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The future of 2D Animation' Apparently not Disney or Dreamworks... then where'
Hey folks, Harry here... I've had a lot of folks asking me to comment on this whole Roy Disney & Stanley Gold exodus from Eisner's Mouse of Ill Repute, and frankly... it's sad. I look in Roy's face and I see the entire history of DISNEY behind his eyes. I look into Eisner's face and I see the face of a man that seems to not represent those same ideals. DISNEY wasn't meant to be an evil corporation. It has just been drawn that way by current management.
One can only imagine the disgust that Roy must feel as he has seen Disney's animation division laid waste by micro-management, gestapo-esque security measures, test marketing of every minutae and the cut backs that force the very heart and soul of what made DISNEY such a great company... those folks that draw love & soul at 24 frames per second. The Ink & Paint departments. And what's the next Animated Classic to carry Disney's name? TEACHER'S PET! Joy.
Personally, right now I'm hoping that PIXAR just walks away... the same way that Roy and Stanley just walked away. Sometimes if you love something, you have to let it crash and burn on it's own accord, but then return to it when it's ready to be reborn, not based on spreadsheets, but based on ideas, soul and innovation. The very things that made the Disney Animation and the Disney Company so wonderful, for so many years.
Ok, sorry about the soap box... I know, you're curious about the headline... The Future of 2D Animated Film? Well, the odd thing is... the future for this seemingly "dying" form is nestled firmly in the alleged stake that has been so publicly thrust through its chest... PIXAR.
The word is that PIXAR is starting their own 2D Animation Division. A company that will use the PIXAR brand... that name which stands for supreme excellence, innovation and soul in animation today... and putting it behind the form that everyone there loves. 2D Animation.
The first film? Well, Brad Bird, who is wrapping up work on THE INCREDIBLES for Pixar is apparently going to be the goto guy on this to kick it all off. RAY GUNN!!! What is RAY GUNN? Here's what Moriarty gleamed from Brad Bird - 5 Years Ago!
MORIARTY
What can you tell me about RAY GUNN, and is there any chance we'll ever see it?
BRAD
Well, uh, I hope so. I think it could be a really great film. Essentially, for a long time I've believed that there is an audience for animation that Hollywood has been very slow in recognizing is there. The success of SIMPSONS and KING OF THE HILL say that there is an older audience for animation, but Hollywood tends to be very myopic, and it's change is slow. You can make the arguments for more distinctive, more adult animated projects on TV now, but you've still got all these preconceived notions to overcome trying to get it to features. IRON GIANT basically represents a halfway step for me between what Hollywood can understand about feature length character animation and where I think animation can go. It has enough of the stuff that Hollywood traditionally recognizes as being in a children's film, but hopefully we've been able to kind of squeeze some adult stuff in there in a way that doesn't put kids off. There was so much misinformation about RAY GUNN...
MORIARTY
It was one of those projects that I kept hearing the name of over the years, so it's sort of taken on a life of its own if you know the animation community.
BRAD
Well, it's two things that are hard to sell in Hollywood. Part of it is sort of film noir, even though to me it's only that in the surface details. Really, it's more of an action movie, and it had a substantial amount of comedy in it. I see it as being very mainstream, but Hollywood saw it as being almost experimental, like, "Whoa, what the heck is this?" In animation, you're always fighting against, "Well, that might upset a 5-year-old." My feeling is, "Well, then, the 5-year-old shouldn't go. Come on, can't we make some other things?" RAY GUNN was not it was PG, you know? Maybe PG-13.
This has been one of Brad's Passion Projects for quite some time and now... At the company that is most held responsible for the pronounced "DEATH OF TRADITIONAL ANIMATION" it is looking like it is getting a new lease on life... Odd, given 5 years ago, Steve Jobs apparently told Brad that 2D animation was "basically going the way of the Buggy Whip." Well, things change... PIXAR to me has always been about story, ideas and soul. If RAY GUNN has that, it's gold whether it is rendered, drawn or acted out with sock puppets. DISNEY may not have the spirit, heart or vision to see that, but thankfully everything that was once best about Disney pulses a healthy beat in the chests of everyone at PIXAR! Thanks goes out to "Kirby" for the heads up!
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Reader Talkback
First by lonecow | Dec 1st, 2003 05:45:38 PM | Dare I say it? by BillEmic | Dec 1st, 2003 05:46:38 PM | Oh God... by BillEmic | Dec 1st, 2003 05:46:52 PM | I spoke too soon by BillEmic | Dec 1st, 2003 05:47:28 PM | What's so wrong about Teachers
Pet? by Elwood Blues | Dec 1st, 2003 05:48:58 PM | 2D was great up until they
tried to make toons cool. by spidermanfreak20 | Dec 1st, 2003 05:58:29 PM | Wouldn't it be terrific if
Pixar got big enough to buy
Disney? by FrankCobretti | Dec 1st, 2003 05:59:24 PM | NB, re; kids 'n Elvis by FrankCobretti | Dec 1st, 2003 06:02:25 PM | Disney's TEACHER'S PET looks
like some really trippy
shit!!! by godoffireinhell | Dec 1st, 2003 06:05:53 PM | You misunderstood. by spidermanfreak20 | Dec 1st, 2003 06:07:33 PM | This is GREAT news by Darquon | Dec 1st, 2003 06:11:48 PM | One more thing... by Darquon | Dec 1st, 2003 06:12:51 PM | The future of 2-D animation is
in the lower right hand corner
of by rev_skarekroe | Dec 1st, 2003 06:13:26 PM | the future is now by gorillaskull | Dec 1st, 2003 06:34:05 PM | The Future Begins Tomorrow! by ouagadougou | Dec 1st, 2003 06:53:32 PM | Soul as a verb? by Silver Shamrock | Dec 1st, 2003 06:58:58 PM | CURIOUS GEORGE by WaitAMinute | Dec 1st, 2003 07:00:35 PM | AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME!!!!! by Smeg For Brains | Dec 1st, 2003 07:14:18 PM | Disney plays catch-up by Dr Lizardo | Dec 1st, 2003 07:14:19 PM | The future of 2-D animation is
in Japan. by funnylookingdog | Dec 1st, 2003 07:14:27 PM | Disney in Bed with Pee Wee and
his Kitch Collection by Macstone | Dec 1st, 2003 07:16:18 PM | I'm with ya on this Harry... by eternal76 | Dec 1st, 2003 07:16:34 PM | Oh, and ouagadougou? by Dr Lizardo | Dec 1st, 2003 07:17:54 PM | Oh damn, I meant "obscure" by Dr Lizardo | Dec 1st, 2003 07:19:03 PM | 2-D isn't dead by FloydGandoli | Dec 1st, 2003 07:21:28 PM | The future of 2-D animation
is: Aqua Teen Hunger Force! by Lord Finesse | Dec 1st, 2003 07:31:46 PM | Jan or Feb? by Moa Kaka | Dec 1st, 2003 07:37:18 PM | Jan or Feb - referring to
"Teacher's Pet" by Moa Kaka | Dec 1st, 2003 07:39:12 PM | Re: AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME!!! by ChaseSequence | Dec 1st, 2003 07:43:19 PM | I think I can speak for
eveyone here, if the future of
2D animat by 007-11 | Dec 1st, 2003 07:45:36 PM | you guys give head to every
pixar movie ever made and then
you c by MiltonWaddams | Dec 1st, 2003 07:46:27 PM | Re: AWESOME AWESOME
AWESOME!!!!! by ChaseSequence | Dec 1st, 2003 07:48:08 PM | congrats Harry! by DawnOfTheDead | Dec 1st, 2003 07:52:15 PM | MACSTONE. by DawnOfTheDead | Dec 1st, 2003 07:58:01 PM | Disney 2-D isn't dead... it'll
just go into hibernation for 5
to by PattyOGreen | Dec 1st, 2003 08:26:27 PM | The Future of 2D . . . by ChicagoRonin | Dec 1st, 2003 08:26:31 PM | Get the story straight, but
not too straight. by Lobanhaki | Dec 1st, 2003 08:30:06 PM | Hmmm by gil-galad12 | Dec 1st, 2003 08:34:33 PM | It doesn't surprise me, Eisner
has always hated animation by TimBenzedrine | Dec 1st, 2003 09:12:19 PM | spidermanfreak20, you
misunderstood by FrankCobretti | Dec 1st, 2003 09:22:03 PM | gil-galad by XTheCrovvX | Dec 1st, 2003 09:34:34 PM | Pixar needs these guys help... by MemBirdman | Dec 1st, 2003 09:34:59 PM | Straight to video releases. by slugerama | Dec 1st, 2003 09:36:53 PM | Right on PattyOGreen by Asimov's Brain | Dec 1st, 2003 10:03:22 PM | Hi Guys! by chrth | Dec 1st, 2003 10:03:50 PM | It's just a pity by Goneburger | Dec 1st, 2003 10:04:54 PM | The following is the text of
Roy Disney's letter of
resignation: by spidermanfreak20 | Dec 1st, 2003 10:20:15 PM | All together: I believe in 2D
animation by pvecu | Dec 1st, 2003 10:23:16 PM | ouagadougou- by RenoNevada2000 | Dec 1st, 2003 10:51:27 PM | Ray Gunn! Hahahahahaha! by Jarek | Dec 1st, 2003 11:05:41 PM | Anime isn't actually
animated... by Holly_Wight | Dec 1st, 2003 11:11:49 PM | Pixar sucks by Rupee88 | Dec 1st, 2003 11:27:13 PM | Disney by Rupee88 | Dec 1st, 2003 11:29:06 PM | more from me... by gil-galad12 | Dec 1st, 2003 11:52:41 PM | The conclusions are both too
specific, and too broad. by Lobanhaki | Dec 2nd, 2003 12:08:25 AM | 2D is undergoing a shift by Wild At Heart | Dec 2nd, 2003 01:03:37 AM | 2D animation and the spirit of
Walt lives, my friends, and
his n by JohnnyBlueJeans | Dec 2nd, 2003 01:06:06 AM | The future of animation is in
a childs eyes by eclipsedman | Dec 2nd, 2003 01:29:06 AM | "Well, then, the 5-year-old
shouldn't go. Come on, can't
we make by The Killer-Goat | Dec 2nd, 2003 02:59:12 AM | holy cow... "cartoon boobies
and blood." by The Killer-Goat | Dec 2nd, 2003 03:10:16 AM | In fact, I wholeheartedly cite
"south park" as an example... by The Killer-Goat | Dec 2nd, 2003 03:17:58 AM | Lost the plot by BRIANBOLLOX | Dec 2nd, 2003 06:18:44 AM | EISNER!!! by MonkeyBytes | Dec 2nd, 2003 07:05:11 AM | Animation aint what it used to
be... but film styles like
Emporo by TheGinger Twit | Dec 2nd, 2003 07:21:10 AM | by thegodfather | Dec 2nd, 2003 07:36:44 AM | Innocence: Ghost in the Shell by Ulm | Dec 2nd, 2003 08:56:58 AM | DawnOfTheDead by Macstone | Dec 2nd, 2003 09:07:48 AM | MEN IN SUITS DONT KNOW CRAP
COMPARED TO ARTISTS by THE FAN | Dec 2nd, 2003 09:13:46 AM | GREAT ANIMATION ART by THE FAN | Dec 2nd, 2003 09:20:58 AM | so it starts when? by TheKingInYellow | Dec 2nd, 2003 09:29:04 AM | Lets hope it's the 2D with
badly integrated CG elements
that's d by Drath | Dec 2nd, 2003 09:31:02 AM | What you miss for not waking
up at 8 a.m. on Saturdays by GilmoresRock | Dec 2nd, 2003 09:55:57 AM | didn't CBS just walk away from
this Ray Gunns movie? by Hud | Dec 2nd, 2003 10:45:19 AM | Pixar + 2D = Great News! by Damitol | Dec 2nd, 2003 11:06:57 AM | Hud, I may be mistaken here,
but... by The Killer-Goat | Dec 2nd, 2003 11:36:45 AM | How symbolic... by Cap'n Chaos! | Dec 2nd, 2003 11:43:57 AM | damitol, re: asian co-venture by The Killer-Goat | Dec 2nd, 2003 12:01:12 PM | Hud, if there was no animation
depepartment ,there would be
no D by TimBenzedrine | Dec 2nd, 2003 12:31:00 PM | ELFQUEST where is this film
already?!?! Bluth? Bird?
Madhouse? D by StoneMonkey | Dec 2nd, 2003 12:44:46 PM | the sacred art of 2D by buffys | Dec 2nd, 2003 12:50:03 PM | You're not so crazy Lord
Finesse! There's more Energy
and just p by Klam Bake | Dec 2nd, 2003 12:54:47 PM | Teachers Pet by DukeDeMondo | Dec 2nd, 2003 01:39:19 PM | Silly to talk about the death
of 2d animation by Gheorghe Zamfir | Dec 2nd, 2003 02:16:24 PM | Tell me I'm not the only one
who thinks that "Teacher's
Pet" loo by Puddin' Taine | Dec 2nd, 2003 04:32:01 PM | Silver Age Marvel Comic style
music video by TedSallis | Dec 2nd, 2003 05:37:18 PM | 2D Animation dead? Uh, where's
the obituary? by Zone Zero | Dec 2nd, 2003 07:29:23 PM | Of course 2D animation is
going to thrive in Japan. It
always h by Smeg For Brains | Dec 2nd, 2003 07:53:15 PM | Michael Eisner is an EVIL
CAPITALIST PIG by FD Resurrected | Dec 2nd, 2003 08:03:05 PM | Smeg for Brains, I must give
you props. by Zone Zero | Dec 2nd, 2003 10:34:31 PM | "it takes much less artistry"? by buffys | Dec 2nd, 2003 10:57:46 PM | buffys by Zone Zero | Dec 3rd, 2003 02:03:06 AM | 2D animation isn't dead by CarThatAteParis | Dec 3rd, 2003 08:46:32 AM | Traditional Disney-style
animation lives on...... by The Gipper | Dec 3rd, 2003 01:20:01 PM | The Legend of El Cid by Drath | Dec 3rd, 2003 02:27:59 PM | Understand this MacStone by Sheik Yerbouti | Dec 3rd, 2003 03:19:17 PM | on Paul Reubens on kiddie
porn... by Evil McSatan | Dec 3rd, 2003 03:54:09 PM | I probably catch hell for
this, but Dreamworks' Sinbad
has some by Gere's AssGerbil | Dec 3rd, 2003 11:31:05 PM | No disrespect to computer
animation... by Smeg For Brains | Dec 4th, 2003 12:34:14 AM | No disrespect to computer
animation... by Smeg For Brains | Dec 4th, 2003 12:34:25 AM | Kim Possible by JungleJoe | Dec 4th, 2003 12:58:13 AM | Jungle Joe by Drath | Dec 4th, 2003 08:43:59 AM | Thank you Drath, by TimBenzedrine | Dec 4th, 2003 11:49:34 AM | Pee Wee Part 4 by Macstone | Dec 4th, 2003 01:50:11 PM | sheesh by tango fett | Dec 5th, 2003 11:08:51 AM | Why it will fail? Pixar`s
weaknesses will be revealed to
the Wor by chien_sale | Dec 5th, 2003 08:14:52 PM | To come in a little late,
perhaps... by Absie | Dec 5th, 2003 10:28:27 PM | Mauschwitz by tav | Dec 6th, 2003 07:19:02 AM | stuff by Tomiyama | Dec 6th, 2003 06:27:12 PM | Well, Eisner saved Disney by chien_sale | Dec 6th, 2003 06:49:14 PM | If you'll notice... by Absie | Dec 6th, 2003 07:48:20 PM | Getting old by Tomiyama | Dec 6th, 2003 07:54:50 PM | Good points Absi and Tomi by chien_sale | Dec 7th, 2003 11:57:10 PM | late on the subject, but... by Roxie | Dec 9th, 2003 01:02:46 AM |
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