing

Jones's character just happens to be THE GREATEST DETECTIVE OF ALL TIME, instantly deducing a crime scene beyond anyone's reasonable ability.   In their first heist the Oceans 11 crew raises a apartment building a few inches on hydraulic jacks so they can create the only shot that will work for the rappelling line.   After walking into the crime scene for the first time she announces "you'll find the building has been raised, and that the "black fox" was even here first.   It is just a completely ridiculous jump in logic.     Plus, she probably get the most screen time, looking hot mind you, but her character is just not interesting.  

Julia Roberts looks awful,.  Throughout her brief screen time, she is shot without any makeup.   It's not really a pretty sight.   For a movie icon and superstar, it becomes really disconcerting when Clooney kisses her, as a Julia without makeup kissing a superstar Clooney doesn't add up.  Additionally, in the last heist, Julia Roberts - get this -  plays JULIA ROBERTS the IRL movie star to distract the security at the museum.  WINK WINK, very cute, and completely lacking in inspiration.  A lot of sighs were heard in the theatre as it didn't play very well.   About as well as Will Ferrell talking to his subtitled dog in Anchorman.

Soderberg has pulled every editing tool out of his belt, and often the rapid cut scenes and set up are nausea inducing as opposed to "Rat Pack Cool". 

On a last note, the original Oceans 11 heist seemed reasonable in its execution - which I like and admire about all great "theft" movies.  All of the thefts and robberies in this one are just beyond belief - including a 007 hologram Faberge egg.  Just not possible. 

Anyway, 1 bronsky out of 5, call me the HEADHUNTER


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Julia Roberts plays Julia Roberts in disguise? Ugh
by Vic_
Sep 10th, 2004
12:39:40 AM
FRIST
by ledbetter51
Sep 10th, 2004
12:44:36 AM
damn
by ledbetter51
Sep 10th, 2004
12:46:14 AM
maybe part of the heist are the filmmakers making you believe th
by microwavable?
Sep 10th, 2004
12:54:21 AM
too many stars
by Messyjoe
Sep 10th, 2004
01:08:29 AM
First movie was felt empty
by Gheorghe Zamfir
Sep 10th, 2004
01:09:04 AM
I don't rate this review because it sounds like it was made by a
by Tall_Boy
Sep 10th, 2004
01:11:27 AM
How many recent heist movies can you name?
by Christopher3
Sep 10th, 2004
01:28:55 AM
I think everyone knew this was going to suck so this is no surpr
by spectrebeeyatch
Sep 10th, 2004
01:29:55 AM
"A donkey disguised as a donkey."
by Uncapie
Sep 10th, 2004
01:32:36 AM
I hope they all die in the end.
by RainJacket
Sep 10th, 2004
01:36:48 AM
christopher3
by SimpsonsQuoteMan
Sep 10th, 2004
01:54:04 AM
To RainJacket: the movie for you is THE ANDERSON TAPES...
by FrankDrebin
Sep 10th, 2004
02:07:06 AM
The first one was doodie. The second will be runny doodie.
by Some Dude
Sep 10th, 2004
02:43:37 AM
Wow, I would rather be raped by the zombie corpse of John Holmes
by The_Lion
Sep 10th, 2004
02:47:44 AM
Right on, SimpsonsQuoteMan! Let's not forget the classic pre-90
by FrankDrebin
Sep 10th, 2004
03:01:43 AM
When is The Zeta NOT a major problem?
by SmarkJobber
Sep 10th, 2004
03:46:32 AM
The real hiest is Soderberg, Clooney, and all the other BIG STAR
by Grabthars_Hammer
Sep 10th, 2004
04:09:05 AM
....oops spelt heist wrong
by Grabthars_Hammer
Sep 10th, 2004
04:09:40 AM
Re: I hope they all die in the end. BEST COMMENT EVER
by Grabthars_Hammer
Sep 10th, 2004
04:11:26 AM
I thought Oceans 11 was an absolute Gem. So the fact that these
by GingerTwit
Sep 10th, 2004
09:55:37 AM
I can't believe they printed this fake review. Julia Roberts was
by matthooper8
Sep 10th, 2004
10:17:55 AM
Christ, I hope they reveal that Cheadle's godawful Cockney accen
by Gul Shah
Sep 10th, 2004
10:18:13 AM
11, 12, whatever
by zer0cool2k2
Sep 10th, 2004
10:47:19 AM
When Cast Members Have too much of a good time during the shooti
by Spacesheik
Sep 10th, 2004
12:01:27 PM
Show Julia Some Friggin Mercy!
by utz_world
Sep 10th, 2004
12:41:44 PM
SimpsonsQuoteMan, that's why he said R-E-C-E-N-T...unless you co
by IAmJacksUserID
Sep 10th, 2004
01:26:13 PM
Soderbourgh raped my adulthood!
by Lost Skeleton
Sep 10th, 2004
02:10:19 PM
Okay, "IAmJack'sUserId", if Jack Lemmon's theft in GLENGARRY GLE
by FrankDrebin
Sep 10th, 2004
02:51:31 PM
I'd still rather eat my own shit than see this movie
by Drunken Rage
Sep 10th, 2004
05:31:34 PM
Bruce as No 13
by hughesjo
Sep 10th, 2004
06:00:05 PM
CZJ as a super-sleuth? Sounds like her role in 'Entrapment' all
by Joe Cool #2
Sep 10th, 2004
07:07:06 PM
clooney DOMINATING?
by scrumdiddly
Sep 11th, 2004
02:08:48 AM
what this movie needs is a..
by nolan bautista
Sep 12th, 2004
04:20:26 AM
This summer twelve is the new eleven
by Bronzewood
Sep 12th, 2004
04:35:05 AM
mr.bobby peru
by nolan bautista
Sep 12th, 2004
04:50:08 AM
Cheadle's accent
by Bart of Darkness
Sep 12th, 2004
08:52:51 PM
What kind of bullshit review is that?
by AlwaysThere
Oct 26th, 2004
06:11:35 PM

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