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Fox's FEEBLE FOUR fixing to fumble'

Harry here, and I hate writing these pieces… I can’t tell you how much negative energy drags on me, but frankly… I feel I’ve been quiet on this issue for way too long.

20th Century Fox is about to completely clusterfuck the World’s Greatest Comic film… FANTASTIC FOUR.

This was the film they were supposed to build to. When you looked at the directors that they were getting on board their projects… People like Sam Raimi and Bryan Singer and Ang Lee and Guillermo Del Toro… Screenwriters like David Self, Michael Chabon and Michael France. It seemed like they were really serious about building towards greatness, the franchise that would truly knock the eyeballs out of our collective sockets, but it seems that right now, they’re set for disaster.

First off, there is the schedule. A less than one year turnaround from the start of filming till delivery. Two, plugging in a director with next to no experience with cinematically breathtaking material. And lastly – a script which is just plum stupid.

First there’s the whole Victor Van Damn thing. Now, if it was just a name, I’d be a tad peeved, but groan and take it, but throughout all the permutations of the FANTASTIC FOUR script… even the one by Michael France that everyone that has read it, has loved… they’ve fucked up Dr Doom. The single coolest thing about Dr. Doom is he was this mysterious ruler of a far away tiny kingdom somewhere in Eastern Europe. When he came to New York, he came to speak at the U.N. – to issue his demands, his threats… in person. This wasn’t some chickenshit send a video tape terrorist leader, Dr Doom marched right into the General Assembly and would demand the world surrender to him. His tiny country didn’t have out-dated technological sling-shots with which to threaten his neighboring countries… His little country was a technological T-REX set to annihilate all comers. And the world is not capable to handle it. Like Gort landing in D.C. and just disintegrating tanks and weapons with a glance, Doom similarly rendered enemies useless. He and his nation of unquestioning followers would stand unopposed in the world.

This villain didn’t have secret bases… Dr Doom was basically saying to the worl… This is my country, this is where I am… Come get some! His combination of sorcery and super-science elevated him above all others, and there was only one person on the planet whom he respected… Reed Richards, the leader of the Fantastic Four. In the history of cool villains, Dr. Doom was my favorite. He was eccentric, without being ridiculous… He had class and old country style and he was a cold blooded son of a bitch.

Instead… according to LATINO REVIEW they’ve decided to have Victor Van Damn become some half-assed Euro-trash version of Lex Luthor… WHO – Was never in Von Doom’s league before. Apparently – Van Damn owns the Baxter Building and Sue Storm works for him… Oh… and to add insult to injury… apparently she’s his girlfriend too. Oh, and Damn’s castle is in UpState New York… sigh… Wonder if that’s next to Xavier’s School for the Gifted?

Apparently in the script, they’ve made Johnny Storm the most interesting or appealing character which is just about the worst thing you could do to the Fantastic Four.

What you're supposed to have going on here is as follows... You have Reed and Ben Grimm as best friends, Reed is racked by guilt for transforming his best friend into a monster, and Ben never lets him forget it. Ben walks the Earth as a sideshow freak that could topple buildings and roll up Semi’s into compressed bowling balls. Johnny Storm wasn’t cool – he was a prick, a hot head show-off that reveled in his fame, taking full advantage of being a celebrity stud that could sleep with the women of his choice and loved rubbing it into Ben’s face. His sister was embarrassed about him, and lonely, cuz while she loved Reed Richards, Reed loved his work and was driven to find a way to cure Ben and to help humanity.

They were the world’s superheroes… a team of benevolent beings that brought technological wonders to the modern world, protected us from impossible perils and were glamorous in a way crowds adored. On the inside, they were a dysfunctional family fighting for stability and understanding between one another.

But hey… why do that when you can make Alicia Masters a “blind tough Goth Chick” that hangs out in an Irish Pub? Yeah, the sweet heart of gold Ben Grimm would just go gaga over some Goth Chick. That’s it, completely drain the innocence of her character… My god, by the time Ben let Alicia first touch his face… it should be a moment of intimacy that brings tears to the audiences eyes… as you see the personal shame of revealing to the one person in the world that is just hearing the beauty of Ben Grimm's tortured soul through his voice, see his curse and feel his tears as her light touch dances across his crags. This is great, by making her Goth… what, is Ben Grimm a fetish for her? Is he… ahem… EDGY?

See, it is bullshit like this, when you have people reinventing things that apparently they had no respect for that drives me crazy. This is a film that needs to be A-list from beginning to end. The property was genetically engineered for someone like Robert Zemeckis or Steven Spielberg. Having someone treat Dr Doom not as some half-assed Lex Luthor wannabe, but as the leader of a small country that was not only antagonistic of the so-called Super-Power nations, but dared to take them all on. To create him as a villain with more depth and character than Blofeld ever dreamt of… With the dreams of Alexander and Napolean and Hitler wrapped in an iron coffin hooded in green. Those twisted human eyes from out that cold metal he hated. Scarred by his inhuman experiments into the netherworlds of sorcery and science.

FANTASTIC FOUR isn’t something to crank out in a year, it isn’t a single script, but a story arc that should be planned from day one, and take a decade to realize. Anything short of Fantastic makes this film feeble. They have a chance to make a film that in character is superior to all-comers, in scope – it blows every other superhero out of the water. This is the big one, and right now… They’re fumbling this one badly. After Marvel’s stock soars with the success of SPIDER-MAN… sell, come 2005, I fear the worst is yet to come.

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FIRST
by Cassidy21
May 12th, 2004
06:49:04 AM
must resist saying Firs...there...i didn't do it!
by TenDeuChen
May 12th, 2004
06:49:23 AM
Right on, Harry!
by Desk
May 12th, 2004
07:07:38 AM
If I never see another comic book movie, I will die happy.
by Margot_Tenenbaum
May 12th, 2004
07:14:29 AM
Like the fantastic four would make a good film
by JoeMammaries
May 12th, 2004
07:15:31 AM
These character reinventions are ridiculous.
by Psyclops
May 12th, 2004
07:27:17 AM
True dat
by Darth Thoth
May 12th, 2004
07:28:39 AM
Why are they going with the Ultimates version
by DannyOcean01
May 12th, 2004
07:30:32 AM
MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS: HOW WILL THEY NOT FUCK IP THE SFX WHEN T
by JimmyRabbit
May 12th, 2004
07:34:37 AM
It will suck if its like how Harry wants
by Iamagoodguy
May 12th, 2004
07:47:13 AM
I'd rather see nothing than a bad FF movie.
by Dataset
May 12th, 2004
07:50:10 AM
I love it when
by Bcphil
May 12th, 2004
07:51:12 AM
Wish I could say I was surprised.
by Devil'sOwn
May 12th, 2004
07:51:36 AM
50 Cent to play Johnny Blaze
by Mentok
May 12th, 2004
09:06:17 AM
Betcha they cast Chad Michael Murray as Johnny Storm
by Drath
May 12th, 2004
09:08:39 AM
Shouldn't Darth Chainsaw be re-posting his rant about how people
by rev_skarekroe
May 12th, 2004
09:48:22 AM
i need to know more before writing this off, but...
by mansep
May 12th, 2004
10:03:57 AM
HEY ARAD - WHAT'S THE RUSH??? TAKE YOUR TIME AND GO WITH THE CL
by R-MAN
May 12th, 2004
10:08:14 AM
Ernest Borgnine
by Desk
May 12th, 2004
10:21:09 AM
blame
by AlgertMopper
May 12th, 2004
10:28:32 AM
wait a second....that would make him Dr. Damn!
by Mentok
May 12th, 2004
10:28:43 AM
Fantastic Four-ville
by Mentok
May 12th, 2004
10:32:17 AM
Makes the new Superman almost look good.
by DocPazuzu
May 12th, 2004
10:44:35 AM
Movie Geniuses
by UES
May 12th, 2004
10:49:47 AM
two words for Reed Richards....
by techgnome
May 12th, 2004
10:49:55 AM
UES.... lol, it's funny cos it's true
by mansep
May 12th, 2004
11:25:59 AM
Hack Writers Remodel to Fit Fartbag Egos
by flossygomez
May 12th, 2004
11:33:35 AM
Bravo Harry!!!
by jimmychitwood
May 12th, 2004
11:34:00 AM
UES is Right!
by flossygomez
May 12th, 2004
11:38:09 AM
Just a thought
by flossygomez
May 12th, 2004
11:42:15 AM
I'd rather see...
by Saunderizer
May 12th, 2004
11:43:39 AM
Fantastic F!@#k up.
by simongarth2001
May 12th, 2004
11:46:45 AM
Gee, where have I heard all this before?
by Logo Lou
May 12th, 2004
12:11:17 PM
there hasn't been a truly pleasing live-action superhero movie s
by beamish13
May 12th, 2004
12:13:15 PM
ever notice how the only good comic book adaptaions come from in
by beamish13
May 12th, 2004
12:15:17 PM
Harry
by Hockenberry
May 12th, 2004
12:32:05 PM
...But..but it's ok to like Batman again right?
by Macauley_Sulkin
May 12th, 2004
01:12:10 PM
I, Harry
by Ninja Nerd
May 12th, 2004
01:16:03 PM
What the HELL is wrong with these people? Does anyone in these
by Darksider
May 12th, 2004
01:17:36 PM
I Agree
by andenu
May 12th, 2004
01:18:18 PM
The Art of Not Getting It
by lettersoftransit
May 12th, 2004
01:22:29 PM
HASS you are quite possibly the biggest asshole...
by Pontsing Barset
May 12th, 2004
01:32:00 PM
never really agree with harry but hes right
by ZO
May 12th, 2004
01:40:39 PM
This one time in Comic Camp...
by UES
May 12th, 2004
01:41:16 PM
Harry - I Don't Normally Trust Your Rants...However...
by Wet Soul
May 12th, 2004
01:55:35 PM
Um, well...
by Johnny Smith
May 12th, 2004
02:02:45 PM
If they can't get Doom right, why continue ?
by RobinP
May 12th, 2004
02:04:22 PM
I'm with Harry, as usual
by 007-11
May 12th, 2004
02:09:54 PM
If all Harry says is true...
by odysseus
May 12th, 2004
02:16:43 PM
Harry, I must respectfully disagree with you on this. I think U
by Gere's AssGerbil
May 12th, 2004
02:22:23 PM
My Dream Cast...
by Vnhaln1
May 12th, 2004
02:38:58 PM
I forgot...
by Vnhaln1
May 12th, 2004
02:41:52 PM
UES you need to go read FF again and not the Bendis bullshit.
by Darksider
May 12th, 2004
02:41:52 PM
Ultimates Vs. Regular...
by GEORGEFNLUCAS
May 12th, 2004
02:42:38 PM
As usual: Gere's AssGerbil (HILarious handle BTW...
by Alatar_Blue
May 12th, 2004
02:54:04 PM
This movie is gonna suck if they go with the Ultimate version..
by catman
May 12th, 2004
03:03:33 PM
This "must appeal to youth culture" (and ONLY youth culture) bul
by Big Dumb Ape
May 12th, 2004
03:04:17 PM
Speaking of this bullshit "youth culture" approach to things, ha
by Big Dumb Ape
May 12th, 2004
03:14:37 PM
Sorry Harry
by MrEkoLetMeLive
May 12th, 2004
03:18:31 PM
You did it Harry ... you wrote a great piece.
by Silver_Joo
May 12th, 2004
03:28:15 PM
I'm finally to the point where I can ignore stuff like this.
by Fantomex
May 12th, 2004
03:29:59 PM
Harry your opinion is like air...
by BustRocks
May 12th, 2004
03:31:38 PM
Ultimates argument
by croutons
May 12th, 2004
03:34:04 PM
Simon Baker as Reed Richards
by riskebiz
May 12th, 2004
03:36:35 PM
Cliff Curtis is going to be Dr. Doom.
by riskebiz
May 12th, 2004
03:41:31 PM
Harry's right. This movie will BLOW. And keep in mind the reaso
by Commando Cody
May 12th, 2004
03:51:25 PM
Don't just blame Fox
by Manaqua
May 12th, 2004
03:52:10 PM
Comic books are not exactly the most intricate pieces of literat
by ScreamingPenis
May 12th, 2004
03:59:22 PM
Thing voice
by Orange Crush
May 12th, 2004
04:03:40 PM
Oh yeah screamingdick? What would you call the Indiana Jones fil
by Pontsing Barset
May 12th, 2004
04:09:44 PM
Idiots
by G-Man1968
May 12th, 2004
04:13:15 PM
damme doom dum
by twitaman
May 12th, 2004
04:20:52 PM
Heroes Reborn
by Kinemaniac
May 12th, 2004
04:24:34 PM
Outstanding rant. Right on!
by SG7
May 12th, 2004
04:31:07 PM
Tim Story will cast this to perfection!
by Lupin_III
May 12th, 2004
04:31:11 PM
UES, Ancient Lights...
by The Killer-Goat
May 12th, 2004
04:57:17 PM
I don't understand Harry.
by FelatioHornblowr
May 12th, 2004
04:58:42 PM
nerds
by oger
May 12th, 2004
04:59:34 PM
HARRY IS RIGHT !!!
by Rcamacho2278
May 12th, 2004
05:02:09 PM
Just read UFF#7
by BAMF
May 12th, 2004
05:16:53 PM
Ha ha good one oger {;o)
by Pontsing Barset
May 12th, 2004
05:17:14 PM
Doom doesn't do anything in person Harry...
by Mooly
May 12th, 2004
05:28:31 PM
Just fire Avi Arad
by simongarth2001
May 12th, 2004
05:36:40 PM
who the fuck cares
by stamos
May 12th, 2004
05:47:33 PM
Stamos, you bitch
by Kool_Aid_Man
May 12th, 2004
05:50:54 PM
kool aid man, he was fat, right?
by stamos
May 12th, 2004
05:55:08 PM
Re: 'Starship Troopers'
by beamish13
May 12th, 2004
05:58:34 PM
Robert Zemeckis
by beamish13
May 12th, 2004
06:00:04 PM
Fuck you, stamos
by Lou_Diamond_Phil
May 12th, 2004
06:00:05 PM
lou diamond small penis
by stamos
May 12th, 2004
06:07:48 PM
Stamos, you about to get served!
by Lou_Diamond_Phil
May 12th, 2004
06:17:15 PM
Lou Diamond, do you sweat bacon?
by stamos
May 12th, 2004
06:32:00 PM
Once again, fuck you stamos.
by Lou_Diamond_Phil
May 12th, 2004
06:43:46 PM
Suck my fatty, hairy taint, stamos.
by Lou_Diamond_Phil
May 12th, 2004
06:45:51 PM
Suck my fatty, hairy taint, stamos.
by Lou_Diamond_Phil
May 12th, 2004
06:46:49 PM
Harry thinks FF is the film that everything was leading up to?!!
by spooksmcgee
May 12th, 2004
06:55:28 PM
uh-oh
by yer mama
May 12th, 2004
07:02:54 PM
First of all, I am no relation to Victor Van Damme....secondly,
by Cletus Van Damme
May 12th, 2004
07:04:21 PM
Ancient Lights
by The Killer-Goat
May 12th, 2004
07:43:19 PM
huh??
by dengreg31
May 12th, 2004
07:46:26 PM
Victor Von Fuck!
by Napoleon Park
May 12th, 2004
07:53:52 PM
The worst thing about this and Superman
by Pjdonnelli
May 12th, 2004
08:07:38 PM
Different ideas of dream cast
by VidVicious
May 12th, 2004
08:14:31 PM
my god, harry, you are right for once!
by horseloverfat723
May 12th, 2004
08:16:31 PM
to all the folks out there who think "Starship Troopers" sucks..
by Carson Dyle
May 12th, 2004
08:22:53 PM
Fantastic Who?
by mbaker
May 12th, 2004
08:25:08 PM
I really wouldn't care if they made an adaptation of Ultimate FF
by pip1345
May 12th, 2004
09:09:13 PM
C'mon, folks, we're talking about the Fantastic Four here...
by Tracheotomy Man
May 12th, 2004
09:39:39 PM
Fire Avi Arad? Huh?
by BustRocks
May 12th, 2004
09:51:28 PM
FITTY CENT FOR REED RICHARDS
by Noriko Takaya
May 12th, 2004
10:03:15 PM
I'm shocked
by HailDaHypnoToad
May 12th, 2004
10:13:39 PM
Aw fuck, this just depresses me...
by Johnny Ahab
May 12th, 2004
10:38:33 PM
didn't Harry say that Van Helsing's scripts was shit as well tho
by Kid Joker
May 12th, 2004
11:14:29 PM
I Would Boycott This Version
by Barron34
May 12th, 2004
11:16:14 PM
Another thing they are gonna miss out on by using the ages they'
by andenu
May 12th, 2004
11:23:35 PM
Hey, Harry - why don't you call up Avi Arad and tell him how you
by Mosquito March
May 12th, 2004
11:25:25 PM
And there's a chance that Catwoman will turn out fine...that dir
by el zar
May 12th, 2004
11:27:26 PM
It's Clobbering Time!
by 44mag
May 12th, 2004
11:30:40 PM
PS - To everybody saying "right on, Harry" - HE HASN'T READ THE
by Mosquito March
May 12th, 2004
11:32:16 PM
STARSHIP TROOPERS SUCKS!!!
by IAmMovieMaster
May 13th, 2004
12:22:28 AM
I don't know...
by The Real McCoy
May 13th, 2004
12:27:25 AM
troy?
by Danger Mouse
May 13th, 2004
01:38:02 AM
Harry is right, go with the classic take, it's money in the bank
by The Hillbrothers
May 13th, 2004
02:07:17 AM
Since Harry's in such a good mood over the FF, I just thought I'
by Gere's AssGerbil
May 13th, 2004
03:11:11 AM
I'm going to be adamant on this point: If Ben Affleck is not inv
by Happy Harry
May 13th, 2004
04:11:13 AM
Great post Harry...almost made me cry
by Eyegore
May 13th, 2004
04:16:36 AM
Doom can't be scary and a good villian because he owns a damn bi
by The Founder
May 13th, 2004
04:32:23 AM
Too complex for the average corporate asshole!
by Shano
May 13th, 2004
04:59:21 AM
FF freaks fucked over by fawlty fruition of fabled foursome!
by Zardoz
May 13th, 2004
05:45:52 AM
From the Director of BARBERSHOP comes THE FANTASTIC FOUR!
by Spacesheik
May 13th, 2004
06:19:41 AM
The irony of comic book movies
by mbaker
May 13th, 2004
06:34:17 AM
Movie Master re 'Starship Troopers'
by Wild At Heart
May 13th, 2004
08:28:30 AM
Modern Hollywood Disrespect
by Tristram
May 13th, 2004
09:15:12 AM
The only way the Marvel Superheroes can stop Harry's evil is wit
by Grabthars_Hammer
May 13th, 2004
05:53:28 PM
Doctor Doom says: "Forget the death of Richards, Doom likes Host
by Grabthars_Hammer
May 13th, 2004
06:21:36 PM
Red Skull says: "I HATE America. But I LOVE Fruit Pies!"
by Grabthars_Hammer
May 13th, 2004
06:26:25 PM
Roadblock from G.I. Joe says: "Yodels are a rip-off, and that's
by Grabthars_Hammer
May 13th, 2004
07:02:20 PM
this is the movie that should have been:
by Debaser2k4
May 13th, 2004
09:10:11 PM
Thoughts on my Favorite Comic Book
by steadikam
May 13th, 2004
09:35:51 PM
Sad news and sad reactions
by DrShock
May 13th, 2004
11:14:45 PM
Correction to above
by DrShock
May 13th, 2004
11:20:54 PM
Constantine teaser up!!!!
by The Real McCoy
May 13th, 2004
11:22:41 PM
Damn Conservatives, if left unchecked their would be no diversit
by The Founder
May 14th, 2004
01:16:13 AM
Naomi Watts as Sue Storm or Charlize Theron ? Yeah right, these
by The Founder
May 14th, 2004
01:26:08 AM
Harry, that was probably your best rant ever, good job...
by Anlashok
May 14th, 2004
01:37:53 AM
this is great killing one marvel hero at a time
by non-existent-man
May 14th, 2004
02:30:53 AM
Earth to Founder: Charlize Theron is only 29
by Commando Cody
May 14th, 2004
03:07:17 AM
Forget Chiklis - Adam Baldwin 4 Grimm!
by Desk
May 14th, 2004
08:58:29 AM
no integrity
by donjuan
May 14th, 2004
09:01:12 AM
Comic book films
by Mafu
May 14th, 2004
11:50:41 AM
In defense of inexperienced directors or comic book movies named
by Barry Egan
May 14th, 2004
12:11:18 PM
Thanks Harry
by Apple Pie
May 14th, 2004
12:13:17 PM
uh, Von Doom is euro trash
by Morborama
May 14th, 2004
12:23:39 PM
The reason changing the FF is wrong..
by Rupee88
May 14th, 2004
12:45:08 PM
to the jackass who wants paul walker as johnny storm...
by zombiejesus666
May 14th, 2004
12:54:38 PM
old stuf iz stupid, evrythign shud b changd 2 make it kewl
by TheWoodMan
May 14th, 2004
01:11:24 PM
Hass and rev_skarekroe are ASSHOLES
by 3MTA3
May 14th, 2004
02:11:46 PM
Kewl Speek Vs. Realistic Expectations...
by GEORGEFNLUCAS
May 14th, 2004
03:18:48 PM
why dont they...
by robosushi
May 14th, 2004
04:05:14 PM
If you've read the ULTIMATE FF series, then you know it's VAN DA
by SpyGuy
May 14th, 2004
04:24:51 PM
right on harry
by drjones
May 14th, 2004
04:45:03 PM
Please Dear God dont Let it SUCK!!!
by kymedicineman
May 14th, 2004
05:01:51 PM
Who wouldn
by Serious Black
May 14th, 2004
05:18:02 PM
Dumb Fucks
by G-Man1968
May 14th, 2004
05:38:01 PM
wow thats craptastic
by non-existent-man
May 14th, 2004
06:38:36 PM
DrShock
by Mosquito March
May 14th, 2004
07:09:39 PM
Ultimate Fantastic Four Cast here
by FelatioHornblowr
May 15th, 2004
01:22:23 AM
PERSPECTIVE
by TROMA
May 15th, 2004
02:21:45 AM
Harry's RIGHT!!!
by california_mtz
May 15th, 2004
03:39:38 AM
It will be funny when they cannot figure out why it did not make
by mrfan
May 15th, 2004
05:28:43 AM
I love the justifications for creative bankruptcy.
by Darksider
May 15th, 2004
08:57:55 AM
Here's the FF movie I would like to see...
by Giant Fish
May 15th, 2004
09:11:00 AM
Let's sign a petition
by Loup LeBeau
May 15th, 2004
12:00:24 PM
I'm sure it may sound old, but...
by Devil'sOwn
May 15th, 2004
01:45:19 PM
fantastic f- - k ups is more like it
by MARSJAM75
May 15th, 2004
07:23:17 PM

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